The Obligatory Yoenis Cespedes Post

Fan Confidence Poll: November 7th, 2011
The Yankees' ever-so-slight decline against righthanded pitching

Warning: The music in the video is totally NSFW.

If you were sleeping, you missed it. Cuban-defector Yoenis Cespedes became an overnight sensation last night, after Kevin Goldstein linked to the above video and provided a massive breakdown of the outfielder’s talent. It’s a Baseball Prospectus column, but you do not need a subscription to read it. Shortly thereafter, Jeff Passan reported that MLB and the Office of Foreign Assets Control is expected to declare Cespedes eligible for free agency in the next few weeks, adding that the Yankees are “particularly hot” for him. It’s like high school all over again.

The video is over 20 minutes long but between the opening monologue and closing credits, it’s about 15 minutes of Cespedes actually strutting his stuff. It’s more of a promo for a Michael Bay flick than a traditional scouting video, highlighting the purported 26-year-old’s insane athletic ability and the opposite field power that allowed him to hit 33 homeruns last season, a new single-season record in Cuba. We get to see him catch fly balls behind his back, run through a series of vertical jumps that put Cody Ransom to shame, roast a pig, and showcase an 80 hot dog tool as he admires his majestic homers.

Cespedes has a little bit of Sidd Finch in him at this point, that “shiny new toy” and “too good to be true” syndrome. Goldstein calls him “arguably the best all-around player to come out of Cuba in a generation … a legitimate center fielder with plus power and speed and is in his prime.” I have no reason to doubt him, but we don’t have the whole picture from where we sit. We don’t know if he can handle high-end velocity, sit back on offspeed stuff, actually take a ball (something many Cuban hitters refuse to do), so on and so forth. I don’t mean to rain on the parade, the kid is exciting, but a little dose of reality is needed here.

Passan says Cespedes is looking for a contract in line with Aroldis Chapman‘s, which means six years and about $30M. His agent, Andy Katz of the Wasserman Media Group (who also represents several other Cuban defectors, including Yunel Escobar and former Yankee Juan Miranda), has him working out for teams in the Dominican Republic. Adam Kilgore says the Nationals watched him recently while Juan C. Rodriguez reports that the Marlins are the early favorite to sign him. I suspect pretty much every team in the league will have interest in Cespedes at some point, just like the Chapman sweepstakes.

The Yankees are no stranger to the Cuban talent pool, paying millions of dollars to sign Miranda ($2M), Adrian Hernandez ($4M), Orlando Hernandez ($6.6M), and Jose Contreras ($32M) in the last 15 years alone. That doesn’t include the $54M they reportedly offered Chapman, though Brian Cashman shot that report down rather quickly. We’re going to hear a lot more of Cespedes in the coming weeks, I’m sure of it, and that’s a good thing because we really don’t know all that much about him. Money talks, and the offers he gets will tell us what teams think of him.

Fan Confidence Poll: November 7th, 2011
The Yankees' ever-so-slight decline against righthanded pitching
  • Granderslam

    I mean, it would make sense to put him in CF, move Granderson to LF, and possibly trade Gardner…but he’s not a proven MLB caliber player, so that would be an enormous risk.

    • Ted Nelson

      No need to do that until he proves he can play in MLB. Bring him to spring training along with the 3 starting OF and see how things play out… Worst case you’ve made a bad investment but still have your OF in place for 2012, best case you have a replacement for Swisher to trade him or let him walk next off-season.

    • Urban

      If they sign him, his first stop will be the minor leagues. If he performs, he’ll move quickly. No need to give him a spot on the MLB team. We’re talking about the F-ing NY Yankees. He’ll simply be a prospect, although a much higher-end one and one who should be more MLB ready than most.

      • YARXIMA


  • pat

    Wily Mo v2.0

  • Jesse

    I’d give him a shot. But if he signed with the Yankees, would he start the season in AAA or be the fourth outfielder?

    • jayd808

      OMG sign him up. And in answer to your question, I’d have him pitch and bat cleanup.

  • Benjamin Kabak

    Easy solutio: Trade Swisher. Sign Cespedes. Done and done.

    • Clint Holzner

      Largely agree. And even if you don’t trade Swisher because Cespedes needs some AAA time, it means they don’t have to lock him up long term.

      • Johnny O

        I’m fairly confident Ben was kidding in light of his feelings about Swisher.

