2013-2014 Offseason Calendar

Wednesday Night Open Thread
Cashman: Still no update on status of coaching staff
Technically not a Yankee right now. (Jeff Zelevansky/Getty)
Technically not a Yankee right now. (Jeff Zelevansky/Getty)

The Red Sox beat the Cardinals to win the World Series last night, meaning the offseason is now underway. At 9am ET this morning, all eligible players officially became free agents. Robinson Cano, Hiroki Kuroda, Curtis Granderson, Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain et al technically are not Yankees right now. They’re aren’t anything. They’re unemployed. They can’t sign with new teams just yet, but they’re not Yankees either.

Now that the offseason has started, I figured it was worth putting together a list of important dates. There are a lot of them, some more important than others. Here’s a look at what lies ahead in the coming weeks and months:

  • Next Monday, Nov. 4th: Deadline to make free agents a one-year, $14.1M qualifying offer and also the deadline for option decisions. The Yankees need to hear from Derek Jeter about his $9.5M player option for 2014 (still no word) and they’ll make the qualifying offer to Cano and Kuroda. Maybe some others.
  • Next Tuesday, Nov. 5th: End of the exclusive negotiating period. As of 12:01am ET, free agents can negotiate and sign with new teams.
  • Nov. 11th: Last day for free agents to accept or reject qualifying offers. Players who reject will net their team a supplemental first round draft pick if they sign elsewhere.
  • Nov. 5-14th: Awards season. The announcements are spread out to keep people interested.
  • Nov. 11-13th: GM Meetings in Orlando. Not a ton of exciting stuff happens at these — a bunch of rumors and maybe a transaction or two, but these meetings deal mostly with business items.
  • Nov. 20th: Deadline to set rosters for the Rule 5 Draft. OF Slade Heathcott and C Gary Sanchez are the team’s most notable Rule 5 Draft eligible players. They have to be added to the 40-man roster.
  • Dec. 2nd: Deadline for clubs to offer contracts to players with less than six full years of service time, otherwise known as the non-tender deadline. A fresh new batch of free agents will hit the market on this day. Jayson Nix and Chris Stewart are New York’s most notable non-tender candidates.
  • Dec. 9th: Last day to open a 40-man roster spot(s) prior to the Rule 5 Draft. Teams without open spots can not make any picks.
  • Dec. 9-12th: Winter Meetings in Orlando. All hell breaks loose during the first three days (the fourth day is kind of a bore). There will be rumors and trades and signings galore. Most of the biggest offseason moves will happen here.
  • Dec. 12th: Rule 5 Draft. This is the unofficial end of the Winter Meetings — everyone leaves after the draft is over, the place turns into a ghost town — and the start of what amounts to a holiday recess. Baseball news tends to slow to a crawl after this date and usually doesn’t pick back up until January.
  • January: Deadline for each side to submit arbitration filing figures. Eligible players submit one salary, the team another. The exact date is unknown but it’s usually in the middle of the month. The Yankees have seven arbitration-eligible players, most notably David Robertson, Brett Gardner, and Ivan Nova.
  • February: Arbitration hearings throughout the month. The two sides can agree to a contract at any point prior to the hearing, even after submitting figures. The Yankees haven’t gone to an arbitration hearing since beating Chien-Ming Wang in February 2008.
  • Mid-February: Pitchers and catchers report to Tampa.

It’s also worth noting that at some point before March 10th, the Yankees have to send someone to the Mariners as the player the be named later in the Brendan Ryan trade. I wouldn’t expect it to be a significant (or even an actual) prospect and the deal will probably be completed long before that date. Should happen relatively soon. Just a loose end that needs to be tied up.

Jeter’s option decision is the most immediate and pressing item for the Yankees. I expect him to exercise it after what even he called a nightmare season. It’ll also be interesting to see how the club weighs potential draft picks against staying under the $189M luxury tax threshold when they make (or don’t make) qualifying offers. Are they willing to risk getting saddled with a player they don’t want/can’t afford? Considering all the money the team has coming off the books and the overall disappointment of 2013, I expect this to be one of the busiest offseasons in the Bronx in a long time. I just have no idea what to expect.

Wednesday Night Open Thread
Cashman: Still no update on status of coaching staff
  • http://www.twitter.com/mattpat11 Matt DiBari

    If nothing else its nice to finally have Phil and Joba off the team officially

  • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixiera – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew)

    I tried to drink so much last night that I would forget that there was even a World Series to begin with. Didn’t work.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    And, just like that, poof, the standings are reset, and I can’t wait for pitchers and catchers to report.

