Ken Singleton weighs in – Part 2

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Last week, we spoke to YES Network broadcaster and former All-Star Ken Singleton about all things Alex Rodriguez, from his looming suspension to his legacy and everything in between. This time we’re going to cover the trade deadline and some moves/non-moves, and in part three tomorrow we’ll tackle some other “state of the Yankees” topics.

Matt Warden: One of the big stories we’ve covered extensively here at RAB was the trade deadline.  I think the Yankees had an opportunity, a really important opportunity actually, to either raise the white flag and try and move guys like Hiroki Kuroda, Curtis Granderson, Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, or even Robinson Cano with the idea of retooling for the future, or they could have gone the other route and done whatever it took to compete this season.  Looking back, it seems the team managed to do very little.  Sure, they grabbed Alfonso Soriano, but I wonder if that was too little too late.  Do you think they showed the right amount of activity at the deadline or would you have preferred them to do something more dramatic?

Ken Singleton:  Well, of course everyone would like to see the team improve and Brian Cashman is in the business of improving the Yankees.  I’m sure he was on the phone talking to people, but maybe what they were offering was not, in his eyes, good enough.  Or, maybe other teams wanted too much [for their guys].  We’ve seen how Joba’s slid down the list in the bullpen as far as importance, but maybe the Yankees felt he’s more important [then his selling price would indicate].  Was Joba more important to another team, and they could have offered more, but they just didn’t?

Same with Phil Hughes.  Although he’s going to be a free agent, you still need somebody to pitch today and tomorrow.  I’m not one to just unload guys just to unload them.  I think you look to make your team better, whether it’s in future prospects or getting decent prospects from a team, and if the prospects from another team aren’t good enough — we weren’t involved in these phone conversations and Brian Cashman was — and if he didn’t think it was good enough, they aren’t good enough.  You just go with what you got.  I’m sure Cashman was trying.  I’m sure other teams were calling about some of his players. I’m sure he inquired about players on other teams, but if things don’t happen, it just doesn’t happen.  That’s why when players get injured managers say someone else on the team will have to step up.  It’s not like everyone out there is feeling sorry for you.  That’s not going to happen, particularly not with the Yankees.

MW:  The Yankees have been pretty depleted with right-handed power.  What did you think about the Alfonso Soriano move?

KS: I’m kind of glad they got them.   At least he’s a player who hits right handers and has some power.  Yankee fans know him.  He’s been here before.  I think Vernon Wells hasn’t hit a home run since May.  They had to do something.  If Vernon had been producing like he was earlier in the season, I don’t think Soriano would be here right now but the fact is that Vernon Wells hasn’t provided power for the last several months and they had to do something or risk being shut out every time by left handed pitchers.

MW: True.  Travis Hafner has been pretty ineffective for a while too which was certainly part of the problem.

KS: Yeah, both he and Wells started going downhill around the same time.  Wells has been a little more effective than Hafner lately, prior to his injury.  Plus Wells can do more things.  Hafner’s job is basically just to hit and he hasn’t been doing it.  And now he’s on the DL because his shoulder’s bothering him I guess.  Neither one has really done much since May.

MW: At least with Wells, he’s being utilized more appropriately now.

KS: Yeah, he’s not being played not on an everyday basis.  They couldn’t do that early in the year because there was no one else, and now Joe Girardi can slot him in against pitchers he’s done well against in the pass.  Defensively, he’s fine.  He’s made some throws from the outfield that have gotten guys out at the plate.  He’s a very good base runner and he hustles.  He just hasn’t hit like the Vernon Wells we saw with the Blue Jays.  He basically hasn’t been the same guy since leaving Toronto, and that’s unfortunate because he was one of the better players in the league at the time.

MW:  Getting back to the deadline and Cashman’s efforts, I think you’re right to some extent.  It’s been publicized now that the Yankees inquired into players like Carlos Ruiz or Michael Young, and those offers simply weren’t happening which was fine…

KS: Matt, let me say this.  One thing that may hinder trades is the extra wild card spot.

