Martin: Yankees still looking for outfield help

Fan Confidence Poll: March 18th, 2013
2013 Season Preview: The Aces

Via Dan Martin: Brian Cashman confirmed the Yankees continue to look for outfield help even after signing Ben Francisco and Brennan Boesch last week. “I’m open,” said the GM. “Gene Michael taught me to sift through the nuggets and separate the gold from the rest of the debris. We’re trying to get as much sifting as we can get and hopefully run into some gold.”

Given yesterday’s release of Matt Diaz and various minor league assignments, the Yankees are down to three veterans (Francisco, Boesch, Juan Rivera) and two semi-prospects (Melky Mesa and Ronnie Mustelier) for two outfield spots (left and backup). Rivera could make the team as a part-time first baseman in the wake of Mark Teixeira‘s injury, plus Mustelier offers some versatility as well. Outside of Casper Wells, there’s no obvious outfield help that looks likely to become available in the next week or two.

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Fan Confidence Poll: March 18th, 2013
2013 Season Preview: The Aces
  • YOENIS CESPEDES

    Could have had YOENIS CESPEDES $36 million for 4 years. 9 million per season for a 20 hr guy 80 rbis and a very good obp%. If that’s wasn’t a cheap upgrade for Swisher….Oh well I’m sure they can find something at the local homeless shelter or soup kitchen.

    • jsbrendog

      o a k t a g

      i know. but it was soooo appropriate.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Sing it loud, sing it proud.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Did you use “Google Translate” on that, Yoenis?

    • Bob Buttons

      Yes, we definitely should have signed the semi-unproven then-26 year old(?) Cuban whom we cannot find a spot for in the Majors. Oh well I guess we had to settle for Ibanez, Swisher and Granderson.

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        It actually would have been a smart move in hindsight. Cespedes would have played LF, Swisher RF and Ibanez DH last year plus theyd have a much better replacement than Ichiro for RF this year.

        • Bob Buttons

          Yes but remember Gardner was our only speed guy, playing in LF. He was injured long after Cespedes signed.
          An OF of Gardner, Granderson and Swisher isn’t exactly something you’d use 9 mil a year to upgrade from. Plus the Yankees would have rather spent an extra 4 mil a year for a known quantity in Swish if they didn’t have a budget in mind. DH wasn’t an option since they were going with a rotating DH system.

          Besides, if they had the cash they should have bid on Darvish not Cespedes.

          As a side note, does anyone know when’s the last time the Yankees had an IFA OF accumulate more than 3 WAR for us?

          • Manny’s BanWagon

            Yes and no. Investing $40 million on the 33 year old to be Swisher is something the Yankees probably didn’t want to do just like like they’re gonna likely let Grandy walk after this year rather than signing him to a long extension when he’s gonna be 33 next year too.

            They could have found a role for Cespedes for a year. They are alway injuries as we saw last year and this year.

            • trr

              In my pre-RAB days roaming the wilderness, I was screamimg for them to sign Cespedes. Admittedly, it was a bit of a risk at the time, requiring that most elusive front office quality: vision. Let’s be honest and say we made a mistake on this one. Water under the bridge now, and we’ll have to piece this team together as best we can ’til some of the big bats return. Our pitching must be our strength now.

        • Cris Pengiucci

          Yes, in hindsight, due the Gardner injury they had no way of predicting, he would have been very useful last year. I did, however, feel at the salary he was paid, he would have been a good longer term move, as we all anticipated Swsher would be leaving after last season. Cespedes was good in his first season. Let’s see how he looks going forward now, and see if we’re singing the same tune next off-season. (I suspect we will be.)

          • Manny’s BanWagon

            Agreed

            The A’s thought enough of him to give him that deal and the Yankees are in a far, far better position to gamble $36 million than the A’s are.

    • MannyGeee

      Troll Level: Expert!

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        He actually has a legitimate point before he got carried away with the soup kitchen business.

  • jsbrendog

    spitballin – may be stupid, but:

    is there a rule 5 guy out there somewhere that a team is considering returning we can trade $50k for like matt hoffman from a couple yrs ago and give him a chance?

    • Ageless Male

      Jamie Hoffman. Only his closest friends call him Mstt.

      • jsbrendog

        right right my bad. matt hoffman is the bmx dude right? haha

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Wasn’t he in “Tootsie?”

          • jsbrendog

            dustin hoffman hahaha

            • Greg

              rather have Abbie Hoffman. Better access to drugs.

            • King of Fruiltless Hypotheticals

              no Dustin Hoffman plays 2B for the Mariners…

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      Not sure but I doubt said player could be any worse than the fab 5 Mike mentioned above. Anythings worth a shot at this point.

  • Eddard

    There’s just nothing better than Boesch out there and Granderson won’t be out too long. Not one top prospect should be sacrificed for a 3-4 week fill in. People have been bashing these guys before they even play a regular season game. Give them a chance to show what they can do and then go from there.

    • Preston

      I doubt they do anything. Boesch will probably get the nod in RF and Rivera at 1B. Mesa and Mustelier waiting in the wings if/when they fail.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Cashman with the correct answer – in situations like this, you don’t stop seeing where you can upgrade. I’m feeling fine with Boesch and, probably, Mesa at this point.