    • http://www.twitter.com/mattpat11 Matt DiBari

      Spring Training bores the ever loving piss out of me. Its just sooooooooo looooooong.

      Can’t wait for opening day in Australia. That’s fun.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I enjoy those couple of weeks during exhibition games when the actual prospects get a few at-bats before being sent to minor league camp and having those relief at-bats being taken over by the org guys. Then again, I kind of enjoy actually seeing what some of the org guys look like as well. Don’t get too many shots at that.

        January through the first Spring Training game usually does fucking suck, though.

        • Laz

          It is essential though.
          It builds anticipation for the new season.

    • JU

      Can’t wait for ST. Does anyone know when they will announce the schedule? I need to plan my trip to Tampa this year baby

  • Pseudoyanks

    Let’s hope the theory that you want your rival to be great to push you/yourself to even higher greatness holds true this off-season. Busy off-season, at the very least. Personally getting psyched for college basketball as my alma mater looks like they will have a good team this year for the first time in a very long time….

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Hey, I actually disagree with the notion that the Yankees have to make moves based on what Boston does. They’re just one team the Yanks have to worry about in the end. However, sure, the extra kick in the pants certainly doesn’t hurt.

      • Pseudoyanks

        RT, I think we are likely talking about two different things. I, like you, oppose tit-for-tat forced roster moves that follow a rival (rSux pick up a reliever so Yanks sign another closer) to get headlines or make the fans perceive the front office is busy. What I meant was something entirely different and specific to this off-season. Yanks have wholesale changes to make. I want them to achieve off-season roster creation genius this winter and have that translate into on-field excellence in 2014. Hopefully, their rival’s achievements this month makes Steinbrenners and Cash achieve greatness.

        • I’m a looser baby so why don’t you kill me?

          Off season roster creation genius

          That’d make a good handle.

  • mt

    I believe Arod’s lawyer has said it’s possible he may need more than a week to present his evidence when arbitration hearing resumes the week of November 18th. If sides have to meet again, that next meeting may not take place until December. I continue to have a fear this decision will not come down until late December or even January.

    (Side note: In hindsight and it’s easy for me to say but somehow MLB really needed to force thesmelves and arbitrator to get all the testimony part done in October – maybe have a more available arbitrator – in the interim, the leaks and the other side show stories have not made either side look good as this thing has played ou.)

    So how do Yanks approach free agents and trading if they don’t know what will happen with Arod? How do they approach winter meetings December 9-12? Cashman said at end of season he has to assume Arod is there all year in 2014 in their planning but that’s such a big $33.5 million swing ($27.5 mm AAV and $6 million HR bonus) and if Yanks do assume that and also have to budget $25 million for Cano re-upping on a long-term deal, there is not a lot of room to add several good players making any type of significant salary (assuming $189 mm still holds).

    Maybe their chief focus in the short-term will be to try to win Tanaka bid since posting fee doesn’t count against salary cap and under all scenarios they need starters. Of course they’ll focus on re-signing Cano (but he has gained the right to take his sweet time hoping for that one bid from another team that blows everybody out of water; don’t see a quick resolution here unless Yanks want to make an over-pay type bid immediately), Kuroda and either Granderson on QO or Beltran on 2 year deal. I am not sure how Yanks participate in a McCann level FA competition (assuming that is direction they want to try) without Arod news settled. Maybe they will have to “settle” for shorter term, lower AAV deal players like AJP or Ruiz.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      You have to assume that, even if Alex were to be around for all of 2014, which I think is pretty unlikely, we’ll be fortunate if he gives us 100 games. I think you still go out there and find a starting third-baseman and assume that Alex and Derek are going to get plenty of DH at-bats. This is where your Pandas, and whoever else becomes available, become strong options.

      I’m willing to engage in McCann bidding, but that shouldn’t be first priority here, not when you’re carrying FIVE catchers on your 40-man. I understand why, but get the rotation, third base, UTL, and the outfield sorted out first. I can live with Lettuce Man, JR, and whatever half of Stewvelli lives in the interim.

      What happens with Alex should not have any effect on how the teams proceeds. If they choose to make it that, that’s on them and they’re selling themselves short if they do so.

      • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

        Agreed entirely.

        I think the Yankees should definitely make a play at McCann, but that position should not be top priority considering the other holes.

