Oct
30

Report: Dodgers open to trading Andre Ethier

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Via Buster Olney: The Dodgers are open to the idea of trading Andre Ethier this offseason. They’re probably looking to create some roster and payroll flexibility moving forward after that blockbuster deal with the Red Sox.

Ethier, 30, would make a lot of sense for the Yankees and their right field opening had he not just signed a five-year, $85M extension this summer. Add in the fact that he can’t hit lefties and is good for one or two DL trips per year, and I don’t see much of a fit here unless Los Angeles eats a significant chunk of the salary. Rather than trade for Ethier and absorb his contract, the Yankees could just re-sign Nick Swisher — the superior player both offensively and defensively — for (likely) less money and plug the outfield hole that way.

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League

63 Comments»

  1. Blake says:

    LA has to trade Ethier so they can give Hamilton 200 million

    • 0 for infinity and beyond says:

      That does seem to be who they would want. When you look at the big picture the Either @ $85 for 5 yrs might not be as bad as the contract Hamilton gets and what he actually produces.

  2. jjyank says:

    Meh. I’d really prefer a non-platoon option.

  3. Blake says:

    If I wanted a RFer who can’t hit lefties at all Id rather trade for Choo…..unless of course LA wanted to take Arods contract to make a deal

  4. Dino says:

    Would you do A-rod for Ethier straight up?

    • Blake says:

      Heck yea cause Ethier is only 30 and you’d save about 30 million on that swap if it was straight up…..Ethier can’t hit lefties at all but he mashes RHP.

      • MannyGeee says:

        Plus you could theoretically plug the 3B hole easier in the short & long term right on the roster. MacGehee/Nunez “could” be that guy. Counterpoint: You could say the same with RF (Dickerson).

        Reality being, all three are fringe Major League players that would do in a pinch. None of the 3 are long term solutions (unless Nunez magically learns how to play an A-Rod level infield or Dickerson finds his stroke in the majors finally…)

        • 0 for infinity and beyond says:

          I can’t believe it took this long for a “Nunez to 3B” comment :)

          • MannyGeee says:

            I tried to sneak him in under the Macgehee wire there…

            For the record, I was not condoning it, just saying he could fill that void. That is what fringe guys like him are around for, fill the hole for the starter, whether they are out for injury or salary dump trade.

            • 0 for infinity and beyond says:

              I know, I’m only busting balls. I see the Nunez to 3b in every single thread now. It’s my own little “Where’s Waldo Game”

              • MannyGeee says:

                Yeah, I called people out on this last week, something along the lines of “guy hits one triple and a homer against Verlander, and everyone forgets they wanted to plant dead hookers in his trunk back in May…”

        • Blake says:

          Adams maybe…..or you could try to trade for Headley or Mike Olt or somebody

          • 0 for infinity and beyond says:

            The Yankees really don’t have the chips to get either of those guys for 3B.

            • Blake says:

              I think they do….now whether they’d trade what it would take I don’t know

              • 0 for infinity and beyond says:

                I think anything the Yankees have worth trading is too far away to help Texas or San Diego. If you look at the Major league roster I don’t even think a David Robertson or Phil Hughes gets it done.

                • Blake says:

                  San Diego isn’t close to competing so they wouldn’t need all big league ready talent…..now Texas would because they obviously are competitive…..perhaps they’d have interest in Granderson to replace Hamilton? Grandy for Olt….. Id do that…..Olt is blocked by beltre so I dunno maybe they would…..Cash needs to get creative

                  • MannyGeee says:

                    “Let me give you this expensive guy who strikes out alot for just 1 season, and in exchange you give me that 3B you have on your bench that you could probably get more for” =/= “getting creative”.

                    meanwhile, I could see them trading Olt + an arm for Ethier + money to replace Hamilton. Not the same bat, but hes an answer for many seasons.

