Jul
28

Open Thread: Derek Jeter 3K

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The HBO special DEREK JETER 3K premieres tonight, and that above is the extended trailer. The feature will chronicle Jeter’s entire career and his pursuit of 3,000 career hits, and will feature interviews with teammates, the Steinbrenners, Minka Kelly, Billy Crystal, and plenty of others. You can read more about it here. It will air at 9pm ET tonight on HBO, so set your DVR.

Until that comes on, use this as tonight’s open thread. MLB Network is showing a game tonight, but the teams will depend on where you live. If you’re in or around New York, you’ll likely get to see Carlos Beltran‘s first game as a Giant in Philadelphia. Talk about that or whatever else your heart desires. Have at it.

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

    http://mobile.twitter.com/joel.....9893388288

    Mariners and Phillies scouts?

    • Brooklyn Ed

      Cole Hamels, come on down?

      /wishful thinking

    • Cy Pettitte

      so does Dellin really want to stay or really want to get out? Twitter is blowing up talking about how good he’s been through the first 2 innings.

      • SDM

        He’s from the NY area and grew up a yankee fan….I think he’s trying to show why he shouldn’t be traded.

        • http://twitter.com/SteveH_MandAura Steve H

          He blew up at the end. So I guess he doesn’t want to stay that badly.

  • Kevin G.

    Ochocinco to the Patriots?

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      Oh god, no

      • JobaWockeeZ

        From a Pats or Jets perspective?

        • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

          Neither. But the Patriots are the Red Sox of the NFL. I cant stand them. This is the worst news I’ve heard all day short of Hideki Irabu’s untimely death.

          • Yankeegirl49

            As a Dolphin fan….I agree 100%

            • Oscar Gamble’s Fro

              Pats got Haynesworth too. Likely a very welcomed change of scenery for Haynesworth given that he “doesn’t even like black girls.”

              Pats can have Ocho, I’ll take Santonio every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

              • JobaWockeeZ

                I’m sure everyone would but Tom Brady can make no names look like they have a shred of talent. Ocho is primed for a productive season.

            • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

              as a Colt fan i agree 1000%

            • Brian S.

              As another fellow Dolphin fan…hurry the fuck up Kyle Orton.

    • http://nyyprospectwatch.blogspot.com Bryan L

      Locker room should be interesting this fall.

    • Slugger27

      ochocinco is 2000 and late

      • MannyGeee

        Fck Ochocinco… Outspoken WRs are soooooooo 2003… Give me Branch or Fitzgerald any day of the week, thx…

        • Slugger27

          terrell owens once held out of a 7 yr deal NINE MONTHS after signing the contract for it

          think about that.

          • MannyGeee

            No néed to think about it. We’re on the same page…

    • bonestock94

      lol I hope this ends up being as big of a disaster as it sounds like it will be. As if the Patriots weren’t big enough douchebags already.

  • Tint

    RIP Hideki Irabu :( Suicide.

  • Jack Merridew

    Next season when asked if they would like to participate in Showtime’s The Franchise, the Steinbrenners and Girardi should say absolutely. We’ve got characters the public would be interested in and it would garner the highest ratings for the show. We’d get to see Joe look through his book and Mike Harkey coach Mo in the pen.

    • Phife Dawg

      I would highly doubt the Steinbrenners would sign up to do a show like that, although it would be interesting to see how the players on the team interact on and off the field. A team with a lot of personalities such like the Yanks would be perfect for tv.

  • http://nyyprospectwatch.blogspot.com Bryan L

    Plans got broken for 2nd night in a row. Joy.

  • #24!!!!

    Of all of the things I decide to cut back on HBO had to be that thing. I hate the economy!

  • Monteroisdinero

    Montero throws out runner at 2B trying to steal in 1st inning tonight.

    It can happen!

    • Brian S.

      But how was his footwork on the play?

  • steven

    i had a dream last night that montero was batting 5th and went 3 for 4 with 6 rbi’s ahh i guess we can only dream

    • mbonzo

      Not for the Yankees.

      • steven

        nope it was for the yankees

        • MannyGeee

          Those pinstripes you saw were for the Alt Unis from the Astros… Good news is that we had the inside track for Wandy Rodriguez…

          Yay?

  • Monteroisdinero

    Sox lose. Thuuuhhhhhhh Sox lose!

    How to make a day without a game as enjoyable as possible.

    • tom

      So they go 2-2 in Fenway against the all-powerful Royals.

      Why is it so many people here seem so convinced they’re the ’27 Yankees?

      • Monteroisdinero

        Grit. And speaking of grit and the usual Cano-Pedroia discussions, does anyone else find it annoying that Robbie does not dive for ground balls in the hole-in either direction? So many hits are “just pastareaching Cano”….

