Jan
01

Tuesday Night Open Thread

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So, how has 2013 been treating you so far? Any of you manage to break one of your resolutions yet? I’ve come close, but give me until the end of the week.

Here’s your open thread for the night. The Knicks are playing and that’s pretty much it. Talk about whatever you like. Go nuts.

Categories : Open Thread
  • MannyGeee

    2013 has been an absolute mess so far. Nothing too drastic, just annoying as hell.

    I shit you not, my furnace started leaking uncontrollably at 1:00AM. 60 minutes into 2013, couldn’t get there with this equipment. Spent the day plumbing and Home Depoting and soldering and all that annoying stuff. I know, first world problems…

    /rant

    • Jacob

      Not to mention that I cut your septic line 5 minutes ago, should notice it in an hour.

    • Laz

      2012 was pretty bad for me. I have very high hopes 2013 better.

  • kenthadley

    Has anyone heard if NYY are serious about Aledmys Diaz?

    • MannyGeee

      I would be afraid if they are. This screams “Kei Igawa” after they didn’t get serious about Cespedes, who, by the way would have been a legit answer for this outfield and the 2014 budget).

      • Jacob

        Oh but MG you know how hard everyone would have ridden him if he performed as poorly as he did in the beginning?

        • MannyGeee

          oh absolutely. it would have been a shitstorm.

          That said, all told Cespedes has turned into a nice servicible outfielder.

          • Jacob

            Yoenis the menace

          • Havok9120

            We can’t do “all told” yet. It’s been one season.

            I don’t THINK he’ll take a massive step backwards into mediocrity, but it’s not like such a thing is totally out of the question.

            • RetroRob

              Right, and he still costs $9M a year. It’s not like he’s making MLB minimum. It was a risk for the A’s but would have been more of an issue for the Yankees as they head into 189M.

              It’s also as easy as can be to look back after the fact and pick the right moves. Obviously, all 30 teams would have paid for Cespedes if they knew. The A’s took the risk.

      • RetroRob

        Aledmys Diaz is a SS, so I don’t quite see the Cespedes connection. (The other player is the OFer.) It really comes down to how much he’ll cost and what do the evaluators think of his ability.

    • Philip

      Has anyone heard if NYY are serious about 2013?

  • Dan

    Cone was a master with the baseball. Just great to watch pitch. Not too many guys could manipulate the ball and add and subtract like he could. Just fantastic to watch

    • YankeesJunkie

      As one of the newer fans, around 2004, I never had to opportunity to watch Cone, but Mussina, especially his final year was probably the most enjoyable pitcher to watch in a long time with what he was throwing.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Definitely worth it to go back and watch Cone in action. Just a true professional through and through, and a guy equally loved by Yankee and Met fans, which is pretty rare.

      • trr

        I’m also a Moose fan…did any other pitchers ever walk away after winning 20???

  • jjyank

    Ohhh man, does that game bring back memories. I was 10 years old, just a week shy of being 11. I had anointed David Cone as my favorite starting pitcher after 1996. My favorite pitcher of all time was and is Mo, so that’s no knock on Coney. Watching your favorite SP throw a perfect game when you’re that young…that’s how die-hard fans are made.

    Also nice to see Bernie out in CF. He is my favorite overall player at the time. Still have a poster of his in my closet. I realize “still have” might sound a bit ridiculous to the older commenters here, but it seems so long ago for me.

    • Jacob

      The 90’s dynasty was a great group of guys. It saddens me everytime I see those highlights because it reminds me how none of those guys were ever really flashy superstars or assholes. They all went out each and every day as teammates, and brothers, all with the goal of being the last team standing at the end of each season. Even Yankee haters have to respect those teams.

    • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

      Starting with Dwight Gooden’s no hitter and then David Wells and David Cones perfect games, not to mention the world series championships, the 90s were damn good to Yankees fans.

      • Get Phelps Up

        It sucks being too young to really appreciate those teams. Especially the 1998 team.

