Dec
06

Update: Mariners close to deal with Robinson Cano

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10:53am: The Mariners and Cano are close to a deal worth “at least” $225M, reports Jon Heyman. Enrique Rojas says it’s a ten-year, $240M contract, for what it’s worth.

10:20am: Ken Rosenthal says talks between Cano and the Mariners are “still alive.” I get the sense that one side (Mariners) leaked the initial report of the snag and the other side (Cano) leaked the report that things were alive. Posturing!

8:26am: Via Mark Feinsand: The Mariners have broken off contract talks with Robinson Cano due to Jay-Z’s excessive demands. Feinsand says the team was led to believe the nine-year, $225M offer would get it done, but Jay-Z asked for ten years and $252M at the last second. CEO Howard Lincoln “exploded” and ended the meeting. Scott Boras must be loving this.

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League

165 Comments»

  1. Kramerica Industries says:

    WOO-HOO!

    • Massapequa Parking says:

      what he said

    • Tisha says:

      What does this tell us ? Cano and JayZ did not really want to go to Seattle. They used them to up the anty with the Yankees, They both want him to stay here,
      His teammates , including Andy and Mariano are calling him and telling him this is place he needs to be. His family wants him here.

      • nycsportzfan says:

        He signed with Seattle. THey gave him 10yrs! My god thats ridiculous. It makes it easier to say by to Robbie, knowing he got a 10yr deal and almost 250mil

      • nycsportzfan says:

        He signed with Seattle. THey gave him 10yrs! My god thats ridiculous. It makes it easier to say by to Robbie, knowing he got a 10yr deal and almost 250mil

  2. Robinson Tilapia says:

    I could have done a load of laundry last night.

    • I'm a looser baby so why don't you kill me? says:

      So psyched that I saw this before reading through the entire comments section in the other thread!

      Also BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA on JZ with the Mets, Seattle, et al nonsense.

      I still think it’ll be 8/200 before all is said and done. And I’m okay with that.

      • Rick says:

        I think those will end up being the figures as well. Give or take a couple million each way.

      • Tisha says:

        so am I.200 million for 8 yrs. Tex is gone is 3 more years with A Rod the next year and CC the year after. That is that bad to “suffer” , Hal.
        Angels are stuck with Pujols for 6 more years and Hamilton 5 more years. Rangers are stuck with Fielder for 6 more years.

  3. Andrew Brotherton says:

    This is great news for the Yankees as Cano now has no-one to pit the Yankees against. I’m guessing the chances of him accepting 7yr 175 is very good.

  4. MB923 says:

    Does Jay-Z really expect Cano to get more than $225 mil from any team, or does he just want Cano to play for Seattle?

  5. ChrisS says:

    Contract negotiations by twitter … what a clown show.

  6. El Maestro says:

    They realized that Cano is just trying to use their offer as leverage

    • Pseudoyanks says:

      Cliff Lee trade Karma coming back to Seattle ?

      • Tisha says:

        Jack Z deserves to go screw over by the Yankees, First he screwed us with the Lee Trade and then stuck us with damaged goods in Pineda. Pay back are bitch, Jack Z.

        • MannyGeee says:

          Nope, the story is not written on Pineda yet. We gave them damaged good in a ‘almost’ catcher that can’t hit a fucking breaking ball. Torn shoulder capsule is ALOT easier to fix than that IMO

          • Cool Lester Smooth says:

            Torn labrum.

            His shoulder capsule is perfectly intact, that’s why he’s expected to make a full recovery.

  7. TWTR says:

    The Yankees should hold firm.

  8. mitch says:

    if he hasn’t already, i think Cano will regret switching from Boras to Jay Z

  9. FLYER7 says:

    Cano’s camp is a train wreck from Jay Z to Jose Cano…think Cash should sign Beltran or Choo and amp up the pressure…

    • TWTR says:

      I hope Hal lets him.