        • MannyGeee

          Nt as annoying as the fact that the is so good and so fast, yet Pedroia seems to be laid out on obis belly for every damn play… Kinda over that.

      • http://twitter.com/Carlosologist_7 Carlosologist

        Have you seen their stretch of play over the last month? Their offense has been pretty damn remarkable. Pedroia and Ellsbury are playing great offensively, easily carrying them right now.

        Now, they’re due for a cold stretch, seeing as they’re not this good. Let’s hope that happens when we’re in town in two weeks.

      • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

        I think I said this yesterday, but it seems like they score 15 runs every damn day. That said, they’re not even three games up on the Yankees.

      • Slugger27

        tom, the grass is always greener on the other side. always. no questions asked.

        i guarantee if this blog was around in ’98, people wouldve been saying we need to acquire a solid, middle of the order LFer, or we would be doomed in the playoffs.

        nothing is ever good enough. its just how it is.

        • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

          Andy Pettitte has regressed so much he’s useless

      • Brian S.

        Because their offense is ridiculous and I hate it. San Diego can get bent for trading them Gonzalez.

        • Accent Shallow

          Concur.

          Casey Kelly.

          What a fucking giveaway.

        • MannyGeee

          San Diego already got bent trading him for Casey Fucking Kelly…

  • Kramerica Industries

    Simple poll question: Who takes the AL West?

    And to further that, the team that finishes in second in the West, will they make a run at the team that finishes in second in the East?

    Fill in the blanks and answer as you may.

    • mbonzo

      Rangers, and the Wild Card team comes from the East. Give the Angels at least a year before their young hitters start actually producing.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Rangers and yes they have a chance of making things interesting.

    • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

      Rangers. They might make it… kinda interesting I guess but it’ll be the second place AL East team in the end.

    • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

      I like the Angels. They got Weaver and Haren 1-2, and now with Santana they got a great number three. that kid has a lot of potential. but since hes been in the league for awhile now he may be a bit of an underachiever. But, he did make the ’08 all star team so you know that he’s got it and he’s had good numbers this season. Also, Vernon Wells is starting to find his stroke and they still have Aybar, Abreu, and Hunter to go along with youngsters trumbo and congar. they have a great bullpen with downs and walden at the back end although walden has 6 blown saves. we’ll see but i like the angels chances the most.

      As for the second place team. that will obviously be the Rangers, and no they will not make a run at the second team in the east. the wild card will come out of the east and hopefully that will be boston with the yanks winning the division.

  • Avi

    Keith Law on Mason Williams today:
    Jared (NJ)

    Keith, Mason Williams has really impressed me this year. I know you said that you think he will fill out so my question is if he does, what type of player can he be
    Klaw (12:36 PM)

    Talked to another scout who saw that club last week – he loved Williams too, raved about Gumbs’ bat speed although it’s his only real tool, and was down on Culver (mostly his LH swing). I think Williams has a chance to be … actually, the player I think Colby Rasmus will be. Hits for average, runs well, plays good D in CF, hits maybe 20-25 HR.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Didn’t think his power ceiling was that high.

      • Avi

        Yeah me either. I wouldn’t be suprised if Mason is rated as the Yanks’ #4 prospect this winter, behind only Montero (if he’s still eligible), Banuelos and Betances and ahead of Sanchez, Romine etc.

    • mbonzo

      Stupid Culver and his terrible LH swing. He only hit 2 homeruns from the left side last night. I despise KLaw.

    • Avi

      Klaw on Bichette:
      Anthony (NYC)

      I know it’s GCL, but Bichette Jr has been excellent (including great plate discipline) – are those #s somewhat meaningless?
      Klaw (12:17 PM)

      Totally meaningless. With most quality draftees not signing until August 15th, the caliber of play in the two complex leagues is atrocious right now. Bichette probably feels like he’s still playing HS ball.

      On Jodan Cote and Jake Cave (two 2011 dratees):
      Anthony (NYC)

      What are your thoughts on Cote and Cave – 2 potential NYY signees?
      Klaw (12:40 PM)

      I like Cote more – and I hear they’re very close to a deal with him. Better projection, very raw.

      On Gary Sanchez:
      Betzalel (Williamsburg)

      I haven’t heard anything about Gary Sanchez in awhile and noticed he’s out of your top 50 – what gives?
      Klaw (12:55 PM)

      Suspended twice for attitude issues and awful on defense this year according to multiple scouts. He wasn’t in my preseason top 50 either, though, so he would have had to improve to get into it.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        So in before KLaw bitching.

