Jul
09

Open Thread: 3,000

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Is this real life? Did that really just happen? This was a movie script, not a baseball game. Derek Jeter wasn’t supposed to turn back the clock and pull a ball into the left field bleachers for his 3,000th career hit. He wasn’t supposed to go 5-for-5 with the game-winning hit. This was vintage Derek Jeter, the guy that dominated the game for a decade and is a certain first-ballot Hall of Famer. The best game of the season? That’s not even a question, this was the best game in the history of the New Yankee Stadium. Congrats to Derek, the greatest Yankee of my generation.

If you haven’t seen it, here’s video of the milestone hit. Un. Be. Leviable. This is why I love being a Yankees fan.

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://twitter.com/stophamm3rtime Dela G

    That was an awesome game. I so wish they had made it a doubleheader for friday ticketholders like myself, but it’s ok, i won’t be too sour.

    Great fun to watch

  • http://twitter.com/stophamm3rtime Dela G

    woah, i thought the A-rod home run off joe nathan in game 2 of the ALDS was the best game in new yankee stadium.

    • Brian S.

      The 15 inning walk off game wants to have a word with you…

      • Kramerica Industries

        What about the George Steinbrenner game against the Rays last year?

        Epicness.

        • first time lawng time

          Game 6 of the 2009 WS. Hello?!

          • http://secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

            And here we have five great choices for an eventual poll on RAB. Well played.

            • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

              2009 ALCS game 2?

              • http://secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

                That game made me want to pull my hair out. It spawned Zen Baseball.

                • Jimmy McNulty

                  The place I was watching that at closed. It was a hotel bar/restaurant and they closed up and just left us there. When Hairston scored the run I jumped up and ran around the place.

            • Brian S.

              What about the last game of the four game sweep against Boston in 2009? The one where Damon and Tex hit back to back home runs to take the lead off of Danyul Bahd.

          • Brian S.

            Too easy.

          • nycsportzfan

            i’m with you, Game 6of the 2009 world series would take the cake for best game in New, New York Yankee stadium, followed by the Jeter 3000game, and then the burnett gem in ws game 2, then the Alex Walk off against the sox in extras..

  • Kramerica Industries

    Not with the slightest intent to be a dick, but I suppose it’s the best game when outside factors are removed.

    Because, by default, the best game with all factors considered occurred in November of 2009.

  • coolerking101

    Watching Jeter today was like taking a trip into a time machine circa 2006. One last hurrah for the Captain. Today we celebrate the man. Tomorrow, we come back to reality.

    • Brian S.

      It’s only been a few games but Jeter has played really well since he came off the DL. I’m hoping he can continue his recent rise in production.

    • Countryclub

      We’d only really have to go back to 2009

    • MikeD

      You weren’t a fan of the .330/130 OPS+ Jeter from just two years back?

  • Your mom

    Only in America……….”America, FUCK YEAH!”

  • first time lawng time

    http://m.espn.go.com/general/s.....ocalId=nyc

    Any truth to this? I thought that the Yabkees wanted the double header but the Rays opted out?

    • Countryclub

      Yanks wanted day/nt doubleheader. Not the old fashioned 2 games in a row doubleheader.

    • http://secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      The truth: The Yankees could have overridden the Rays with a single-admission back-to-back DH.

      The opinion: All of Wallace Matthews’ column. Kei Igawa had nothing to do with the Yanks’ decision last night.

      • CP

        He doesn’t even mention people that had tickets to Friday’s game and didn’t get a shot at seeing history because the game is now in September.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Not a single team in baseball would forfeit the revenue from a home game.

  • TacoGrande

    Days like today are the reason why I will never say anything bad about Derek Jeter. I grew up watching Derek and I have seen his entire career. People can talk about decline all they want, but the fact of the matter is that Derek Jeter can still step up big time and put on a show when it matters most.

    Derek Jeter : Captain Clutch, Mr. November, The Yankee Hit King

  • Kevin G.

    1. DJ3K
    2. 3K-Rod

    • Countryclub

      First half of 2013, assuming no major injuries.

    • Hall and Nokes

      Also will be a home run, but to make it 9-2 in the 8th.

      • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

        Except it will be a 9 run HR with the Yankees down 2-0

  • BigTimeBartolo

    It seems like the Yankees have a few of these magical wins every year. I’m not sure if it’s the best game at the New Yankee Stadium (2009 playoffs come to mind), but it’s easily the best of the year. Games like this is why being a Yankee fan is awesome

  • Jimmy McNulty

    The best game of the season? That’s not even a question, this was the best game in the history of the New Yankee Stadium.