        • Benjamin Kabak


          I wouldn’t be opposed to Cespedes, but the reaction I’ve seen so far has basically proclaimed this guy the next top-flight outfielder. I’m sure he’s pretty good, but no team should be basing MLB-level decisions on his ability yet. He’ll get a deal, and he’ll likely have to prove himself in the minors first. My money’s on Florida Miami going hard after him.

          • Clint Holzner

            Agree with the Miami part, makes plenty of sense. I didn’t mean at all to suggest that the Yankees should all of a sudden shop Swisher. Still a very, very valuable part of this team (despite how much people love to crucify him over the October stuff).

            The real benefit I see from signing him is that they don’t necessarily have to lock him up from ages 32-35. Its good to have options.

  • Gonzo

    There’s a rumor going around that he’s trying to find a time machine so he can…

  • Andy In Sunny Daytona

    I just want to see Cespedes and Mustellier run around Spring Training threatening to kick everyone’s ass.

    • Ted Nelson


      • Troll Killer

        It’s a Cuban thing.

  • JonS

    Hey i think it would be a nice addition. When ever it comes to the yanks i really can care less about money issues. I think the idea of having him would be nice tho because it would allow us to have that depth in the OF which we don’t have. I would give him the contract he’s looking for and put him in AAA for a year. It will allow the yanks to get a real good look at his skills and wonder what to do with gardner if adding him in a trade or if Kemp does sign an extension.

  • JoeBucksHair

    Yes please.

  • CP

    Goldstein calls him “arguably the best all-around player to come out of Cuba in a generation

    Who is the best outside of Cespedes? There have been a number of good pitchers, but I can’t think of many good position players out of Cuba.

    • Plank

      Does Jose Canseco count?

    • Johnny O

      Kendrys Morales had one great season before he was home plate’d.

    • Clint Holzner

      Jose Canseco, Yunel Escobar and Alexei Ramirez are the only ones I found that stood out at all.

      List of Cuban Players from wiki:

      • Kosmo

        I think by “ in a generation“ he might be referring to the likes of Mike Cuellar,Zoilo Versalles, Tony Oliva, Luis Tiant, Camilo Pascual.

        • Ted Nelson

          “Arguably the best all-around player to come out of Cuba in a generation” not “once in a generation.” Luis Tiant is 70… not exactly in Yoenis’ generation.

          • William

            Best comparison for him? Ruben Rivera.

      • Ted Nelson

        Conseco moved to the US as an infant, so I’m not sure he counts. I would also consider that to be a previous generation: left Cuba in 1964 and was drafted in 1982… 48 and 30 years ago.

      • Xstar7

        Rafael Palmeiro ring a bell?

        • Ted Nelson

          Good catch on Clint’s list but like Canseco, I don’t see Raffy as counting either as leaving Cuba with the most talent (went to HS in US… how much talent could he have had as a pre-teen) or as being in this generation.

          • Clint Holzner

            Didn’t look at it to hard or even check where any of the players went to HS or when they came to the US. The list is strictly Cuban BORN players. Just wanted to give people an idea.

        • Holy Ghost

          There are a lot of great ball players of Cuban ancestry. Raffy and Tino are the first to come to mind. But they grew up here in the US so I don’t think they can be used as comparables to players born and raised in Cuba…

          • Holy Ghost

            Luis Gonzalez is another notable Ameri-Cuban ball player…

    • Urban

      “A generation” is not an exact number. For many, a generation is between 25-30 years. In baseball, many view it as about twenty years. Only Goldstein can answer what he means by a generation, but it’s safe to assume it’s no further back than 1980, and could be as recent as 1990. Not exactly a robust period for Cuban MLB talent, certainly not like the 1960s.

  • Jim

    Anyone who has the balls to use Christopher Cross’s “Sailing” in their promo video is OK in my book. Sign him immediately.

  • MeGustaMontero (JM)

    If he was 21 sure, but I think he’s too old now to deserve that kind of contract. You can’t think he can step right into the MLB right now, he’d have to start at AAA. He’s gonna be 27 by the time he’s actually with the team to contribute, assuming he does well. It’s not like he’s going to be cheap. You can’t really consider him a prospect.

    • DB

      Another potential problem is Cuban players have a habit of making themselves younger, so how do we know he is actually 26? He might be closer to 30, so it might be risky.