                    • Blake says:

                      Olt isn’t a star prospect…..he’s a top 50 guy ….he’s not Profar…..Granderson is a 40 homer CFer who does K a lot but also is only a year removed from an MVP level season. Doesn’t mean they’d do it….but it’s not crazy IMO for either side

                    • MannyGeee says:

                      expensive guy for one season for a young guy with control left, ML ready that the Yankees can use? Doesnt have to be a stud prospect for this to make little sense for the Rangers.

                  • 0 for infinity and beyond says:

                    No way the Rangers give Olt away for 1 yr of Granderson at $15 mil. We see it all the time, teams want players they can control or players that make a big impact. Curtis Granderson is not a big impact/game changer type player. He’s a good player getting paid very well who is 1 yr away from being a free agent. That won’t get you Olt.

                    And the Padres aren’t about to trade their best player for a bunch of guys in A-Ball.

                    • Blake says:

                      Granderson was an impact guy in 2011….and he did hit 40 and drive in 100 this year which not too many players did…..Olt is a good prospect but he’s not a top 10 guy…..hes actually ranked lower on some lists than gary Sanchez and Mason Williams and hes blocked by Beltre. the rangers want to win now…..

                      Also I didn’t say they’d trade Headley for a bunch of A ball guys…..I said ago dont think they’d need all no league ready talent for him as they aren’t competive right now…..the Yanks would probably have to deal off the big league roster and also give from that good group in A ball

    • 0 for infinity and beyond says:

      I would but I’m not 100% sure the Dodgers or A-Rod would…

  5. Henry says:

    Arod for Andre

  6. MannyGeee says:

    that is a TON of scratch for someone of Andre Ethier’s non-caliber… That is Matt Kemp money

  7. Joe F says:

    Nah if he’s worse than Swisher and costs more then why bother?

  8. jjyank says:

    The real question on everyone’s mind though, is this:

    How much does Ethier smile?

  9. Andy says:

    How about A-rod for Either and the Yanks put in enough $$ to even it out? I would think NY would have to do it.

    Either 31-35 > A-rod 37-42

    • jjyank says:

      I’d rather have A-Rod and look for a RF than Ethier and look for a 3B, if all the money is the same.

    • Joe F says:

      If they want Hamilton though this doesn’t make sense.

      • Andy says:

        True, the Dodgers don’t save any money, which is what they’re probably trying to do. I was looking at it from the NY point of view.

    • MannyGeee says:

      So now instead of overpaying Ethier $17M, you will essentially overpay Ethier $25M? Just to move A-Rod, who happened to be the scapegoat for the 2012 playoffs (not the WORST player this past October, just the lightening rod).

      That seems like bad math, no matter how much you want to ship A-Rod out of town…

  10. DC says:

    I’m waiting for Eddard to propose an Arod to LA, Ethier to the Giants, and Scutaro to NY trade.

  11. Tom says:

    Why are people saying he is so much worse than swisher? hes averaged .285 and 22 homers over the last 4 years, swisher over the last 4, .267 and 26 homers. also keep in mind that the homerun numbers would rise for eithier going from dodger stadium to yankee stadium especially because hes lefty

    • Blake says:

      He’s not worse than Swisher really …. Just a little different….Ethier is downright horrible against Lefties and he’s a pretty bad defender as well (not that Swisher is great)……

      but Ethier does kill RHP though which would be valuable but you really would need a good RH outfield bat ideally to go with him…..

      Id rather trade for Choo as he’s a better defender and you don’t have the contract to deal with

      • MannyGeee says:

        Not “worse” than Swisher… just “not better” is all…

        But the sticking point for me (besides that shit platoon split) is the injury history. Swisher flat out doesn’t miss time, and will not get a Crawford/Werth contract (I don’t think, that is)…

  12. Eddard says:

    He’d certainly be an improvement over Swisher, especially in the postseason. If the Dodgers will take ARod off our hands this could be a win win for us. Nuney can handle 3B. We don’t need a superstar at every position, nor can we afford it. Last thread people wanted to upgrade that ever important utility infielder. Remember those late 90s Yankee teams? Luis Sojo was the utility infielder. You don’t need 25 superstars.