    • Avi

      “raved about Gumbs’ bat speed although it’s his only real tool”

      If you’re a postion player with just one tool that’s the one to have. So if he turns into an average defense left fielder who could rake.. where do I sign?

  • JobaWockeeZ

    http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/.....nopaging=1

    Kuroda’s apparently off the market. Fuck this trade market.

    • Monteroisdinero

      Desmond Jennings sparks a 10-8 TB win today. If Desmond can do it with the bat so can our guy at SWB.

    • Avi

      Doesn’t really say Kuroda is off the market..

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      I’d rather have Ubaldo anyway. As long as it’s for the right price.

      • Avi

        I’d rather have Kuroda – considering the price.
        I don’t know how anyone can make the argument that Ubaldo is better than Kuroda, Montero, Betances and Banuelos.

        • Avi

          Kuroda and just Montero >>>>>> Ubaldo

          • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

            I hope Cashman can pull off a ninja move and pry Ubaldo with a package along the lines of Betances, Romine, Noesi, and CoJo. That’s never happening though. There’s no way we get Jimenez without giving up either Montero or Banuelos.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Doesn’t seem like any side is budging.

    • Slugger27

      i think twitter, ironically, is hurting the quality of MLBTR (even if the pageviews are soaring). it just seems like every player has a series of bullet points that reads:

      -teams a, b, and c are targeting player x aggressively
      -team d is asking a ton for player x
      -teams a b and c arent confident they can get player x
      -player x wouldnt mind playing for teams a b and c
      -talks are on going for teams a b and c for player x
      -the talks are dead regarding player x
      -talks back on for player x, a new team z has entered and are heavily involved

      i dont know if its a too many cooks in the kitchen thing or whatever, but i just found MLBTR to me a less enjoyable site than in years past because of 85 diff guys tweeting 85 diff things. take the pence talks for example. theres literally tweets stating polar opposite things within like an hour of each other.

      i just feel with everyone constantly contradicting each other, the whole thing has gotten so watered down that any non-official transaction update has lost all meaning

      • Slugger27

        thats not coming down on mike or tim or anyone else that writes for that site. its a great site, they do a fantastic job of collecting all the info into on easy to read place.

        my criticism isnt with the site or how its run, im just stating the obvious frustrations with following it during the trade deadline.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        I wouldn’t fault MLBTR but rather the journalism view of report first, truth later in regards to Twitter. But yes I agree it’s frustrating to see one bullet point say Ubaldo is being close to traded then an hour later Ubaldo is going nowhere.

        • Slugger27

          im not faulting MLBTR, they do a great job covering whats being tweeted. its just the reports are so contradicting that its made MLBTR updates meaningless. its all just a little comical, if not frustrating/disappointing.

          the dodgers want a big piece for kuroda, the dodgers are not actively shopping kuroda. the phillies have given up on pence, the phillies are pursuing pence aggressively. giants expected to release pat burrell, the giants are not relasing pat burrell.

          i cant tell if its hilarious or annoying. one could have followed the hot stove updates all day, and they would still have zero takeaway knowledge about virtually any trade candidate.

        • MannyGeee

          Agreed. Every swinging dick has a Twitter account today, which makes it easier for them to put their thoughts (and ALOT of opinions, albeit shitty ones) out there. They have really put the ‘Rumors’ into the site with the evolution of Twitter in the sports media realm.

          That said, I still find myself reading MLBTR about 29 times a day this week…. So we feed
          The machine…

  • Uke

    This KLAW hate is getting to be sad, he’s not really stating his opinion so much as he is letting us know what scouts he has spoken to have said about yankee prospects, he had good things to say about Williams, and he’s not saying anything that isn’t true about the others.

    • http://www.youcantpredictbaseball.com bexarama

      and even if he was stating his opinion, it’s an opinion. He’s allowed to have it. I don’t find him consistently anti-Yankee. He’s snarky and can be kind of rude with very little or no provocation but he’s a really smart guy who knows what he’s talking about, in general.

      • Avi

        I agree with Bexy.

      • mbonzo

        He’s definitely not anti-Yankees, but he is a pessimist and once he gets the idea that a player is bad in his head, he really never changes his mind. I just can’t read his stuff or reports, I agree with everything you have to say except that he knows what he’s talking about. Seems that most of reports come from other scouts, and he goes by their word as if they were his own sometimes. Kinda like the guy who only likes movies that get good reviews.