    I dunno about the last part. G2 of the 2009 ALCS was a pretty good one, and you can’t forget G2 or G6 of the 2009 World Series. Winning the World Series the first year at the new digs, Alex Rodriguez finally getting the monkey off his back, “one of for the thumb,” and don’t forget…one last one for the greatest Yankee of our generation: George Steinbrenner. Easily the best Yankee moment since winning the World Series, though.

    I was out pretty late last night and had an all around shit night. I woke up three times before I got up to watch the game, 7,9, and 10 then at 11:30. (central time) I finally decided “fuck it” and figured I may as well watch the game. Jeter got the hit after a lengthy AB in the first inning…thought to myself “awwww shit, now I have to stay up and watch this whole thing.” Obviously I wasn’t going to miss Derek’s 3000th. Luckily for me, Derek must have known I wanted to go back to bed. In his very next AB he hit a HR 13 rows back in the bleachers. Awesome, awesome, aswesome moment.

  • mbonzo

    I was at the game. Best game I’ve ever been to EVER! You couldn’t hear a damn thing over “DE-RICK JEET-UR” and I don’t have a voice left. I still have goosebumps.

  • Frank1979

    Mike you said it best, this was just unbelievable. I was watching the game at a bar with my buddy and we were both in disbelief. Jeter made it look like it was 1999 again out there. It reminded me why I watch everyday. You never know when you’re going to get a game like this, but when it does happen, you feel it as its happening and you recognize its a special moment.

    Lets Go Yankees!

  • Countryclub

    Looking forward to the HBO special.

    • mbonzo

      Saw the camera getting in on the creature roll call. Didn’t see them after that.

  • Mike

    Best game in the history of the new Yankee Stadium? Sorry, but there’s no way a personal milestone beats out clinching a WS title at home. I love Jeter but that’s pretty laughable.

    • mbonzo

      I know that game meant a lot, but it was pretty boring in comparison. That game was over in the 5th.

      • Steve (different one)

        Today was special, I don’t want to take anything away from that. It was a great day and a crazy, excellent game.

        But…still. Game 2 of the 2009 ALDS? Let’s see…game tying 2 run HR in the bottom of the 9th? Check. D-Rob pitches out of bases loaded no outs? Check. Walk off HR? Check.

        Game 2 of the ALCS? Game 2 of the WS?

        A-Rod walkoff in 15 innings…the Daniel Bard massacre…how about Thames walking off against Papelbon?

        IDK, it’s hard to pick, but the Yankees have already had a ton of amazing games in this stadium.

        • BigTimeBartolo

          don’t forget about the walk-off win on the day of the bosses death last year, against the Rays who were competing with us for the division lead no less, that one was pretty awesome too

  • Greg

    I’ll say best regular season game at the new Yankee stadium with the Steinbrenner Memorium Game last year and the extra inning A-Rod walkoff against the Red Sox in 2009.

    That last game was during the series when “the stadium found its voice” I dont remember who said that but it was proper.

  • MikeD

    Just flipped on MLBN to see the Red Sox are playing the O’s. I can’t watch it. Who is the announcer with the horrid Boston accent who basically yells?

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      Jerry Remy?

      • MikeD

        Yeah, just realized it is Remy. He’s wretched. Even if I want to attempt to watch part of a Red Sox game, I turn it off as soon as I hear him speak.

        • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

          I’m kinda curious if they will/have even mentioned Jeter getting 3000…

          • rb

            I was watching for a few minutes awhile ago and they brought it up. It will come up again, because apparently it will be part of a trivia question. (Hint: the answer will be Wade Boggs.)

        • Rookie

          I didn’t know it was Remy. Not sure I would recognize him by voice or sight.

          But I turned the game off after the first Red Sox hitter, Ellsbury, was called safe at first on a close play in which the replay showed him (to my eye) being clearly out and the Boston announcer didn’t even say it was a bang bang play, much less that the ump may have missed the call and he may have been out.

          Whoever the announcer is, that made it clear that he’s too much of a homer for me.

  • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

    I’m gonna get sappy here. Apologies.

    Games like today are why we keep watching baseball. After awful losses, getting eliminated, reading through thousands of trolly, stupid, and overly negative posts/comments that make us all eye-roll, and yeah, the games where Derek grounds out as softly as possible to the second baseman four times – games like today are why we keep watching baseball.

