Nov
28
Olney: Cliff Lee talks are a good fit to pick up this week
ByVia Buster Olney, negotiations between free agent southpaw Cliff Lee and the various clubs try to sign him are expected to pick up this coming week, and there’s a decent chance he’ll pick his new home during the Winter Meetings in two weeks. “We’ve got a fair number of teams trying to work through the process,” said agent Darek Braunecker. “It’s probably fair to say we’ve got a half-dozen teams in the mix.” We’ve heard that the Yankees are prepared to offer him five years and $120M, though rumors of a Sabathian deal have been floating around. Get ready, the hot stove is ready to take off.
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Cliff Lee will be Pavano 2.0
^^^^
crazy talk
So Jeter = Tony Womack and Cliff Lee = Carl Pavano. Got it!
It’s really bad when a Lee=Pavano isn’t the more ridiculous of 2 comparisons.
Mr Moss do you feel the Yankees should pursue a FA starter other than Cliff Lee? Should they attempt to resign Mariano?
Of coure they will resign Mo.he still at the top of his game,and worth every $ dollar
Jeter on the other hand is toast,finished ,washed up. im sick of his 1st pitch swinging,slow groundouts to 2nd,Ground into double plays,shocking range at SS
Yankees have offered him avery acceptable well above market value offer at 3/45.The more this drags out the more jeter shows his true colours,and his its all about me attidude
things nsalem asked about: FA starters other than Lee, Mariano
things nsalem did not ask about: Derek Jeter
am i talking to you, no im not….go watch you richard simmons dvd
Damn cheerleading, pony tailed, richard simmons watchers
You forgot numb nuts.
“go watch you richard simmons dvd” has serious RAB meme potential.
It has serious real world meme potential as well. That’s going to be my new stock reply to anyone who is irritating me.
Irrelevant and incoherent: a winning combination!
Approved.
Seconded. What does it even mean?
Sounds like it has a gay connotation? Not exactly sure though…
I’m going to buy Mr. Moss an Eduardo Nunez jersey so you can burn it in October when you realize he’s got the potential to be the worst shortstop in baseball.
can you afford it on welfare
In today’s economy, can you afford not to?
Mr. Moss
Though I understand your frustration with Derek Jeter in 2010, I believe his performance this past year is still vastly superior to the numbers that Tony Womack put up over his career. To get back on the topic of Cliff Lee,
what in his background makes you think that he would perform as poorly as Carl Pavano did in his career as a New York Yankee. I am assuming that you were referring to Carl’s career as a Yankee when stating that Lee would be Pavano 2.0
Wow, it looks like Randy is still pissed about being traded by New England to Minnesota then promptly dumped 3 days later.
6 years for 150MM sounds about right for
derek jetercliff leeThe hot stove is pretty good this year. I really don’t want Lee for over 5 years. I’ll hope for a 5/115mm deal.
As long as he stays healthy he could be a productive pitcher for the next five or six years.
Sure, but what are the odds of him being paid 23mm+ in the sixth year as a FA? I’ll bet againt it.
True, but the sixth year may be the difference between the Yankees and Rangers, and by then a 1 WAR=6 million so he even if he is only worth 2.5 WAR that is still 15 million of value which is really good.
I never said anything about letting him go elsewhere. I am just hoping for 5/115mm for the logical reasons I stated. Your point about him being worth 15mm in his 6th year only supports my logic.
Doesn’t matter what his market value is 6 years from now though. If the market is for 6 years, well then you give him 6 years.
Never said anything about not signing him. What about my OP mentioned anything about that.
I didn’t say you didn’t want him. I don’t think anyone wants to give him 6 years, but 5/115 looks more like an opening bid than final numbers.
That’s why I used the word hope.
Let’s just give him a lifetime contract then.
Finally, it feels like absolutely nothing has happened around baseball since the Uggla trade.
Javy Vazquez signed with the Marlins, how is that not big news?
Don’t forget Boston’s Andrew Miller trade!
Other than that and V-Mart, this has been a really boring offseason so far.
Finally!!
cliff lee will go to the yankees because his friend sabathia is there and he is a great pitcher so he is getting paid what he is doing
Yeah cause CC is his only friend in baseball….so he has to sign with the Yankees
I think the market for Lee (in terms of years) is his highest non Yankee offer plus the one extra year the Yankees will offer to top it(up to 7).
With AJ falling off the cliff as a number 2 starter in 2010 Lee has
become more of necessity rather than the luxury (for the Yankees)he would have been
if AJ had performed as we hoped he would have. I think the Yankees believe no one will go over 5 years at the 23 million plus Lee will want and they would easily go six. If someone (which I believe will happen) goes 6 the Yankees will go to 7. If Lee is offered a 7th year by a non Yankee entity, the Yankees (or anybody else)
will not increase the years to 8 and at that point Lee gets to pitch where he prefers. Hopefully that is with the Yankees.
7 years? Ugh.
I hate the idea of 7 years also, but I think to have the top offer in years that’s what we will have to do. If we do not sign Lee and Andy retires (or can no longer pitch effectively) Sabathia
will really have the leverage with his opt-out after the 11 season. The game has changer over the last couple of years and
pitching (as it should be) is the king. Most of the great young arms in baseball have contracts for the foreseeable future. Missing out on Lee may have horrible ramifications for the years 2012-2015.
I can’t see any non-Yankee team go 7 years. The only wilcard might be the Nats, but I don’t think Rizzo would do that.
7 years for Cliff Lee? aint happening…5 max,and he will likely spend alot of time on the DL
Also, everyone you’ve ever loved will perish!
Great rocks will fall from the sky!
Cats and dogs, living together…mass hysteria!
2004!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What has happened in Lee’s past that has you thinking he will spend so much time on the DL
Mr. Moss is my new favorite poster. Is he still here?
Mr. Moss vs Big Bertha would be EPIC.
Mr. Moss is still pissed that Tennesee picked him up on waivers.
Sucka still has juice but no QB.
Let’s not all pick on Mr Moss. Opinions can be disagreed with without the mob mentality piling on thing…
Give Lee one more year than anyone else will. Who knows/cares what $23-25M will mean in a 2nd Palin administration?
/Scary thought
Thank You Quiero Montero! You just made my day. Cliff Lee in pinstripes and Sarah Palin as a two term president! Things are looking up!
And if you hate Palin so much, then why are you a Yankees fan?? The Yankees are one of the only capitalists left in this country!
If they played according to Obama’s rules, they wouldn’t go after Lee, never would’ve signed CC or Tex because it’s not fair for the rich to get richer. You need to redistribute the wealth to give everyone a fair chance!
Why don’t you go root for the Pirates??
hey hal and hank steinbrenner, go after cliff lee hard dont bring back jeter if u can help it. find a way cheaper short stop and bring back wood and mo and let robertson and jobba go. posoda is a big ? for dh. I would rather put manny there or dunn, berkman, thames, damon.starting pitching is more important than bringing back jeter.if u have 2 only give him a one year deal but thats bein too nice,put the fork in him he is done like ruth,berrnie,joe d.if andy doesnt come back start nova.
Jeter is far more important as a part of the whole. Now forthis upcoming season; A worthy #2 Starter, A worthy 8th ing reliever & last but not least a healthy functional RBI producer… Crawford … Hellooo ? Anyone thinking, talking, declaring or begging for another bat that was so evidently in need last year. I’m thinking my fellow Yankee fans are also batting .270. But no worries, I know… Your only having a off year. Happy Holidays & Go Yankees!