A departure, but not yet the end, for Jorge

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In 1991, Jorge made his professional debut with the Oneonta Yankees.

And then there were two.

As the Yankees gear up for an active off-season as the team prepares for the 2012 season, the clock is ticking inexorably forward for the players with whom I’ve grown up. Bernie Williams faded from view in 2006, Andy Pettitte stepped down after the wear and tear of 2010 grew to be too much, and now, it seems, it is Jorge’s turn.

The erstwhile catcher turned part-time DH spoke on Wednesday night at a charity event for his foundation. He hasn’t decided to hang it up yet, and a few Major League teams have come a-knockin’. The Yankees however are not one of them. “I don’t think there’s even a percentage of a chance that I can come back. It’s not going to happen,” Posada said.

I can’t imagine Posada’s emotions as the season ended. Drafted by the Yankees in the 1990 amateur draft when he was all of 19 years old, the Puerto Rican native has spent an eternity with the Yankee organization. In fact, only Mariano Rivera has been with the organization for longer. Over the past 17 years, Posada has earned more than $117 million from the Yanks, and he has put up numbers as a catcher that make him a serious contender for Cooperstown. He hit .273/.374/.474 with 275 home runs and starred in October on four World Series winners.

“I,” Posada said, “will always be a Yankee. The Yankees for me is my second family. It would be tough to put on another uniform for real and learn another set of rules and all that stuff, but that’s one of those things. I have to see if I want to keep playing.”

Posada, who had a tough time coming to grips with a team that no longer needed his full services this year, knows what baseball is all about. After 17 years in the Majors with the same team, Jorge harbors no grudges. “At the end of the day, it’s a business,” he said. “You look back and you wish there was some things that could have gone differently, but they didn’t. There’s nothing I could control. Everything happened for a reason. I’m not bitter at the Yankees. I’m not bitter at Joe Girardi. I’m not bitter at Brian Cashman. It just happened.”

We lived through the Posada drama this year. Mired in a bad slump, he benched himself when he was on the verge of hitting ninth. He ended the year at just .235/.315/.398 in 387 plate appearances, and he saw the future in Jesus Montero emerge in September. He isn’t quite ready to call it a career though, and his .269/.348/.466 line against right-handers has made him a wanted man. Still, Jorge said, questions remain: “Do I want to do it for somebody else? Do I want to leave home? Do I want to do it all over again without knowing anybody? It would be tough. I’ve got great people, great friends and great teammates and it would be tough to learn new people again.”

His wife last night expressed an interest in seeing Jorge play for the Marlins at a new stadium near their home. It would be the final hurrah of a great career, but I selfishly would rather not see him anywhere else. He’s Jorge Posada, Yankee. Even as other Hall of Fame lifers have ended their careers elsewhere, I want to see my favorite players go out on top as proud Yankees. It’s the cheesiness of the emotional impact of the game. Jorge was there through my teen years and well past college. Don’t wind up playing out a perfunctory final season with Tampa Bay or the Marlins just to show the world you can.

Jorge told reporters last night that he doesn’t know what he’s going to do, but he said he’s been talking to Bernie about it all. “Make sure you make the right decision,” Jorge said Bernie told him. “Don’t say or do something that you are going to regret.” Go out on your own terms, go out when you want to, and hopefully after 20 years, go out a Yankee.

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  • CANO FAN #1

    HIP HIP…

  • whozat

    That card is awesome! I have an old Columbus Clippers Bernie Williams card that I got as part of some Cracker Jacks promo back in about 1990. His mustache was amazingly shady and scraggly!

  • http://theevilsquare.com handtius

    Man, I can not even express the sadness I have of the thought of the Yankees without Posada. After Bernie, He was one of my all-time favorites. I remember when he broke in. All I could think was, whose this fucker taking Girardi’s time, then it all made sense. He Always seemed to come through. I went to my fair share of games this year and I swear, Po was in the middle of helping the win every time. I have the pictures to back that up. I feel lucky to be around for his final year. I remember when it came out that he pissed on his hands. Oh man did we have some awesome cracks about that. I think it still comes up during games at least a couple dozen times.