    • Tisha says:

      Jose Cano wants his son to stay with the Yankees,

    • Adam R. says:

      The Yankees should make Carlos Beltran a 3year offer for 15 a year and get that deal done with. I know they don’t want to offer hi 3 years, but with Beltran (a huge postseason clutch player) and Ellsbury (also a .300 hitter in the post season), the Yankees would finally have that clutch factor with the passion and heart the team would need. Then, have Cano crawl back if the talks with Seattle have indeed fizzled due to Jay Z’s ridiculous demands. That would be a monstrous Yankees team if they indeed signed Beltran and then Cano on their Terms. Imagine:
      Ellsbury CF Jeter SS Cano 2B Beltran RF Teixeira 1B McCann C Soriano DH Johnson 3B Gardner LF

      That Lineup is a mashing lineup with speed and a huge clutch factor. Once A-Rod is suspended too, the Yankees 2014 Salary will be around 189 million maybe a couple million over.

  10. Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead says:

    Bye Bye Robbie!

    Hello Robbie!

    Wait hold on Robbie I don’t know which colloquialism we’re supposed to be using today!

    He” be a Yankee. We’ll pay too much. Everyone will moan and groan, and then next year we’ll win the world series, and everyone will be happy. And then people will forget about that happiness 2 weeks later when we still haven’t signed whoever the free agent in vogue is at the time.

    As the world turns.

  11. RobA says:

    Everything is posturing until he signs. Its not like Seattle is a non factor now. If they were willing to pay $250 million yesterday they will do so today, if Jay Z ever comes to his senses.

    Seems like he’s trying to make his own big splash rather then do what’s best for his client. Cano isn’t going to vet better then 9/$225.

    • They weren’t willing to pay $250M yesterday. That was the whole issue.

      • RobA says:

        $225 is what I meant. My point is, they didn’t truly close negotiations and throw away the key

        • No, of course not. Even when closed, they could always be re-opened. The CEO flipping his shit isn’t a great sign for that though.

        • Havok9120 says:

          You already had rumors that ownership was less than enthused with the 9/225. Throw in the blow up by the CEO, the lack of suitors within 50 million of that offer, and an apparently intractable novice leading the negotiations…

          Not really a recipe for continued talks. At least not soon.

          • Mike HC says:

            Would you rather play for the Yankees at 7 years 175 million, or the Mariners for 9 years 225 million. I know I would choose the Yanks without even a thought. Sorry if Seattle’s CEO is offended.

            • Havok9120 says:

              Not the point. I’m responding to Rob’s idea that the offer must still be on the table (and thus useable as leverage) and Cano’s team turning it down/pulling a bait and switch has no effect on that.

              • Mike HC says:

                True. Not sure how long Seattle was going to allow themselves to be left hanging anyway, but if these reports are true, it seems they lost Seattle as leverage pretty quick.

          • I'm a looser baby so why don't you kill me? says:

            Exactly. Don’t know how stubborn the owner is, but this doesn’t bode well for 9/225 ever happening in Seattle. To put it mildly.

  12. yeayo says:

    If Cano’s only concern was money for his next contract than Jay-Z just screwed him. The Marniners were desperate to make a big splash this off-season and it seemed like they were willing to give Cano the biggest contract out of all the teams in league. With this news breaking out, Cano has zero leverage with the Yankees. If Jay-Z was smart, he would have dragged the negotiations out with the Mariners to get the Yankees sweating, but instead he pushed the Mariners to the limit and now Cano has to start all over again.

  13. John C says:

    HAHAHAHA!! F*CK You JayZ!! Now you come crawling back on your knees to the Yanks

  14. JV says:

    I’m really starting to feel bad for Seattle. They can’t get anyone to take their offers seriously.

    I’m still a little puzzled over the money and years given to Ellsbury but they won’t budge with Cano. I get not wanting to increase your offer if your offer is the only one on the table but I wish they would just get it done and re-sign him.

    • mitch says:

      I think fans of Seattle are probably breathing a sigh of relief. They should take that $225mil and spread it around. Then maybe they’ll build a decent foundation that great players would actually want to join.

  15. Nas says:

    Jay Z: 10 for 252.

    Howard Lincoln: JIGGA WHAT?! JIGGA WHO?! Meeting over!!

  16. Mr. Roth says:

    It kind of seems like this is more about Jay Z being able to put some lyrics in a song about negotiating 10 year deals than anything else.

