Open Thread: 3/7 Camp Notes

(AP Photo/Julio Cortez)

(AP Photo/Julio Cortez)

The Yankees lost to the Cardinals (via walk-off hit) this afternoon and believe it or not, Brett Gardner was actually held hitless. Chris Stewart and J.R. Murphy doubled while Ramon Flores, Ichiro Suzuki, Dan Johnson (first hit of spring!), Frankie Cervelli, Matt Diaz, Thomas Neal, Austin Romine, Ronnie Mustelier, and Addison Maruszak all singled. Cervelli and Mustelier also stole bases while Diaz was thrown out.

Ivan Nova allowed one run on three hits and a walk in his three innings of work, and even though it’s only been two outings, he’s already pitching better than he had last spring. He got crushed in camp last year but everyone was too busy paying attention to Michael Pineda‘s velocity. Brett Marshall got hit around a bit, surrendering three runs on five hits in four innings, including a pair of homers. Here’s the box score and here’s the rest from Tampa…

  • During a conference call with reporters, Mark Teixeira called his right wrist strain an “overuse injury” and said he won’t need surgery because nothing is severely torn or displaced. He is wearing a soft cast but will continue to work out, including swinging a bat one-handed. The doctors won’t let him do anything with the injured wrist until it is 100% healed to avoid a setback. [Dan Barbarisi & Jack Curry]
  • Travis Hafner apparently used a glove (!) and took some fielding practice at first base today, but Brian Cashman confirmed there is nothing to it. They will use Hafner as a DH exclusively. [Mark Feinsand]
  • CC Sabathia threw a bullpen session today and everything went just fine. “I feel pretty good, especially after today. I cut a few loose and had no pain,” said the left-hander, who will throw a simulated game on Sunday. [Feinsand]
  • Derek Jeter visited Dr. Robert Anderson, who performed his left ankle surgery in October, in North Carolina for a routine and scheduled checkup today according to the Yankees. Joe Girardi said everything “went great” and called it “final clearance.” The Cap’n is expected to be back in camp tomorrow. [Joel Sherman]
  • Phil Hughes (bulging disk) threw 15 pitches — using his actual pitching delivery and not just playing catch — on flat ground. Boone Logan (elbow) played catch on flat ground, making 38 tosses. David Robertson played catch for the first time since having trouble getting loose on Tuesday. [Associated Press]
  • The Yankees are still on the road in Jupiter and will play the Marlins tomorrow afternoon. Adam Warren gets the start. That game will be broadcast on only, but thankfully there are no blackout restrictions.

Here is your open thread for the night. All three hockey locals plus the Knicks are in action, and you’ve also got the World Baseball Classic on MLB Network. Robinson Cano‘s Dominican Republic team is facing Venezuela. Talk about any of those guys or anything else here. Enjoy.


  1. Jacob the OG says:

    getting so tired of the mobile shit

    • vicki says:

      i feel like the hot .gif action did to rab what actual porn does regularly to my computer.

      system restore, mike!

    • Laz says:

      It’s awful.
      It’s harder to see how replies connect with each other.

      • forensic says:

        Not even just that. Mine doesn’t even update with new comments when it goes into that mode, so even if you could follow the comment trees, they don’t all appear so you can’t keep up anyway.

        And it erases your handle and info every time, though that’s not nearly as big a deal as the rest of it.

  2. Winter says:

    Who would play better first base, Travis Hafner or a large trash can?

  3. Eddard says:

    Looks like this season will be it for the Key 3 and the only remaining player from that great dynasty will be Derek Jeter. Mo’s retirement should be a rallying point for this team. I think the significance of the injuries in March and April are overblown. The team will get by just fine and doesn’t need to panic and make a big trade this early in the year.

  4. vicki says:

    evening, gents. greetings from beautiful tampa, florida. take that, storm saturn.

    i too am weepy about the (not surprising) mo announcement. i shall lead the standing o saturday.

    he’s the one you’ll tell your grandkids you saw.

  5. vicki says:

    i saw a quote in the times today where he said he has a glove . . . and anybody who wants to use it is free to.

    • vicki says:

      pronk, that is.

      reply fail, as they say.

    • MannyGeee says:

      I’d be concerned.

      The last time someone went all fuckin around with a glove in Pinstripes when they weren’t supposed to, an god amongst men ripped his knee in half. And he is durable.

  6. Too much power....not enough power says:

    The rest of the AL East better run and hide in April and May, because if the Yanks are still hanging around after Memorial Day…….