    Jorge, your piss on hand ways, along with your awesome barehanded batting style, will be missed. And no, Cervelli doesn’t count.

  • Rich in NJ

    Posada has been the most under appreciated Yankee of the championsipship run. If any recent Yankee catcher is Thurman Munson-like, showing both great ability and toughness, it’s him.

  • Rob

    Jorge you will be missed, I love prospects as much as the next guy but Jorge was always there it seemed. He was a great leader, handled pitchers not named AJ great, and always ran away from the plate when it was time to block <3. Martin/Montero/Sanchez…and when all those prospects puff out like Texas guys did who ever else is called upon……you got big shoes to fill.

  • Mister Delaware

    Jorge in another uniform would make me barf. Bring on the Core 2.

  • Kiko Jones


    To date, you are the best offensive catcher of the 21st century; a borderline HoFer; contributed to 4 championships; a 5-time All Star; in your final post-season you went out on top, with a .429 average; you had a long, illustrious career in which you made a lot of money; and you’ll always be remembered in the Bronx as one of the great Yankees. Just retire, dude.

    Yes, it’s hard to give up the only job you’ve ever had. (And on the biggest of stages, no less.) But look at it this way, how many folks get to retire at the age of 40 with millions in the bank? And hey, I may not have been one of your fans throughout the years but I always appreciated and was grateful for what you did for my team. So, thanks.

  • Urban

    I have a different perspective on this than most Yankee fans, and maybe it’s because I was already an adult when the dynasty 1990s team was built. I love all those guys, but they’re not players from my childhood.

    Jorge has more to gain by playing than not playing, and as fans of the Yankees and Jorge, we too might have a little bit of something to gain if he continues to play. Another Yankee, and a member of the 90s dynasty in the HOF.

    He’s reguarly referred to as a borderline HOFer, which generally means he’s not going to make the HOF. He was held down a little longer than he should have in the minors, and then served behind Girardi for a while, keeping his counting stats low, even for a catcher. Voters love counting stats. 300+ career HRs would be a nice number and a couple more seasons as a DH/1B/C will get him there.

    I really don’t care if he wears another uniform or two and plays for a couple more teams for a couple more seasons. He is a always a Yankee.

    Make them rip that uniform off you. Plenty of time to be retired.

    Play on, Jorge, play on.

    • Steve (different one)

      Doesn’t that go both ways though? If Jorge wasn’t held back behind girardi,, is he putting up good numbers at 35-39? Don’t know, but it seems reasonable.

  • Kevin

    What place will there be for him in the Marlins NL? He’s not going to be asked to catch,there is no place for him at 1st..at most he’ll be a pinch hitter.

  • Avi

    Jorge, please come back as a bench player/mentor this year. One year $1M work for everyone?

    • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

      I don’t get this. How would this work out? I just don’t see the Yankees using a valuable 25 man roster spot for Posada to be a mentor and occasionally shake the dust off his bat and pinch hit. Who is he mentoring? Montero? Can’t Girardi, Pena, and others on the team do that? He had a great career, just time to call it quits.

      • Ted Nelson

        I don’t really care about the mentoring angle (not that it has no importance, just that as a fan I don’t know these guys or what goes on behind the scenes so why speculate?), but Jorge can still hit RHP and be more valuable than a whole lot of bench players in MLB.

        It would not be about nostalgia or occasionally pinch-hitting. If the Yankees were comfortable with Nunez as their sole back-up IF, Posada would be the primary back-up at DH and 1B. Jesus has started each of the past two seasons in a total daze, so having a back-up plan in case he doesn’t start hitting until summer isn’t the worst thing. Having a back-up to his RHP when Montero is Cing might be important if they plan to use Montero at C. He would also be a back-up plan in case Teixiera’s LH swing doesn’t improve.

        There are arguments that a second back-up IF and/or OF could be more valuable. When your top candidates are guys like Casey Blake, Jerry Hairston, Brandon Laird… I certainly think there’s an argument that Jorge could be just as valuable to the team. Not to mention that if he doesn’t work out, Casey Blake and Jerry Hairston will probably be available at the deadline and Laird will be in AAA. I would really call it 50/50.

