Dec
27

Open Thread: Snowpocalypse 2010

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A pedestrian walk down the middle of Clinton St. during a snowstorm. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

So we had ourselves a little bit of a snowstorm here in Tri-State Area yesterday into this morning, eh? I spent most of the morning shoveling out various cars and I’m still stuck at mother’s place for the holiday. It sucks, she won’t let me go back down to the basement. See what I did there? Anyway, hope everyone is safe, it was rather treacherous last night.

Here’s the open thread for the evening. The Saints are in Atlanta, the Isles are playing the Rangers in the Garden, and the Magic are visiting the Nets. Talk about whatever your heart desires.

Categories : Open Thread
  • Squishy Jello Person

    I got plowed in. That was fun.

    • icebird753

      “I got plowed” is how I read this at first

      • John Paul

        LOL

  • Rex Ryan’s Foot in the Door

    Did anyone else spend the day yelling at the TV out of frustration? All I wanted was to watch The People’s Court, and instead I had to deal with hours of unscheduled news informing me that it had, in fact, snowed yesterday.

    • Squishy Jello Person

      I don’t turn the TV on till Jeopardy on a weeknight.

    • jsbrendog

      there wasnt even any price is right cause of the stupid news

      • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

        This always infuriated me when I was younger.

        The president is speaking on every other damn channel, why can’t I watch TPIR???

  • http://www.twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

    Got a solid foot of snow, just enough to make the snow blower stop working *angryface*

  • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

    Can we start a HOF campaign for Joe Carter similar to Jack Morris’?

    It can be based on:

    A dumb stat that doesn’t mean as much as people think it means (RBIs in Carter’s case. Only five players have ever had multiple seasons of 100+ RBIs when they had a double-digit OPS+. Carter is the only guy to have ever done this three times)

    Something nebulous like fear (he twice led the league in IBB)

    An all-time great moment (WS-winning walkoff home run)

    I think this would be a good way to illuminate how silly Morris’ case is.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

      Seconded, but you knew that already.

    • http://www.retire21.com first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21

      ….or it could get them both in.

      /think about it

      • Squishy Jello Person

        This, alas

      • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

        I’m resigned to Morris getting in. It’s inevitable at this point, and I think it’ll happen at some point in the next two years.

        Carter actually already dropped off the ballot, he only got 3.4% (19 votes) on his only try.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

          If Morris gets in Pettitte pretty much has to get in.

          Re: Carter dropping off the ballot. Paging the Veterans Committee!

          • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

            If Morris gets in Pettitte pretty much has to get in.

            Meh. Since when did consistency have anything to do with Hall of Fame voting?

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

      At some point we’re all just going to take the Rob Neyer approach and not take anything that comes out of Cooperstown all that seriously anymore.

      When institutions lose their credibility, new ones take their place. Maybe BR will have a hall of its own one of these days, one with objective standards.

    • Jimmy McNulty

      Most importantly, he’s the reason why Mitch Williams can’t talk about what it takes to win a World Series.

  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

    Spent about 5 hours trying to get into work today before I made it back home again. I would just like to say a hearty fuck you to WCBS-AM, 1010 WINS, WFAN, WBBR and WABC for not mentioning that the BQE north was closed this morning from the Prospect to Brooklyn Heights.

    • mbonzo

      I had work today too but when I looked out the windows I knew my job wasn’t worth dieing over.

      • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

        I came to the same conclusion last week. I had a white shirt I wanted to make black, but figured it wasn’t worth dieing over.

        • mbonzo

          /facepalm

          • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

            Hahahaha!

        • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

          NEWS FLASH:

          A man who worked at a Tool and Die company died today when hit by a tool.

          • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

            Carlin’d

  • Granderslam

    I don’t know what’s more excruciating. The Yankees offseason thus far or being snowed in. I really hope Cash works out a magic trade for a SP. At the rate everything is going though, I doubt it.

    • candyforstalin

      all good things to those who wait.

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

    Andy Pettitte’s Yankeeography hasn’t been updated since the beginning of the 2007 season. It’s really amusing because like 50% of it is about what good friends he is with Clemens and how hard they work out together. Uh…

    Posada’s hasn’t been updated since midway through the 2004 season but it just needs to be updated, there’s no “oh boy this is awkward and awful in retrospect!” stuff.

