Oct
11

Press Conference Roundup: CC, Hughes, A-Rod, Teixeira, Posada, More

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Joe Girardi held his annual end-of-season press conference at Yankee Stadium this afternoon, and unlike last year, there wasn’t any significant news to be broken. No coaches were fired, no secret injuries were unveiled, no talk about contracts for legacy players. The overwhelming theme was the idea of “clutch” and “clutch players,” just every other question was about that (seriously). I thought Girardi handled that well, saying that a lot of times it’s a function of luck, especially in a short series when things don’t have a chance to even out.

Anyway, the press conference was broadcast on YES, and had I know sooner, I probably would have live-blogged it. That’s my bad. Here’s a recap of the important stuff…

Starting Rotation

  • “He’s extremely important to our rotation, we rely on him heavily,” said Girardi when asked about CC Sabathia‘s opt-out clause. “I can’t imagine what it would be like without him. I don’t want to imagine what it would be like without him.” Girardi did acknowledge that Sabathia gained a few pounds during the course of the season, but he didn’t think it affected his performance.
  • On A.J. Burnett: “He’s a work in progress … lost a mile or two [off his fastball] … the adjust he made from August to September really helped him. I think we can count on him, and we’re going to need him.”
  • On Phil Hughes: “We consider him a starter, we do, but he’s got to get back to the form he had in 2010 to continue to stay in our rotation. He’s gotta stay healthy, that’s the other thing.” When asked about Hughes’ conditioning, Girardi said the right-hander is “in shape to do the job” and is happy with everyone’s work ethic.
  • “I would assume that they would both be part of our rotation,” said Girardi, referring to Hughes and Ivan Nova. “Nothing in life is every given to you, you have to earn it.”
  • On rotation depth: “[Hector Noesi]‘s a guy that can start to challenge [for a starting spot].” Girardi mentioned D.J. Mitchell, David Phelps, Adam Warren, Manny Banuelos, and Dellin Betances by name as players that could push for a rotation spot at some point next year, but Noesi was the first one out of his mouth.
  • “The one need we’re going to have to address again is our rotation,” added the skipper. “It starts with CC, go from there.” When asked about adding a high-end starter even if Sabathia returns, Girardi replied: “That’s something that I’m sure we’ll look at doing.”

The Lineup

  • Girardi said all possibilities will be considered with the lineup, including Brett Gardner at leadoff. “Are you going to add? If we add someone, how do they fit in the lineup?” The batting order is something they’ll address in Spring Training.
  • “[Alex Rodriguez] is someone we need to keep healthy, first and foremost,” said the skipper. “If he plays 145-150 games, I think he’ll be much more productive.” The meniscus tear and sprained thumb were freak injuries more than anything, and Girardi said A-Rod was not more hurt than he led on down the stretch. “My expectation is he’ll be our third baseman, he might DH a little bit.”
  • On Mark Teixeira: “Some of it is luck. I think he made more contact this year than he did in the past.  Using the whole field will become important … so they can’t shift. He made a small adjustment on his openness to cut down on [balls hit into the shift] … I think he can give us more than that … I believe all of our guys can give us more. Tex, I don’t believe he’s a .240 hitter, no I don’t believe that.”
  • “Our guys will try to make adjustments to get their numbers back to where they’re used to having them,” added Girardi when asked about players who had down years.
  • On Jesus Montero: “It’s something that we will look at in Spring Training, heavily. I can’t tell you exactly what the makeup of our team will be behind the plate. Montero’s a guy that can probably do a lot of different things, DH some, catch some, gotta see the makeup of our team. I was very pleased with his at-bats in the month of September. Lot of upside there.”
  • “We expect him to have another good year and be productive for us,” said Girardi when asked about Derek Jeter. “When you’re an older player, people are always going to wonder.”
  • When asked about being too dependent on homers: “I think our offense became a little more diversified this year with the speed we had. [The homers are] part of who were are, part of the age we live in … from a speed standpoint, we can do a lot more things, we can do a lot more things this year than in years previous.”