        • Steve (different one)

          The problem with this is that it opens up the possibility of having to DFA a Yankee legend mid-year. They survived this in 2011. It’s time to cut ties.

          • Ted Nelson

            Who cares? It would be contingent on him and the team both knowing this was a very real possibility. If he can’t deal with that, don’t sign him. Fans would get over it in about 2 days. Most fans seem to already be over Jorge.

        • Willis T Firefly???

          Backup DH???? That’s a stretch!!!

          The Yankees roster should not be about making a place for Jorge. That’s completely bass-ackwards. They need to define their needs, then find the best players available that fulfill those needs. I find it hard to imagine Cashman is thinking “OMG! Where are we going to find a backup DH??!!!”

          • Ted Nelson

            Get a clue. Your comment is wrong in so many ways, including that it basically ignores what I was actually saying.

            Their need is for production and value. Period.

            Jorge can provide that by taking DH PAs against RHP if Jesus struggles (which he has to start both of the past two seasons… how can anyone be sure he’ll stop this trend?) and if/when Jesus catches.

            Jorge literally out-hit Teixiera last season against RHP. Jorge had a .353 wOBA vs. Tex’s .337.

            There is a real opportunity to get value out of a lefty bat behind Jesus and Tex.

            Notice that I did not say “they have to sign Jorge!” I said that if he’s a better option in their eyes than Casey Blake or whatever other questionable guy… they should see if Jorge’s willing to put aside his ego to take a smaller role.

            • Willis T Firefly???

              I’ll ignore the insults, and attend to the core of your argument. Jorge hit .092 against left-handed pitching. That’s basically an automatic out. That makes him a very weak DH, even as a specialist against RHP– you have to pull him out with a lefty swap, or give up the at-bat.

              This greatly diminishes Jorge’s value as anything more than a pinch-hitter, as it puts the manager in a strategic straight-jacket. An alternative player who hits just a bit less against RHP but could hang in with a .220 average against LHP would be much less constraining and a better use of a roster slot. And I have to believe there are such players out there.

              It would be different if it were viable for Jorge to sit in as a 3rd-string catcher in an emergency, but I don’t think that’s realistic.

              • Ted Nelson

                You insult my comment and then get offended when I insult yours back… interesting. I stand behind what I said.

                Again, I am not saying Jorge is the best option, I am saying he could be. Depends on who the other options are. Your logic is flawed, though, IMO. Platoon players are VERY common.

                “That makes him a very weak DH, even as a specialist against RHP– you have to pull him out with a lefty swap, or give up the at-bat.”

                I am aware of this. Platoon players are employed throughout the majors. A LH platoon hitter is especially valuable because most P are RHP.

                You also assume he can’t improve his RH swing. Which he possibly can. In just 2010 he had a .361 wOBA against LHP, better than his #s against RHP that season.

                “This greatly diminishes Jorge’s value as anything more than a pinch-hitter, as it puts the manager in a strategic straight-jacket.”

                BS. PH for him later in the game… how hard is that? Use Nunez, Jones/replacement, or the guy he’s subbing in for that day. Filling DH or 1B isn’t particularly difficult defensively.

                Why are you using batting average?

                Again, he was better against RHP as recently as 2010. He could work out his swing this off-season.

                “It would be different if it were viable for Jorge to sit in as a 3rd-string catcher in an emergency, but I don’t think that’s realistic.”

                With Cervelli and Montero on the roster, he’s the 4th string C.

    • Rainbow Connection

      So he can be ‘insulted’ and quit on his team again? Good riddance.

      • Jim Is Bored

        I wish you would quit on your team.

  • Big boy3000lbs

    I cant see him anywhere else but a yankee but it’s his choice if he leaves I’ll always be a fan of the Yankees fan and a jorge posada Fan!

  • Big boy3000lbs

    I cant see him anywhere else but a yankee but it’s his choice if he leaves I’ll always be a fan of the Yankees fan and a jorge posada fan

  • Monteroisdinero

    Catchers make good coaches/managers. Hopefully, Jorge can find a spot in the organization somewhere to do that.

