Dec
27
Open Thread: Snowpocalypse 2010
BySo we had ourselves a little bit of a snowstorm here in Tri-State Area yesterday into this morning, eh? I spent most of the morning shoveling out various cars and I’m still stuck at mother’s place for the holiday. It sucks, she won’t let me go back down to the basement. See what I did there? Anyway, hope everyone is safe, it was rather treacherous last night.
Here’s the open thread for the evening. The Saints are in Atlanta, the Isles are playing the Rangers in the Garden, and the Magic are visiting the Nets. Talk about whatever your heart desires.






I got plowed in. That was fun.
“I got plowed” is how I read this at first
LOL
Did anyone else spend the day yelling at the TV out of frustration? All I wanted was to watch The People’s Court, and instead I had to deal with hours of unscheduled news informing me that it had, in fact, snowed yesterday.
I don’t turn the TV on till Jeopardy on a weeknight.
there wasnt even any price is right cause of the stupid news
This always infuriated me when I was younger.
The president is speaking on every other damn channel, why can’t I watch TPIR???
Got a solid foot of snow, just enough to make the snow blower stop working *angryface*
Can we start a HOF campaign for Joe Carter similar to Jack Morris’?
It can be based on:
A dumb stat that doesn’t mean as much as people think it means (RBIs in Carter’s case. Only five players have ever had multiple seasons of 100+ RBIs when they had a double-digit OPS+. Carter is the only guy to have ever done this three times)
Something nebulous like fear (he twice led the league in IBB)
An all-time great moment (WS-winning walkoff home run)
I think this would be a good way to illuminate how silly Morris’ case is.
Seconded, but you knew that already.
….or it could get them both in.
/think about it
This, alas
I’m resigned to Morris getting in. It’s inevitable at this point, and I think it’ll happen at some point in the next two years.
Carter actually already dropped off the ballot, he only got 3.4% (19 votes) on his only try.
If Morris gets in Pettitte pretty much has to get in.
Re: Carter dropping off the ballot. Paging the Veterans Committee!
If Morris gets in Pettitte pretty much has to get in.
Meh. Since when did consistency have anything to do with Hall of Fame voting?
At some point we’re all just going to take the Rob Neyer approach and not take anything that comes out of Cooperstown all that seriously anymore.
When institutions lose their credibility, new ones take their place. Maybe BR will have a hall of its own one of these days, one with objective standards.
http://www.baseballthinkfactor....._of_merit/
Voting by nerdy SABR types!
Most importantly, he’s the reason why Mitch Williams can’t talk about what it takes to win a World Series.
Spent about 5 hours trying to get into work today before I made it back home again. I would just like to say a hearty fuck you to WCBS-AM, 1010 WINS, WFAN, WBBR and WABC for not mentioning that the BQE north was closed this morning from the Prospect to Brooklyn Heights.
I had work today too but when I looked out the windows I knew my job wasn’t worth dieing over.
I came to the same conclusion last week. I had a white shirt I wanted to make black, but figured it wasn’t worth dieing over.
/facepalm
Hahahaha!
NEWS FLASH:
A man who worked at a Tool and Die company died today when hit by a tool.
Carlin’d
I don’t know what’s more excruciating. The Yankees offseason thus far or being snowed in. I really hope Cash works out a magic trade for a SP. At the rate everything is going though, I doubt it.
all good things to those who wait.
Andy Pettitte’s Yankeeography hasn’t been updated since the beginning of the 2007 season. It’s really amusing because like 50% of it is about what good friends he is with Clemens and how hard they work out together. Uh…
Posada’s hasn’t been updated since midway through the 2004 season but it just needs to be updated, there’s no “oh boy this is awkward and awful in retrospect!” stuff.
Roger-”Hey Andy, could you come over here and shove this needle in my ass? I can’t do it myself.”
Andy-”Sure Rog. Hey, what is this stuff anyways?”
Roger-”B-12″
Andy-”Really? Then why does it say ‘WINSTROL’ on the label? Isn’t that the stuff they use on horses?”
Roger-”Andy, you must’ve misremembered what you just read.”
..aaaaand scene!
Andy-”"
I have the game where Clemens got win #300 and was half-watching it a few days ago. Apparently Clemens had been sick/had a cold in the last game he pitched, and the announcers were assuring everyone that he wasn’t sick any more and he was “off his B-12 shots.” I had to laugh.
Also, obligatory:
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2007/1.....ll-report/
(SFW but some errr, mature humor?)
