Nov
18

Yankees trade Juan Miranda to D’Backs for not Justin Upton

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The Yankees have traded first baseman/designated hitter Juan Miranda to the Diamondbacks for right-handed pitching prospect Scottie Allen. The moves frees up a 40-man roster spot as well. Allen was Arizona’s 11th round pick in 2009, and this year he posted a 2.97 FIP (9.12 K/9, 2.54 BB/9) in 16 starts (78 IP) with their Low-A affiliate. I can’t find anything on the kid, no scouting report, nothing. He is listed at 6-foot-1 and 170 lbs., so there’s that. Oh, and he doesn’t turn 20 until next July, so he’s just a pup. Obviously the Kevin Towers factor comes into play here, and chances are this is the “small player moveBrian Cashman teased earlier in the week.

Miranda was a man without a home with the Yankees, getting buried behind Mark Teixeira and even Nick Swisher on the first base depth chart. He crushed Triple-A pitching (.377 wOBA) in his three years down there, but he never got much of an opportunity with the big league team. In 94 plate appearances with New York, he put up a more than respectable .343 wOBA. Miranda was out of options, so if he didn’t break camp with the Yanks next year he would have had to clear waivers to go back to minors. He’ll get a better shot in Arizona, so good luck to him.


Update:
Joel Sherman has a mini-scouting report on Allen. Says he’s 88-93 with a chance for an above average curveball. They like his arm action and his control, evidenced by his walk-rate this season. Interesting arm, they weren’t going to get much for Miranda since he was out of options. A prospect of Allen’s caliber is about the best they could have hoped for.

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104 Comments»

  1. jon says:

    great move

    juan might actually get a chance in the bigs and that kid had some decent numbers 8.9 K/9 and 2.7 BB/9.

    • tommy boy says:

      Yeah that will happen in the majors sitting at 88-91.

      Another mistake by the Yankees dumped for peanuts.

      • Thomas says:

        He is 19. He could definitely still add velocity and improve his other pitches.

      • It'sATarp says:

        you right control pitchers can’t live in the low 90′s/high 80′s. Tell that to cliff lee…

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        Where is Miranda going to play? A 19 year old who strikes out people and doens’t walk much is a good thing to have.

        better than a AAAA player who’s only options are blocked by much better players.

        Montero >>>>> Miranda
        JoPo (DH) >>>>> Miranda
        Teix >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Miranda

      • batman says:

        yea because miranda was so valuable to the future of our team… ill take a 19 year old that dominated single a over a 27 year old AAAA player any day of the week

      • steve (different one) says:

        Overreact much? How was Miranda a “mistake”? He was a low cost gamble that wound up blocked by a better player. He was acquired for peanuts and traded for peanuts. Who cares?

  2. Sam says:

    Scottie Allen to the 8th!!!!

  3. theyankeewarrior says:

    All this does is make me want to keep refreshing MLBTR.

    Upton, Jeter, Lee, Cashman, Lee, Upton, Jeter, Cashman, Jeter, Lee, Jeter, Lee, Jeter, Mo, Andy, Jeter, Upton, Jeter, Andy, Lee, Mo, Jeter, Upton, Jeter, Lee, Cashman, Lee, Upton, Jeter, Cashman, Jeter, Lee, Jeter, Lee, Jeter, Mo, Andy, Jeter, Upton, Jeter, Andy, Lee, Mo, Jeter

    Make something happen!

    /impatient’d

  4. Poopy Pants made fun of me when I said it was a bullpen move or minor league trade. So to you Poopy Pants, HAHAHA.

    Anyway, I am happy for Juan, he finally has a chance to play full time. I hope for the best with him.

  5. RR says:

    Glad Miranda will get a better chance to play. Hopefully this is breaking the ice, so talks about Upton can get serious.

  6. Mike HC says:

    I always liked Miranda and thought he should have gotten a chance to be the platoon DH instead of trading for Berkman. I think he will succeed with the DBacks and happy he finally gets a rightfully deserved chance to play in the Majors. Happy the Yanks were able to a get a young talent back for him as well though.