    What else is he going to do for the rest of his life?

    Big ears, big hands…..hopefully his ego isn’t too big to not know when to call it quits.

    • bonestock94

      Enjoy his millions with his family?

      He doesn’t have to call it quits, he could probably be a pinch hitter in the NL against righties. I’d rather see him retire a Yankee but it wouldn’t be an embarrassment.

  • http://jukeofurl.wordpress.com Juke Early

    I guess the Yankees didn’t pay Posada enough over 20 years so that he could comfortably retire & be with his family 12/12. Apparently he still needs to earn his keep. One thing I’m sure of, if he comes to bat v. the NYY, they’ll be too stupid to get him out when they need to do it.

    • Steve (different one)


    • Ted Nelson

      He might, you know, actually enjoy playing the game…

  • pollo

    eh i couldn’t care less what he does. good luck being a non-yakee jorge, whatever it is you do.

  • Monteroisdinero

    He was selling his Manhattan apt and Tampa place months back. Scaling back already!

  • Jose M. Vazquez..

    In Yankee history there have been five great catchers: Dickey, Berra, Howard, Munson and Posada. The rest before and in between are or were journeymen. As far as the HOF there are many players with worse credentials than Posada’s in there.

  • wilcymoore27

    Posada can still hit. He’d be a good pickup as an American League DH. I would be sorry to see him end his career in a uniform other than the Yankees, but if he still has the urge to play he should do it.

    Good luck, Jorge!

    • Monteroisdinero

      Posada could not hit at all right handed. With another year of age, does anyone think he can repeat his 2011 line left handed? Time to hang it up.

      • Ted Nelson

        The majority of pitchers are RHP.

        And yes, I do think he can repeat 2011. Decline is not a pre-determined, straight-line thing… He might well re-discover something and have a better 2012 than 2011.

    • pat

      He was an American League DH last year and hit .235/.315/.398. He has had a great career, but he’s toast.

      • Ted Nelson

        Please look at the splits.

  • Jasphil

    Baseball is an unforgiving game. Players like Jorge who master the hardest position on the field, and learn how to hit and hit well, make it look easy. When those skills erode, we see how difficult this game really is. We are seeing the page turn here – Bernie, Andy, now Jorge, soon Derek and Mariano. Enter a new crop of homegrown Yankees. This reminds me of 1992-1996 when the foundation of our success was laid. Don’t take it for granted.

  • http://NYBronxBombers24-7 Brian

    Agree as good as he has been for the yankees it’s time to move on

  • jjyank

    Hip Hip!

    As one of those guys who grew up with the 90’s dynasty, I will miss Jorge sorely. The beginning of my baseball consciousness began around 1994/95 and guys like Bernie, Jorge, Mo, Pettite, and Jeter will always be my childhood heros. Especially Bernie, he was my favorite player. Jorge was a great player, a great leader, and I will always remember him fondly.

    I get that he might have trouble letting go of the one thing he’s ever done professionally, but it would definitely bother me to see him in another uniform. I know the split with Bernie wasn’t graceful, but at least he went out as a Yankee. I understood Pettite going to Houston, but I wasn’t happy about it. I hope Jorge, and eventually Mo and Jeter, go out into the sunset with their pinstripes still on.

  • mike


    Old time players hung around for one last paycheck, as the teams were ruthless when dealing with injured or declining players before multi-uyear, guaranteed contracts.

    Jorge has more than he could ever spend…does he want to get cut from the Marlins in June after batting .135 as a backup 1B/PH?

    Duke as a SF Giant? Berra as a Met? Namath as a Ram? Ruth as a Boston Brave???

    Do it like Donnie baseball or Jackie Robinson…..retire rather than go out weakly wearing the rags of someone else

    • Ted Nelson

      Uh… Donnie Baseball had a degenerative back condition. He would not have retired at 34 otherwise.

      Look at Jorge’s splits before posting… he was not done against RHP last season.