    • The BIG 3

      and overly negative posts/comments that make us all eye-roll

      I object to that statement because there’s less than a handful of “us” who weren’t shitting on the guy daily, starting with Mike A.

      • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

        I wasn’t specifically talking about Derek there, just in general. It’s often been painful to watch but I can’t shit on him. Honestly I can’t shit on any player.

        • The BIG 3

          I’m with you on that.

  • mike c

    damon was tearing up in the postgame interview, dude must really miss being here

    • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

      But it’s his lifelong dream to be a Tiger Ray!

      • Jimmy McNulty

        Oh please, he had a good tenure here and was a formidable foe in that shithole up North. I know I’m not the only one here that still touches themselves to the double steal. He was a fun player to root for and I know I’m not the only one that will give him the h/t when he gets his 3000th.

        • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

          Oh, I love Johnny Damon, I was just poking fun at him.

          Funnily enough, people seem totally divided on him… people were like screaming on Twitter the other day about how you CAAAAN’T like Johnny Damon if you were a fan in 2004. Well I was, and that sucked, but he basically flipped Boston off and then was quite productive for the majority of his time here. That’s about the most anyone could do to help Yankee fans “forgive” them, I suppose.

          • Jimmy McNulty

            Wasn’t he huge in 2009 too? The double steal was a great moment:

            WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU STUTTERING FUCKHEAD!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!

            ***sees that he’s safe***

            OH SHIT FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

            • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

              That was the best but honestly I remember him having kind of a killer 2008. Dunno how true it was (checking BB-Ref, I wouldn’t say it was “killer” but it was good), but he seemed really consistently pretty good in a year that was kind of a bummer sometimes.

    • BigTimeBartolo

      I miss Johnny Damon, I hope he gets 3000 too

  • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

    Best part of the post-game coverage? CNN’s great fail:

    (h/t to Bexy for this one)

    • http://twitter.com/stophamm3rtime Dela G

      hahahahaaha

    • vin

      Haha.

      I should’ve screen capped it, but after Mo blew the game against the Mets last week, the YES ticker headline said the Yanks beat the Mets. Someone had an itchy trigger finger I guess.

      • Kevin G.

        President Dewey would like to have a word with you.

  • tom

    I’ve been a Yankee fan longer than many here have been alive, and have been privileged to partake in many euphoric moments — both the Rightetti and Abbott no-hitters from the stands; the Bucky Dent and Aaron Boone homers on TV like most everyone. The franchise has obviously offered more than its share of “game that made me a fan” memories.

    But even among them, a few stand out because of the sheer “no one would believe it if you wrote it that way”. Today’s trajectory — the turn-back-the-clock 5-for-5, the home run for 3000, the late tie and the clutch game-winner — was just TOO MUCH.

    The other times I’ve felt that way? When Bobby Murcer drove in all five runs for an unthinkable comeback against the Orioles the day of Thurman’s funeral, and when Scott Brosius hit the two-out 9th inning home run off Arizona’s Kim. I know people tend to blend the Brosius and Martinez (and Jeter) home runs all together into one big phantasmagoria, but, while Tino’s homer in Game 4 was a miracle, Brosius’s in exactly the same spot defied belief. Miracles happen in baseball; back to back miracles do not.

    • Griffey’s Grotesquely Swollen Jaw

      Great use of “phantasmagoria”

      and thanks for your perspective.

    • Marcus

      Awesome take. I agree about Brosius too. The way he immediately thrust both his arms in the air as soon as the ball left the bat was awesome. Here you go:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw7StPbkBmU

      You can just see him send his arms in the air on this one.

      • OldYanksFan

        Amazing. I remember now. I couldn’t believe it. 5 minutes after he hit it, I still couldn’t grasp it.

        Truly… that play… in that situation… DEFINES unbelieveable!

    • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

      The Bobby Murcer game was one of the most heroic things I’ve ever seen in sports, and given the context it’s hard to imagine anything beating that.

      The Brosius/Martinez HRs are why 2001’s loss didn’t bother me one bit. I felt like the Yanks were outplayed (mostly outpitched) that entire series, and it took mind boggling heroics to get them back in that series. I know they were so close to winning #4, with Mo on the mound, but I still felt like after those games everything was gravy.

      BTW-Fun fact. Bucky Dent’s HR wasn’t the winning run. It was Reggie’s “meaningless” HR (in the 8th?) that made the difference. Gossage was admittedly shitting his pants, and nearly blew the game.