  7. I can’t find anything about this not to like.

    Miranda was out of options (and of limited value anyway) and therefore had no role on the team. Scottie Allen is a hard(ish) throwing 19 year old kid in A-ball who doesn’t require a 40-man spot and won’t even be R5 eligible for like 3 more years.

    Even if Allen never amounts to shit, we got a lottery ticket for a guy we probably would have DFA’d at some point in the near future.

  8. Mattchu12 says:

    Don’t knock what you get in a deal for a surplus player. We traded Alberto Gonzalez to the Nats for Jhonny Nunez way back when, and Nunez ended up being part of the Swisher deal.

    Miranda had no future in the Bronx, while Allen could help us at some point on the field in a trade.

  9. Thomas says:

    Apparently the AZ Snakepit guys were fans of Allen. Their prospect guru had him as the 8th best DBacks prospect.

    http://www.azsnakepit.com/2010.....om-yankees

  10. There goes my idea of acquiring Gavin Floyd for a package of Miranda and Venditte.

  11. tommy boy says:

    Let’s see the Yankees trade Melancon for Berkman because they didn’t want to play Miranda only to trade Miranda for a lesser bullpen arm.

    Berkman with the Yankees? 91 OPS+
    Miranda with the Yankees? 90 OPS+

    Makes sense.

    • Steve O. says:

      Berkman was much better in the playoffs with a much longer track record than Miranda. You know this.

    • It'sATarp says:

      Miranda in 3 seasons provided .3 fWAR…berkman in half a season less gave us the same.

      • tommy boy says:

        Ummmmm, Berkman got more PAs in that half season than Miranda got in those three combined. Thanks for proving my point.

        • It'sATarp says:

          Berkman had an amazing 20 more AB’s. Oh man what a difference. Honestly if you were going to pick between berkman or a 27 year old journeyman…you honestly would take miranda? In a follow up question…if you took miranda…are you friggin nuts?

          • Clay Bellinger says:

            Anyone who would choose Miranda in that scenario should be banned from all MLB front offices…actually, they should be banned from all baseball blogs.

            • hello9 says:

              You’re actually choosing Berkman over Miranda + Melancon, which makes it marginally closer, but probably doesn’t change the end result.

    • Clay Bellinger says:

      Come on man, don’t compare Juan Miranda to Lance Berkman.

      • tommy boy says:

        Yeah, silly statistics…

        Berkman was great with the glove too. Nah, there’s no comparison there at all.

        • Clay Bellinger says:

          You’re looking at the statistics from a part of one season man. So the Yanks should’ve disregarded the rest of Berkman’s career when deciding who would be better to have in the lineup over the last couple months between the two players?

          …and since you like stats so much, why don’t you check out Lance’s UZR? Not so bad bro.

          Quit making a fool of yourself and comparing a legit major league player to a scrub.

    • Mike HC says:

      I’m with you. I don’t think the Yanks ever gave Miranda enough respect. Towers obviously saw his value in the short time he was here.

      Lets just hope the guy we got in return is pretty good. Everyone seems to be relatively ignorant about him, so time will tell.

    • steve (different one) says:

      What does this have to do with the 2011 Yankees? Nothing. Lance Berkman isn’t blocking Miranda anymore, Posada and Teixeira are. He’s out of options. Makes sense to trade him.

      I get that you didn’t like the Berkman trade, but it’s irrelevant now.

    • Clay Bellinger says:

      Agreed, nice move. Really nothing bad that can be said about this.

      • tommy boy says:

        Except that swapping Miranda and Melancon for Berkman and this bullpen fodder is a loss of value.

        • theyankeewarrior says:

          They sacrificed a tiny bit of value that they probably would have had to give up anyway (Miranda was out of options) for an upgrade to their ALCS starting lineup.

          That’s something that you do every time.

          Berkman was awesome in the ALDS. Aside from Grandy, he was our best hitter.

          This is a MINOR MOVE that is completely unrelated to Lance Berkman.

        • theyankeewarrior says:

          Correction: they sacrificed Melancon’s value for Berkman and Miranda’s tiny value for the upside and control (both in years of control and pitch command) of Scottie.

          Berkman still has nothing to do with this move.

        • It'sATarp says:

          why would it be a loss in value when they weren’t traded for each other? Unless you have a crystal ball and know how Allen is going to end up when he hits the MLB level, it’d not value lost when bother Miranda and Melcancon provided no value for us this year and probably no value for the future.