      • MeGustaMontero (JM)

        Exactly. I was going to mention that but I was giving the benefit of the doubt.

      • Holy Ghost
        • Jose M. Vazquez..

          DNA cannot be used to determine age. They can use it as an ethnic or race classification which to some may come across as a racist operation.

        • Ed

          The DNA test is for paternity. One way that players fake their age is by using someone else’s name and birth certificate. The DNA test would prevent against that.

          Bone scans can help a little for players in their mid to late teens. Your bones look a little different while you’re still growing. As you reach the end of your teenage years, the growth plates close off. If someone is 19 and claiming to be 16, the bone scans can detect that. For someone in their 20s, the scans won’t help.

      • BK2ATL

        Very easy problem to solve. His mother was a pitcher on the Cuban National team. Go back and research her age and career, and you’ll come pretty close to his stated age of 26, being born in 1985.

        No need for an “age” witch hunt here. This one’s easy to confirm.

    • Ted Nelson

      If you haven’t scouted him extensively, how do you have any idea if he needs to start in AAA or not?

  • Jerome S.

    How do you say that name…

    • Mike Axisa

      I’m going to wait until the Yankees sign him before worrying about that.

    • Jesse

      Let me try:

      Yo-e-nis Ces-ped-es

      Just sound it out, I could be dead wrong though.

    • Dan

      I wonder what Sterling’s homerun call would be with that name?

      • Andy In Sunny Daytona

        “It’s Pay Day for Cepedes!”

  • Monteroisdinero

    Runs like Gardner, hits like Grandy, throws like Golson.

    Put him in RF.

    • FIPster Doofus


  • dean

    Hits Cuban league pitching like Granderson maybe….hitting big league pitching like Granderson isn’t a certainty

  • Chris

    One more year of Swisher and stash Cespedes in AAA until next year.

  • Matt :: Sec110

    Very intersting…why not sign him, and play him a year (or at least start him) at AAA? This was he can work on stuff and at the end of the year, with Swish being a FA, you can make a more educated decision.

    A lot of money for a AAA player? Sure, but I think it’s worth the risk.

    (this is also inpart because I think Kemp is going to stay in LA)

    • Ted Nelson

      That’s a whole lot of money if he needs to spend a whole season in AAA at 26, 27. Off the top of my head I’d say that if you can put his floor at 4th OF he might be worth the risk (obviously no one can say for sure… but the FO’s best educated guess). If you think he needs that much AAA seasoning… probably not worth the risk.

  • TomH

    Warning: The music in the video is totally NSFW.

    Not true: it’s not even
    music, just randomized sound.

    • Matt :: Sec110

      there’s some rap song…dmx maybe like halfway through the video, few choice words.

  • Jose M. Vazquez..

    His athleticism in this video is very impressive, good enough to compete in the pentathlon. At 26 he still is young and is already a very good baseball player. If the Yankees can get him at a convenient price, I say sign him up. You can always make space for a good player.

    • Urban

      True, although the best athlete doesn’t always make for the best baseball player. An inability to hit a breaking pitch will make the greatest athlete look foolish. Rueben Rivera and Gerald Williams might be as athletic as any position players to come throug the Yankee farm in years, and neither set the world on fire. Greg Golson is an excellent athlete who is not a good baseball player, with flaws in his swing and in between his ears.

  • DI

    Unless someone wants to overpay for Gardner or Swisher, stay away. Our outfield is good enough for now.

    • Ted Nelson

      The Yankees will be the ones overpaying Swisher after next season… would be a play to replace Swisher after 2012. Don’t need to trade any of the current OF until the guy has proven he’s a better option.

  • Sam

    If the yankees spend money on him and don’t go hard after Yu, I would be mightily pissed.

    • Jose M. Vazquez..

      I would be also, but I think the Yankees could do both and still have money left over to sign Buehrle.

    • Ted Nelson

      Have you scouted these guys extensively? If not, why do you have an opinion on the matter.

      • Sam

        Because if there are two unknown entities (granted they’re not unknown to the yankees who HAVE scouted them and like them both) all things being equal the yankees need more help in their starting rotation than their outfield. Also this is America, baby.

        • Ted Nelson

          Yeah, my point is that the Yankees have scouted Yu extensively and hopefully Yoenis too.