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

      Roger-“Hey Andy, could you come over here and shove this needle in my ass? I can’t do it myself.”

      Andy-“Sure Rog. Hey, what is this stuff anyways?”

      Roger-“B-12″

      Andy-“Really? Then why does it say ‘WINSTROL’ on the label? Isn’t that the stuff they use on horses?”

      Roger-“Andy, you must’ve misremembered what you just read.”

      ..aaaaand scene!

      Andy-“”

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

        I have the game where Clemens got win #300 and was half-watching it a few days ago. Apparently Clemens had been sick/had a cold in the last game he pitched, and the announcers were assuring everyone that he wasn’t sick any more and he was “off his B-12 shots.” I had to laugh.

        Also, obligatory:
        http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2007/1.....ll-report/
        (SFW but some errr, mature humor?)

  • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.c.....-wide-zone

    Could someone explain to me what, if anything, this means? First thing I need to know is how the strike zone is defined and measured. Because the rule book strike zone varies from batter to batter, for what I hope are obvious reasons. If this uses a constant, defined strike zone plot, then pitches called out of the zone may very well actually be strikes, in which case I’m not sure what the point is.

    Just a question, it may already account for the stuff I mentioned.

  • Hughesus Christo

    My Adult Snow Day was excellent. “Working from home” meant reply to a single e-mail from a client, I slogged through GI Joe on Netflix, ate tv a TV dinner for lunch, and then took a nap at 3pm.

    God bless you, Snowicane.

    • Jimmy McNulty

      How many angry phone calls did you make to sports radio shows regarding Tom Coughlin?

    • Accent Shallow

      Adult Snow Day

      That’s what, scotch, hookers, and online poker?

  • Upstate Rob

    Whaaa-whaaa! snow ! My goodness, downstate gets a little snow and you think the world was coming to an end… lol… dude, deal with more than 100 inches a winter on average then you can complain.

    • Squishy Jello Person

      I spent four years of my life in Syracuse. Thank you very much.

    • http://www.twitter.com/adorador00 Ray Fuego

      Ive spent all my life in Rochester and NYC should be happy they got a little snow..

  • Total Dominication

    So, is Tris Speaker the most underrated player of all time?

    • Jimmy McNulty

      He has the misfortune of being a great center fielder, but playing at the same time of perhaps the greatest center fielder (Ty Cobb). He was also outshined by guys like DiMaggio in the 40s, and then Mays and Mantle in the 50s and 60s. He’s an underrated guy, but for most underrated player ever…hmmm. I’d go someone like Mel Ott or maybe Johnny Mize. Everyone that knows baseball knows that Speaker is the fucking man.

      • Total Dominication

        FG War actually has him above Mantle and DiMaggio .According to them, he’s the 7th best player in MLB history.

        • Jimmy McNulty

          Sigh…being the best player isn’t about how much fWAR you’ve acquired. There’s several factors to account for when judging greatness such as peak, career value, etc. Mantle was a one legged man for most of his career, and DiMaggio went to war, retired at the first sign of a slip, and he had the shittastic OYS dimensions to deal with as a RHH. Him, Joe Gordon, and Mickey Mantle from the right hand side are the only RHH Yankees to ever have success at a high level during the OYS days

  • Mattchu12

    So, anybody else think it’s a good idea to sign Jeff Francis because even if he doesn’t pan out as a starter, he might be pretty valuable out of the bullpen? His fastball would gain a couple ticks and he throws a mean slurve if I recall correctly.

    Just a thought for a slow night.

  • http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H

    JGS, you missed the best pro-Joe Carter argument there is, but it’s more in the Jim Rice category than the Jack Morris one. As we all know, Rice led the AL in HR and RBI over a 10 year span.

    Carter led all of baseball in HR and RBI over a 10 year span. Put him in the HOF immediately.

    • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS

      That’s a Morris argument too. Most wins in the 1980s!

      • http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H

        Here’s another Carter one. He OPS’d 1.476 off Nolan Ryan, 1.200 against Tom Seaver, and .927 against Joe Carter.

        He owned Hall of Famers. Owned them.

        • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

          He OPS’d .927 against himself? Daaaaman.

