Mar
22

Open Thread: 3/22 Camp Notes

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You know these games mean something when #99 is shaking hands after the final out. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)

You know these games mean something when #99 is shaking hands after the final out. (AP/Elise Amendola)

The Yankees beat the Twins this afternoon, but Ivan Nova didn’t pitch all that well (five runs in 5.1 innings). After David Phelps got knocked around last night, I guess it was only fair for Nova to return the favor and keep the fifth starter’s competition close. Eduardo Nunez, Corban Joseph, and Thomas Neal all had two hits while Ronnie Mustelier had three. Robinson Cano and Chris Stewart both doubled as well. Here’s the box score and here’s the rest from Tampa…

  • Derek Jeter took batting practice on the field this morning and his surgically repaired/cortisone shot ankle came through just fine. “It’s a day-to-day thing. Today was here. We’ll see what happens tomorrow,” said the Cap’n. He doesn’t know what the next step is, but Brian Cashman indicated he could play in a minor league game as soon as tomorrow. [Meredith Marakovits, Chad Jennings & Andy McCullough]
  • Hiroki Kuroda threw 88 pitches in seven shutout innings in a minor league game this afternoon, the team announced. Phil Hughes threw 57 pitches in three innings of three-run ball in a separate minor league game, in case you missed it.
  • Brennan Boesch was scratched from this afternoon’s lineup with what is officially being called a “stiff left ribcage.” He missed about two weeks with the Tigers earlier in camp because of a right oblique problem, which may or may not mean something. Cashman said Boesch was removed from the lineup as a precaution and won’t play until Sunday at the earliest. [Evan Drellich, McCullough & Bryan Hoch]
  • Alex Rodriguez is still doing physical therapy following left hip surgery and hasn’t resumed baseball activities. That’s not much of a surprise. “I think he is doing a lot of work in the pool,’’ said Joe Girardi while Cashman added: “I am not sure when his actual rehab to field activity will take place … Once he does baseball activity we will get him (to Tampa).’’ [George King]
  • The Yankees will be in Lakeland tomorrow to play the Tigers. Andy Pettitte will get that start, and he’ll be joined by projected big leaguers Stewart, Travis Hafner, Jayson Nix, Nunez, Brett Gardner, Juan Rivera, and Ichiro Suzuki on the road trip. That game will not be broadcast anywhere, unfortunately.

Here is your open thread for the evenings. The Knicks and Islanders are both playing, plus MLB Network is airing some Spring Training games. Talk about all of that stuff and more. Enjoy.

  • forensic

    Dan Johnson now has 4 errors and 2 hits. I don’t care what time of year it is, it’s hard to have twice as many errors as hits. Just cut bait already…

    I still can’t help but get sad every time I think about some of these guys who are going to make the team. Juan Rivera, Ben Francisco, Brennan Boesch??? Seriously, this has disaster written all over part of this lineup (and defense).

    • Robinson Tilapia

      …or something that might resemble the San Francisco Giants, if we want to think glass half-full here.

      I don’t think you “cut bait” with Johnson. I think he’ll accept an MiLB assignment just fine. Recent play aside, I’m fine with keeping a guy like him stashed in AAA in the short-term.

      • forensic

        Possibly, but I think that’s stretching it a bit. It’s a lot easier to play like that in their park vs. YSIII and in the NL West vs. the AL East.

        • MannyGeee

          Nah… He’s gonna be a break glass in case of emergency kind of player going forward. Either for us or for the Brewers or the Mets. Just let it play out

        • jjyank

          Depth is a good thing. Keep him if you can.

          • trr

            I’d prefer a little deeper depth than him, butwe go with what we have. AAA for him

          • forensic

            Eh, he barely even qualifies as depth to me. At least it’s only 1B and they never really play anyone worthwhile there in AAA anyway.

            • jjyank

              We apparently disagree mightily on the definition of depth.

              • forensic

                I guess. I want my depth pieces to at least have some semblance of usefulness to a team. I don’t see any in him.

                • jjyank

                  Sure. We all want someone better. But I don’t see anyone better than him readily available. So why cut bait before they find someone better? For shits and giggles?

    • dalelama

      Agreed this team is brutally bad. Kinda like the SF Giants without the pitching.

      • jjyank

        lol

      • trr

        you don’t mind if we actually play a few games before we start dispensing pejoratives like “brutally bad”, do you?

        • jjyank

          He’s a Mets fan. Don’t worry about it.

          • DC

            I’m actually surprised he took time away from his Arod blow up doll to comment.

            • dalelama

              Time will prove me correct…..again. The snarky comments are coming from a loser still whining about the chick who dumped him three years ago and the guy who thought Nick Johnson was a great signing.

              • jjyank

                Keep making up things about people’s personal lives. It makes you sounds so well qualified.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                You can claim time’s proving you correct as much as you’d like when you’re the only one keeping track of yourself. Knock yerself out.

                What a sad existence it must be to continue to post somewhere where it’s obvious no one wants to hear from you.

              • DC

                LOL…guess you really showed me.

      • 461deep

        Owners doing nothing to shore up offense which was never ever the Yankee way. Too many lame excuses as to why team cannot make at least 1 decent trade, FA, or salary pick-up for a good bat. Older here who saw game at YS1 in mid 50′s. Mick caught ball at 407 sign hit by Ted Williams that’s long gone in YS3. We all have what ifs in our lives but Ted 5 service years, Mick injuries, booze, crazy big CF exemplify the term what if.

    • http://riveraveblues I remember the CBS years!

      Not only that, but, do I see a Bill Hall comeback?