Miscellaneous

  • “I can’t tell you exactly what’s going to happen with [Jorge Posada], but whenever you do say goodbye to someone, it’s difficult,” said Girardi. “When a player leaves a new player comes in, and I’m not saying that’s going to happen … if this is it, we’re going to miss him. There’s no doubt about it, we’re going to miss the intensity he brings.”
  • On the coaching staff: “The first guy that has to get done is Brian Cashman. I’m happy with my coaches, but that’s something I’ll talk about with Brian when the time comes.” Doesn’t seem like there will be any changes here.
  • On players pressing, in general: “I think you can do things to try and help players, but part of it has to come from within, part of it has to come from experience. It’s something we continually work on from a physical and mental standpoint.”
  • “Add a corner [infield] guy? Possibly. I’m sure we’ll look at that,” said Girardi, who expressed confidence in Eduardo Nunez being able to fill in all around the infield. “[Nunez] might even play more positions next year.”
  • Girardi joked that he could have “batted Gardy fourth and stacked my lefties” because Gardner was hitting so well in the postseason. The primary reason they used the same lineup in each game of the ALDS was that they faced four right-handed starters. If they faced a lefty, Girardi said the lineup would have looked very different.
  • “We didn’t reach out goal, that’s the bottom line,” said Girardi when asked if the season was a failure. “Bottom line is we didn’t get it done, and it starts with me.”
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  • Paul VuvuZuvella (formerly Nuke LaDoosh)

    I assume Noesi would be on an innings limit next year, if he cracks the rotation out of Spring Training. Might work out ok if one of the Killer B’s is ready for primetime in August when Noesi could shift to the ‘pen to manage his total workload. Still a rotation of CC, Nova, Hughes, AJ and Noesi is unlikely to me. Would guess Freddy is in the 5-hole and Noesi is in the bullpen again (and is SP depth.) Still, We need Yu!

    • AndrewYF

      Nah, Noesi’s all set. Going to be 25 in January, and already pitched a full state of 160 innings in 2010. This was his ‘welcome to the big leagues, no pressure’ year. Just like Nova, if he proves himself down the stretch in 2012, he’ll be used no limitations required.

      I certainly hope that the Yankees have learned their lesson about managing innings limits in the major leagues. Do it like the Rays – make sure your starters are overripe when they come to the big league stage. I highly doubt we see Banuelos in a significant capacity next season. Betances as well. Their time to shine is 2013.

      • Adam B.

        I would like to see BETANCES get a shot at a rotation spot out of spring training… They should NOT hand him one, but given his age I think they should give him a look and see how his command is in spring training.

    • http://fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

      Be honest. Did my post from earlier today inspire this name change?

  • Monteroisdinero

    “Once Jesus learns how to sac bunt, he should be fine. These great hitters need to learn my approach to first and second no outs.”

    • jay h

      but no mention of using the safety squeeze with the bases loaded more. He needs to be fired.
      /Mike Smith

  • Don W

    Can’t imagine a situation where the Yankees bring Garcia back with the opportunity to garner a supplemental pick for him. He’s easily replaceable.

    • Anchen

      Can think of a scenario that happens…He accepts arbitration. Have to offer it to get the pick. He may want a multi year deal though obviously, but it is a possible scenario.

  • UYF1950

    Just a couple of comments. First, a rotation of CC, Nova, AJ, Hughes and either Noesi or Garcia isn’t going to get the job done. At least not come the post season if the Yankees are fortunate enough to make it that far in 2012. They need to make a splash and invigorate the fans maybe not to the extent of 2009 but something. Second, anyone looking at Tex’s splits has to notice that his lefty/righty splits trend in each of the last 4 years is not a good sign. If it continues perhaps maybe someone might suggest he only bats righty. Because his numbers batting lefty would get any other player benched. Lastly they need to do something about leaving so many men on base in scoring position. Whether it’s playing more small ball or what. That I think in many ways is what killed the Yankees this past year, even during the ALDS. Those are just my opinions.