    • Laz says:

      Yep, could be a pretty fantastic lineup once arod/Teix/Grandy get healthy

    • Havok9120 says:

      Very much this. If we’re still in it at the end of May (and I think we will be) those reinforcements should be a game-changer.

      • Robinson Tilapia says:

        I’ve said this a few times today, but the Yankees have laid a major turd several times through May WITH a full roster and gone on to win the East. I honestly can’t see this temporary lineup doing much worse than what we’ve already seen.

        • forensic says:

          While true, there’s more to it than just that though. The AL East, at least on paper and/or in theory is much deeper now than it has been in some recent years, thereby making it tougher to beat up on the terrible teams.

          On top of that, many of those slow starts were due to guys who were there and just trying to work through a slow start after Spring Training. This year, they’re going to have a very compromised lineup AND then have to try to deal with guys coming back who basically haven’t had any Spring Training who are trying to get into game shape and up to game speed.

          • Robinson Tilapia says:

            How likely will it be, though, that this team will be worse than nine games under .500 in May? That happened.

            (and, yes, it’s not outside the realm of possibility whatsoever)

            • forensic says:

              Given some of the teams in their early schedule, 9 under may not be all that shocking unfortunately.

            • I am not the droids you're looking for... says:

              Well I think the larger context though is that the regulars won’t have that extended slump time in April to get their shit together. If they all come back in May we may then have a shitty may/June. That’s my concern.

      • forensic says:

        Though if you want to look at the flip side, that could be right about when the more injury prone/worrisome guys start to drop such as Pettitte, Youkilis, Hafner, Hughes, etc. and the guys coming back will be barely more than status quo for whatever they had the first month+…

        • Havok9120 says:

          Of course that could happen. But there’s absolutely nothing I (or the Yankees, for that matter) could do to prepare for virtually every major piece of the starting roster going down with major injuries in the space of 3 months. If that’s what happens this season then I won’t even be ticked about the lack of depth because NO team could replace that much salary/productivity on the DL for long stretches.

          • forensic says:

            Well, of course not. But I’m not really talking about in terms of whether you/we blame the front office or not, I’m strictly speaking in terms of results. At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if they were only able to reach the area of the mid-80′s in wins this year.

            And sadly, they’re not exactly in position to improve much over the next year or two with the possible lower payroll to go along with the even older, likely more injury prone roster they’re somewhat locked in to.

            • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

              We have a decent amount of guys only latched on for a year or two, and then we may have to grit our teeth and suffer through a year or two of the kids playing before we can make a real run again. Hey, we’ve been wanting this for awhile, it’s gonna suck while it happens but in theory the results should be worth it.

  7. MannyGeee says:

    Anibal Sanchez got ROCKED tonight by the DR. 3 runs (so far) in 0.1(!!!)IP, and leaves the game with the bases chalked. 20 pitches…

  8. MannyGeee says:

    I love my people, man… but only in San Juan could the ball boy go missing during a rain delay and take all the goddam balls with him. Legit embarrassed, but not surprised

  9. Too much power....not enough power says:

    Cano is going to get the Barry Bonds treatment until Teix and Grandy come back. If there is a base open, he won’t see a strike for two months.

  10. emac2 says:

    Gardner, Montgomery, Warren and Ronnier for Headley

  11. Hall and Nokes says:

    Second inning buntz at the WBC!

  12. YankeeGrunt says:

    Msrshall had a bad inning rather than a bad outing. Only bad pitch he threw in the first three innings left the yard. Three strikeouts, the Cards announcers were impressed with his repertoire. Wheels fell off a bit in the fourth inning.

  13. LennonJames says:

    Is it weird to anybody else that Cano apologized to his DOM teammates for not doing well during the last WBC? Doesnt seem like something he would do with the Yankees. This is the same guy who has been benched for lack of effort.

  14. Jersey Joe says:

    Derrek Lee as a first base candidate?

    • Pat D says:

      If we’re going for over the hill candidates, I’d rather they sign Scott Rolen to play third and put Youk at first.

  15. Robinson Tilapia says:

    Let’s see. We could talk about….

    - My Heat’s 16 game winning streak
    - Eddard blaming a lack of Gene Monahan for injuries
    - Who would win between the 1965 and 1991 Yankees
    - People who post to RAB from tropical beaches
    - How many of us have posed as fake pablos hamsamwiches since the meme started
    - Mostly, my Heat’s 16 game winning streak

  16. Jersey Joe says:

    Breaking news: The injury epidemic that hit the Mets about 4 years ago is spreading to the Bronx.