    • LK

      “Side note: In hindsight and it’s easy for me to say but somehow MLB really needed to force thesmelves and arbitrator to get all the testimony part done in October – maybe have a more available arbitrator”

      I agree with most of your post, but just FYI these things literally never go quickly – if anything this is proceeding much faster than legal proceedings normally do. Doesn’t make it any less annoying, but there was no way it could’ve been avoided.

      • Robinson Tilapia


  • Andrew Brotherton

    Finally the offseason is here. I wonder who all will get non-tendered, usually there is a good player or two hidden in those lists.

  • hey now

    Cashman to Cherington: “Hey Ben, after you get done putting together your 2014 roster, do you think you can help me with mine?”

    • Pinkie Pie

      Actually what I think he’d ask Cherington is “Hey Ben, can you get the Dodgers to take our heinously long and expensive contracts for undeserving players off our hands too?”

      • Robinson Tilapia

        “Hey Ben, congrats. Give me a high five…..oh, sorry, did that hurt? I’ll take off the five rings next beforehand next time.”

        • Pinkie Pie

          Brian’s actually only got 4, but your point has been duly noted.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Still hurts just as much.

          • TheEvilUmpire

            Nope, he’s got 5. He was Assistant GM under Watson for the ’96 run. It counts.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              I should trust my first instincts more.

          • Darren

            Actually, Cashman does have five rings. He got one in ’96 was when he was an assistant GM to Bob Watson.

            • Pinkie Pie

              He’s only had 4 as the head honcho though. And if you really want to nitpick, he inherited a pretty stacked team (not implying that he didn’t help it get that way).

    • http://www.mises.org The Economist

      “And can you tell me how to dupe a team into taking your expensive garbage? Oh, and also tell me how you get teams to forget how to play when playing you too”

  • steves

    The truth about the Red Sox lies somewhere between the awful 2012 version and the slicker than snot 2013 version. Both years were outlier performances (bad and good) cast among mediocrity throughout the rest of the baseball world. Even if they brought back the same squad they are headed for a fall back to the pack due to age of key players (Ortiz and Uehara) and the return to normalcy from the players who were stuck on performing beyond their true talent modes all year. I am not concerned about the Yanks catching and passing them shortly even if they don’t spend blindly this off-season.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I think trying to take them down a notch after they won the WS doesn’t make us look all that great as fans but, yeah, we’re talking a fuckton of best-case scenarios for the Sox this season. Shuffling that deck, or bringing back the same cast, is more likely than not to yield the same results.

      • steves

        Let’s put it this way; if the Yanks were in the same division as the Dodgers I would be more worried more about the Yanks immediate future. Various iterations of the Red Sox (75-78 and 98-05) were more talented credible threats to the Yanks than the current Red Sox version.

        • Robinson Tilapia


      • Baked McBride

        What really kills me is that they managed to slap together such a good (for one season) bullpen after being forced onto plan D. This is what did it for them – managing to stop the bleeding in late innnings until their O inevitably put up some runs.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Bailey, Melancon, Hanrahan, Miller….

          How many guys fell right on their ass before Uehara rose to the task? I still remember the Yanks handing Tazawa his ass repeatedly. Workman…

          Something else, ain’t it? Clearly just part of Cherington’s master plan. Yanks should emulate that. Have a bunch of so-called names fall apart for a few years, then reveal the REEEEEEEEAL bullpen. I’m sure lightning would strike twice.

          • Baked McBride

            hey, they got lucky, defied the odds, and managed to keep it up for 7 months. I wonder if Ortiz’s off-color comments to the crowd after the bombing really did loosen guys up, bring them together and help them understand how they own Boston…I good laugh leads to another, leads to dinners, leads to friendship and teammmates, leads to 81 Green Bay Packer home games…

            • JohnnyC

              I guess everyone forgets Ortiz called Boston a shithole just last season. Imagine anyone letting ARod forget saying that about New York.

              • Robinson Tilapia

                Places with TRUE blue-collar, hard-working, honest Americans who love their baseball are often confused for shitholes by foreigners embraced by the city. That’s what the motivational facial hair represented.

                Also, apparently, even though a gazillion people live in Boston, according to a friend of mine, you’d be surprised to know that everyone knows one another. That’s the kind of town it is.

                Disney fucking modeled Celebration, FL after Boston.

                • Silvio

                  “Places with TRUE blue-collar, hard-working, honest Americans who love their baseball are often confused for shitholes by foreigners embraced by the city. That’s what the motivational facial hair represented.”

                  The first sentence is absolutely true, but I couldn’t figure out what you meant by the second sentence.