        • Jacob

          If you really look into the history of the teams, watch highlights, read in depth etc. about them you might not have been old enough to watch them but you can still appreciate them and understand what happened and really love it. That is what I did

    • BigLoving

      I am 27 now and entrenched in a baseball or die type of family so I am thankful I got to truly appreciate that dynasty. I felt the heart break of 95….actually remember going to bed as quick as I could after Griffey scored that winning run bc I didn’t want my parents to see any tears. 96 was just surreal that it actually happened being the underdogs. I loved 97 as well, one of my favorite moments was when O’neil roped one of the wall in the 9th when he could barely walk nonetheless run. Then he made that ridiculous slide into second to give Bernie one more shot to win. Ahhhh those were my favorite years bc of all the heartbreak that led to them playing as good of baseball that I will ever see in my lifetime. I will try to find the article written about O’neil hitting that shot with the crazy slide….my pops has it framed probably one of my favorite articles of all time. I think you all would really enjoy it.

      Happy New Years everyone

  • Now Batting

    Heh I wonder if that pop up at the 2 minute mark would have been out in the new Stadium.

  • Paco

    Great video – two moments still scare me – Ledee nearly dropping that fly ball and Chuck Knoblauch throwing the ball to first (hard to remember that he was once a decent 2B before imploding and being shipped to the OF).

  • Jacob

    My 2nd favorite perfect game, the first is the one this year tha Matt Cain threw on my birthday.

    • bobtaco

      Weird, because this one from Cone was on my 25th birthday ;-)

  • ClayDavis

    They can stop messing with us already. Jokes up. No way this team can be headed into the seqson with such a depleted roster. Right?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      That rotation and bullpen are really shitty……oh, wait…..

      • ClayDavis

        Unfortunately neither can hit

        • Robinson Tilapia

          What would you have said about the Giants’ lineup before they won two championships?

          It’s also still January. Talk to me Opening Day.

          • Cris Pengiucci

            I’m not optimistic that the lineup will be much different come opening day. That being said, you comments about the Giants lineup are spot on. They can win with what they’ve got (plus another solid RH bat).

            • Robinson Tilapia

              The Oakland A’s almost made the playoffs last year. Teams with platoons, supposed lesser players, etc., have been going far and winning championships for years.

              Just get out there, play the goddamn games, and win.

              I think there really is that non-Matt-Dye-az OF and DH fodder coming but, otherwise, I’m not counting on much else.

    • jjyank

      If you think this roster is “depleted”, you should try rooting for another team.

    • Now Batting

      Name three better teams in the AL.

      • MannyGeee

        you’re leading the witness. this is gonna lead to a toronto/Angels suckfest, someone will invitibly say the Yankees have the third or fourth best lineup in the AL EAST, someone will roll George over in his grave… no one wins.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          The other day, a guy with the screen name “Randy Levine is the Enemy” posted to tell us that Randy Levine was, in fact, the enemy.

          • ClayDavis

            I would be fine with their strategy if they had adequate replacements in Scranton or even Trenton. But they don’t. This was not the season to get budget conscious. Listen I hope I’m wrong but this lineup is not impressive.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Well, for everyone’s sanity on here, I hope you’re wrong as well. We’ll see.

              Like I said above, we’ve seen less-then-impressive lineups go further than the Yanks have in the post-season several times. These vets on one-year deals, whether they’re slower now or not, are here because they know what they’re doing. There will have to be some breaks on the offense that go the team’s way, but I don’t think the lineup is as dire as you’re claiming right now.

              Let’s see where we are on Opening Day and, more importantly, let’s watch the games be played.

            • Joba is Einhorn…Einhorn is Joba

              middle of the pack lineup probably, but its not bottom of the barrel..and you can win games with a middle of the pack lineup and great pitching, which they look like they will have…it might get frustrating at times this year, especially when they face a dominant lefty, but with the extra wild cards now, i would still bet that they are playing in october

      • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

        Tigers, Rays, Blue Jays, Angels may not be “better” but they’re all right there in the same conversation though I would hardly call the Yankees roster “depleted”.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Blue Jays could be. Still a question mark to me. Have to go out there and play the games.