          • http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H

            That’s how good he is. Also, he had an alternate career as a pitcher named Don Sutton.

  • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

    I wish I was snowed in today. All I want to do ever is watch more Dexter.

  • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

    Kemba is about to make the Pitt Panthers aware.

    • Carl

      Pitt is now aware that Kemba is UConn’s only true threat

    • Operation Killer B’s

      Ha yeah how did that work out
      Hail To Pitt

  • http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H

    Joe Carter was the only player in baseball with 1000 RBI over a span of 10 years. HOF.

  • Dan

    I always suspected axisa lived in his mothers basement.

    • Jimmy McNulty

      This comes from a place of love, but he comes off like a nerd and seems way too knowledgeable about baseball, like he has too much time on his hands.

      No offense, Mike.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cecala Joseph Cecala

    Mike what’s that Rangers Blog you always post in the chats?

  • Jimmy McNulty

    Question regarding the HoF, worst player you’d let in and the best player you’d keep out. The worst guy I’d let in the hall would probably be Mark McGuire and I can’t think of the best player I’d keep out. I’m unsure of my picks so I’d like to hear yours.

    • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

      I disagree with McGwire because he wasn’t at all a bad player. Just an arrogant roided bastard.

      The worst player I’d let in is Andy Pettitte, who will not make it in.
      The best player I’d keep out? Juan Gonzales. I still have a grudge for that ’96 MVP.

      • Jimmy McNulty

        I’m not suggesting McGwire is a bad player, just that he’s the worst player I would let in the hall.

        Juan Gone? There is no way in hell I’d let him anywhere near the hall. He’s worse than Jim Rice.

      • Accent Shallow


        The best player Iā€™d keep out? Juan Gonzales. I still have a grudge for that ā€™96 MVP.

        Either you have a really big Hall, or you’re vastly overrating Juan Gone.

        • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

          I would never let him, the thing is I’ve actually seen some columns by accredited journalists saying he’s a HOFer.

          Scary shit.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

      Worst player I’d let in – Whitey Ford?
      Best player I’d keep out – it’s probably Palmiero. I’m also probably iffier on Ozzie Smith than others.

      • Jimmy McNulty

        Ford and Palmiero probably seem like good endpoints for small hall guys.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

          Hate to say it because I love him but Whitey Ford is probably a little overrated, even if he’s the best homegrown pitcher the Yankees ever had. Doesn’t help that he lost those years (not that it was a ton of years) to the war, though.

          • Accent Shallow

            3170 IP at 133 ERA+? Even if you’re going by strict WAR, there’s plenty of HOF below Ford.

          • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

            Just off the top of my head, Whitey is better than Bob Feller.

            • http://twitter.com/dpatrickg Dirty Pena

              OK I guess going off the top of my head wasn’t the best idea, but they’re awfully close.

              • Accent Shallow

                Disagree. Feller is ~10 WAR ahead, and he missed four years for WWII.

              • http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H

                Feller missed 4 years of his prime to the War (not WAR) though.

  • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S.

    Serious question:
    What is entertaining about hockey?

    • First time lawng time

      I like the fights personally

    • http://www.facebook.com/cecala Joseph Cecala

      Fast paced intensity and the grittyness

  • Jimmy McNulty

    The guy sitting next to Arthur Blank looks like a guy I used to do coke with.

  • Jimmy McNulty

    Also, put Joe Carter in the Hall. I mean it, the place is already a joke and I want to see Mitch Williams give his HoF salute.

  • Jimmy McNulty

    I really wish Drew Brees would throw a couple of TD passes to Colston.

  • Accent Shallow

    Repeating my question from the Swisher thread.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....nt-1464118

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      I think they use TZ.

      • Accent Shallow

        Which would make it slightly different than rWAR, since they use different offensive components.

  • Hughesus Christo

    Nothing about Garrett Wittels? Where was this guy ranked for the draft?

  • Chuck

    So would anyone consider a rotation of…

    CC
    Hughes
    AJ
    Nova
    Joba/Mitre (pitch both on the same day. Trade off who starts. One does first 5 innings unless they get shelled the other does 4)

    hahah it could work maybe. I know this is a bit loaded with Joba starting or whatever but hey.