    • Ryan

      I disagree.

      • UYF1950

        Ryan, not to sound combative. But am I to assume you disagree with everything I said.
        1) That CC, Nova, AJ, Hughes and either Noesi or Garcia can’t get the job done.
        2) The Tex’s lefty/righty splits are terrible. Because his numbers batting lefty are terrible.
        3) The Yankees need to make a splash? Because I was referring to the starting rotation. Because anyone that thinks that any 3 of the 4 (AJ, Hughes, Noesi or Garcia) is going to lead the Yankees to the promised land is kidding themselves.
        4) About the Yankees leaving to many men on with runners in scoring position. Because if you look at the numbers with RISP with 2 outs. Martin batted .208, Swisher .118, Tex .241, A-Rod .194 and even Granderson .208. Those are the meat and potatoes of the Yankees line up. Cano was the only batter in the Yankee line up 2 through 7 that had a respectable average with RISP and 2 outs.
        One batter you can understand even 2 batters but when 5 of the 6 batters the team relies on to score and drive in runs in those situations have those types of numbers that’s unacceptable in my opinion. And those players and coaches need to work on reversing that trend.

        • Adam B.

          nobody is automatic with RISP, sometimes players just don’t get it done and that does not mean that they suck, mentally weak, unclutchy, or can’t be great yankees. Every player that has had great postseason success has also had great postseason failure. PAPI is a perfect example, he has hit some of the most iconic postseason homers of all time and was great all year for the sux but he was 0-2 with RISP in their legendary game 162 loss to the O’s.

          You cannot base the skill level of a ballplayer on 5 games.

          • UYF1950

            Adam, I was referring to the regular season more so then any post season numbers. In fact the BA’s I quoted above were for the regular season. And I do think over the course of 100 plus games they do shed some light on the Yankees struggles with RISP/2outs that did continue into the ALDS.

            • Adam B.

              Fair enough, read over that a little too quickly…

              Career #’s W/ RISP…

              AROD- .300/.401/.542

              Granderson- .254/.338/.477

              Swisher- .246/.411/.435

              Martin- .266/.388/.390

              TEX- .305/.431/.583

              As you cam see, all of those numbers are relativelty close to their career averages with or without RISP… just because they struggles THIS YEAR, it does not mean they flat out suck with RISP.

              • UYF1950

                Adam, I think look looking at career numbers can be a little misleading. For example is A-Rod going to perform at 37 or 38 the same as he did on average through say 34 probably not. And look at Tex his number have been in steady decline since joining the Yankees what would give you any confidence that he could go back to pre 2009 numbers. And Martin’s numbers are disproportionately effected by his 2008 and earlier numbers. I think it’s far more likely that their more recent performance is reflective of what to anticipate going forward then looking at “their career” numbers.
                Besides I wasn’t saying they “sucked” only that something needed to be done to address how many runners the Yankees were leaving in scoring position.

    • Jetrer

      “Because his numbers batting lefty would get any other player benched”

      Tex vs. RHP this season: .773 OPS/ .337 wOBA, 108 wRC+ (all above league average, definitely not bad enough to get benched, dropped in the lineup vs. RHP yes, but not even close to benched)

  • UncleArgyle

    Girardi joked that he could have “batted Gardy fourth and stacked my lefties” because Gardner was hitting so well in the postseason.

    Oh how hillarious. But instead of moving the hot hitter to up in the lineup, you left him 9th. And instead of moving a completely ice cold hitter (Nick Swisher) down in the line up, he left him at 6. Wouldn’t ya know, Swisher comes up with the bases loaded in an elimination game, fails, and the seasons over.

    • Don W

      Wow! Lineup decisions based on who’s hot or not during a 5 game series? You do know by moving someone down in the lineup it does not eliminate the chance that they will come to bat in a critical situation right?!?!?