  17. CountryClub says:

    It was reported last night that they asked Yanks for 9/252 with 28 mil vesting option.

    So it make sense that they would ask Seattle for 10/252. No state tax in Washington so it’s very similar to what they’re asking the Yanks for.

    No reason for NY to budge off 7/175 right now.

  18. Chris Z. says:

    If I had to guess, the number Seattle was offering wasn’t as important as the gap between the Yankees and Mariners offer. The gap was around 50 mil and 2 years. I’d assume the Yanks countered into the 180 range but not much more which reduced the gap and forced Jay-Z to go back to the Mariners and demand more. The Yanks may have gone 8-185 or even near 200 and the gap isn’t good enough for Cano.

  19. KevinD says:

    This makes no sense to spring a tenth year at the last minute like that. It seems like its amateur hour over at the JayZ offices. The right play would have been to drag it out as long as possible. Who knows what signings around the league could have happened to strengthen Cano’s asking price.

    Now JayZ just loses credibility imo. What a fiasco this. LOL Robbie Cano wanted the big time…it’s a big time circus show.

  20. Steve D Fl says:

    lmao, nice move Jay Z jackass!!!

  21. LarryM Fl says:

    Jay-Z when you are playing a team to drive up the market. It becomes apparent if you attempt to up the offer especially if its your highest offer.

    New York State of mind does not work in Seattle.

  22. Mike HC says:

    I’m struggling to believe anything reported at this point.

  23. hogsmog says:

    I don’t think Jay-Z is crazy. It makes sense to ask for something insane, then approach a deal from above, not below. He’s given Cano leverage; even if it’s fake leverage, it’s doing its job.

    It’s entirely possible that they have a plan along the lines of, “I want to play in NY or LA for the most money possible, make it happen.” They can afford to do stuff like this, especially so early in the offseason (Cano is not only the best free agent on the market, but may be the very best 2B in baseball). It’s not like the man won’t have a job by spring training.

    • Mike HC says:

      Yea, I mean, if it is true that the Yanks still have an offer out to Cano for 175 million, that is a great deal! I can’t seem to get all riled up about Jay Z being a clown, buffoon agent when he already has an offer from the New York Yanks for 175 million fucking dollars! Saying all that, I’m still confused about how much Jay Z is doing and how much CAA is doing.

    • I'm a looser baby so why don't you kill me? says:

      It’s not what he asked for. It’s how he did it. When one side says or intimates that 9/225 would do it, and the other says great, here’s 9/225, then responding with anything other than done deal is super bad faith. Depending on how stubborn M’s ownership is, they may not ever be willing to revisit 9/225.

      If all this is true then JZ has done an incredible disservice to his client, and also looks extremely bad himself in the process.

  24. Chris Z. says:

    The Mariners balked at the idea of giving Cano an apartment on top of the Space Needle and 65% of the Seahawks.

  25. Vern Sneaker says:

    I’m sure there’s lots of temptation for Steinbrenner to pull the plug on this charade and spend the money on the other pieces we need. I believe we can build a playoff-level club using that money without Cano. But I also believe we can do that with Cano at 7/$175 as long as A-Rod is suspended at least 100 games. For me the concern is starting pitching and a closer. I love D-Rob but have my doubts about him as a closer.

    • kenthadley says:

      the problem now is Cano thinks 7/175 means the Yanks don’t want him, according to his old man. How does anyone feel dissed at 25mil a year? If Cano even signs close to that, he’ll be media blasted enough to have it affect his on-field performance. This guy will be running even fewer AB’s out as time goes on and his skills/psyche take hits. His first real slump will bring the world down on him for these negotiation hi-jinx. Yanks might be far better off in long run to let him go. Use the $ on pitching, get a stop gap 2B…heck, they won with Willie Randolph and Mariano Duncan at 2B.

      • Vern Sneaker says:

        Agree with all that as real issues but curious about the Randolph comment. He was a star.

        • kenthadley says:

          yes, but he was not nearly the hitter that Cano is. My point is you don’t need to have Cano…with the $ yanks have, it can be made up around the diamond. Get a good glove, average hitter at 2B for a third the cost, and use 15 mil on other areas.