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.c.....-wide-zone
Could someone explain to me what, if anything, this means? First thing I need to know is how the strike zone is defined and measured. Because the rule book strike zone varies from batter to batter, for what I hope are obvious reasons. If this uses a constant, defined strike zone plot, then pitches called out of the zone may very well actually be strikes, in which case I’m not sure what the point is.
Just a question, it may already account for the stuff I mentioned.
My Adult Snow Day was excellent. “Working from home” meant reply to a single e-mail from a client, I slogged through GI Joe on Netflix, ate tv a TV dinner for lunch, and then took a nap at 3pm.
God bless you, Snowicane.
How many angry phone calls did you make to sports radio shows regarding Tom Coughlin?
Adult Snow Day
That’s what, scotch, hookers, and online poker?
Whaaa-whaaa! snow ! My goodness, downstate gets a little snow and you think the world was coming to an end… lol… dude, deal with more than 100 inches a winter on average then you can complain.
I spent four years of my life in Syracuse. Thank you very much.
Ive spent all my life in Rochester and NYC should be happy they got a little snow..
So, is Tris Speaker the most underrated player of all time?
He has the misfortune of being a great center fielder, but playing at the same time of perhaps the greatest center fielder (Ty Cobb). He was also outshined by guys like DiMaggio in the 40s, and then Mays and Mantle in the 50s and 60s. He’s an underrated guy, but for most underrated player ever…hmmm. I’d go someone like Mel Ott or maybe Johnny Mize. Everyone that knows baseball knows that Speaker is the fucking man.
FG War actually has him above Mantle and DiMaggio .According to them, he’s the 7th best player in MLB history.
Sigh…being the best player isn’t about how much fWAR you’ve acquired. There’s several factors to account for when judging greatness such as peak, career value, etc. Mantle was a one legged man for most of his career, and DiMaggio went to war, retired at the first sign of a slip, and he had the shittastic OYS dimensions to deal with as a RHH. Him, Joe Gordon, and Mickey Mantle from the right hand side are the only RHH Yankees to ever have success at a high level during the OYS days
So, anybody else think it’s a good idea to sign Jeff Francis because even if he doesn’t pan out as a starter, he might be pretty valuable out of the bullpen? His fastball would gain a couple ticks and he throws a mean slurve if I recall correctly.
Just a thought for a slow night.
JGS, you missed the best pro-Joe Carter argument there is, but it’s more in the Jim Rice category than the Jack Morris one. As we all know, Rice led the AL in HR and RBI over a 10 year span.
Carter led all of baseball in HR and RBI over a 10 year span. Put him in the HOF immediately.
That’s a Morris argument too. Most wins in the 1980s!
Here’s another Carter one. He OPS’d 1.476 off Nolan Ryan, 1.200 against Tom Seaver, and .927 against Joe Carter.
He owned Hall of Famers. Owned them.
He OPS’d .927 against himself? Daaaaman.
That’s how good he is. Also, he had an alternate career as a pitcher named Don Sutton.
I wish I was snowed in today. All I want to do ever is watch more Dexter.
Kemba is about to make the Pitt Panthers aware.
Pitt is now aware that Kemba is UConn’s only true threat
Ha yeah how did that work out
Hail To Pitt
Joe Carter was the only player in baseball with 1000 RBI over a span of 10 years. HOF.
I always suspected axisa lived in his mothers basement.
This comes from a place of love, but he comes off like a nerd and seems way too knowledgeable about baseball, like he has too much time on his hands.
No offense, Mike.
Mike what’s that Rangers Blog you always post in the chats?
http://www.blueseatblogs.com
Question regarding the HoF, worst player you’d let in and the best player you’d keep out. The worst guy I’d let in the hall would probably be Mark McGuire and I can’t think of the best player I’d keep out. I’m unsure of my picks so I’d like to hear yours.
I disagree with McGwire because he wasn’t at all a bad player. Just an arrogant roided bastard.
The worst player I’d let in is Andy Pettitte, who will not make it in.
The best player I’d keep out? Juan Gonzales. I still have a grudge for that ’96 MVP.
I’m not suggesting McGwire is a bad player, just that he’s the worst player I would let in the hall.
Juan Gone? There is no way in hell I’d let him anywhere near the hall. He’s worse than Jim Rice.
The best player I’d keep out? Juan Gonzales. I still have a grudge for that ’96 MVP.
Either you have a really big Hall, or you’re vastly overrating Juan Gone.