          I’m certainly not claiming the Yanks are a clear favorite or anything of that sort but, like you said, they’re in the conversation with Detroit, Tampa, etc.

  • Pistol Pete

    We need a catcher badly. Listened to Jon Heyman and he had no idea why the Yankees passed on Pierzynski. 2013 is going to be dicey enough with Arod’s injury, Swisher and Martin’s power loss, Mo and Jete a year older coming off major injuries and the loss of Soriano. Still wondering if Cashman has one up his sleeve for Upton or Stanton.

    • Pat D

      Here are two good reasons the Yankees didn’t bother with Pierzynski.

      1) He’s not going to come close to repeating his numbers from last year, under any circumstances.

      2) He’s a first rate, complete, utter, pompous stuck up snot-nosed English giant twerp scumbag fuckface dickhead asshole.

      • jjyank

        I was reading a Cracked.com article the other day. And I found my new favorite insult/phrase. Wait for it…

        Twat Waffle.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Now we just need to work this is somewhere. Do we know what dalelama is doing this evening?

          • jjyank

            Jerking off to midget porn in his mom’s basement?

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Alex Rodriguez resents you calling him a midget.

              • jjyank

                Shit, is centaur porn a real thing?

            • turd surfer

              Seriously? Are you any better than a troll right now with that statement. You don’t like the guy. So what. No need to go there even of he does.

              • jjyank

                *shrug*

                Playing their game is fun sometimes.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  I’d argue that they put themselves in that role, but I’m not about to reopen a conversation started at 11:35 PM last night.

          • DC

            Probably having “special time” with his Cameron Diaz sock puppet.

        • Betty Lizard

          Oh jjyank, you are years behind on twatwaffle. That was a staple on Television Without Pity back in the day. It is, however, my personal favorite insult. I consider it unisex, BTW.

          Although I’m awfully fond of fuckknuckle as well.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            I used to religiously read American Idol reviews in TWP back in the day.

          • jjyank

            Very nice. I had previously been using “cock dragon”, but twat waffle might be funnier.

      • Austin Aunelowitzky

        He’s English?

        • Pat D

          No, I started off doing my own thing, but then morphed it into Kevin Kline’s insult of John Cleese in A Fish Called Wanda.

          • Austin Aunelowitzky

            Haha!

      • David

        1) Who the hell cares? If he plays to his career line of .284/.324/.429 he’ll be better than whichever reject from the island of misfit toys we have behind the plate in 2013.

        2) Who the hell cares?

        It’s all moot anyway, but he would have been a great get on a one-year deal. The arguments against signing him have sucked all winter.

        • Get Phelps Up

          As an age 36 catcher there’s a good chance he will be worse than his career line. Also he’s a bad defender behind the plate. And the fact that he’s an asshole shouldn’t be ignored, especially considering the fact that the Yankees have several young pitchers that he’d be working with.

          • forensic

            Exactly, and given their emphasis on character guys in the last few years (which I think in general is a good thing) it’s not surprising in the least that they didn’t go after him.

        • Pat D

          Get Phelps Up and forensic basically told you what.

          • David

            No way man.

            There’s a chance he’ll be worse than his career line, yes. There’s also a chance he’ll be better. Even if he’s below his career line he’ll be better than what NYY puts out in 2013 and that’s the comparison that matters. Does anyone really not believe that his offensive production won’t be leaps and bounds ahead of Cervelli/Stewart/Romine?

            His asshole-ishness didn’t keep the Sox from winning the WS in 05. Gary Sheffield was an asshole and he gave us a few great years. Reggie Jackson was a supreme asshole and left New York with two rings. He’s a catcher, not your boyfriend. I don’t care if he’s a schmuck as long as he produces.

  • Horizonal Pinstripe

    Brett Gardner > Ricky Ledee
    Cano > Knoblauch
    Youkillis/A Rod > Brosius
    ’13 Jeter Tino
    Girardi > Cervelli/Romine/Stewart
    O’Neil > Ichiro
    Bernie > Granderson

    • Now Batting

      ’99 Jeter > ’13 Jeter drastically, even if he has a good year.