          • Vern Sneaker says:

            Gotcha, and I agree we can potentially do it without Cano. Just wanted to make sure we weren’t putting Willie into the “average” 2B class. I wish we could replace Cano with a Randolph.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

        When they won with Randolph, Randolph posted fWAR’s of 4.2 and 5.2. (bWARs of 4.6 and 5.8)

        Let’s not act like Randolph was a scrub. He was an all-star 2B.

    • I'm One says:

      As the old saying goes, there are many ways to skin a cat, so I generally agree with you. I am less concerned with signing a “closer”, but I definitely feel starting pitching and late inning relief help are needed (not necessarily a closer, but a good set up man that might also work in the closer role if needed).

      I want Robbie back, but also realize he might not be a true necessity. He just makes it much easier to field a top tier team in 2014.

  26. RobA says:

    This just in:

    Jay Z now has 100 problems. (Bitch still ain’t one)

    • mike says:

      That was funny.

      it is really amateur hour with this whole idea, but Cano/Jay Z/whomever really missred the market last year – they thought LA, Detroit and maybe even a sleeper team (Phillies??) would blow up the market for Cano, and they could extract$ from the Yanks…

      unfortunately with Utley and Pedroia signing small comp deals, and LA signing the Cuban guy, and Kinsler going to Det… there is no place for him to go.

      I think that for all of Boras’ issues, he and his team are wired in to the league, whereas I think people are somewhat turned-off by the thought JayZ would waltz in and blow up the country club….so the inside info Boras ( and other agents like Tellum used to get) is not being made available to jay Z’s team…. leaving him all dressed for the prom and his chubby ex-girlfriend his only date :)

  27. Bronx Bombers23 says:

    To all of you who were up here yesterday clamoring for the Yankees to go to 8/200+ what say you now?

    Seattle was a bluff all along. Cano and Jay-Z had no intention of signing with the Mariners. When Seattle upped their offer to 9/225, I guarantee you Jay-Z panicked and was thinking “How can we get out of this?!?”. That’s when he throws out 10/252.

    I’ll keep sounding like a broken record but here goes…7/175. If you want to stay a Yankee that’s all you’re gonna get. The Yankees have every bit of the leverage, and Jay-Z has proven he is in way over his head. Stay on their original offer and don’t budge an inch.

    • Mike HC says:

      The fact that 7 for 175 million is now considered “all you’re gonna get,” is crazy. If that is now the very least Cano will make, and the offer is from the greatest baseball franchise in history, I would say that is pretty damn good.

    • Reggie C. says:

      True. But Perhaps a team like the Nationals can jump in and though they have NO incentive to match SEA’s offer, the Nationals can go in at 8/200. That might push Cashman or Hal/Levine (who’s running the show i dont know) to go in another year + $25 MM.

      At this point, Jay-Z really needs a third team to get in there at $200MM. I dont think ANY other team will match what SEA was prepared to do.

  28. Long-Past-His-Day-Rod says:

    Had em’ out in Safeco/chillin’ with the reps/makin’ counter offers/I say Cano’s the best/pissing off the M’s/begging Cashman with a text/I have no fucking clue what I’m about to do next

    This is very entertaining, but I still haven’t seen anything that makes me worry that Cano won’t be a Yankee in 2014 and beyond.

  29. PunkPitch says:

    Hello Brian. This is Jay-Z. Yes, I’ll bring my knee pads.

  30. Reggie C. says:

    If Seattle’s 9/225 is still on the table … and it may actually not be anymore bc Jay-Z’s counter-offer is arguably a REJECTION of the SEA offer (right BEN K??) and therefore SEA would have to resubmit the 9/225, then Jay-Z needs to get a third team involved to compel the Yankees to come up to $200 million.

    At this point, I kinda expect the Nationals to come in at 8/200. I agree with what a few here are saying: Cano does not want any part of that SEA team.

    • I'm a looser baby so why don't you kill me? says:

      Pretty sure when an owner blows up and tells you to go fuck yourself the offer is considered off the table.