      • mike

        If Donnie wanted a contract form another team, he could have gotten one- I seem to remember St. Louis was mentioned alot until he shot that down. Also, if the Yanks didn’t decide to trade for Tino and opted wanted to re-sign Donnie, he would have taken a contract.

        Also, I did notice Posada’s splits, and more importantly i watched him basically every at bat of the season. He cannot get around on a good fastball. If you are going to be a PH ( which he never did well) or platoon guy off the bench, especially in the NL, he will face fastballs and he will look silly.

        Point remains Donnie went out even though he had some gas in the tank, and could still field his position. Posada is, at best, a soft hitting right-handed DH who cannot play the field and cannot run.

        • Ted Nelson

          Again… Mattingly retired because he was in pain. He didn’t have any gas left in the tank… he had a career ending degenerative injury. His final season he was replacement level. It’s debatable how much Jorge has left in the tank, but if he comes back it stands to reason he feels physically able to play. Mattingly did not.

          “Posada is, at best, a soft hitting right-handed DH who cannot play the field and cannot run.”

          Posada is a switch hitter. He actually hit far better from the left side last season.

  • Rainbow Connection

    Greed is a helluva drug.

    • Cris Pengiucci

      It wouldn’t appear this is greed. He’s deciding if he wants to put his body through a grueling 162 game schedule, with preseason conditioning and Spring Training games on top of that. He certainly won’t be given a large contract. We have no idea of what his finances are like, but I’d guess it’s more likely that he’s got enough money and is simply deciding if he’s able to give up the only profession he’s ever known.

    • Jim Is Bored

      Good lord, dude. You are a damn persistent troll.

    • Ted Nelson

      He could make more money than he will playing next season (which will not be much by MLB standards) by holding some youth baseball camps, writing a book, and going on a speaking tour. So if he’s greedy, I suppose he’ll retire?

  • Ted Nelson

    A little surprised to see his say that there was nothing he could control. He could have hit better, and he could have handled the #9 situation better. If that’s his attitude I can certainly see why there’s no interest in bringing him back. Would have to be willing to be a (cheap) bench player to be of value to the Yankees.

    I disagree completely with the notion that it matters what team a guy retires on. I’m not going to look back and remember his one year in, possibly, Florida (unless maybe he has a great year or wins the WS… which are both good things for him) or his retirement after the 2011 season, whichever way it happens. I’m going to remember his career. If he wants to play, I have no problem with that at all.

    • CountZero

      I’m with you on the 2nd paragraph. Who am I to begrudge him the opportunity to earn a couple million more dollars to fund his retirement plans? Because that’s what this is really all about — he’s probably not going to collect another paycheck for the rest of his life, so if you have the chance to grab some more on the way out, do it.

      Maybe I’m a bit mercenary about the whole thing, but I just don’t buy into the whole “retire as” narrative. If he had made as much as Jeter or A-Rod, well maybe. But I can respect the desire to pad the investment account as much as possible and protect your family against a rainy day.

      • moonimus

        That rainy day must be a biblical one.

      • Ted Nelson

        “Who am I to begrudge him the opportunity to earn a couple million more dollars to fund his retirement plans? Because that’s what this is really all about”

        Doubt it. Guy could easily write a book and make cake (doing no work, because he wouldn’t actually write the book… just dictate). Then he could travel a little, make a few speeches, and make more cake.

        I would imagine that this is about wanting to play baseball, and/or wanting to solidify HOF credentials.

      • Jose M. Vazquez..

        117mil with the Yankees is not enough?

  • moonimus

    Jorge was a great player all these years and definitely appreciate his body of work. However I won’t miss his baserunning blunders (him and Bernie were awful instinctual baserunners), his below average defense and at times what seemed like boneheaded anger. Overall love the guy though and will thank him for the memories.

  • moonimus

    Jorge was a great player all these years and definitely appreciate his body of work. However I won’t miss his baserunning blunders (him and Bernie were awful instinctual baserunners), his below average defense and at times what seemed like boneheaded anger. Overall love the guy though.