  17. Pistol Pete says:

    Get Soriano on the cheap, he can play of with Gardy in cf where he belongs. Maybe Johnson can hold down 1b until or if Tex returns that I feel is a real crapshoot. Jeter Ichiro Cano Youkalis Hafner Soriano Johnson Cervelli and Gardner. Not great but Soriano provides left right balance and power. He’s no God’s send but this lineup has balance and power if Johnson can hit and Soriano and Youkalis aren’t over the hill and Jeter and Gardy can stay healthy. Lot of if’s but without Soriano who plays the outfield.

    • MannyGeee says:

      Plenty of ifs without Soriano already. Why trade away a good prospect or pay that kind of cash unless its a legit fix to our many gaping holes.

    • Havok9120 says:

      But Soriano isn’t really available on the cheap, at least not from what we hear. The Cubs have no real incentive to trade him and the trade price for offense reportedly started high and has only gone up since.

  18. Great comeback win by NYR. Glad to see they are getting their shit together.

  19. I don’t know how well this team will do, but I definitely agree with not doing stupid trades. We are in a new world where we are being out spent by teams like the Pirates and Indians. Bad idea to trade when everyone else knows that we are desperate. Injuries happen, but our GM and owner made it worse by trying to go on the cheap. And the $220 M payroll is not an excuse. The ARod and Tex contracts inflate the payroll without the expected productivity. Swisher and Martin would sure be helpful in that depleted lineup now.

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      Trades for short-term gain are going to do nothing. I’m a full believer in staying the course here and looking to see what comes up as the hammer falls at the end of Spring Training.

      It’d sure be nice to dump the celery cap, though.

  20. Dale Mohorcic says:

    You’d think that with $180M contract you could afford to have someone else (or several someone elses with that kind of bank account) handle your business for you so that you don’t end up with an “overuse injury.”

    • Robinson Tilapia says:

      I can’t believe no one had made the obvious “overused forearm” joke yet. We’re slipping.

      • Dale Mohorcic says:

        That was what I was going for. Too subtle, eh? Well, then, if he spent a little less time choking the chicken he might have be able to get on the field. Of course, this is the kind of problem that can linger because what else do you do when you’re home sick from work for 8-10 weeks?

  21. Nick says:

    That was a Dandy from Hanley

  22. Al says:

    Play Travis Hafner at first base or Carlos Lee or Jim tomi or Jason Giambi or Shelley Duncan Or Vladimir Guerrero

  23. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    Without knowing the results of the playoffs, which end-of-season roster would you pick going into this season, the 2000 Yankees or the 2007 Yankees?

    I think without knowing the playoff results the 07′ Yankees is the no-brainer choice. 94 wins to 87. That’s a 7 game difference. Think about it. Imagine if we won the division by 7 games. It would be considered a cakewalk. The pythag is even more fun, claiming that it really should be an ELEVEN year swing.

    …Wow, looking at the stats, the 07′ team was SO much better. Like, not even close. It demolishes the 2000 team in hitting and is roughly equal in pitching and possibly even a bit better (according to ERA+ Andy actually had the better year in 07′, oddly.

    07′ every day of the week, twice on Sundays…but not in October.

  24. Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR) says:

    What the FUCK, Mo’s ERA+ in 08′ was 316.


    I can’t even think of anything to add on to that. That’s just insane.

  25. Barry says:

    I’ve been having nightmares all night… Starting with the 1912 team.. they still make me cringe; Birdie Cree really let me down. Then it ends with A-Rod staring in a mirror with a dumb pose and Tex doing something weird in the background.. lotion everywhere.. Scary scary stuff..

  26. Long-Past-His-Day-Rod says:

    I know I’m completely comparing apples to oranges here, and I know how serious an effect wrist injuries have on hitters (especially power hitters) but I still can’t help a chuckle at MLB players going out for a month plus with a “strained random body part” while I see NFL players playing week in and week out with broken appendages still in casts. An “overuse injury” Tex? If hitting balls of a tee in ST is overuse than I don’t want to know what’s considered normal use.

    Whatever, baseball remains my favorite sport and I wish Tex and Grandy full and complete recoveries and hope they come back to kick some ass NY style in May/June. I’m not giving up on this season in any way shape or form yet.

    • Barry says:

      The apropriate RABsponse would be that the teams have to much invested in said player to risk further injury and that the football players play 1/10 the games that baseball players do.

      • Improbable Island's Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR) says:

        Also, baseball is a precision game. Football players smash people, and wider receivers need to cup their hands to catch a football. In baseball you need to be able to swing a bat in a way that you’ll hit a ball three out of ten games and get on base four out of ten to be considered good.

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