I would never let him, the thing is I’ve actually seen some columns by accredited journalists saying he’s a HOFer.
Scary shit.
Worst player I’d let in – Whitey Ford?
Best player I’d keep out – it’s probably Palmiero. I’m also probably iffier on Ozzie Smith than others.
Ford and Palmiero probably seem like good endpoints for small hall guys.
Hate to say it because I love him but Whitey Ford is probably a little overrated, even if he’s the best homegrown pitcher the Yankees ever had. Doesn’t help that he lost those years (not that it was a ton of years) to the war, though.
3170 IP at 133 ERA+? Even if you’re going by strict WAR, there’s plenty of HOF below Ford.
Just off the top of my head, Whitey is better than Bob Feller.
OK I guess going off the top of my head wasn’t the best idea, but they’re awfully close.
Disagree. Feller is ~10 WAR ahead, and he missed four years for WWII.
Feller missed 4 years of his prime to the War (not WAR) though.
Serious question:
What is entertaining about hockey?
I like the fights personally
Fast paced intensity and the grittyness
The guy sitting next to Arthur Blank looks like a guy I used to do coke with.
Also, put Joe Carter in the Hall. I mean it, the place is already a joke and I want to see Mitch Williams give his HoF salute.
I really wish Drew Brees would throw a couple of TD passes to Colston.
Repeating my question from the Swisher thread.
http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....nt-1464118
I think they use TZ.
Which would make it slightly different than rWAR, since they use different offensive components.
Nothing about Garrett Wittels? Where was this guy ranked for the draft?
So would anyone consider a rotation of…
CC
Hughes
AJ
Nova
Joba/Mitre (pitch both on the same day. Trade off who starts. One does first 5 innings unless they get shelled the other does 4)
hahah it could work maybe. I know this is a bit loaded with Joba starting or whatever but hey.
Joba/Mitre (pitch both on the same day. Trade off who starts. One does first 5 innings unless they get shelled the other does 4)
Nah. Tandem starters is for the minor leagues, or if someone’s injured. And I’d prefer they not half-ass Joba. Either he’s back to the rotation, or he’s in the pen, not some sort of swingman.
I would loooooove Joba to start but I think that ship has sailed.
Wish it hadn’t, or we’d know better why it had (injury issues, something else, who knows).
I hate MLB Network now. Why is it that MLB Network analysts are terrible? Mitch Williams, Harold Reynolds and Ken Rosenthal (gasp) had these teams in their top 5 teams in baseball: Boston, Philadelphia, Texas, Rockies, Brewers and Cardinals? No Yankees who won 95 games last year? The Yanks weren’t in anyone’s top 5. Apparently the Rockies are better. Then Rosenthal says that “Let’s not forget the Rangers…they ARE the AL champions”….”but what about losing Lee and Guerrero”, Rosenthal : “…regardless they’re league champions”. Does that make sense?
Mitch Williams had the Phillies as the best team in baseball. Sure they significantly upgraded their pitching, but their lack of a bullpen, age, and weak offense probably puts them at 90-93 wins next season.
I have no problem with calling the Phillies the best team in baseball on paper. They’re quite overrated offensively, but still good, especially in the NL. I agree with all the issues you mentioned… and they’ll still probably win over 93 games, easily, maybe even with catastrophic injury; pretty sure they lost more days to the DL than precious Boston last year, and it was mostly important players.
(Not that it matters, Mitch Williams would say the Phillies are the best team in baseball if they had the Pirates’ roster, just without Alvarez or anyone else good that may be on there.)
Off the top of my head the best teams in baseball (IMO) right now would probably be: Philly, Boston, SF, maybe Tampa if they keep all their starters, and probably Atlanta. The AL teams are kinda weak…it sucks when the Yankees basically have to pray for a WC berth. Three replacement level starters in the rotation…WHOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Am I the only one thinking (and hioping) Atlanta can beat out Philly? Their 5 ptichers are pretty solid and they have a better offense than the Phillies. Not to mention a bit younger too
MLBN’s programming is great but its analysis is just fucking awful and getting worse. No Giants, either? Reds, Braves, Rays?
I was very upset with Ken Rosenthal. He’s actually a columnist, Williams and Reynolds are just hacks. Yet in his top 5 the Yankees, Rays, and Giants were no where to be found. And Reynolds saying that the Rockies will be the 5th best team is lunacy. This is what happens when the hot stove calms down and the season is still three months away.
Rosenthal’s still dumb. Not Reynolds and Williams dumb, but dumb.