          To be pissed if they sign Yoenis and not Yu, you have to know the value of each: how much are they actually worth and how much do they get? Let’s say the Yankees offer a $50 mill posting fee on Yu thinking he’s not even worth that, and some other team offers $75 mill. Let’s say the Yankees think Yoenis is worth 6 years, $30 million and are able to sign him for 6 years, $15 million. They might get Yoenis and not Yu.

  • Granderslam

    Re: Yoenis Cespedes…Are we talking Gardner speed here?

  • IB6 UB9

    How fun would this season be with Darvish and Cespedes to follow?

  • Joe

    Quite frankly players like this guy and Darvish are what the Yankees should be using their competitive advantage on. Selig is making it a point to change the draft so the overslot players slipping to the Yankees and Red Sox won’t happen anymore. It’s going to get tougher to get hands on top young talent. I’d rather see the Yankees blow 130 million on Darvish and this guy together than give CJ Wilson 90 million.

    The Yankees have nothing in the upper levels when it comes to OF’ers. This would be a good signing if the scouts liked him simply because if he arrives quickly, they can deal Swisher or Gardner (preferably Swisher) for a pitcher. If he takes a year of seasoning at AA/AAA so be it. We have a hole in the OF next season. I’m not banking on Kemp making it to free agency as the new Dodger owner will want to build around him.

    There was no good reason the Yankees whiffed on Chapman. With him, Darvish and this guy we’re talking players that would be in the top picks if they were involved in a draft. The Yankees should spend money to get top tier talent they can’t get through the normal process.

    That said, it should come down to how scouts feel about these guys. Not the dollar amount. The Yankees should never be pinching pennies when it comes to available talent. I don’t see them lowering parking, ticket and concession prices in the future.

    If the scouts believe this guy is the real deal I hope they go in hard after him. Same with Darvish if the scouts are sold on him.

    • crawdaddie

      What has Chapman accomplished on the major league level to justified the amount of money the Reds are spending on him?

      • dr mrs the yankee

        Congratulations on completely missing the point.

        • steve (different one)

          How does it miss the point? If chapman is a bust, the yankees didn’t “whiff” on him. They may have correctly decided he wasn’t worth the money. How is this controversial?

          • steve (different one)

            Just to clarify I am not saying Chapman IS a bust already. I am saying maybe the yankees’ scouts did not believe chapman could be an effective starter in mlb. The original poster said there was “no reason” the yankees didn’t sign him. I am saying there may be a very valid reason and chapman has yet to disprove that. If he tops out as a reliever, I don’t think passing was the wrong decision.

            • Joe

              steve – You don’t think a LH reliever who could throw a fastball 100mph would be worth 35 million to the Yankees? Even if he only was a reliever he would be a serious weapon they would never have a chance to draft. And we don’t know if the Yankees could have developed him differently than the Reds. If that guy ever turns out to be a starter with his stuff he’s worth 5x his contract. That said if Yankees scouts didn’t love him I’m cool with that. I just don’t want to hear the Yankees are pinching pennies in the International market since that is their biggest advantage over their competitors. They’re money and brand recognition are major strengths and they should embrace that and grab these kind of guys if they scout well. I just don’t like when scouting decisions are made based on money requirements. If they believe Darvish is major league starter they should grab him. Same with this OF. If they don’t, they should pass.

              • Ted Nelson

                Not signing one guy is not necessarily pinching pennies. That you can sign a guy doesn’t necessarily mean you should.

                The Yankees have the same relative advantage with MLB FAs. Doesn’t mean they should or will sign Pujols, Fielder, CJ, Papelbon, Buehrle, and EJax all this off-season. Or Crawford, Werth, Dunn, etc. last off-season.

                Chapman can justify a $30 million deal as a reliever, but he hasn’t so far. He walked almost a guy per inning last season (not one intentionally).

                “If they believe Darvish is major league starter they should grab him.”

                Roy Halladay is a MLB starter, Kyle Lohse is an MLB starter, and Kevin Correia is an MLB starter… Doesn’t mean their values are all the same. Doesn’t mean all are worth $100 million.

    • Rookie

      I agree with 90% of what you said, Joe. But why not sign this guy and trade Granderson and Swisher?

      Again, in Cashman I trust. Hopefully the Steinbrenners will, too.

      • Ted Nelson

        “But why not sign this guy and trade Granderson and Swisher?”

        Because “this guy” has proven nothing at the MLB level.

        “Again, in Cashman I trust.”