    • Cris Pengiucci says:

      He’d certainly be an improvement over Swisher, especially in the postseason.

      You’re basing this on the 73 PAs he has in the post season? While Swisher has been terrible in the post season, this really isn’t justifiable. Ethier could just as easily join the Yankees and go 0-for the post season in his first year in NY as he could be better than Swisher.

    • MannyGeee says:

      “He’d certainly be an improvement over Swisher, especially in the postseason.”

      Comparing the most ridiculous of small sample sizes to an even smaller one…

      Also, how is trading for Ethier match up to “We don’t need a superstar at every position”…

      only in EddardWorld.

  13. Blake says:

    Swisher is a good player but he may also be a real case of someone who just cannot control their emotions well enough to perform in October….. You can try to explain it away with sample size but at some point you have to look at his ABs and how his approach changes and just consider that maybe it’s a real problem……

    • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

      I’d say it’s a real problem, but a correctable one.

      That said, I wouldn’t want to commit to a mega-deal in hopes that he finally figures it out.

  14. rogue says:

    He’ll be 31, Ks too much, has health issues, and is overpaid/overrated. His OPS over the last 2 years is .801. Good, but not great and will decline moving forward.

    OTOH, he’s a lefty power hitter that should be perfect for YS. I mean, that’s the type of player who’s responsible for the team “getting there every year”. So Cash, trade Joseph and Adams for Ethier and re-sign Cano to a ludicrous contract in the process. That way, the Yankees can continue “getting there”!

  15. King of Fruitless Hypotheticals says:

    How many people said “Arod for Ethier straight up”?

  16. Hardy says:

    I don’t really believe in 189 in 2014. I think Ethier may be a really good option if there is no hard budget.
    During the last five years he played at least 135 and his lowest wRC+ was 122. If he is used less against LHP, his rate stats will look even better.

  17. Mike Cutler says:

    Mike saying Nick Swisher is superior to Andre Either makes me question even reading ur blogs anymore bro. If you want to do this stuff for a living you better get your head out of your ass. Nick Swisher is a BUM. Andre Either has gotten more big hits than Nick Swisher will ever have. How bout the single he let drop 3 feet in front of him to score a run in a playoff game… He has no ice water in his veins, another Arod we don’t need more of that….

    • AnthonyD says:

      I also read that when Oct rolls around, Swish pees in the clubhouse coffee after the WB Mason guy delivers it. Is there any aspect of his game that’s not overrated?

    • Barbara Booey says:

      Exactly my sentiments. Why did it take about 50 responses before reading one which questioned Axisa’s premise in the first place. Ethier is hands-down the better overall player than Swisher. To say otherwise is idiotic.

      Of course, Axisa would point to some stat showing Swisher’s overall offensive / defensive WAR totals, etc. Funny how an argument can be made about Ethier not having value because he is hurt so much…yet when he talks about A-fraud, he never brings up the fact that he is nothing but a part-time player, and hasn’t played close to a full season in FIVE seasons.

      Axisa’s arguments are undermined by the cozy relationship between YES and RAB. Don’t be fooled people. This blog is nothing but a mouthpiece for certain people in the organization. Take it for what it’s worth.

      • AnthonyD says:

        Why would someone within the Yankees organization go out of their way to praise Swisher when every indication points to them not retaining him? Swisher has outperformed Ethier over the past several years and it hasn’t been that close. If your argument is Ethier has out-hit Swisher, from the left side, than you may be on to something and there is some validity to that. But honestly, if you hate advanced analysis and statistics, why even read RAB?

  18. Chad Gaudin the Friendly Ghost says:

    “Ethier, 30, would make a lot of sense for the Yankees and their right field opening had he not just signed a five-year, $85M extension this summer. Add in the fact that he can’t hit lefties and is good for one or two DL trips per year…”

    IOW, Ethier would be a great fit for the Yankees if he were a totally different player.

  19. jim says:

    Bring back swisher? flush this article down the toilet

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