MW: Agreed.

KS: Yeah, I think that kind of slows down the trade market because teams maybe feel “we’re not totally out of it.”  “We’re not totally giving up on our players.  If we get a couple of guys healthy, we can make a run and make the playoffs” and once you get in, who knows what’s going to happen.

MW: Is that naive thinking by teams in some cases though?

KS: No, but I think it affects the Yankees.  I think it affects all the other teams in Major League Baseball too, hot or not.  If you’re going to deal with a team that’s low and out of it, low in the standings and out of it, maybe you can pry someone away from them.  But even the Phillies, maybe they’re thinking “Ah, maybe we’ve got a shot.”

MW: I’m sure that’s definitely true to some extent, and I’m sure it definitely applied to the Yankees this year.  Do you think they should be thinking along these lines though?  The Yankees are an older team and when you really weigh their options, even if they somehow reach the playoffs this year, how good of a chance do they have now, and especially going forward?  As for the Phillies, is it really worth keeping a guy who’s 36 years old like Michael Young when they could potentially get a solid prospect in return in a seller’s market, rather than risking the likely reality of missing the postseason with another aging veteran?

KS: Okay, but if you’re a team like the Phillies, who draw very well, or you’re a team like the Yankees who draw pretty well, and all of a sudden you get rid of all your players, it’s like telling your fans, “don’t show up for the rest of regular season.”  That’s it, we’ve given up on this year.  That’s not a good thing if you ask me.  I think you want to show everyone that you’re still trying and you still believe in everyone you have.  I don’t know what the Yankees offered the Philadelphia Phillies.  Nobody does, and I just feel things happen or they don’t happen for a reason; and if the trades weren’t made, it’s because they weren’t there.  It’s as simple as that.  It’s not like they didn’t try hard enough.  It’s just that it didn’t work.

MW:  Fair enough.  Speaking of GMs, I know GM Mike Rizzo recently enjoyed a promotion to something of the effect of President, something comparable to a Theo Epstein type of gig.

KS: Got an extension too.

MW: Yeah, that’s correct.  Do you think that’s what’s in store for Brian Cashman once the season concludes?

KS: I have no idea what the Yankees have in mind for him.  I think his title right now suits him just fine.  He’s the General Manager of the Yankees.  That title still carries a lot of weight.  Now if they want to give him a promotion to something else, I’m sure he’d consider it and he’d probably accept it.  But his job right now is, I think, all he can handle at the moment to be honest with you.

MW: [Laughs] So this leads me to a sensative topic, I suppose.  Do you think there is tension between him an ownership.  I feel like in the past year or so, he’s been much more vocal about, “yeah this trade was my idea” or “no, this move was not my preference.”  You heard this with Rafael Soriano.  You heard it again with Ichiro Suzuki, and most recently with Alfonso Soriano.  It’s almost like he’s distancing himself from certain moves.  Recently folks heard him say something to the effect of “This was ownership’s doing.  Sure it makes the team better, but this wasn’t exactly my call” when asked about the Soriano trade.

KS: Well you know, he can voice his own opinion.  I mean, the ownership has the final call.  They’re the bosses and if he doesn’t like it, I give him credit for saying what’s on his mind.  I’m not saying that creates tension; maybe it’s just being honest with everybody.  Doesn’t seem to bother Hal Steinbrenner, because Brian Cashman’s still around.

MW: So we shouldn’t be reading anything further into this?

KS: I think honesty is the best policy.  You just say what you feel.  He probably mentioned it to Hal Steinbrenner to begin with.  He probably said, “Hey, I’m not in with this [move] but if you want me to do it, you’re the boss, and I will do it.”  If it goes public, it goes public.  I don’t see them going back at each other in the press.  They are just doing their jobs.  I have no problem with this.  You know, I played for Earl Weaver and he used to say to us, “You say what’s on your mind.  This is America.  You’re allowed to say what you want.  But you just better bet able to back it up.”  So I remember when he said that in the club house once, though I forgot the situation, but I began…

[briefly pauses]

You know, Earl was right.  This is America.  You say what you want.  You say what’s on your mind.  You just better be able to back it up.  That’s all.