        I will bet you anything you’d like that Cashman will not trade Granderson AND Swisher to replace with Yoenis. How does it even begin to make sense to replace two players that play different positions with one player?

    • Bryan

      Darvish, Chapman, Cepedes might be top picks talent wise, but they want to, and will get paid like free agents. At some point, the cost (financial & risk) to benefit relationship should price even the Yankees out.

  • jake

    Why sign this guy when you can stand pat and get kemp next year who is probably younger at 28 than this supposedly 26 year old. Not to mention more proven

    • Xstar7

      Simple. Cespedes has a has a sexier sounding name.

    • Joe

      jake – I’m not certain Kemp makes it to free agency. Whoever wins the Dodger bid will have deep pockets and want to keep their franchise player.

    • Holy Ghost

      No guarantee that we’ll get Kemp but we can sign Cespedes and still have plenty of money to sign Kemp…

  • Chris

    This just might be the smoke screen that teams need if they really covet Darvish. Interesting how it plays out. If and when Darvish is posted, he might wait until Cespedes signs first and vice versa.

  • JoeyA

    If a player’s age is found to be falsified, are ML contracts automatically voided?

    Reason I ask: This kid looks closer to 30 than 26, though he still has obvious signs of power, athleticism, and skills.

  • Chad Gaudin the Friendly Ghost

    Few things:

    First, you can start the video @ 2:21 and stop watching @ 15:58 if you want to skip all the garbage.

    Second, someone is going to find out what it would be like to have Ray Lewis play in the outfield for them this year. That dude was freaky.

    Third, I hope, whether he’s a Yankee or not, the first time he stops to watch a home run like he did early in the video the first pitch of the next at bat goes right between his shoulder blades (and then the pitcher runs for his life to the clubhouse). That was lame.

  • Holy Ghost

    Cespedes will likely cost a lot less than Darvish because there won’t be a posting fee of 30 to 40 million…

  • Yu aint Matsuzaka

    If & when talent like this is available you gotta roll the dice every time.

  • dr mrs the yankee

    I loved watching Cespedes during the WBC a few years back. Pure talent. Sadly I am not optimistic about the Yankees being very in on him given recent history. It’s a shame because this is exactly the type of situation where they should be leveraging their money.

  • gc

    Yes I would agree that “Sailing” by Christopher Cross is definitely Not Safe For Work. Or anywhere for that matter. Seriously, wtf were they thinking?? LOL

  • BK2ATL

    If all it would cost to sign him would be 6 years @ $30 million total for a potential corner outfield, possibly CF, why not take the chance?

    It wouldn’t cost us the $150 million that it will to sign Kemp, IF he gets to free agency. Nor would we lose a draft pick. We just easily ate Igawa’s $30 million deal. We have no true upper-level OF in the farm system. Swisher’s deal ends after 2012. I want no part of Beltran at this stage.

    I mean, the video is certain impressive. However, I’d like to see him against MLB-level talent before taking the dive. Maybe the DR winter league. Maybe Venezuela, although I doubt he’d go there, with Chavez and Castro being close. Maybe even the Arizona winter league.

    Do extensive research, call El Duque and Contreras in for some background. It all checks out, take a shot and sign him with a AAA clause, to get him into the system and see what he really can do. Might be a bust, might be a steal.

  • Pete Law

    Wanted: Upper Level Outfield Depth
    Have: The Ability to Print Money

    Sign him and see what you can get. Same with Darvish. If all it takes is money to gamble on a top talent than why not. Yanks can afford to make a mistake here and there (see: Igawa, Kei).

    “El Talento” doesn’t have to play in the Bronx right away.

  • DM

    The Yanks are thin when it comes to OF prospects. Heathcott seems like an injury prone punk — and Williams is too far off to tell. And Zolio Almonte seems like a 2nd tier guy to me. So, pursuit of this guy makes sense.

    But help me out here. When I watch this guy’s ABs in the video his swing reminds me a lot of someone playing today — but I can’t think of who it is.

    • tomaconda

      I thought Sosa

      • DM

        Good call. That might be it. There’s something about his opposite field swing — he kinda does a Sosa-esque lunge-n-dive across the outer half.

  • Hall and Nokes

    If nothing else, this guy is an anagramist’s dream.

    • pat


  • BK2ATL

    FWIW, and not sure where to put this, but since we’re talking about OF, Melky Cabrera just brought back Jonathan Sanchez of the Giants.