      • Jacob

        Should have won MVP, Fuck Pudge

        • jjyank

          Same in 06, fuck Morneau.

          • Jacob

            I thought he was more valuable to the team this year than cano tbh. But I understand why he had less votes

  • Jersey Joe

    Apparently BoSox are looking at Bobby Abreu. As a lefty DH until ARod gets back, would it be reasonable to sign him to a Miguel Tejada type deal that the Royals used yesterday?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      MiLB with invite to Spring Training and a wall anxiety reducing hypnotist.

      • Andy Pettitte’s Fibula (formerly Manny’s BanWagon)

        No hypnotist can cure the kind of yellow that Abreu has.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Fine, one for Sterling so he doesn’t call him “EL COMEDUUUUULCE!”

    • Carmine

      I have very little confidence in his ability to do anything productive anymore. Tejada’s deal practically guarantees him a roster spot, and that’s out of the question.

      The way Boston is run they’ll give him something stupid like 2/20.

      • Carmine

        Kidding of course.

      • MannyGeee

        they’ll give him a guaranteed contract. Cherrington apparantly sucks ass at assembling teams. Especially with all the money in the world and no where to go but up, you would think this would be real real simple for him. but alas, hes fucking it up.

  • Jacob

    So I am really ready to trade S.T.A.T. now

  • ABC

    Coney was so awesome. One of my favorite Yankee pitchers ever.

  • jkiu804

    stinks that the patriots will win the super bowl this year :c … maybe pete abe will tweet that the belicheck-brady patriots are now
    1-4 in superbowls (a la his tweet about arod and his home runs). lol, fat chance that happens.

    • ThatstheMelkyMesaWaysa

      Have you watched them at all? The Patriots get carved up by any team with a halfway decent QB (aside from the Houston game and there’s no way they repeat that). I’d be surprised if they make it to the Super Bowl with their defensive backs and they’re probably the team in the playoffs LEAST likely to win except for Minnesota and Cincy.

      • turd surfer

        I’d bet on Denver but I wouldn’t count New England out completely. It only takes one big play on defense or special teams to tilt the odds. Schaub didn’t look good against a meh Indy defense so I don’t think NE could contain Peyton at all.

        I just wish NE didn’t have a bye. They can win two games in a row in the AFC playoffs. I’d put money they couldn’t do 3 though.

      • Horizonal Pinstripe

        Beat Peyton and the Broncos early this year at home.

        • turd surfer

          The Cardinals beat Brady in New England earlier this year too. Things change. This is a different Peyton team than earlier in the season. You can go through the season and find teams that you wouldn’t put a nickel on to recreate a win.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I wonder how many people I’ve never seen before will magically show up at my gym tomorrow…..and never be seen again by March.

    • Get Phelps Up

      March? You’re too kind.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        This is just as my gym introduced online signup for classes, which would be otherwise fine but I already couldn’t get into a spin class when I tried to sign up with more than 24 hours notice. I already go homicidal enough when the NY resolution crowd takes up every single cardio machine.

        A friend of mine corrected me on FB when I complained a few years back and said that their weekend warrior selves still pay the same fee and probably keep my fee from going up. I guess they’re right.

        Stay off my elliptical, though.

  • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

    I read Calico Joe today by Grisham and put a dent in The Greatest Generation. Turns out my resolution is to read more in 2013. For today anyway. Happy new year.

  • Pistol Pete

    Just watched MLB”s top 50 blasts of 2012. Giancarlo Stanton had 5 and the furthest at 494. Ft. He’s 23 and has freakish power. Cashman has to find a way.

    • forensic

      I’m sure Cashman would love to have him, but there are two sides to every trade and 28 other teams in baseball. It’s not that simple.

      And either way, it’s not like he doesn’t have some warts in his game too.

  • johnnybk

    I was in the second row behind third base for that game. One of the happiest days of my life.