      • UncleArgyle

        Oh I didn’t know that, thanks for that Branch Ricky. In baseball, typically you want your best hitters to get more at bats than your weaker hitters, especially in a win or go home elimination game. Ergo, Batting the Red Hot Brett Gardner before the Ice Cold Nick Swisher. Snark aside, my point is that I don’t think its a joking matter that you leave your hottest hitter 9th and your coldest hitters 4,5,6. Would it have made the difference in game 5? Who knows, maybe not. But it was at least something to consider, and it appears it was completely dismissed as a possible stratagem for a game 5.

        • Eduardo (My Left Nunez)

          At what point during the five games do you decide he’s your hottest hitter? One game? Two games? Does Girardi start bouncing around his lineup based on the performance of a few games? OMG, player A just got two hits, while player B just went 0-4, so I’ll flip them in the lineup. My #2 is now my #8, my #6 is now my #4, my #5 is now my #9, and then do that again for game 3, and we’ll do it again for game 4.

          Gardner for the last five games of the season hit .200. For the last eleven games he hit .219, which is exactly what he hit for the entire month of September,.219. Hot he was not. Yet it wasn’t just September he was cold. As I’m sure we all rememember, he was frigid through April, hitting .188 for the month. Then he got hot from May through mid July, putting up a triple slash of something like .320/.420/.430. From that point forward, covering nearly two-and-a-half months, Gardner tripled slashed along at roughly .217/.310/.320. Horrible. Yet during that long, long cold stretch, he’d have a few games in a row when he hit well, only to go cold again.

          Yes, over the course of a 162-game season it’s ideal to get more PAs for the better hitters. Trying to determine who is going to be the hottest hitter over five games and then rebuilding the lineup to it will lead to much fail. Brett Gardner has not shown himself to be one of those better hitters. Just the opposite; he’s one of the weaker hitters, and one who is hard to peg because of his streakiness. I do like Gardner because he provides additional value by driving up pitch counts, his speed on the bases, and the great value by what he provides with his glove. I’m not, however, rebuilding my lineup around him. He’s a cog in the machine.

          Yeah, it’s really easy after the fact to make those determinations. Anything can happen in a short series as evidenced by the Yankees scoring more runs and having a lower ERA (well I guess they would go together) than the Tigers, but losing the series. Small sample size create issues like that which even out over 162 games. And you never want your favorite team coming down to a winner-take-all game because than anything really can happen, like them stranding eleven runners on base. The next time they have eleven on, they might drive in eight.

          It’s baseball. Leave the lineup machinations behind.

          • UncleArgyle

            Sigh. I wish Jim Leyland shared your opinion that riding the hot hand is a silly idea in an elimination game. If he had, then Don Kelly’s not batting 2nd and he’s not taking Nova deep in the first inning.

          • gc

            Well said.

          • UncleArgyle

            I also have to add that i find it a bit comical that with all the stats you mention you forgot to include the 7-17 with a .943 OPS that Gardner put up in the series. Well, maybe you left that out because your point seems to be that those numbers should be ignored, because after all, he wasn’t this hot in September.

            • Don W

              You’re the guy with the Bozo shoes on and you’re calling him comical? A decent chunk of that OPS was generated in game 5. Was Girardi supposed to know that ahead of time. Garner’s numbers in 5 games are random chance. That’s why things like Posada batting .429, A-Rod hitting .111 and Tex hitting .167 happen. Odds are any individual game Swish will out perform Gardner at the plate.

    • Tampa Yankee

      Yup because Gardner’s F5 in foul territory in the 4th w/ bases loaded and 2 outs doesn’t count right?

      • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

        SSS

        /RAB’d

      • Don W

        If there had only been 1 out Garner would have tripled cause he was hot!

        • UncleArgyle

          WTF are you talking about? Seriously, how do you arrive at the conclusion that Brett Gardner would triple if there had been one out. Or is this just your attempt at being a douche? If so, you’re nailing it.

          • Don W

            So you don’t understand baseball or sarcasm.

  • Nemesis

    It’s pretty obvious that Girardi has no faith in Montero as a catcher from his responses to questions..