    • Accent Shallow

      Joba/Mitre (pitch both on the same day. Trade off who starts. One does first 5 innings unless they get shelled the other does 4)

      Nah. Tandem starters is for the minor leagues, or if someone’s injured. And I’d prefer they not half-ass Joba. Either he’s back to the rotation, or he’s in the pen, not some sort of swingman.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

      I would loooooove Joba to start but I think that ship has sailed. :( Wish it hadn’t, or we’d know better why it had (injury issues, something else, who knows).

  • AJ

    I hate MLB Network now. Why is it that MLB Network analysts are terrible? Mitch Williams, Harold Reynolds and Ken Rosenthal (gasp) had these teams in their top 5 teams in baseball: Boston, Philadelphia, Texas, Rockies, Brewers and Cardinals? No Yankees who won 95 games last year? The Yanks weren’t in anyone’s top 5. Apparently the Rockies are better. Then Rosenthal says that “Let’s not forget the Rangers…they ARE the AL champions”….”but what about losing Lee and Guerrero”, Rosenthal : “…regardless they’re league champions”. Does that make sense?

    • http://twitter.com/Carlosological Carlosologist

      Mitch Williams had the Phillies as the best team in baseball. Sure they significantly upgraded their pitching, but their lack of a bullpen, age, and weak offense probably puts them at 90-93 wins next season.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

        I have no problem with calling the Phillies the best team in baseball on paper. They’re quite overrated offensively, but still good, especially in the NL. I agree with all the issues you mentioned… and they’ll still probably win over 93 games, easily, maybe even with catastrophic injury; pretty sure they lost more days to the DL than precious Boston last year, and it was mostly important players.

        (Not that it matters, Mitch Williams would say the Phillies are the best team in baseball if they had the Pirates’ roster, just without Alvarez or anyone else good that may be on there.)

        • Jimmy McNulty

          Off the top of my head the best teams in baseball (IMO) right now would probably be: Philly, Boston, SF, maybe Tampa if they keep all their starters, and probably Atlanta. The AL teams are kinda weak…it sucks when the Yankees basically have to pray for a WC berth. Three replacement level starters in the rotation…WHOOOOOOOOO!!!!

          • Hughesheretoabuse

            Am I the only one thinking (and hioping) Atlanta can beat out Philly? Their 5 ptichers are pretty solid and they have a better offense than the Phillies. Not to mention a bit younger too

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

      MLBN’s programming is great but its analysis is just fucking awful and getting worse. No Giants, either? Reds, Braves, Rays?

      • AJ

        I was very upset with Ken Rosenthal. He’s actually a columnist, Williams and Reynolds are just hacks. Yet in his top 5 the Yankees, Rays, and Giants were no where to be found. And Reynolds saying that the Rockies will be the 5th best team is lunacy. This is what happens when the hot stove calms down and the season is still three months away.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

          Rosenthal’s still dumb. Not Reynolds and Williams dumb, but dumb.

    • China Joe

      Texas? You’re kidding me. I’m sure they’re docking the Yankees serious points for Cliff Lee not joining them…but he wasn’t actually on their team last year. He did, in fact, pitch for Texas. Somehow I think losing an ace who pitched for your team is worse than losing an ace who didn’t pitch for your team.

      • Aj

        By Ken Rosenthal’s logic, just because they won the pennant last year means that they are “still” the AL champs and have to be in the top 5 and better than the Yankees. Regardless of them losing Lee and Guerrero.

        • mbonzo

          Thats not really his logic. The Rangers were a top team last year, they lost Lee and Guerrero but they will be adding a lot of talent in 2011. Their farm system is incredible right now. Their 40 man roster may not look like a top 5 team, but when you look at the organization and the talent in their other systems you have to think they’ll be ready to be a top 5 team in 2011.

          On the other hand, the Yankees farm system is good, but aside from Montero, it shouldn’t make any major contributions. Where the Ranger’s farm system can help where they are weak, the Yankees have basically no legitimate star pitchers to reach the majors in 2011. Their 40 man roster is a top 5 team, but organization wouldn’t be top 5 for me in 2011.

          I don’t like Rosenthal but there is a case to be made that the Rangers organization is more prepared for 2011 than the Yankees.