  • Eddard

    I think the problem with those who follow sabermetrics is that they’ve fall too easily into Queen Cersei’s “Power is Power” meme. That’s not necessarily the case in baseball. I mentioned weeks ago that the SF Giants hit 103 HRs last season, worst in baseball. They won one less ballgame in the regular season than the Yankees did and they won the World Series. Speed, contact hitting and pitching will be how the team wins now and that’s not necessarily a bad thing as the Giants have proved so well the last few years.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      That style plays much better in a big ballpark.

      • ClusterDuck

        “That style plays much better in a big ballpark.”

        Not always. Sometimes a team tries too hard to hit home runs in a small ball park and because of it they score less runs.

        Yanks 2012 was such a case (here we go).

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          How come teams don’t try too hard to hit singles in a big ballpark and score less runs?

          • Barry

            Or draw more walks with men on first and second with one out?

        • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

          Yankees scored the second most runs in baseball in 2012.

          Playing for contact plays better in parks where there is more room for hits to fall in. In smaller ballparks, less of that contact falls for hits.

          • ClusterDuck

            “Yankees scored the second most runs in baseball in 2012.”

            True.

            The Yanks had their highest home run total in 2012 since ~1995.

            The Yanks had their second lowest run scored total in 2012 since 1995.

            “Playing for contact plays better in parks where there is more room for hits to fall in. In smaller ballparks, less of that contact falls for hits.”

            • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

              Not sure what the point here is.

    • MannyGeee

      Different divisions, different leagues, different worlds. While I agree that you don’t need HRS to win the ring, you can’t compare records and correlation from ALE to NLW, apples and kiwis dude.

  • Darren

    I hope Musty makes the team as the third baseman/left fielder ala Bam Bam Meulens…except with hitting ability and less errors.

    • ClusterDuck

      I’d give the final spot to Musty.

    • MannyGeee

      He’s swinging the club like a guy who wants to make the big team. I am hating the idea less and less, but for the record I would greatly prefer him as a RH DH once Tex is healthy and Youk can go back to 3rd.

      • laz

        I really want him to be at 3rd. I’m not planning any farther on him. He has done everything he can do to make the team. If he is solid great, and if not we can at least say we gave someone with decent potential a shot.

  • Cool Lester Smooth

    More Bullpen Banter Top 100 scouting reports!

    Gary Sanchez: http://bullpenbanter.com/gary-.....3-top-100/
    Mason Williams: http://bullpenbanter.com/mason.....3-top-100/

    A bit of a bright spot among the constant doom and gloom that has been the Yankees Spring Training.

    • Barry

      I think Sanchez can be a good catcher in the majors, maybe even a great one. I just don’t think it’s going to happen, though, unless something gives him a big wakeup call, and soon. -Cowley

      If I’m not mistaken this guy is a year behind on his research. He seems to be caught on a maturity thing. Personally, I hate 20yr olds that are overly mature.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        Yeah, these guys aren’t connected enough for me to take their makeup concerns too seriously. The scouting reports are interesting stuff though.

  • ClusterDuck

    Boy Austin Tyler gets no respect…or is it Tyler Austin? :/

    • Barry

      Christopher is the f’n man. NYY’s #1 prospect in my book. Best bat of the bunch and closest to the MLB.

      • laz

        Depends if you want polish or potential.

        • Barry

          I think he has both.

  • forensic

    Holy Shit! I’m not really a huge dunk guy, they’re way overrated.

    But, there was just an insane alley-oop in the Georgetown-FGC game.

    Meanwhile, Georgetown is like the Nick Swisher of College Basketball. They’ll plod on through typically good, but understated regular seasons, then disappears during the postseason…

    • MannyGeee

      For each ‘sick dunk’ in the tourney I have seen 7 missed dunks when a fundamentally sound lay up would get the points. This is the single biggest reason why I am starting to hate basketball at the collegiate level… It’s turning into the poor mans NBA. which is fucking sad.

      Old school coaches wouldn’t put up with that shit, and Bobby Knight would make you wear a folding chair as a suppository for such a stunt.

      /rant

      • forensic

        I can kind of see what you’re saying, but I still love college basketball. It may be my second favorite overall sport.

        Though I can’t stand or watch any of the NBA.

        • The Big City of Dreams

          Though I can’t stand or watch any of the NBA.

          —————–

          Why not?

          • forensic

            A lot of it is the stuff that Manny mentioned, and though it’s present to an extent in college, I think everything in the NBA is multiplied many times over. The personalities, celebrations, overratedness of dunking, and even the ‘thug’ element are all MUCH more prevalent in the NBA vs. college.

            I also enjoy the small school, upset element of college basketball which doesn’t really show up in the NBA.

            • The Big City of Dreams

              This is the second time I’ve seen the thug element. Either fans have ignored the change or just have one pov and haven’t let go. The thug element is pretty much non existent in the NBA. Guys like Artest, Wallace, Marbury, and Iverson are either role players or out of the league.

              Personalities have always been promoted in the league from Wilt to Bird/Magic to Mj to Shaq to /lebron. The same thing goes for celebrations. Ppl loved Showtime Lakers and Jordan sticking out his tongue.

              True there are more upsets but that’s due to the talent level being on an equal playing field.

      • Tom

        For me it is the incessant flopping on defense trying to draw charges. It’s gotten to the point where players are not even standing vertically and are already falling backward prior to contact even getting made. Duke is especially annoying with this tactic.

        That and the apparent abolition of the traveling call. Between the euro step and the jump stop (followed by creating a new pivot foot after the jump stop) players can pretty much get away with 3 steps as long as it’s not blatant. Though that is far worse in the NBA.

  • Vern Sneaker

    The Florida Gulf Coast Alley-Oop was sick!

  • The Big City of Dreams

    Welcome back

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    • The Big City of Dreams

      Obviously I didn’t see the post following this one and felt like breaking the news myself lol