Mar
07

Open Thread: 3/7 Camp Notes

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(AP Photo/Julio Cortez)

The Yankees lost to the Cardinals (via walk-off hit) this afternoon and believe it or not, Brett Gardner was actually held hitless. Chris Stewart and J.R. Murphy doubled while Ramon Flores, Ichiro Suzuki, Dan Johnson (first hit of spring!), Frankie Cervelli, Matt Diaz, Thomas Neal, Austin Romine, Ronnie Mustelier, and Addison Maruszak all singled. Cervelli and Mustelier also stole bases while Diaz was thrown out.

Ivan Nova allowed one run on three hits and a walk in his three innings of work, and even though it’s only been two outings, he’s already pitching better than he had last spring. He got crushed in camp last year but everyone was too busy paying attention to Michael Pineda‘s velocity. Brett Marshall got hit around a bit, surrendering three runs on five hits in four innings, including a pair of homers. Here’s the box score and here’s the rest from Tampa…

  • During a conference call with reporters, Mark Teixeira called his right wrist strain an “overuse injury” and said he won’t need surgery because nothing is severely torn or displaced. He is wearing a soft cast but will continue to work out, including swinging a bat one-handed. The doctors won’t let him do anything with the injured wrist until it is 100% healed to avoid a setback. [Dan Barbarisi & Jack Curry]
  • Travis Hafner apparently used a glove (!) and took some fielding practice at first base today, but Brian Cashman confirmed there is nothing to it. They will use Hafner as a DH exclusively. [Mark Feinsand]
  • CC Sabathia threw a bullpen session today and everything went just fine. “I feel pretty good, especially after today. I cut a few loose and had no pain,” said the left-hander, who will throw a simulated game on Sunday. [Feinsand]
  • Derek Jeter visited Dr. Robert Anderson, who performed his left ankle surgery in October, in North Carolina for a routine and scheduled checkup today according to the Yankees. Joe Girardi said everything “went great” and called it “final clearance.” The Cap’n is expected to be back in camp tomorrow. [Joel Sherman]
  • Phil Hughes (bulging disk) threw 15 pitches — using his actual pitching delivery and not just playing catch — on flat ground. Boone Logan (elbow) played catch on flat ground, making 38 tosses. David Robertson played catch for the first time since having trouble getting loose on Tuesday. [Associated Press]
  • The Yankees are still on the road in Jupiter and will play the Marlins tomorrow afternoon. Adam Warren gets the start. That game will be broadcast on MLB.tv only, but thankfully there are no blackout restrictions.

Here is your open thread for the night. All three hockey locals plus the Knicks are in action, and you’ve also got the World Baseball Classic on MLB Network. Robinson Cano‘s Dominican Republic team is facing Venezuela. Talk about any of those guys or anything else here. Enjoy.

  • Jacob the OG

    getting so tired of the mobile shit

    • vicki

      i feel like the hot .gif action did to rab what actual porn does regularly to my computer.

      system restore, mike!

    • Laz

      It’s awful.
      It’s harder to see how replies connect with each other.

      • forensic

        Not even just that. Mine doesn’t even update with new comments when it goes into that mode, so even if you could follow the comment trees, they don’t all appear so you can’t keep up anyway.

        And it erases your handle and info every time, though that’s not nearly as big a deal as the rest of it.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Same.

  • Winter

    Who would play better first base, Travis Hafner or a large trash can?

    • trr

      hmmm

    • DC

      Is the trash can standing up or laying on its side?

  • Eddard

    Looks like this season will be it for the Key 3 and the only remaining player from that great dynasty will be Derek Jeter. Mo’s retirement should be a rallying point for this team. I think the significance of the injuries in March and April are overblown. The team will get by just fine and doesn’t need to panic and make a big trade this early in the year.

  • vicki

    evening, gents. greetings from beautiful tampa, florida. take that, storm saturn.

    i too am weepy about the (not surprising) mo announcement. i shall lead the standing o saturday.

    he’s the one you’ll tell your grandkids you saw.

    • Havok9120

      I’ve been living it up down here for years. You people can keep your winter weather. I’ll be up to ski once every year or two.

      • Laz

        Yea, I’m not a huge fan of winter either.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          It’s one of my favorite Tori Amos songs.

          • vicki

            hey, um. maybe don’t tell people you have a favorite tori amos song.

  • vicki

    i saw a quote in the times today where he said he has a glove . . . and anybody who wants to use it is free to.