    The end.

  • Holy Ghost

    The Yanks could spend 30 million on this guy and still be able to sign Kemp(if he becomes a free agent).

  • UncleArgyle

    If this guy is legitimate, the Washington Nationals should be doing any and everything in their power to nab this kid. They desperately need a CFer, and the best option on the FA market is CoCo freaking Crisp….

    • Sam

      I kind of figured the Nats would go after Sizemore. Though this guy seems like the perfect fit for them if he’s for real.

  • Ted Nelson

    I don’t see the Yankees going as high as a team that really needs offense/CF help, but maybe if they really love him they’ll just go for it.

    • Rookie

      In Cashman I trust. (In Levine, not so much…)

    • Holy Ghost

      They’ll certainly need outfield help after next season(or during the next season if someone gets hurt).

      He’s cheap enough for them to roll the dice…

      • Ted Nelson

        That he’s an attractive guy to scout and make an offer for doesn’t mean they HAVE TO outbid every team for him. They might, but they aren’t nearly as desperate for offense as all but one or two other teams. Just like they let Chapman pass them by despite needing pitching, it’s more likely Yoenis signs with any of the 29 other MLB clubs than the Yankees.

        • Ted Nelson

          Any of them meaning whichever of them, not each one individually. More likely he doesn’t sign with the Yankees than that he does.

        • Holy Ghost

          They certainly aren’t desperate for offense ‘now’ but they will likely have to make some decisions regarding the outfield after the 2012 season because of Granderson and Swisher’s contracts ending and Kemp possibly becoming a free agent.

          Sign the kid and put him in Scranton to start next season. If he mashes, call him up or start him in the outfield in 2013. It definitely seems like a low risk/high reward type of scenario.

          • Ted Nelson

            Again… that they would like to have the kid (assuming that they do) doesn’t mean they should go out and offer whatever it takes to outbid every other team. There are RF out there not named Yoenis Cespedes. They can’t just sign every available player, and have to make tough choices on which ones to sign for how much.

            “Sign the kid and put him in Scranton to start next season.”

            How can you say this without mentioning the contract? Sign him! For $10 mill? For $30 mill? For $50 mill?

            “It definitely seems like a low risk/high reward type of scenario.”

            In what world is $30 mill low risk? If you haven’t scouted the guy extensively, it’s pretty hard to argue with someone who has. At the end of the day you might turn out right, but the odds are against you since their opinion is actually based on something. They also actually know something about their own budget and how signing him will impact their ability to do other things: the opportunity cost of signing him. Perhaps he’s worth it to them, perhaps he’s not.

            • Holy Ghost

              “In what world is $30 mill low risk?”

              6 yrs for $30 million is a low risk even for teams not named the Yankees.

              Much lower in contrast to spending 17 million a season for Darvish

              • Ted Nelson

                It’s low risk if they’re getting something good. Based on a youtube video and an article I’m not ready to say Yoenis is good. If you’ve scouted him extensively, I’d be interested to hear your take. Otherwise, I’ll let the Yankees’ FO make the call on what he’s worth.

                $5 mill per is a big risk if you only think you’re getting a replacement level CF. If you buy the hype it’s not a big risk.

  • thj777

    Any alternate links? Video was removed

  • Jumpin’ Jack Swisher

    Cespedes: Cuban
    Darvish: Not Cuban
    Me: Cuban

    Cespedes wins.

    In all seriousness, though, if the team thinks he’s worth it, they’ll make an appropriate offer. 90% of the commenters had never heard of this guy before this post, and now it’s a “must” the team sign him. :)

    • BK2ATL

      By no means do I do think he’s a “must” sign. However, doing due diligence might suggest future action on him, esp. at that price.

      As I stated above and we all know at this time, Swisher’s contract is up after 2012. Kemp might or might not hit FA, and if he does, it will be for a lot of money. We have no high-end OF prospects at our top farm levels. A decision will have to be made on OF very soon.

      This kid is just that intriguing. Who knows?

      • Jumpin’ Jack Swisher

        I’m sure he’s intriguing. We’ll see where it goes.

        Remember how the Yankees got to their current outfield, though. What will be the right fix once Swisher leaves (if he does) is more likely to fall somewhere in between Matt Kemp and someone immediately identifiable in their minor league system.