    • Paul VuvuZuvella (formerly Nuke LaDoosh)

      I read that he has limited faith for about 25-30 games at Catcher, and probably only when CC or Hughes pitch so he’s not dealing with high numbers of pitches in the dirt.

  • chaz

    If Texas looks to unload Michael Young, Yanks should grab him. Would be great for them– 140 games at DH/3B/SS/1b and maybe some corner outfield.

    • http://www.twitter.com/brandonholley B-Rando

      3B- ARod
      1B- Tex
      SS- Jeter
      Utility- Nunez
      DH- Montero + ARod/Tex/Jeter

      Where exactly would he fit in??

      • Adam B.

        agreed, this team has plenty of offense.

  • Bronx Byte

    Without mentioning names, the team needs to be more clutch with RISP.
    It was a problem for much of 2011 in not pushing runners across.
    Not many walkoff wins.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Walk-off wins aren’t a measure of anything. You may want them to be, but they aren’t. All they tell you is that a team was losing heading into the ninth inning a bunch of times.

      • http://www.twitter.com/brandonholley B-Rando

        Just to be fair, it could also mean you win a lot of the extra-inning games you play at home.

    • CP

      2011 Yankees overall: .263/.343/.444/.788
      2011 Yankees w/ RISP: .273/.361/.455/.816

      Hitting with RISP was not a problem. They just got unlucky in a few key situations in the ALDS.

      • Mike K

        Facts always ruin a good rant. And what are blogs for if not a good rant?

      • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

        It seemed like every time there was a RISP situation, ARod, Tex or Swisher was up. Granted that’s 1/3 of the batting order. But that was one ice cold 1/3.

        • CP

          If you’re referring to the ALDS, then you’re (basically) right. They didn’t come through with RISP in games 2, 3 or 5. They did in games 1 and 4.

          People will then point out that games 1 and 4 were blowouts and 2, 3, and 5 were close games.

          I will then point out that a couple of hits with RISP in games 2, 3, and 5 would have made them blowout wins for the Yankees.

          The problem is trying to suggest that because they struggled in those situations in the ALDS this year then they will also struggle next year.

    • Ryan

      Yes. They should walk on those “clutch drills.”

  • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

    Wouldn’t be surprised at all if the rotation looked like this come opening day:

    1.Sabathia
    2.Nova
    3.Hughes
    4.Burnett
    5.Noesi

    Is that the rotation I want to see? No. I want to see C.J Wilson in there, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Wilson stayed in Texas and Yu Darvish went to a different team, say the Blue Jays.

    Or he could go to the Mariners and be friends with Ichiro.

    /Kay’d

    • jon

      there is no way the yankees go into the season with all those question marks behind CC

      • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

        Just like there was no way they wouldn’t have Lee or Pettitte going into this year, right?

        • radnom

          Yeah, and they got really fucking lucky with Garcia and Colon. Doesn’t mean its something you want to do every year.

          • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

            I wouldn’t say doing it two years in a row should be called every year, but ok.

            • Jorge (needs a new name)

              I’d rather have what you’re saying than a bad contract messing things up in the name of change.

    • Adam B.

      dude CJ WILSON has bad contract written all over it. I go no higher than 4/60 for him.

      • AJWillWin

        Then you don’t get CJ Wilson.

        • Adam B.

          I’ll take my chances with that. I said the same thing about LEE last year. I’d rather spend it on Darvish… but that’s just me…

      • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

        It’ll take at least five years to get him.

      • Hardy

        At some point you have to decide what is more important to you – avoiding “bad contracts” or winning the maximum number of games and championships?

        • Anchen

          Yeah. Like Burnett. He contributed quite heavily to our 2009 championship. How does it look now though? Was it worth it? I guess we’ll see. Ultimately winning a championship beats being in the post season a buncha times and not winning any but it does come at a cost. I feel CJ Wilson has the potential to be similar to Lackey and Burnett. In his early 30s, coming off pretty good years. Has had some control issues although better this year.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cecala Joseph Cecala

    I have a big feeling that Montero and Noesi will be traded in this offseason. I am not at all happy with that feeling.

    • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

      Please, please, please be wrong about that feeling. Please.

    • http://www.twitter.com/brandonholley B-Rando

      I too am picking up on a vibe that says Montero’s time is numbered. I don’t like it at all, but its just a feeling I have.

      • Jorge (needs a new name)

        My feeling is that Jesus Montero will be spending the next 5-6 years in pinstripes, at least. Who are you going to trade him for? Is Clayton Kershaw going to fall from the sky?

    • Ed

      I think guys like Phelps and Warren are more likely to be traded than Noesi. Cashman seems far more willing to trade guys who haven’t had success in the majors yet.

      If you look back over the past 5 years or so, he’s mostly traded young pitchers that didn’t have much success with the team (Karstens, Ohlendorf, Kennedy), or guys that had minimal or no major league experience (Dunn, Vizcaino, McCutchen). The only real exception I can think of is Phil Coke. Otherwise they’ve held on to guys who have had some level of success in the majors.

    • Foghorn Leghorn

      I sincerely hope that is gas that you feel.

  • Jose M. Vazquez..

    My good Yankee colleagues it seems that the Yankee brass and us (most) fans are on the same page for once. I should be very much surprised if they traded Montero or Noesi. These two guys are part of the future and if Cashman has the power to make these decisions, he will not do it.

  • NEPA Yankee

    Seems like Girardi has a chip on his shoulder because Montero isn’t a great glove, light hitting catcher. Sad to say it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Montero is gone this winter. We already have Cervelli, we need more bats!

    • Jose M. Vazquez..

      You must mean Girardi was a light hitting catcher, not Montero. From the 1930s, 40s (Dickey), to the late forties and 50s (Berra) to the 60s with Howard to the 70s with Munson to the end of the 20th century and into the 21st we have always won with good hitting catchers. NOtice the lull in between, a bunch of Girardi type catchers.

      • NEPA Yankee

        Exactly what I meant. Montero doesn’t fit into the Girardi mold. Girardi just gives off the vibe he’s reluctant to play Jesus because of his “defensive shortcomings”. Personally I can’t see how he made it throught every level of the minors as a full time catcher, and can possibly that horrible.

  • Monteroisdinero

    DTM. Don’t trade Montero. He will outhit Posada and be just as good a catcher when he takes over in a few years. Posada took over at 26.

    • Cris Pengiucci

      That’s exactly what I’d like to see. Hope we see it with him as a Yankee.

  • Jesus Freak

    “overwhelming theme was the idea of “clutch” and “clutch players,” just every other question was about that (seriously).”
    ———————————————————

    Hey, look at that, I started a trend.

  • Steve

    I think Phil gets half a year to show what he can do; if he’s not that good, another kid will get the chance and Phil will be sent to the pen.

    He has to come into camp in shape – it still bothers me that after one full year starting, he was so out of shape they had to send him to a fat farm

  • UYF1950

    It’s just a guess on my part but either Montero or Romine will get traded before the start of the 2012 season. With Sanchez also in the minors the Yankees have at least 1 to many catcher in their system. My guess is Romine, Noesi and one of the “other” prospects in Double A would make a very, very appealing package for a legit #2 starter from another team.
    Like I said in an earlier post here a combination of CC, Nova, Hughes, AJ and Noesi/Garcia doesn’t inspire a lot confidence at least in this fan for their ability to take the Yankees deep into the 2012 playoffs and potentially a WS shot. That’s just my opinion.

    • Jose M. Vazquez..

      In 1961 the Yankees had Berra, Howard and Blanchard all three had over 20 homers although Yogi played mostly outfield then. So if a guy can hit you find somewhere he can play.

    • Jorge (needs a new name)

      Gary Sanchez is lightyears away from the major leagues. He cannot be counted on as any part of the puzzle whatsoever. Trading players who now have MLB experience because Sanchez is waiting in the wings isn’t going to happen.