    • vicki

      pronk, that is.

      reply fail, as they say.

    • MannyGeee

      I’d be concerned.

      The last time someone went all fuckin around with a glove in Pinstripes when they weren’t supposed to, an god amongst men ripped his knee in half. And he is durable.

  • Too much power….not enough power

    The rest of the AL East better run and hide in April and May, because if the Yanks are still hanging around after Memorial Day…….

    • Laz

      Yep, could be a pretty fantastic lineup once arod/Teix/Grandy get healthy

    • Havok9120

      Very much this. If we’re still in it at the end of May (and I think we will be) those reinforcements should be a game-changer.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I’ve said this a few times today, but the Yankees have laid a major turd several times through May WITH a full roster and gone on to win the East. I honestly can’t see this temporary lineup doing much worse than what we’ve already seen.

        • forensic

          While true, there’s more to it than just that though. The AL East, at least on paper and/or in theory is much deeper now than it has been in some recent years, thereby making it tougher to beat up on the terrible teams.

          On top of that, many of those slow starts were due to guys who were there and just trying to work through a slow start after Spring Training. This year, they’re going to have a very compromised lineup AND then have to try to deal with guys coming back who basically haven’t had any Spring Training who are trying to get into game shape and up to game speed.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            How likely will it be, though, that this team will be worse than nine games under .500 in May? That happened.

            (and, yes, it’s not outside the realm of possibility whatsoever)

            • forensic

              Given some of the teams in their early schedule, 9 under may not be all that shocking unfortunately.

            • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

              Well I think the larger context though is that the regulars won’t have that extended slump time in April to get their shit together. If they all come back in May we may then have a shitty may/June. That’s my concern.

      • forensic

        Though if you want to look at the flip side, that could be right about when the more injury prone/worrisome guys start to drop such as Pettitte, Youkilis, Hafner, Hughes, etc. and the guys coming back will be barely more than status quo for whatever they had the first month+…

        • Havok9120

          Of course that could happen. But there’s absolutely nothing I (or the Yankees, for that matter) could do to prepare for virtually every major piece of the starting roster going down with major injuries in the space of 3 months. If that’s what happens this season then I won’t even be ticked about the lack of depth because NO team could replace that much salary/productivity on the DL for long stretches.

          • Robinson Tilapia
          • forensic

            Well, of course not. But I’m not really talking about in terms of whether you/we blame the front office or not, I’m strictly speaking in terms of results. At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if they were only able to reach the area of the mid-80′s in wins this year.

            And sadly, they’re not exactly in position to improve much over the next year or two with the possible lower payroll to go along with the even older, likely more injury prone roster they’re somewhat locked in to.

            • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

              We have a decent amount of guys only latched on for a year or two, and then we may have to grit our teeth and suffer through a year or two of the kids playing before we can make a real run again. Hey, we’ve been wanting this for awhile, it’s gonna suck while it happens but in theory the results should be worth it.

  • MannyGeee

    Anibal Sanchez got ROCKED tonight by the DR. 3 runs (so far) in 0.1(!!!)IP, and leaves the game with the bases chalked. 20 pitches…

  • MannyGeee

    I love my people, man… but only in San Juan could the ball boy go missing during a rain delay and take all the goddam balls with him. Legit embarrassed, but not surprised

    • Havok9120

      Oh my God. That’s freaking awesome.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      +80,000

    • forensic

      Wow, I just heard them say the game was delayed because they couldn’t find the balls. That’s pretty pitiful.

    • vicki

      pretty much best story ever.

  • Too much power….not enough power

    Cano is going to get the Barry Bonds treatment until Teix and Grandy come back. If there is a base open, he won’t see a strike for two months.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Probably.
      Hopefully he doesn’t still swing at everything.

      • JobaWockeeZ

        Change your name to Need Everything and Fast.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          “Need a Drink”
          “Need Patience (but mostly hitting)”
          “Need a Doctor (or twelve)”

          • Pat D

            Doctor Who?

  • emac2

    Gardner, Montgomery, Warren and Ronnier for Headley

    • Too much power….not enough power

      Do the Padres hang up first, or do the Padres hang up first WHILE dying from laughter?

      • Pat D

        The laughter would kill them before they had a chance to hang up the phone.

        • https://twitter.com/meatface55 Nick

          yeah im sure they would just need warren

      • OldYanksFan

        Explain this to me.
        Headley has 13.5 WAR in 5 full seasons.
        Gritner has 14.2 WAR in less than 4 full seasons.
        Why would SD laugh?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          This isn’t a vacuum. The Padres don’t need outfielders.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Your trade proposal is a steaming pile of shit.