  • Paul from Boston

    How sad. He could have been the BUC and DH for the 2011 team. Instead, they decided he couldn’t catch anymore and then they relegated him to a position he had never excelled at. They suffered through a full season of Cervelli’s suckfest. I’d be pissed too.

    The Marlins won’t be getting a DH – that’s for damn sure.

    • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

      Revisionist history, no? The Yanks and Jorge made it clear that he wasn’t going to catch due to the concussion concerns, and Cervelli wasn’t that bad. Come on now.

    • Steve (different one)

      Cervelli outhit posada. Crazy but true.

  • Dale Mohorcic

    It’s the bottom of the ninth in game 7 of the 2012 World Series here in Miami. The Yankees took a 1 run lead on a 2 run double by Jesus Montero in the top of the ninth and Girardi calls on Mariano Rivera to close out the game and the Series for the Yankees 28th title. Hanley Ramirez, Mike Stanton and Logan Morrison due up. Hanley grounds out to second. Stanton works a long 10 pitch at bat into a walk. Logan Morrison hits a fly ball into the right field corner for out number 2 and Stanton advances to second. With the pitchers spot due up because of the earlier double switch, Ozzie Guillen calls on the last bullet off of his bench-41 year old Jorge Posada who hit .231 as a pinch hitter this year but managed to hit 9 homers in 78 at bats. Jorge vs. Mo for all the marbles. It could happen.

  • Frankeee1

    I will never forget how Cashman addressed the media that night that Posada had to come to grips with his new reality. Instead of deflecting the issue and giving a loyal veteran time to deal, he was ready to void his contract and throw him overboard. I know this is business but that will always make Cashman a cold, heartless SOB in my eyes. Giradi belatedly took his back after seeing Brian’s reaction and Posada rewarded him with his play and clubhouse presence thereafter. Nobody cheered louder for Montero as well as Jeet and Mo. Thanks Jorge, good luck with what ever you decide to do.

    • Ted Nelson

      So Cashman should not do his job, and it’s alright for Jorge to refuse to do his job? Did I get that right?

      • Frankeee1

        hope you dont have any kids or supervise any employees

        • Dave

          Jorge was a multi-millionaire who was getting paid 10x what he was worth at the end. I hope you don’t run a business where you give employees 10x what they are worth to do a job just because they were good once.

          People like you are the reason teams get old and die. Baseball is a cruel world. Thank god Cashman realizes this.

        • Ted Nelson

          Jorge is a grown man, not a kid.

          If I had an employee (a line worker really… 1 cog in a 9 man line) paid 10+x his market value due to seniority publicly refusing to do his job and what was in the best interest of the company… I would not coddle him. You honestly would?

          • Darren

            you’re an asshole

  • Mike HC

    I think he is going to play for another team. His socialite wife is going to convince him to do so.

    • Ted Nelson

      What incentive does she have for him to play?

      • mike

        its alot more fun being Ms Jorge Posada, wife of borderline HOF player who you can read about/ see in the paper every day, than Ms Posada, wife of former Yankee who is expected to ride gracefully off into the sunset

        • Mike HC

          A lot more attention, invites, chances for “charity” appearances, promotion for her clothing line or whatever she dabbles in, and whatever else those socialites like. Retired ball player doesn’t open as many doors.

          • Ted Nelson

            Being the punching bag of the NY media opens more doors than retiring? Really?

            Retired great (with possibly 9 figures in net worth) would seem to me to be of higher status than struggling PH specialist on the bench. Would you rather invite Mike Piazza to your party, or Nick Evans?

            • Mike HC

              Jorge being an active Major Leaguer opens more doors than him retiring. If you disagree, that’s cool.

              • Ted Nelson

                I honestly don’t know, and neither do you I would guess.

                He’s not some journey-man Bull Durham schmuck. People will still know who Jorge is when he retires, and last season all I think he did was tarnish his public image between terrible overall play and publicly refusing to do his job.

                He can get a job with ESPN (or ESPN Deportes), he can coach, he can write a book… guy doesn’t have to disappear from the public eye unless he wants to.

