Yanks Under the Knife: Alfredo Aceves, Brett Gardner

The RAB Radio Show: December 1, 2010
Open Thread: Where It All Started...

Some people have none of the luck. Take, for instance, Alfredo Aceves. While the Yanks said he might have been available during the World Series had the team made it that far, the versatile long-man missed most of 2010 with a back injury. The Yanks announced this afternoon that Aceves had surgery to fix a broken left clavicle yesterday. The righty injured his collar bone in a bike accident in Mexico. Aceves, says the team, will need three months for rehab, and thus, an early March return will put him a few weeks behind schedule.

Meanwhile, Brett Gardner is set to go under the knife next week in order to cure his right wrist tendinitis. After a hot first half in which he hit .309/.396/.415, Gardner posted just a .232/.364/.330 line during the season’s second half and attributed his slide to a very sore wrist. The Yanks expect their left-fielder to be ready for Spring Training.

The RAB Radio Show: December 1, 2010
Open Thread: Where It All Started...
  • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

    Between this clavicle injury and Aceves’ various other injuries, what is the over/under on the number of innings he throws in 2011?

    • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig


    • Slugger27


    • Chris


    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder


  • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

    So who else needs surgery? The Yankees are setting a record for most surgeries in an off season.

  • crawdaddy

    I bet Aceves starts throwing in February.

    • mbonzo

      He’ll be rehabbing for those 3 months, so it may be even sooner.

  • mbonzo

    Gardner said that his wrist started to bother him June 27th against the Dodgers when he was hit by a pitch.

    From Apr 4th to June 26th he hit .321/.401/.418
    From June 27th to Oct 3rd he hit .232/.365/.340

    • Esteban

      And he had hit .383/.465/.533 in June through 6/26.

    • Mark

      Most impressive thing for me about last season, he maintained a .365 OBP after the injury which proves his knowledge of the zone wasn’t a half season fluke.

      • mbonzo

        I was always impressed with how Gardner progresses every year. I heard somewhere that when he entered college he was forced to play every sport, and he had barely any experience in baseball. When he didn’t make the walk-on tryouts he came back to the first official practice and played beside everyone until he became a starter. If you look at Gardner’s numbers he has progressed every year all the way to 2010. He seems to be a really hard worker and a fast learner.

      • Chris

        There was a 10 game stretch at the beginning of August where he just didn’t get on base at all. If you take that out, then his OBP was over .400 basically the entire season.

        The real impact of his wrist was a complete lack of power in the second half.

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

    Aaron Boone gets hurt playing basketball, the Yankees replace him with Alex Rodriguez.

    Alfredo Aceves gets hurt riding his bike, the Yankees replace him with…..

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      Nick Swisher.

    • FIPster Doofus

      AJ Burnett, after they sign Lee and Pettitte and trade for Greinke.

    • Esteban

      Mike Marshall’s 1974 season

      • http://www.twitter.com/jordansmed JGS


  • theyankeewarrior

    Riding a bicycle = stupid.

    Riding a bicycle fast enough to get injured = stupider.

    Riding a bicycle fast enough to get injured while you’re rehabbing from a back injury = stupiderer

    Riding a bicycle fast enough to get injured while you’re rehabbing from a back injury AND YOU’RE A FUCKING PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PLAYER THAT’S LOOKING AT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN RAISES IF YOU CAN HAVE A SUCCESSFUL SEASON = stupidest.

    Awesome, Alfredo.

    • mbonzo

      The clavicle is one of the easiest bones to break. You have no idea if he was riding a bike fast. He could have been riding it to rehab from his back injury to help him get those millions of dollars.

      • theyankeewarrior

        You’re right, he could have been riding it slowly, and it could have been a freak accident that was completely uncontrollable. (other than the fact that he should never be on a bike, making it 100% controllable)

        I’ll estimate the percentage of that (and again, I could be way off here) at around 7%.

        My apologies, Alfredo.

        • Chris

          Why shouldn’t he ride a bike?

          • theyankeewarrior

            Because he could fall and break his clavicle and be out for 3-4 months

            • SteveD


            • http://Twitter.com/marcos_aguirre Marcos

              And if he drove a car instead, he could get hit by a drunk driver, who’s half shark, half polar bear, while getting hit by lightning. EVERYTHING in life has risks, especially any form of transportation. I don’t blame him at all (unless, say he were hauling ass on the bike, without a helmet, while drunk and with a passenger, then that might be all him.)

      • theyankeewarrior

        He could be doing countless other things to rehab from a back injury that are less dangerous than riding a bike.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Should baseball players spend their offseason in bubble wrap? What if he were golfing and got run over by a golf cart? Would golfing be stupid for baseball players to do in the offseason? What if he was swimming and Pete Abe cannonballed him and broke his clavicle, would swimming be outlawed? What if he was washing his car and…(oh nevermind, Jeff Kent already tried that one).

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

        What if he was swimming and Pete Abe cannonballed him and broke his clavicle, would swimming be outlawed?

        If he was swimming and PeteAbe cannonballed him, he wouldn’t have a broken clavicle.

        He’d have been killed.

        • Pat D

          Speaking of the ol’ PeteAbe, did anyone see how he became a total shill for John Henry today?

          • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

            He’s become a shill for the Red Sox FO. It’s hilarious.