      Montero showed what he could do. I don’t think he’s going anywhere. I think Romine would be expendable in a package resembling the one you’re saying. Now if that “#2 starter” you speak of even exists, I have n clue.

      I would be fine with the rotation that instills little confidence in you if its the result of the franchise not finding other options that benefit the team in the short and long term. If it means hoping for a best-case scenario out of Noesi, as well as Hughes’s return to form, as a stopgap to Banuelos/Betances emerging to take a spot, then so be it. You don’t need to look that far into the past to see what desparation acquisitions of pitching, just for the sake of it, look like. Jaret Wright and Carl Pavano wave hello.

      • UYF1950

        Jorge, what’s “light years” for Sanchez? Three. What I’m saying is that the Yankees have 5 catchers either on the roster or that will be available to the team at some point in the future (Martin, Cervelli, Montero, Romine and yes Sanchez). Obviously Sanchez is a ways down the road and you’re right you can’t count on him at this point. No more so then you can count on any “prospect”. Also, I wasn’t implying any “desperation acquisitions”. But rather a carefully analysis of what a prospective trading partner might need and what the Yankees are willing to give up. I have faith that there are teams out that that are looking for cost control that would look favorably on 4 or 5 years cost certainty of young prospects/rookies with upside. Versus a player that will be hitting FA within a year or 2.
        I wish I shared the confidence that some of you on this board have about getting by with a rotation of CC, Nova, AJ, Hughes and Noesi/Garcia or potentially at some point in late 2012 Banuelos or Betances “filling in the gap”. Because up to this point AJ has been a disaster, Hughes has “issues” and Noesi is an “unknown” quantity. And who can say what Garcia (if they re-sign him), Betances or Banuelos will bring to the table in 2012. Plus that’s not to mention that Nova would have to have at least the same success in 2012 if not more then he had in 2011. Last year AJ, Hughes, Colon and Garcia got about 35 wins. Are any of us confident the in 2012 a combination of AJ, Hughes, and some combination of 1 of the following Garcia, Noesi, Banuelos and Betances will account for 35 wins in 2012. Because I just don’t see it.

        • Jorge (needs a new name)

          The rotation stuff is going to be a difference of opinion. That’s fine. We’re allowed that around here. :)

          With Sanchez, yes, it’s three years, but its three years of significant development which we still haven’t seen occur. We can sit here and assume that, with his advance billing, it’s going to happen, but players are far more likely to fizzle out making the jumps he still needs to make than they will going from, say, even AA to the majors. Let’s see him do this in AA first, then talk.

      • Tom

        Sanchez has apparently also raised some flags defensively and there are some wondering if he will stick at catcher long term.

        Unless the plan is to go with Martin for a while (I just don’t see Montero starting and catching 90-100 games), Romine is the only viable internal option for the intermediate term (2013/2014). Since Sanchez/Murphy are too far away to really know what will happen I don’t see the Yankees trading Romine unless it was part of a bigger package for a blue chip starter.

        You need to look no further than the Twins and Wilson Ramos… sure they had Mauer, but you don’t trade away a potential starting catcher unless you are bringing back a solid piece in return. Too many things can change with catchers that I think having a surplus at this position is a tremendous asset to any organization. The logjam tends to work itself out – catchers can shift to 1B, maybe even a corner OF if the bat is strong enough.

  • Jose M. Vazquez..

    Continuing on catchers: it was not until Clemens arrived that Posada began to get a bad reputation for his catching despite the fact that we had already won two WS with him behind the plate. Surely he was not the greatest defensive backstop but he could hit from both sides of the plate. Clemens had never won anything and he did later hanging onto Cone and El Duque’s ccoatails.

    • gc

      Don’t rewrite history. In 1999, Clemens did have the one awful stinker against Boston in the ALCS, but he also threw 7 innings of 3 hit, no run ball in the ALDS against Texas and 7.2 innings of 4 hit, 1 run ball in the World Series against Atlanta. It’s not like he completely stunk up the place in the post-season and relied on the rest of the team to bail him out every single time he took the mound.