  • Greg

    Just announced in Pittsburgh that McCutchen was named to the All Star team. He is replacing Ryan Braun.

    • rbizzler

      Justice is served.

  • Steve (different one)

    That game was insane on so many levels:

    1. 5-5 is always noteworthy, no matter who does it or when
    2. The HR had to be the hardest hit of the year for Jeter, why not do it for #3000?
    3. Jeter hadn’t homered in YS in almost a YEAR (7/22/10)…
    4. When Jeter was trying to break the “most hits ever in Yankee Stadium”, he homered for that “record” too….off David Price. I could have missed it if people were talking about it, but I’m surprised that angle hasn’t gotten more play.
    5. Lost in all the hoopla, AJ had 9(!) strikeouts today.

    Just a crazy game all around. Jeter is actually hitting the ball much harder since his return. I don’t want to get sucked in, but a guy can dream…would be great if he turned back the clock for a little while if A-Rod goes out…

    • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

      That earlier homer was the first hit David Price ever gave up too.

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      Actually Jeter hit a single off of Gavin Floyd to become the all-time hits leader in the old Yankee Stadium.

      • Steve (different one)

        Did he tie the record with that HR?

      • Steve (different one)

        You are correct. He tied Gehrig with the HR off Price.

        It’s still pretty wierd.

  • Hall and Nokes

    Can we at least agree that it would have been the best game in Citi Field history, if it were played there?

  • karel capek

    Something else that’s crazy? David Cone looks like Buster Keaton and he wasn’t there at the game. Must be a something special walking on the moon.

    Gatsby believed in the green light, the orgiastic future that year by year recedes before us. It eluded us then, but that’s no matter–tomorrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms farther…. And one fine morning– So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.

    • http://twitter.com/Bismarck1872 Jerome S.

      Look, no one loves Gatsby, Fitzgerald, and the Lost Generation writers more than myself, but this is fucking insane.

  • NC Saint

    I hate to say anything to detract from the richly deserved Jeter love-fest, but come on, Mike. Assuming that you mean “Yankees who played while I was old enough to care” when you say “best Yankee of my generation” you are way off base.

    Mariano fucking Rivera.

    • The BIG 3

      Mariano is the best at his position, not best player. He has a long line of folk in front of him for that “best player” title.

  • mike c

    also, don’t forget nunez’s big double in the 8th… I kind of wish that was the 9th inning so we’d finally see jeter get some pie, but that will have to come another day

  • rbizzler

    Noted Yankee hater Rob Neyer on Jeet:

    http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/7.....shortstops (safe)

    As many have said before, just a great game today. As one of the fans who have had the good fortune to basically follow all of Jeter’s MLB career, I was thrilled for him. Just to remind folks that he is Derek Effing Jeter, he busts out a 5 hit game with a bomb for 3k.

    Right before his historic AB, I thought to myself “It would be awesome if he goes deep just to shut up the haters for a minute,” but quickly changed my mind and thought that a Jeterian single to RF would be fitting.

    • Pat D

      Can’t really argue with Neyer’s conclusions, either. I’m tempted to rank Jeter ahead of Ripken, but…eh, who knows?

      • The BIG 3

        I think that’s a tight race specifically because it’s hard to judge Ripkin’s D in retrospect. I don’t recall his being especially competent, but BRef has him as being better. Jeter was better offensively though. He is a better hitter and better runner.

        • Pat D

          Ripken was a better power hitter, obviously. And, yea, BRef has him 10th all time in Defensive WAR. Jeter, meanwhile, is very much in the negative for that.

    • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

      Which is why I say Derek Jeter is the third-greatest shortstop, and the fifth-greatest Yankee.

      Solid conclusion. We can quibble around the edges, but nothing way off base there.

      • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

        Neyer doesn’t seem to want to include pitchers, but I would put Ford and Mo ahead of Jetes.

  • BigTimeBartolo

    Stupid Orioles, they are going to lose to Boston yet again. They are so freaking bad.

    • BigTimeBartolo

      They are so bad that they haven’t even gotten any runs off Lackey…i’m dissapointed

  • Jimmy McNulty

    For the record, after Craig Biggio’s death march to 3,000 I’m positive that Johnny Damon and just about any guy close to it can get to 3,000. Also, Tim Kurkjian was talking right out of his narrow ass when he said that Robin Yount was better than DJ.