        • Clay Bellinger says:

          Where’s all this value that they lost? Miranda? It became pretty damn apparent that they had no use for him at the ML level.

  12. vin says:

    Sounds like a 19 year old David Robertson. Low 90′s FB, potentially good curveball, slight build. Perhaps Allen will be ready to take over for David Robertson when he hits FA.

    • Steve O. says:

      I don’t think so. Robertson has an insane K-rate, while Allen’s is good, not great. I’m not sure who a good comparison for Allen, but it’s hard to place a comparison on him when he’s still so young and undeveloped.

      • vin says:

        9.1 k/9 for a starter is pretty impressive. But, yeah, trying to pin his future down at this point is an exercise in futility. I was just making a potential (and perhaps lazy) comparison.

        • Yeah, not much sense in trying to figure out what he is yet. Considering Miranda was going to be a waste of 40 man roster spot, getting someone with any upside at all seems like you can call the trade a win from the get-go even if he doesn’t pan out.

      • sleepykarl says:

        The low 90′s FB, good CB and slight build do describe Robertson, he’s just a lot better and K’s guys at a much higher rate. I see what he was getting at, stuff-wise it seems like a decent comparison, but performance-wise not really.

  13. Steve O. says:

    Wait, we traded with the Diamondbacks and didn’t acquire Justin Upton? What the hell, Cashman?

    • vin says:

      Cashman will probably just try to slip Justin Upton’s name into the fine print of the trade agreement. Pull a fast one on his BFF Towers.

      Dude’s a ninja.

  14. Kiersten says:

    This has to be said:

    Scottie? I mean, is he 6 years old?

  15. mikeH says:

    sad news, he had two walk offs in his yankee career (1 in 2009, and 1 in 2010)

    leaves us with no immediate 1B depth

  16. jsbrendog (returns) says:

    i can see it now, miranda does well and all the ig’nant yankee fans go GREAT MOVE CASH IZ TEH SUXOR

  17. Zack says:

    Funny how trolls try to rip Cashman for anything.

    You cured cancer? Hope you’re proud, now what about AIDS?!

  18. Iron says:

    Beam me up Scottie…

  19. Riddering says:

    Allen will be the Yankees 2016 opening day pitcher. Book it.

  20. YankeesJunkie says:

    Nice move for the Yanks. Miranda was not going anywhere with the Yankees and they got a guy that has put up some solid numbers in A who has not hit 20. Nothing to complain about unless you really think Tex is a serious injury risk or want to have him as a DH which would not really be beneficial for the Yanks.

  21. Shaun says:

    I’m glad, hopefully Juan will get a chance to play in the bigs. Best of luck to him

  22. hlrjr says:

    so does brandon laird become our 1st basemen down at Scranton?

    or is he still in the “super utility mix”?

  23. YANKS1FAN says:

    The Yanks had no choice but to move him. They also wanted to bring Jorge ‘El Destructor’ Vazquez up. Plus Miranda can only play 1b. Jorge can play 1b and 3b. Jorge is a monster. Will be excellent off the bench and giving A-Rod and Tex a day off. the last four years in Mexico AAA, he averaged for a full season, .350, 52hr and 150rbi. In two seasons with the Yankees organization, in 143 games in AA and AAA he hit .302, 40 doubles, 31hr, and 118rbi. the last 12 games of AAA this year he hit .300, 5hr 10rbi, 10BB, .440obp, .725slg, and 1.165ops. In AAA in 76games he had 18hr and 62rbi. Plus he only had one error in his last 26 games at first, .995%. In the WBC with Mexico he hit right behind Adrian Gonzalez and hit .300. His first WBC at bat was a 475ft grand slam. He is ready, and the Yankees know this.

  24. bonestock94 says:

    It’ll be interesting to see if Miranda sticks, I guess Towers liked what he saw. Hopefully the kid we got can hack it in the pen in a few years.

  25. yankees1717 says:

    nothing not to like here. it’s basically like buying a ticket in a really crappy lottery, but getting it for free. of course, there’s not a very good chance allen amounts to anything, but miranda had no future here.

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