      • Slugger27

        i think everyone respects his intelligence, but like dave cameron, he’s not well-liked by a lot of people because of unnecessary smugness, perceived stubbornness, and a general arrogance in his writing style.

        if hes wrong about a prospect, he doesnt say it, and if hes right, its “i told you so” in a snarky tone. of course hes a smart guy, but if cuts corners and takes shortcuts just like everyone else. he spun his team prospect review by calling melky the “centerpiece” in the javy trade and arodys a “scrap heap” guy that the yanks threw in. he knew it was wrong, but it fit his narrative, so he printed it.

        this blog may be more down on him than it should be, but in my opinion, most of his criticism is warranted.

      • Jimmy McNulty

        He’s Anti-Yankee to the extent that it gets him clicks. It’s all about the Benjamins baby.

  • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

    Dellin Betances so far
    4 IP, 0 runs, 3 K’s, 1 hit, ZERO BBs.

    • Cy Pettitte

      39 pitches, 28 strikes. so awesome.

  • Jared

    Whoa, looks like Joba had an appendectomy (source is his twitter).

  • Zach

    In the recent past, Cash has been able to get someone that’s known, but a little under the radar. My bet would be that ATL makes an offer CHIW has to take for Quentin, and as a result, the blowup is obvious and Kenny trades a SP to the Yankees.

    • Brian S.

      Cashman better hook it up with the Dank(s).

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Wouldn’t count on it.

        • Brian S.

          I’m not. But he has one of the best names in baseball.

    • http://twitter.com/SteveH_MandAura Steve H

      It’s been eerily quiet on Liriano.

  • SDM

    Vizcaino was just promoted to AAA,I blame Javy for taking him away.

    (not really, it was a fair trade at the time….I think)

    • bonestock94

      Man that one bums me out. It seemed great at the time given the season Vasquez was coming off of and trying to chase the repeat.

  • Cy Pettitte

    so much for Dellin’s big night

  • SDM

    The wheels came off in the 6th for Betances, 4 groundball singles (I blame the defense, if your a pitcher and gets grounders the guys behind you should be able to field it) a walk and one line drive.

    • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

      two infield singles as well. but it was at least nice for him to cruise through five. he’ll learn from this start. at least Manny had a good start last night.

      • SDM

        Personally I feel this was still a good start, he wasn’t hit hard and basically all the hits save one was in the air. An MLB level defense could probably convert most of those to outs.

        • JohnnyC

          That’s a knock on Doug Bernier.

  • Mark

    The San Diego chicken is at the Scranton/WB game. Lots of good fun if you have the MiLB subscription.

  • mbonzo

    Is anyone else having trouble rendering the page tonight? Was working fine this afternoon. I’m using Opera, it might be a browser specific problem. The side bars are appearing below the comments.

    • http://twitter.com/SteveH_MandAura Steve H

      Me too, on Firefox.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/Paddock9652 Stratman9652

        Same here, also firefox.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Yeah I have no idea what the hell is going on. Ben’s going to look at it once he has time later tonight.

    • Slugger27

      im using IE and am having the same problem.

    • bonestock94

      Same on chrome

  • Sheepmeister

    Out of curiosity, why on earth are the nationals buying out 16.5 games?

    • SDM

      a hope and a prayer that hell freezes over, pigs fly, and that they suddenly go on a tear the likes of which no one has ever experienced.

  • Official Member of the Bartolo Colon Fan Club

    it seems that dellin often starts strong and blows up towards the end.

    i hate to say this, but might it be a good idea to move him to the bullpen eventually? he could focus on his two dynamite pitches, fastball and curveball, and just blow people away for an inning or two.

    i know how it worked out with joba and phil, but does it make sense?

    • SDM

      none of the hits are hard and most are on the ground, thats what you want from a starter…whether or not a defense can convert those grounders is another matter.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      Rather have him fail as a starter first

  • karel capek

    I think there should be a plaque of Buster Keaton in monument park.

    • JohnnyC

      Why? Was he orginally from Colorado?

  • mbonzo

    Great documentary.

    • http://johnsterling.blogspot.com/ Xstar7

      seconded

  • Jack Merridew

    Very well done, HBO. I’m glad Jeter agreed to do this because it was good to see the interactions behind the scenes with his friends, family, and teammates. I’ll probably watch it again this weekend.

    • The Big City of Dreams

      Yankees need to do more stuff like that it was great

  • Karl Krawfid

    Minka Kelly is dumb.

    Great doc though.

  • Tom Zig

    Is the Derek Jeter HBO special just a one hour documentary or is it like a series?

  • nick

    anyone got a link to watch a replay online for us college kids w/o HBO?? It would be much appreciated.

  • Mike HC

    As expected, that was a great documentary. So much under the radar good stuff in there, along with the obvious 3,000 hits stuff.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    If Nnamdi is going to the Jets all I can say is I hope the Patriots fucking kick their asses. It pains me to say that but I really hate the Jets.