                • JohnnyC

                  I will admit he was slightly misquoted. He actually said about Boston: “This is OUR fucking shithole.” So there.

      • Lurking

        Show me a championship team in any sport and I’ll show you a team that yes had a lot of luck and also very few injuries. I don’t think I’ve ever seen any team benefit from more luck/choking than your beloved Heat against the Spurs last year. I think an asterisk for biggest choke in NBA history needs to be placed next to Miam Heat 2013 Champs. So there.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I’m neither denying the Sox’s right to that championship, nor the Heat’s right to theirs. At the end of the day, both teams are champions, no matter how much luck or this or that got them there.

  • viridiana

    If Jeter exercises option Yanks on hook for 15.5 mill in luxury tax calculation. Assuming they want to stick with 189 plan, wouldn’t it make sense to ask DJ to turn down option. Then offer him 2 or 3 year deal at say $5-6 mill per year. Would really increase Yank flexibility under 189. And Jeter would wind up earning much more. If he exercises option, this could be his last year. Just a thought.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      I think options count as entirely seperate contracts. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

    • mt

      There is one commenter here who has a very good handle on MLB luxury tax calculations (I can’t remember his name) who insists that in your scenario (which is similar to one I had proposed) the Yanks will have to pay all in 2014 (!!) the approximate $9 million penalty for under accruing at $14 million the AAV for 2011-2013 (first three years of what was scheduled out to be a four year contract including option year).

      If Jeter declines option AAV over those years should have been more like $17 million per year ($48 million salary plus $3 million buyout cost divided by three.)

      So your new lower AAV 2014-2015 contract defeats the purpose of removing Jeter’s $15.5 million from this year’s calculation. At the new $6 million per year AAV plus the $9 million penalty, we would be back to a $15 million hit for Jeter in 2014.

      I had also hoped that the under accrual could be attrributed back to 2011-2013 where Yanks don’t really care that much if they would have to go back and pay more taxes for those years.

      I am hoping he is wrong but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about.

  • your mom

    This season could not have ended any worse for us Yankee fans. Anyone but the fucking Red Sox………..sheesh! Them winning the WS was the icing on our shit cake.

  • gbyanks

    I have a feeling that we will go hard after Tanaka and Garza. After that im not sure what we will do, I cant help but doubt they will sign someone that receives a QO. Maybe hope beltran doesnt get one, trade for a third baseman and try and go into the year with 3 first rounders again.

  • Nathan

    I used to be giddy when the off-season came, usually as a way to get excited about something after a non-championship season. It meant George would bring in some FA, just something to look forward to.

    I no longer get excited about such things though this season something HAS to happen, I’m just tapering expectations.

    Oh and this is going to be a long baseball year. I’m looking forward to this time next year so that I don’t have to hear “defending champions” anymore…hopefully…

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I remember more scenarios under Papa Bear where that DIDN’T happen than ones that did.

    • Jonathan C.

      I also remember waking up, checking ESPN.com, and seeing a little box in the corner saying that we signed Jaret Wright and Tony Womack. So there are those George memories as well.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I notice who you ommitted there.

        • Jonathan C.

          That one was at least semi-defensible at the time.

  • Grover

    Yikes. Thanks for the updated depth chart. I am also surprised that nearly all of the comments regarding Jeter have him simply opting in. I would think he might work a deal with the team with whom he will likely work for the rest of his life and quite possibly have some form of ownership in the future. I am equally surprised at so many posters in favor of extending the qualifying offer to Hughes. I continue to believe we are looking at a historic slow play until the Arod arbitrator has rendered his decision and it might end up being a wise path in retrospective.

  • ppiddy

    I definitely have the River Avenue “Blues” after watching the Sox win it all last night. Will Cashman and Co.’s plans during hot stove season cure my malaise?


  • Mandy Stankiewicz

    ” I continue to believe we are looking at a historic slow play until the Arod arbitrator has rendered his decision” yes, he’s officially on our payroll until he’s not.

  • Mike

    I’m a lifelong Mass Yankee fan. I’m thoroughly sickened by the Red Sox championship; I will be putting up the obnoxious regalia for several months, not looking forward to it. I miss the passion, the fire, that the Boss instigated and demanded from the team. We really need to have a blistering off-season to help convince me that Hank and Hal give a crap about Yankee pride.

  • Pat D

    This calendar omits the various HOF voting. That will be fun this year.

  • Mike

    Heard they were changing the posting rules so that Japanese players get to choose between the top bids.

    It would suck if the bids were close and Tanaka choose Boston because of their success.