    Would like to see some similar attention paid to the corner infield position, at this point, not that they’re probably not doing so already.

    • MannyGeee

      I am gonna take this one further and say you NEVER stop looking for upgrades, not just in situations like this. And Cashman rarely sits pat if there is a better option to reasonably be had.

      • Laz

        Right. There often isn’t a problem searching around and seeing what teams want for a player. Yankees often have had an advantage in this area, because of money. Midseason if all a team wanted was salary relief they could swoop in. Or if there is a player playing in a huge stadium that you think you can get to work the short porch.

  • Bob Buttons

    Wouldn’t hurt to take a look.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    Breaking News . Dan Martin reporting that Cashman is doing what he and every other GM in baseball does pretty much every day of the year.

    There really must be nothing left for these guys to write about till the season starts.

  • mt

    i think they will take Boesch as RF, Rivera (for first) and Mesa as back-up but is Thomas Neal already out of the competition for the back-up?

  • Jim Cavanaugh

    Cespedes was def. the move at the time and exactly what the team needed. A raw, athletically talented and unique player that absolutely would have suited the team’s needs. Passing on Cespedes to this day still ticks me off. As far as OF help, this is insane. Let’s just go w/ what’s on the roster already, these retreads and never will be’s aren’t going to save the Yankees.

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      I Think they’ve gotten way to conservative in the international market since the Igawa debacle. With the CBA screwing them at every turn, I think they need to get more aggressive here again and go after the Cespedes, Soler’s, Chapman’s, Darvish’s and Viciedo’s.

      You’ll have to live with some Irabu’s, Dice K’s and Igawa’s too but nothng ventured, nothing gained.

      • Preston

        Signing rookies to big league contracts that they have a high likelihood of not earning a cent of is not a great strategy to help with the 189 plan.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Fantastic point. Say it again so everyone can hear it.

          • Manny’s BanWagon

            It’s a fantastic point in general though it doesn’t apply to this situation.

            Reading the scouting reports on Cespedes and the reaction after his signing, I don’t recall anyone opining that he had “a high likelihood of not earning a cent”

            • Robinson Tilapia

              If you think back to the comments on here and what we were reading at the time, there was a pretty heavy dose of skepticism.

              I believe the term “Wily Mo Pena” was thrown around by a certain site guru.

              I’m happy for my countryman. Only one team could sign him, and we weren’t that team. Even if we tried our extra-special-hardest, we still may have missed out.

              • Manny’s BanWagon

                I actually don’t remember the Wily Mo Pena references though I’m amazed that he’s still only 31 years old.

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  Crazy, isn’t it?

                  I believe the reference was to the infamous YouTube video and, how, if we’re going to base part of our opinion on that video, remembering that Pena could probably bust out one hell of a YouTube video.

        • Manny’s BanWagon

          Cutting the payroll to $189 is “not a great strategy” either and with the current state of the team, it’s likely a recipe for missing the playoffs for a few years.

    • Preston

      Cespedes isn’t that cheap, for the money I’d just rather have Swisher. 4/56 for a proven veteran is way better than risking 4/36 on a guy who’d never played in the bigs. Even in hindsight after we see what Cespedes became that seems like the good bet to me.

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        Paying Swisher 5 years/$70 million till he’s 37 years old sounds like a pretty bad plan to me too.

    • Laz

      Would have been good, but there was also a chance he turned out to be worthless.

  • Nate

    I bet David DeJesus could be had for a price that is affordable.

  • Chien Ming The Merciless

    I’m still hoping Mesa gets a shot. Seems like he’s been pretty solid in spring training. Yes, I know it’s spring training but I’d like to see the kid get a shot. He’ll at least give us solid defense.

  • Kosmo

    Michael Cuddyer or Matt Adams

    • Mikey

      Travis Snider of the Buc’s can be had for a “B” prospect?

  • Robinson Tilapia

    “Hindsight is 20/20″ was not a phrase that was pulled out of someone’s ass. It actually means something, such as “it made perfect sense to sign the Cuban guy with the YouTube video to big bucks.”

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      Sure hindsight is 20/20 but maybe they need to have better foresight on some of these guys who are turning out to be valuable players rather than watching from the sidelines while teams with far less financial resources cash in.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        How many other teams passed on Cespesdes as well? Everyone could always have better foresight. If foresight was 20/20, you wouldn’t be reading this comment right now. :)

        • Manny’s BanWagon

          A lot of other teams passed on Cespedes. A lot of other teams also don’t have $36 million to throw down on the craps table though while the Yankees certainly do.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Sure they do.

  • LiterallyFigurative

    How about we just play Boesch and Mesa for a month and a half, m’kay?

    There’s nothing wrong with the GM looking for upgrades, but I’m against moving prospects for big salaried vets.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I’m perfectly fine with givign Boesch and Mesa the first shot and adjusting as it goes.

  • MoneyBall Magician A’s

    Bend over Yankees…I got your OF right here…At least we were smart enough to sign him.