    • MannyGeee

      Lost it at Mustielier having trade value. Thanks for playing

      • vicki

        you. bastard.

  • Hall and Nokes

    Second inning buntz at the WBC!

  • YankeeGrunt

    Msrshall had a bad inning rather than a bad outing. Only bad pitch he threw in the first three innings left the yard. Three strikeouts, the Cards announcers were impressed with his repertoire. Wheels fell off a bit in the fourth inning.

    • YankeeGrunt

      His fourth inning that is, the seventh inning of the game.

  • LennonJames

    Is it weird to anybody else that Cano apologized to his DOM teammates for not doing well during the last WBC? Doesnt seem like something he would do with the Yankees. This is the same guy who has been benched for lack of effort.

  • Jersey Joe

    Derrek Lee as a first base candidate?

    • Pat D

      If we’re going for over the hill candidates, I’d rather they sign Scott Rolen to play third and put Youk at first.

      • Laz

        No.
        That guy can’t hit at all anymore.

        • Pat D

          I didn’t say I want them to do it. I said it’s a better option than Derrek Lee, who didn’t play last year and wasn’t hitting all that well the two previous years.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Let’s see. We could talk about….

    - My Heat’s 16 game winning streak
    - Eddard blaming a lack of Gene Monahan for injuries
    - Who would win between the 1965 and 1991 Yankees
    - People who post to RAB from tropical beaches
    - How many of us have posed as fake pablos hamsamwiches since the meme started
    - Mostly, my Heat’s 16 game winning streak

    • Hall and Nokes

      2013 beats either 1965 or 1991 because of Mo

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I’m pretty confident 2013, even with the injuries, would wipe its ass with either of those teams.

        • Hall and Nokes

          ’91 would have the advantage at C and LF right now, and that ain’t just the handle talkin’

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Not even close on pitching. C’mon, man.

          • Havok9120

            Yeah, but the rest of the roster? Even given the injuries I’m fairly certain we can reasonably expect more from this team.

    • Cris Pengiucci

      I’d much rather talk about my recent scotch tasting than your Heat (or any basketball team for that matter.) :-)

      • Robinson Tilapia

        YES! What did you have? Anything reasonably affordable to recommend?

        • Robinson Tilapia

          (and, by that, I mean anything under……$60 or so?)

          • MannyGeee

            Aberlour 16yr brother. @ $60 a bottle, it’s a little bit of heaven in your mouth.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              I went crazy for this a couple of months ago.

              http://winesworld.com/spice-tr.....isky/1957/

              • BigLoving

                It is a little pricey and I was skeptical at first trying a Japanese whisky but I highly recommend Yamazaki. The 18 YO is heavenly if you like a nice smokey and smooth burn.

                http://www.masterofmalt.com/wh.....ld-whisky/

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  That’s Christmas present from a client territory, pricewise, and I don’t exactly work an industry where my clients will show up with a bottle of that for Christmas.

                  I totally believe you, though.

      • pablos spagetti samwich

        I’d much rather talk about my recent scotch tasting than your gootch (or any basketball team for that matter.)

    • Pat D

      The 1965 team would definitely beat the 1991 team. Anyway it’s the 1990 team that should be in that discussion since they were worse.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        But 1990 had the awesome power of Chuck Cary in the rotation.

    • jjyank

      Don’t hate the beach, hate the game.

  • Jersey Joe

    Breaking news: The injury epidemic that hit the Mets about 4 years ago is spreading to the Bronx.

  • Pistol Pete

    Get Soriano on the cheap, he can play of with Gardy in cf where he belongs. Maybe Johnson can hold down 1b until or if Tex returns that I feel is a real crapshoot. Jeter Ichiro Cano Youkalis Hafner Soriano Johnson Cervelli and Gardner. Not great but Soriano provides left right balance and power. He’s no God’s send but this lineup has balance and power if Johnson can hit and Soriano and Youkalis aren’t over the hill and Jeter and Gardy can stay healthy. Lot of if’s but without Soriano who plays the outfield.

    • MannyGeee

      Plenty of ifs without Soriano already. Why trade away a good prospect or pay that kind of cash unless its a legit fix to our many gaping holes.