MW: [Laughs]  I like that.  That’s … pretty frank.

KS: Yep.  And if you played for Earl, he said what was on his mind.

MW: I think that’s a fair point.  No one really knows what arrangement Cashman has with ownership regarding what he is or isn’t supposed to publicize (if there’s anything at all).  They may or may not have differences of opinion about baseball operations, but no one knows if that’s causing any grief in the day to day baseball administration.

KS: Nobody does.  You know what.  I’ve been married for 22 years and I don’t agree with my wife all the time.

MW: [Laughs]

KS: [Laughs] We co-exist.  You know.  That’s the nature of everything.  You learn to compromise on certain issues.

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  • Robinson Tilapia

    Matt Warden: Investigative Journalist.

    In the spirit of Earl Weaver, you should just go ahead and say, “that Flash Flaherty’s a real twit, isn’t he?” and see what response you get.

    All good responses from Singleton, and all things those who think they’ve got every inner working of this franchise figured out should consider.

    BUT WHAT DOES THE MATT WARDEN TROLL THINK?!?!

    • idontlikemattwarden

      He thinks that you should get Matt Wardens balls out of your mouth.

  • Captain

    good stuff Matt. Ken seemed like a fun interview and he didn’t shy away from any of the questions you asked.

  • trr

    Ineresting to hear Ken talk about the perceived schism between ownership and Cashman. Generally, I support Cashman, but realistically the GM position is never a lifetime gig. At some point, Cashman will go. I think he has one more year left on his contract (please correct me if I’m wrong. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised to see a divorce between the 2 parties.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I don’t he think he ever leaves the Yankees, to be honest. Not that we go out for beers or anything (just whores), but Cash always comes off as very, very comfortable as a member of the Yankee brass. I’m totally on board with Mike’s idea of a bump up after this, or next, season.

      It’s not a lifetime gig, though, as you say, and it shouldn’t be a lifetime gig. Good organizations bring in new blood in leadership positions and don’t keep the status quo for too long.

      • jjyank

        I agree with that. Honestly, I don’t see a situation where the Yankees fire Cashman, and he goes on to do something else. He’s been with the team his entire career. At some point, they’re going to bring in someone new, or promote someone from within, to be the next GM. But I see the Yanks moving Cashman somewhere else or giving him the Theo Epstein position rather than a complete break.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I think one of the potential incorrect leaps in thought some folks make is that they think Brian secretly wants to go somewhere and indulge his inner small-market GM. He doesn’t necessarily have to want that.

          I’m glad you agree that Brian Cashman and I go out for whores. Clearly, there, Cashman failed.

          • ropeadope

            I’m glad you agree that Brian Cashman and I go out for whores

            But only before Mrs. T entered your life, correct?

            • Robinson Tilapia

              This IS a closed forum, isn’t it? I mean….no one else can read any of this on the net, right?

              *gulp*

              • jjyank

                *plots course to a certain university in new Jersey*

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  None of this was me! Someone must be faking my screen name! Axisa alert! Axisa alert!

                  • ropeadope

                    It’s extremely fortunate you just happened to be checking the board in such close time proximity to the username hijacking. Praise the Lord!

              • ropeadope

                Yes, of course.

                lol, submitted comment 1/2 hour ago but lost my internet connection. Now I really am goin’ back to bed.

          • Bubba

            I am just speculating on a hypothesis here but it’s not so much the inner small-market GM as building something that’s his. Rightly or wrongly, the championships during his era are often attributed to Stick and/or money. It seems that he would have a tough time distancing himself from those two issues while with the Yankees.

            As for the other part, it’s whore island, isn’t it?

  • Mike HC

    Nice work on these Matt. I see you got a lot of love in the Part 1 comments, so to break up the love fest, I have a small critique.