                If you’re the 25th man on a roster… yeah, being able to say active MLB player is sexier than former MLB journeyman who mostly kicked around the minors. Still, I know former pro athletes who were never any good (comparatively) who get just as much benefit from their experiences now as ever.

                • Mike HC

                  You would be guessing wrong then. But that is your right.

                  • Ted Nelson

                    You know Mrs. Posada’s inner thoughts? Great for you douchebag.

        • Ted Nelson

          How do you have any idea what it’s like being Mrs (not Ms…) Jorge Posada?

          How do you knows she doesn’t want her husband home?

          How much higher profile is the Marlins’ PH than a retired great? Was his profile actually positive last season? Guy was a punching bag. More embarrassing to be his wife last season than anything.

          How is it fun to read about how poorly he’s playing? That’s about all she could have read last season.

          Guy’s life isn’t going to end when he retires.

    • Mike HC

      “His wife last night expressed an interest in seeing Jorge play for the Marlins at a new stadium near their home.”

      The guy had a brain scan showing permanent damage with the potential for it to get worse. But his wife wants him right back on the horse for an NL team without a DH.

      • Ted Nelson

        You’re drawing a lot of baseless conclusions based on your own assumptions.

        You assume she even knows the difference between AL and NL. And you assume she has more than a marginal say in the decision. It’s as likely as anything that he is privately adamant about wanting to play next season, and she wants him close to home if he does.

        • Mike HC

          Damn, you think even less of her than I do. She has been married to a professional baseball player for over a decade and you don’t think she knows the difference between the AL and NL? And you think her say in the decision would be marginal?

          • Ted Nelson

            I have no idea since I do not know the woman. I am saying that I am not jumping to conclusions, and you are. I am saying that any number of realities is possible, you are assuming one reality with very little information.

            I’ve worked at a biofuel start up close to two years, and my girlfriend of close to two years doesn’t know much about biofuel at all. We have a good relationship and I do tell her quite a bit about work and the company’s strategy, but that doesn’t mean she knows much of anything about biofuel from a technical standpoint. We watch sports together regularly, and she still doesn’t know basic rules of sports we watch all he time.

            I have no idea what her influence is. I have no idea about their relationship. I have no idea about Jorge’s thoughts on retirement vs. continuing outside of public quotes. It is possible that he just tells her “Ok, that’s your opinion but mine is different.”

            • Mike HC

              So why comment at all if you “have no idea” about any of it. Just to tell me that I don’t know either? You are assuming that I don’t know any more than you know? So maybe you are assuming wrong.

              • Ted Nelson

                You are a real douche.

  • John

    Jorge roaring and fist pumping after sliding into 2nd off Pedro in game 7 of the 2003 alcs was unreal.

    Jorge was never my favorite but hell be missed.

  • http://fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

    Boo-hoo. I’m 40 years old and have made $120M playing a kids’ game. And they won’t let me play where I want to at 41 years old and pay me a couple million dollars for it.

    Life is sooooo sad.

    • http://fendersonandhampton.com Cuso

      Kills me that everyone wants to romanticize EVERY SINGLE YANKEE. Posada was good. He was a lifer. He’s not Jeter. He’s not Mo.

      A fond farewell. Thanks for the memories. Now get the hell out.

      • Mike HC

        He does have four World Championships with the team and played for a ridiculously long time and been with the organization since he was 19. I think he can be rightfully romanticized.

      • Ted Nelson

        Where’s your arbitrary cut-off on who to “romanticize” and who not to?

        And who is “romanticizing” him? How?

    • Ted Nelson

      Did you actually read the article? Doesn’t seem like he’s crying or whining at all.

  • TFish

    Thanks Jorge for all the great memories. You are a class act and a Yankee lifer. You were a leader in the clubhouse and a winner in life.

  • http://theevilsquare.com handtius

    wow. a fond fair well this comment section is not. lot of bitter peoples out there. jorge was a great player for the yanks for a long time, he got paid handsomely. whether he wants to play for the cash or for the love of the game, who cares. he did good by the yanks for a long time. i’ll always remember his fire and his peeing on hand ways. good luck po po.