Texas? You’re kidding me. I’m sure they’re docking the Yankees serious points for Cliff Lee not joining them…but he wasn’t actually on their team last year. He did, in fact, pitch for Texas. Somehow I think losing an ace who pitched for your team is worse than losing an ace who didn’t pitch for your team.
By Ken Rosenthal’s logic, just because they won the pennant last year means that they are “still” the AL champs and have to be in the top 5 and better than the Yankees. Regardless of them losing Lee and Guerrero.
Thats not really his logic. The Rangers were a top team last year, they lost Lee and Guerrero but they will be adding a lot of talent in 2011. Their farm system is incredible right now. Their 40 man roster may not look like a top 5 team, but when you look at the organization and the talent in their other systems you have to think they’ll be ready to be a top 5 team in 2011.
On the other hand, the Yankees farm system is good, but aside from Montero, it shouldn’t make any major contributions. Where the Ranger’s farm system can help where they are weak, the Yankees have basically no legitimate star pitchers to reach the majors in 2011. Their 40 man roster is a top 5 team, but organization wouldn’t be top 5 for me in 2011.
I don’t like Rosenthal but there is a case to be made that the Rangers organization is more prepared for 2011 than the Yankees.
That and they just lost a DH and their top of the rotation starter. Losing Cliff Lee is a huge blow, but they can find someone to replicate Vlad’s production, and their farm can contribute another a starter. The Yankees are expecting a comeback from a 36 year old shortstop, a 35 year old former steroid using third basemen with a bad hip, and a a 34 year old righty with injury problems and control issues.
This is one of my best guy friends:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hp.....5776_n.jpg
How do I wind up with these people?
(no but for serious he’s a really good guy and we talk objectively about sports all the time)
When I was 19, I considered getting “FOR THOSE I LOVE I WILL SACRIFICE” in a half circle around my abs.
Yikes.
The B’s must be for Backne
I laughed
Would you rather:
a) Be snowed in and forced to stay in your mother’s basement
or
b) Be snowed in at your local movie theater and be forced to watch Little Fockers.
Be honest, guys.
b)
Movie looks awful, but my mother’s basement isn’t heated. Or insulated. (Of course, she probably wouldn’t make me stay down there. So, a)
My mother’s basement sucks. I’ll watch the terrible movie.
I went and saw Little Fockers with my parents solely because I really wanted movie theatre popcorn. The movie was so horrible that it nearly ruined my favorite snack (popcorn) forever.
lmao
@Accent Shallow indecision fan? i have that on my collarbone
Yeah.
I must have seen Most Precious Blood a dozen times in/around the NYC area.
What’s the difference between a pickpocket & a peeping tom?
One snatches watches..
lol
but the opposite “one watches snatches” doesn’t make sense =(
now if you could make a joke that incorporates the words “snitch” and “bitch” that would be clever.
The punchline would be:
One snitches on bitches
One bitches on snitches
Ha, well if you think about it, what does a peeping tom see (or watch)..?
you nasty! lol
The Jingle Bell Bitch from the Hyundai commercial is so annoying
Hahaha, good call Joe…I change the channel everytime I see her ugly mug.
Saito , one year under $2M…come on that was one we could’ve had…
I wouldn’t lose sleep over it. He really can’t pitch on back-to-back days and he’ll probably spend half the season on the DL. Sounds like you’re just desperate for a signing more than anything.
Mo’s the GOAT but how many 40+-year-olds should we have on this team?
No, I really liked Takashi Saito and thought we could use another good righty out of the pen. Regardless of how old he is, he was effective last year. I’d rather have a 40 year old with Saito’s numbers for one year than a mediocre 20 year old.
It’s Free agency. We don’t know that Saito would have taken the same offer from the Yankees. We don’t know that Saito would have taken double that from the Yankees. And all of what Mike said.
OK, I do agree with this post. He may have asked for much more from the Yankees, and in that case let me say I would have liked to have Saito at that price (1 year, 2M).
Follow JR Murphy on Twitter!
http://twitter.com/JRMurphy513
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....picks.html
Why isn’t Soriano on this list? He has to still be a Type A.
Nevermind, they screwed up.
Mets Acquire Chin-lung Hu!
COME ON CASHMAN MAKE A MOVE!
*rabble* *rabble* *rabble* *rabble*
Now Mets fans can all start making their “Hu’s on First” jokes.
Jo-Se is on Second.
I really dig that photo—would make a pretty cool album cover. But it’s from AP, so it would probably be crazy expensive to use.