          • Eric Young

            “Will shill for food…LOTS of food.”

      • Shaun

        If he got run over by a golf cart… he should give up his salary to the yankees for “I’m being a dumbass insurance”

        but the clavicle is such an easy bone to break due to it basically being exposed. Just tripping on a curb and landing wrong can break it.

        • theyankeewarrior

          Tripping and breaking your clavicle while cycling is probably 200x more likely than doing it while running, jogging, playing golf, swimming, or 15,000 other physical activities.

          But that’s just IMO…

          • theyankeewarrior

            And I meant *falling, not *tripping

          • Shaun

            All physical activities carries an increased risk to injury, The point I’m trying to make is that the clavicle is very. easy to break because its so exposed relative to other bones

    • Esteban

      Why is riding a bicycle stupid? Or do you you mean athletes shouldn’t ride bicycles at all?

      • theyankeewarrior

        I would suggest that a pitcher coming off of a back problem may want to get all of his cardio work done on a stationary bike.

        Or on a treadmill. Or in a swimming pool. Or on a track.

        A bike might be the last place I’d suggest him to get work in.

      • theyankeewarrior

        And yes, I mean for a professional athlete (who is not a cyclist)

        Not tryin to be the best at exercisin’

        /Kenny Powers’d

    • theyankeewarrior

      I forgot one.

      BEING IN MEXICO in the year 2010… stupid


    • Rob NY

      You’re right, he should do something non-athletic like… play Guitar Hero so there is a negligible chance of him getting injured. Oh … I guess freak accidents are just freakish.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

    Some people have none of the luck.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm3z_7Dl5b4 (safe)

    • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

      leave it to you to conjure up obscure songs from late 80s/early 90s and make it somehow relevant to the topic at hand.

  • vin

    The Mexican Gangster will ride again…


    • pat

      Love that picture. Only the Mexican Gangster can make playing video games in an arcade while wearing a cardigan look gangster.

  • http://twitter.com//TylerWilkinson T-Dubs

    Aceves = Pavano 3.0
    (Cliff Lee, of course, being Pavano 2.0)

    • mbonzo

      Pavano’s total WAR with the Yankees was 1.1
      Aceves so far is 1.5

    • FIPster Doofus

      Lee = Moose 2.0, but with more rings when all is said and done :)

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

      That’s a horrible insult to the Mexican Vulture-Gangster.

  • Reggie C.

    Is BG the new NJ?

    • Shaun

      no Brett can actually have contact with the air without bursting into flames.

    • http://theyankeeu.com Matt Imbrogno

      In terms of high-on base ability and little power? Yeah, that’s arguable.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

        I think NJ had significantly more power than BG, but I think Reggie C. probably just meant in terms of getting hurt.

    • http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=9370232 Mike HC

      My same thought with the walks, little power, lefty and now the wrist problems. But at least Gardner actually played through it. Johnson does not play.

      • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

        Why are people saying NJ has little power? He’s basically a 3outcome player… he may not be Reggie Jackson, but if he could stay healthy for a season, he could be the 2nd or third best player in the league.

        But that will never happen.

        • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com bexarama

          3-outcome players are like Carlos Pena or Russell Branyan… not NJ, he’s much more balanced than that. Too bad he’s made of… saying he’s made of glass is like an insult to glass o_O

        • http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=9370232 Mike HC

          I guess I should have said little power of late. He has not hit for much power at all since his wrist started to really act up even for the past couple of years.

  • All Star Carl

    Ace needs 6 weeks of rest, then 3 months of full rehab.

    He’ll be back in the middle of May. Most likely June.

    • Chris

      I’m not math whizz, but 6 weeks is mid January. Then 3 months to rehab is mid-April for a return.

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      Hmmm. You might be right. The way I interpreted it was as six weeks of rest as part of the three months of rehab. That would put him back on the mound on March 1. If he needs three months of rehab after six weeks of rest, he won’t be fully rehabbed until mid-April. So maybe we should expect early May for Aceves instead.

  • theyankeewarrior

    For Alfredo’s rehab, I know some mean bike trails in Mexico that he should hit up. I hear cycling is great for healing clavicle, and back injuries.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cecala Joseph Cecala

    I knew this picture was trouble…

    http://riveraveblues.com/wp-co.....a-bike.jpg (safe)

  • http://danielslifka.wordpress.com Jerome S

    So does this mean that we will someday see Gardner again squeak a ball into the OF?

  • Monteroisdinero

    Gardy sliding headfirst also increases the risk of wrist damage. Sliding into first base for one of our few ALCS sparks of life= Gritty

    Next year with good health, better base-stealing and bunting=The Great Brettsky best bargain in baseball. If it had been the other wrist, his throwing and outfield assists would have been greatly decreased. I remember a few balls in the gaps that he may great efforts to get his glove on but couldn’t hold on. Perhaps the wrist was the reason. I love that guy.

    • http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=9370232 Mike HC

      How is he planning on improving if he gets wrist surgery. Seems like he would have to focus more on that than on bunting, sliding etc … Maybe he could watch more tape though.

  • andypettitteisastartingpitcher

    Why did Aaron Boone get cut? Because it specifically says you can’t engage in contact sports off-season? I don’t remember what happened. How long is that list and why doesn’t it include bicycles and why are they allowed to fly planes that could possibly crash into a building on the UES and kill you?