    • Scott Boras says:

      Counteroffer explodes an offer (legally it’s not on the table).

      But if Jay Z was like “would you do, 10/$252?” That probably wouldn’t explode the offer (because it’s not a hard counteroffer. He’s just asking if they’d do it). But I don’t think the Mariners CEO would flip out if Jay-Z said that.

  31. Lokijam says:

    How can Yankee fans not see this for what it is. And I’m a Yankee fan! JayZ is a slumlord he cud give 2 shits about Cano or the Yankees. It’s an embarrassment. cano literally has ruined his career signing with this pariah. U think JayZ cares about how much he makes off the cano deal? It’s a game to him and camps the pawn. Real sad.

  32. I'm a looser baby so why don't you kill me? says:

    Kuroda!!

  33. Scott Boras says:

    lol

  34. JayZ is a buffoon says:

    He’s a useless tool that exploits the worst attributes of his own race, while sitting on a mountain of BS. I’ve seen this train wreck coming for months. I can’t say “good, serves them right” because the problem with JayZ is a whole lot deeper than just Robinson Cano. It really speaks volumes about the direction of our society and it also speaks volume about how utterly unprepared JayZ is to engage in extremely high net worth negotiations with individuals who have amassed amazing ludicrous amounts of wealth the old fashion way, while JayZ did so by drug dealing and “rapping” about his 99 problems, formerly bitches, and whatever other plights he has with life itself.

    [end of rant]

    • Mike HC says:

      “with individuals who have amassed amazing ludicrous amounts of wealth the old fashion way”

      Through inheritance?

    • JayZ is a buffoon says:

      I could see the negotiation going something like this:

      Howard Lincoln: We are prepared to bring Robinson to Seattle for the next 9 years and we’ll pay him $25mm per year, which is a total of $225mm.

      JayZ: Yo, my man gotta get paid. You bring him $2fitty million and wez gotsa deal.

      Weather you like it or not, some iteration of that likely went down. There is no reason a CEO would combust otherwise.

      • Mike HC says:

        This is from Wiki, so not saying it is true, just saying this is his reputation.

        Howard Lincoln’s Wiki page: “His inability to retain successful field managers and general managers like Lou Pinella and Pat Gillick, CARTE-BLANCHE ATTITUDE TOWARDS SUPERSTAR PLAYERS, contentious relationship with local media, and pattern of questionable hiring decisions have led to increasing calls within the fanbase for Lincoln to assume a less active administrative role.”

        There are two sides to this circus. Maybe they still could have landed Cano if this guy didn’t blow his lid.

      • Cool Lester Smooth says:

        Holy Ebonics, Batman!

        Please, try to sublimate your real problem with Jay-Z a little more effectively.

  35. Reggie C. says:

    Master P could’ve handled these negotiations better.

  36. Dr. Grenaldine says:

    The doctor doesn’t like illuminati wannabe, Jay Z.

    I do like Robinson Cano, however.

    He’s just what the doctor orders for the Yankees.

  37. Dan says:

    At this point, Cano and company gains nothing by signing before the winter meetings. They have to hope they can drum up interest there.

  38. melvin says:

    Strategy of travel to seattle for yankees increment the bid. Is logic. cano not want leave of new york.

  39. Stuntcocks says:

    That sound you hear is Robby knocking out Jay-Z’s chiclets…go back to the clubs homey

  40. Pasqua says:

    Rosenthal now saying talks wit M’s are ongoing, not off.

    As the curveball turns…

  41. RetroRob says:

    Sounds to me, though, as if a deal will eventually be reached if for no other reason than the offer is way past what the Yankees have proposed.

  42. LiterrallyFigurative says:

    Don’t dance on the grave just yet children. The talks aren’t dead yet.

    And to jayz is a buffoon:

    Your need to inject race into this shows you are the buffoon. You think white dude Scott boras never asked for an extra year or salary for his client? You don’t have to like the move, but to think jayz is casting a bad light on blacks by being one of the few agents (and one who will grt his client one of the top deals in history) speaks to some deeper issue you have.