        • BK2ATL


          I’d love to see where Mason Williams is in 2 years. If he lives up to his potential and Grandy’s still raking, Gardner might be expendable in the very near future.

          While I like Kemp, as does other everyone else, if he hits FA, it’s gonna be Crawford-like numbers. Not sure I want to do that on an OF.

          To me, that’s why this Cespedes kid is intriguing.

          Worse comes to worst, we re-sign Swisher???

  • Rookie

    Trade Granderson and Swisher (maybe picking up a bit of his contract) and pick up AJ (picking up $8 million of his contract) — or a couple of minor league pitchers not named Banuelos or Betances, if that’s what the SF prefers — to SF for Lincecum. I think SF would be much more likely to make the postseason after that trade than before and, if the Yankees pick up Cespedes (and someone else to replace Swisher — which I don’t think should exactly be a Herculean task) I think the Yankees would be a much more fearsome team in the postseason. One thing you would know is that Swisher’s replacement in the postseason couldn’t do worse. Even if they just left that spot in the batting order vacant…

    • Mike Axisa

      Why the hell would the Yankees trade two of their four best hitters and think this guy could replace them?

      • tomaconda

        Arod Teix Cano, Swisher may be top 5 and there is more to winning than offense.

        • Matt


          • tomaconda

            Wow? Who is Swisher better than, Arod? Teixeira? or Cano?

            • Mike Axisa

              Cano, Granderson, Teixeira, that’s all the guys ahead of Swisher. Swisher’s out-hit A-Rod going on three years now, mostly because he can actually stay on the field.

              • tomaconda

                Mike, the two years prior to last Swisher had 100 more plate appearances. Swish 6.2 owar and Arod 8.2 Now Im not saying I advocate the ps3 trade above but to call Swisher one of the 4 best hitters on the team was nuts.

                • Mike Axisa

                  wRC+ last two years…

                  Cano – 137
                  Granderson – 131
                  Swisher – 127
                  Teixeira – 125
                  A-Rod – 124
                  Gardner – 111
                  Jeter – 98

                  • tomaconda

                    Because Arod was hurt last year does not make Swisher a better hitter. By that logic Lackey is a better pitcher than Strasburg. Safe to say Swisher had 1 better season than Arod.

                    • Ted Nelson

                      Top 4 vs. top 5 is really splitting hairs…

                    • Bryan

                      Comparing 2 years of production is a lot better than 1 year. I doubt Mike was comparing talent levels either, just production over that time span, and likely production moving forward.

                    • JAG

                      If A-Rod can’t play due to injury, Swisher’s A- level production is automatically better than A-Rod’s A level production.

                      I don’t think Mike was saying Swisher is a more talented or a better career player, but right now A-Rod’s health and consistency can’t be counted on and Swisher’s can.

    • Ted Nelson


    • Soriano Is A Liar

      Don’t say nothing could be worse. Would yo prefer a batter that goes 0 for 25 with 24 GIDP and a triple play?

      • Mike Axisa

        Cano’s first your years in the playoffs were worse than Swisher’s.

    • Sarah

      Wait, let me see if I have this…

      The Giants will get Granderson, Swisher AND AJ? And replace Lincecum in the rotation with AJ?

      Even Brian Sabean hangs up the phone on that deal.

    • BK2ATL

      Damn the farm system, you want to blow up the Yankees’ strong outfield, in exchange for Lincecum and this kid who’s completely unproven in MLB?

      Since you’ve given away our MVP candidate CF and our RF, who’s gonna to play RF in your scenario, if presumably Cespedes would play CF? Or based on his “video,” you have him playing both CF and RF, since he’s Superman?????

      Also, why would the Giants take on an additional approx. $20 million in salary in 2012 for letting Lincecum go?

      • Sarah

        Obviously the team will roll with a 2 man outfield of Gardner and Cespedes.

        Lincecum will just have to strike out everyone. No balls in play allowed.

        • tomaconda

          Montero to RF and Sign Prince to DH


          • Sarah

            No, Pujols to RF!

            • tomaconda

              Forgot him…Montero to ss then.

    • Jumpin’ Jack Swisher

      Your trade proposal….you know.

  • Matt Bertelli

    If someone has a link to the video that will work please post it, otherwise I will assume that the video is much like this video:

  • BK2ATL

    FYI, the Yanks supposedly held a private workout with Yoenis Cespedes today, claims Baseball America’s Ben Badler.

    Make of it what you will.