    • Havok9120

      But Soriano isn’t really available on the cheap, at least not from what we hear. The Cubs have no real incentive to trade him and the trade price for offense reportedly started high and has only gone up since.

  • http:/www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew)

    Great comeback win by NYR. Glad to see they are getting their shit together.

  • http://RiveravenueBlues Mississippi Doc

    I don’t know how well this team will do, but I definitely agree with not doing stupid trades. We are in a new world where we are being out spent by teams like the Pirates and Indians. Bad idea to trade when everyone else knows that we are desperate. Injuries happen, but our GM and owner made it worse by trying to go on the cheap. And the $220 M payroll is not an excuse. The ARod and Tex contracts inflate the payroll without the expected productivity. Swisher and Martin would sure be helpful in that depleted lineup now.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Trades for short-term gain are going to do nothing. I’m a full believer in staying the course here and looking to see what comes up as the hammer falls at the end of Spring Training.

      It’d sure be nice to dump the celery cap, though.

  • Dale Mohorcic

    You’d think that with $180M contract you could afford to have someone else (or several someone elses with that kind of bank account) handle your business for you so that you don’t end up with an “overuse injury.”

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I can’t believe no one had made the obvious “overused forearm” joke yet. We’re slipping.

      • Dale Mohorcic

        That was what I was going for. Too subtle, eh? Well, then, if he spent a little less time choking the chicken he might have be able to get on the field. Of course, this is the kind of problem that can linger because what else do you do when you’re home sick from work for 8-10 weeks?

        • DC

          Since he’s a switch hitter, he’ll probably be ok.

  • https://twitter.com/meatface55 Nick

    That was a Dandy from Hanley

  • Al

    Play Travis Hafner at first base or Carlos Lee or Jim tomi or Jason Giambi or Shelley Duncan Or Vladimir Guerrero

    • http:/www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew)

      Two of the players you mentioned play for other teams. That is, unless you meant that the Yankees should acquire those players then, my bad.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Jim Tomi!

    • DC

      Sam Pearce!

    • vicki

      i see you. i love you.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    Without knowing the results of the playoffs, which end-of-season roster would you pick going into this season, the 2000 Yankees or the 2007 Yankees?

    I think without knowing the playoff results the 07′ Yankees is the no-brainer choice. 94 wins to 87. That’s a 7 game difference. Think about it. Imagine if we won the division by 7 games. It would be considered a cakewalk. The pythag is even more fun, claiming that it really should be an ELEVEN year swing.

    …Wow, looking at the stats, the 07′ team was SO much better. Like, not even close. It demolishes the 2000 team in hitting and is roughly equal in pitching and possibly even a bit better (according to ERA+ Andy actually had the better year in 07′, oddly.

    07′ every day of the week, twice on Sundays…but not in October.

    • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

      *Eleven GAME swing. Not year, obviously.

    • vicki

      you said “pythag” like it’s a thing. bang.

  • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (formerly RRR)

    What the FUCK, Mo’s ERA+ in 08′ was 316.

    THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN.

    I can’t even think of anything to add on to that. That’s just insane.

    • Barry

      How bout this, it was ONLY 144 in 2007, that’s a fluke year for Mo.

  • Barry

    I’ve been having nightmares all night… Starting with the 1912 team.. they still make me cringe; Birdie Cree really let me down. Then it ends with A-Rod staring in a mirror with a dumb pose and Tex doing something weird in the background.. lotion everywhere.. Scary scary stuff..

    • vicki

      hot.

  • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

    I know I’m completely comparing apples to oranges here, and I know how serious an effect wrist injuries have on hitters (especially power hitters) but I still can’t help a chuckle at MLB players going out for a month plus with a “strained random body part” while I see NFL players playing week in and week out with broken appendages still in casts. An “overuse injury” Tex? If hitting balls of a tee in ST is overuse than I don’t want to know what’s considered normal use.

    Whatever, baseball remains my favorite sport and I wish Tex and Grandy full and complete recoveries and hope they come back to kick some ass NY style in May/June. I’m not giving up on this season in any way shape or form yet.

    • Barry

      The apropriate RABsponse would be that the teams have to much invested in said player to risk further injury and that the football players play 1/10 the games that baseball players do.

      • Improbable Island’s Dirty Midget Whores (Formerly RRR)

        Also, baseball is a precision game. Football players smash people, and wider receivers need to cup their hands to catch a football. In baseball you need to be able to swing a bat in a way that you’ll hit a ball three out of ten games and get on base four out of ten to be considered good.