  43. Eddard says:

    The day for players over 30 years old getting $200+ million over 8+ years are dead. No team is going to give that and Jay Z should realize that. A player like Trout could get such a deal because he’s so young. A 31 year old is nearly past his peak years. If the Mariners want to give Cano $200 million let him walk. Look at the Angels and their albatross contracts.

  44. Carini says:

    If you can make Scott Boras look like a good guy you know you’ve screwed up.

  45. Dave says:

    Let Cano go sign with the Mariners…him and JayZ will look like failures…..
    I hope the yankees keep that line in the sand..7 years at most 23.5 mil at most…..he doesn’t put any fannies in the seats…no one goes to yankee stadium to see his loafing butt………

  46. Need Pitching & Hitting says:

    Have fun in the rain, Robbie.

    Calling Omar Infante…

    • Josh S. says:

      And just like A-Rod, he’ll be demanding a trade in 3 years after finishing in last place every year. But he’ll be well paid.

    • Bavarian Yankee says:

      lol. If the Yankees didn’t offer anything close to 200 I kinda understand signing with the Mariners. But still … I mean he wastes his prime years playing for a non-contender. So be it I guess. Now let’s sign Beltran (or Choo, if that’s a realistic option)!

  47. RobA says:

    And now can to the Ms for $240.

    And all of a sudden, Hov looks like a genius. What a difference an hour makes.

  48. Mike HC says:

    Shiiiiiiitttttt … I thought at the end of the day Cano was going to sign with Yanks. This is a huge blow.

  49. OMG! Bagels! says:

    If Robbie goes to the hippy dippy Seattle, no one will be asking him to hustle round the bases. They should go to Seattle for less money but include a “no unnecessary exertion” clause so Robbie isn’t required to break a sweat. Ever.

  50. Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead says:

    I’ll miss him, but even had we not signed Jacoby, I don’t think the Yankees were going to go that high.

  51. Dr. Grenaldine says:

    I think the Yankees already knew about this before the public which led to their signing of DLsbury.

    The doctor is not happy.

    • RetroRob says:

      Cano’s agent, let alone Cano, hadn’t met with the Mariners when the deal was announced. Yet they might have suspected they weren’t going to sign Cano based on the meetings they had last week. If they knew Cano was going for the money, which he’d get from some team, they might have starting moving to plan B.

  52. FLYER7 says:

    McCann? Check Johnson? Check Ellbsury? Check Johnson? Check…

    I say next up is Beltran or Choo, trade Gardner. sign Reynolds, sign Infante, wait for Tanaka to be posted.

  53. Dave says:

    Bye bye Robbie… Was fun, but we’re moving on…

    Crazy to think he’ll be in Seattle. Did he forget that is a pitchers park and that they suck? Guess all he really cared about was the money after all.

    Hoping we go hard after Beltran/Choo with the money saved. While it certainly doesn’t fill the whole of Cano, it’s at least 75%.

    • RobA says:

      Can’t put this on Cano. I’m sure he would’ve given some discount , but not a $65 million one. Can’t fault the guy for that.

  54. John C says:

    Heyman tweeting that Cano and Mariners have agreed on 10 year 240 mill deal, pending physical. Looks like he’s gone!

  55. Dropped Third says:

    Robbie to Seattle 10 year 240 Million.. Sad day for me. Loved Robbie but at that cost I’m glad we passed. Now the real fun begins for Cashman.

  56. Gerald Williams says:

    The Mariners just signed him according to mlbtr and espndeportes… damn. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....-cano.html

  57. Jonathan says:

    He’s getting 10 years $240M…wow…i’m stunned. Stupid fucking Mariners had to ruin it for everyone.

  58. Mike says:

    Just heard on the radio…Cano is a Mariner..10 yrs 240 million..Wow

  59. Bavarian Yankee says:

    SERENITY NOW!!!

    but seriously: I’d be really upset if he signed that contract with the Yanks.