          • Jimmy McNulty

            That and they just lost a DH and their top of the rotation starter. Losing Cliff Lee is a huge blow, but they can find someone to replicate Vlad’s production, and their farm can contribute another a starter. The Yankees are expecting a comeback from a 36 year old shortstop, a 35 year old former steroid using third basemen with a bad hip, and a a 34 year old righty with injury problems and control issues.

  • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

    This is one of my best guy friends:

    http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hp.....5776_n.jpg

    How do I wind up with these people?

    (no but for serious he’s a really good guy and we talk objectively about sports all the time)

    • Accent Shallow

      When I was 19, I considered getting “FOR THOSE I LOVE I WILL SACRIFICE” in a half circle around my abs.

      Yikes.

    • All Star Carl

      The B’s must be for Backne

      • http://www.facebook.com/cecala Joseph Cecala

        I laughed

  • Wil Nieves #1 Fan

    Would you rather:

    a) Be snowed in and forced to stay in your mother’s basement

    or

    b) Be snowed in at your local movie theater and be forced to watch Little Fockers.

    Be honest, guys.

    • Accent Shallow

      b)

      Movie looks awful, but my mother’s basement isn’t heated. Or insulated. (Of course, she probably wouldn’t make me stay down there. So, a)

    • Aj

      My mother’s basement sucks. I’ll watch the terrible movie.

    • Sean C

      I went and saw Little Fockers with my parents solely because I really wanted movie theatre popcorn. The movie was so horrible that it nearly ruined my favorite snack (popcorn) forever.

      • Aj

        lmao

  • http://davesvinyl.blogspot.com dave

    @Accent Shallow indecision fan? i have that on my collarbone

    • Accent Shallow

      Yeah.

      I must have seen Most Precious Blood a dozen times in/around the NYC area.

  • Turk Turkleton

    What’s the difference between a pickpocket & a peeping tom?

    One snatches watches..

    • http://www.twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

      lol

      but the opposite “one watches snatches” doesn’t make sense =(

      • http://www.twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

        now if you could make a joke that incorporates the words “snitch” and “bitch” that would be clever.

        The punchline would be:

        One snitches on bitches

        One bitches on snitches

        • Turk Turkleton

          Ha, well if you think about it, what does a peeping tom see (or watch)..? :)

          • http://www.twitter.com/ngoral Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

            you nasty! lol

  • http://www.facebook.com/cecala Joseph Cecala

    The Jingle Bell Bitch from the Hyundai commercial is so annoying

    • Turk Turkleton

      Hahaha, good call Joe…I change the channel everytime I see her ugly mug.

  • Aj

    Saito , one year under $2M…come on that was one we could’ve had…

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I wouldn’t lose sleep over it. He really can’t pitch on back-to-back days and he’ll probably spend half the season on the DL. Sounds like you’re just desperate for a signing more than anything.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

        Mo’s the GOAT but how many 40+-year-olds should we have on this team?

      • Aj

        No, I really liked Takashi Saito and thought we could use another good righty out of the pen. Regardless of how old he is, he was effective last year. I’d rather have a 40 year old with Saito’s numbers for one year than a mediocre 20 year old.

    • http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H

      It’s Free agency. We don’t know that Saito would have taken the same offer from the Yankees. We don’t know that Saito would have taken double that from the Yankees. And all of what Mike said.

      • Aj

        OK, I do agree with this post. He may have asked for much more from the Yankees, and in that case let me say I would have liked to have Saito at that price (1 year, 2M).

  • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

    Follow JR Murphy on Twitter!

    http://twitter.com/JRMurphy513

  • Aj

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....picks.html

    Why isn’t Soriano on this list? He has to still be a Type A.

    • Aj

      Nevermind, they screwed up.

  • mbonzo

    Mets Acquire Chin-lung Hu!
    COME ON CASHMAN MAKE A MOVE!
    *rabble* *rabble* *rabble* *rabble*

    • http://www.theyankeeu.com/author/steve-s/ Nostra-Artist

      Now Mets fans can all start making their “Hu’s on First” jokes.

      • Aj

        Jo-Se is on Second.

  • Kiko Jones

    I really dig that photo—would make a pretty cool album cover. But it’s from AP, so it would probably be crazy expensive to use.