    • Pat D

      It’s hard to argue that because Yount’s career was almost even between shortstop and outfield.

      Yount does rank ahead of Jeter in both fWAR and bWAR. Looking at BRef, they give him 1.7 in defensive WAR for his years at short, whereas Jeter ranks at -13.7 and -8.5 through his age 28 season, which is when Yount stopped playing short.

      Yount averaged 4.4 bWAR through his age 28 season. Excluding his play in 1995, Jeter averaged 5.0 bWAR for the same ages.

      But like I said, Yount can’t really be considered a shortstop, just like Ernie Banks and Alex Rodriguez can not either.

      • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

        I agree. Yount was better, but by a negligible margin.

        • Jimmy McNulty

          Post season gives him the leg up.

          • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

            Bingo. That’s what separates Jeter from the rest. He excellence in the postseason is unparalleled.

        • Pat D

          Yea, and the point is that you can’t really compare them in terms of being shortstops.

          • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

            Definitely not. But I think Kurkjian was just comparing them as players overall.

      • Jimmy McNulty

        Jeter also has an illustrious post season career that has to count for something…he’s had like what? 170 career post season games, shouldn’t they count too?

        • Pat D

          Yea, that plays a part of course. Yount only got to the postseason twice, and played pretty well in both of them, FWIW.

          • Jimmy McNulty

            Yeah, I’m not going to hold it against a guy…but for players who played well in the postseason, surely that has to count into their favor, no?

            • MikeD

              Right. It would be wrong to hold it against a player for not having much postseason, but that doesn’t mean we ignore the accomplishments of a player who has a long postseason resume. Mariano Rivera, for example, is going to make the HOF, and his postseason accomplishments will certainly be taken into account by the voters.

  • sleepykarl

    I swear Nunez is the new Melky. Same kind of skillset and fan following.

    • mike c

      he’s much more valuable as a middle infielder though

    • The BIG 3

      Yeah, perfect.

  • mike c

    also did anybody see what jeter whispered in AJ’s ear when he came up for the 3K hug? I’m pretty sure it was “don’t blow this for me”

  • #24!!!!

    Great day in Yankee history and to be a fan but not just of DJ or the yanks but of baseball. What a feat to accomplish. So proud to be a fan of one of the best baseball players of my generation. This will be a day to remember forever and one that will, without a doubt, always be played as a Yankee classic ;) pretty sure its the only one we’ll be seeing for a loooong time :)

    Seriously, congrats to the Captain.

  • Pat D

    I guess Joey Bats was determined to show those Boston fans what it means to be an MVP.

    Also, how about that Dodgers/Padres game?

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      What can happen when 2 horrible offenses and great pitching staffs go head to head.

  • Deadhorse25

    So the Mets supposedly called the Yankees and offered K-Rod, wonder what they want for him. Maybe Mitre and taking the rest of K-Rod’s contract will get it done

  • Deadhorse25

    So the Mets supposedly called the Yankees and offered K-Rod, wonder what they want for him. Maybe Mitre and taking the rest of K-Rod’s contract will get it done

    • Deadhorse25

      Sorry for double comments, iPhone is acting up

      • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

        I have that problem sometimes too. If it says “Comment publication failed. Please try again” or something like that, don’t listen. The new comment will be there if you refresh the page.

  • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

    Congrats Derek, you gave us a special day I will never forget.

    Now bat 8th where you belong.

  • jay h

    cliff lee hit a home run, wow

    • Pat D

      And it was the Phillies’ only run.

  • Mike

    Best game at the New Yankee stadium? Try the Stienbrenner/Sheppard tribute game.

  • Jeff

    As a 21yr old, I obviously, like so many of you grew up watching Derek play. I work for a catering restaurant and At work today I just happen to be walking by the TV as he came up to the plate. I had no idea what he had done in his first AB but just felt compelled to watch. Right as he swung I said out loud to no-one really “There it is, he did it.” In the middle of loading a catering that was a half hour late the entire restaurant just stopped for a few minutes and watched in awe. Needless to say, I had a smile from ear to ear for the rest of the day. When I got pulled over later in the day the police officer asked me why I was smiling, and that he was considering writing me a speeding ticket I explained it was because I got to watch Jeet’s hit 3000. He smiled and said “ha, I was a Met fan growing up, but Jeter is the only Yankee I ever liked. SLOW DOWN!!!”

    • http://twitter.com/stophamm3rtime Dela G

      thats a cool story