  60. dmatt23ingly says:

    Good riddance Cano! You don’t have half the heart that Jeter or Mariano have! I won’t be pissed watching Cano not run out a ground ball anymore because he will be on the opposite side now! The average person would just be happy to make an honest living paying their bills with some extra money, but these athletes have become way to greedy! We have soldiers putting their lives on the line for our Corrupt government who don’t get paid anywhere near what these athletes are getting paid, but we have these idiots trying to drive up the price of their contracts by millions of dollars because of pure greed! I remember when baseball players didn’t get paid squat they were merely out there for the love of the game, to get paid for something they loved to do! Where has all of that gone, out the free agency window!

    • RobA says:

      You know what’s better then hustle and heart? .900+ OPS’s combined with elite defense up the middle.

      • dmatt23ingly says:

        Maybe if he put a little more of those two into it he could possibly be an MVP! A little hustle could change ground ball outs into defensive mistakes! Why be good when you could be great! He definitely has the talent but takes if for granted!

    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead says:

      You know what?

      Fuck. That. Shit.

    • FirstTimeLongTime says:

      I’m hoping this is a joke. Remind me of exactly when professional baseball players were merely out there for the love of the game. True, salaries are through the roof, but thats because of US – not them. If we are willing to pay to watch (either in person or on TV) the money will always be there to spend.

      I challenge you as a fan – are you watching for the love of the game or for the reflective glory of a win? Do you feel as good (and support the team monetarily) exactly the same whether they are winning or losing. No one is involved for the love of the game.

      We as fans like and support winners, usually with our checkbooks. Owners and players know this (and always have) and react accordingly.

      If you want to really effect change in this system (which by the way is the law of supply and demand so good luck with that), be out at Yankee Stadium when the team is playing poorly for a few seasons, cheering as loud as you can and buying up all the souverniers you can. That’s how we’ll know you’re “in it purely for the love of the game”.

      • dmatt23ingly says:

        Seriously! Can’t afford to go to games because they are not affordable to bring your family to! I do love watching the sport, that is why I can watch other teams play, not just the Yankees! I don’t root for them, I just enjoy watching a good game! I don’t need to show the world I am a Yankee fan, that is just a poser who needs to show off! I think you have this all backwards! I was a Yankee fan from the start, back in the ’80s when they had terrible teams but I never gave that up just because I wanted to like a winning team! Maybe you should know what you are talking about before you start throwing comments out there judging me!

    • Kiko Jones says:

      Players are greedy and disloyal but teams aren’t? No one deserves to make the crazy money these guys get for playing a game, but to criticize them for wanting to make as much money as possible and give owners a pass for doing the same thing is both absurd and ridiculous.

      Life goes on…

  61. Jonathan says:

    I guess if the Mariners were smart enough to realize this is the desperate move of a dying GM that won’t be around for the fallout….they wouldn’t have Jack Z as their GM. Instant albatross and they still suck. Unreal. I’m praying for us to swoop in and offer 8/200 and him reject the Mariners so we can get Robbie back and pay them back for the Lee deal.

  62. neo says:

    “dontcha know, Robinson C…” oh no!

  63. Marcus says:

    Am I being too harsh by saying Feinsand looks pretty foolish right now?

  64. dmatt23ingly says:

    done deal, cano is a mariner

  65. John Duci says:

    This hurts we should have just gave in and gave him the money he makes us so much better. Moving forward I want Choo and Tanaka. Also sign garza/infante/Balfour.

    Pitching 1. Cc sabathia 2. Mashiro Tanaka 3. Matt garza 4. Hiroki Kuroda 5. Ivan nova 6. Michael Pineda.
    Balfour closer with Robertson setup man.
    Lineup
    1. Ellsbury
    2. Choo
    3. Jeter
    4. McCann
    5. Soriano
    6. Texiera
    7. Arod
    8. K. Johnson/infante
    9. Gardner

    And I think this is a World Series contending team.

  66. dmatt23ingly says:

    Soriano back to 2nd base?

  67. Mike says:

    Granderson 4yrs 60 million to the Mets..

  68. trr says:

    To lose a player of Cano’s stature is never a cause for celebration.
    Will Seattle regret this contract one day? Of course! Just as the
    Yankees will regret the awful Ellsbury contract. Now we need to go forward and patch the holes, hopefully add another offensive threat, but more importantly, we need pitching! and lots of it.

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