    I would have been more interested in some YES behind the scenes type stuff. Like how often the YES guys socialize with the team and/or with each other? Favorite guys to work with? Living life on the road type questions. And other stuff like that. We hear Ken’s opinions on these current Yankees topics basically everyday on YES, I would have been more interested in some YES related questions.

    • http://riveraveblues.com Matt Warden

      Hi Mike — thanks for the feedback. I think that’s a great idea. Next time I have an opportuntity to chat with Ken, I’ll dive into some of those questions. Consider it on my agenda.

  • Eddard

    Kenny is one of the best broadcasters in the game. I loved these interviews. Next I would try to get Coney to discuss sabermetrics and pitching, or Paulie to discuss hitting and food.

  • Jack P

    Meh, Ken seems to be toeing the party line instead of voicing his own opinion in this freedom bastion that is America.

    • Mike HC

      haha, yea, after the “brief pauses … This is America. You say what you want,” part, I got excited that Ken was about to say something stupid, ha. But he never did.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Seems like the complete opposite to me. In a world where every radio host wants to openly speculate as to what goes on behind closed doors, it’s refreshing to hear someone say, “Know what? I have no clue what goes on behind closed doors, and neither do you.” In the end, that’s as honest as can be.

    • pat

      HAHAHAHAH thank you for that.

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      Well played.

  • Captain Turbo

    Kenny is a class act.

    • Wheels

      Ken Singleton is also an awesome sounding baseball name.

  • CS Yankee

    My favorite O’ behind Boog and Brooks, and my favorite YES guy behind Coney (Paulie and Al tied for 3rd).

    He the type of announcer that the more you hear from him the more you like, similar to Scully in that regard…the exact opposite of McBucCarver.

    Good stuff, Matt.

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      He’s up on the top of the list alongside the aforementioned Scully and Uecker for me.

      • Sweet Dick Willie

        Nobody is “alongside” of Scully.

        There’s Vin, then a chasm wider than the Grand Canyon, then whoever is second.

        • TomG

          Nobody since Harry Kalas passed. Loved that guy.

  • Chris

    I have always enjoyed listening to Ken, he has a calming broadcasters voice. One I prefer of the obnoxious, overbearing type. Matt, great questions, it was interesting to see his answers in regards to the trade deadline. I think we all are guilty (especially Mike) of speculating to the point of making it a reality. “They should have done this, the could have done that ” etc., when in fact they may not have been actual options. In regards to third base , they have 40 million locked into that position this year, throwing another 5-7 or so probably was not that appealing while giving up a few prospects. Along those lines is anyone other than me happy A-Rod is appealing his suspension?

  • Kiko Jones

    If I had my choice it’d be KS with the play-by-play; Coney and O’Neill doing the color commentary.

    Btw, sometimes when doing out-of-town games—please stay home Bob Lorenz!—KS and Flaherty switch roles and…good Lord is Flaherty crappy with the play-by-play. Let Singleton do it, for Pete’s sake!

    Also, KS has my favorite HR call, “…this one is gone!”

  • Jessenyfan

    You know, it really bothers me that I like an Oriole as much as I do. I guess it dates me, but he was very clearly one of the Enemy growing up. If he wasn’t from Mount Vernon I couldn’t stomach it.

    Now he is my favorite of the Yankee broadcasters by far.

    Thank you for the interview- it is so easy to hear KS speaking the words when one reads it.

  • http://comcast.net john

    Mr Singleton. I have one question, which everyone seems to ignore. You tell us how bad Hafner, Wells have tapered off. What do you say about Cano? He has been horrible since the AS break and do YOU really think that Cano is WORTH $220++million? He AIN’T. Let him go and get a high draft pick. Cano is lazy and has been and always will be lazy.

  • Patrick

    Pretty absurd amount of typos in this post. Who is editing you, Warden?

    • http://Riveraveblues.com Matt Warden

      Apologies, Patrick. I’ll try to be more diligent about catching these typos. I spent several hours transcribing this conversation and after typing it out and staring at it for so long, typos slip through the cracks. If you shoot us an email with spelling or grammatical corrections that you noticed, I’ll update the post accordingly.