      • Jose M. Vazquez..

        You are correct he did throw well once or twice in important games.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        So Francesa is wrong

  • Hardy

    If you add up all quotes, it looks like Girardi plans to use an eight-man rotation next season.

    • Foghorn Leghorn

      “8 Aces”?

      /Boston Rotation’d/

  • Neal

    Girardi’s tepid comments on Montero and the young pitchers is depressing. With the 2nd oldest team in the majors (Phillies are oldest), I fear that we will have more years of wandering in the Yankee desert. This team must get younger and building pitching from within is the only effective way to do it in this era of baseball. This team has a habit of mistrusting all of its young talent and player development. Perhaps it is time to party like it’s 1983????

    • Jorge (needs a new name)

      You’re reading too much into it. I think he’s correct in hedging his bets somewhat in this type of conference.

  • Jamey

    I think if Jorge had been used from the start the way he was used down the stretch, he’d be somewhat a priority to retain. He’s not an everyday player, even at DH but showed he has value as a bench player & can still work a walk in a big spot & drive in runs in pinch hit situations. It reminds me of how Bernie was used during his final season down the stretch, I think as long as the Yankees don’t do the “we won’t give you a Major League contract” thing they did to Bernie & as long as he accepted a significant lesser role, he’s still a good player in a minimal role. If even THAT doesn’t work out well, Posada could even pull a Griffey Jr. & retire, have a “Goodbye Jorge” night at Yankee Stadium & there’s guys waiting in the system that can fill that role or I’m sure plenty of trade options that won’t cost a lot.

    As far as the DH, I’d like a Montero/Jones platoon with the other starters getting their games there. That way they could try to work it out so on some of the Jones & “rest” days Montero can spell the C & get his work in there behind the plate. I don’t think having 3 catchers on the roster is bad at all, gives a lot of flexibility considering one of them is a guy in Montero that doesn’t NEED to play there.

  • Foghorn Leghorn

    lots to look forward about the yanks…meanwhile…

    in Chicago, Ken Williams was close to hiring Konerko as a player manager…

    and in beantown, they’ve fired their manager, GM is on the outs and the fans are calling for Wakefield AND Varitek to return and for Varitek to return as a manager…

  • Monteroisdinero

    Montero is the second best hitter in our organization after Cano. He has an ELITE bat and is cost controlled and is 21.

    If they trade him instead of adding him to the team with the best record in the AL despite a crappy year from ARod, they are NUTS!!!!!!

  • firegirardi

    The worst thing the would do to their young pitchers going forward would be to limit them. Look what they did to Joba and Hughes. Putting them on limits only limits how many innings they can pitch in the future. They need to throw as much as they can to build up arm strength. Younger pitchers realize this, and some even threatened to refuse to sign if teams were gonna limit them, like trevor bauer out of ucla and others.

    They also need to shape up the line up and get younger in the field, like not pick up swisher’s option and play montero as much as possible.

    And the bottom line with the middle of the lineup is that they weren’t clutch, and never have been. Just look at teix, arod, and swisher’s numbers in the postseason. I don’t consider striking out with the bases loaded multiple times “unlucky”.

    • Jorge (needs a new name)

      I greatly enjoyed watching your eight no-hitters, Mr. Ryan.

    • Bavarian Yankee

      sry, but declining Swisher’s option would be just dumb. Who’d replace him? Beltran? You don’t have to get younger just to get younger. You have to put the best team out there and I think nobody on the market is better than Swisher. Just pick up his option, next years market for outfielders is much better: Hamilton, Kemp, Ethier, Victorino etc.
      No need to sign somebody like Beltran so a multiyear deal when much better guys are available next year.

      btw: Age doesn’t care, performance does.

  • Kevin

    I’m osrry but at some point we are going to have to get younger. Trading away Montero or Romine or others unless it’s for an ace would be foolish to the max.