Dec
13

Olney: Royals agree to four-year contract with Omar Infante

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Via Buster Olney: The Royals and Omar Infante have agreed to a four-year contract worth $30M. The Yankees were after the free agent infielder pretty much all winter in case Robinson Cano signed elsewhere, which he obviously has done. Their offer to Infante topped out at three years and $24M, reportedly.

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  1. TheRealGreg says:

    Yankees are phoning the Reds as we speak.

  2. dkidd says:

    mark ellis please

  3. dars says:

    Missed opportunity. He’s apparently too inexpensive for the Yankees taste.

    Kelly Johnson and Eddie Nunez is not a championship infield…..

    • Preston says:

      Is Infante? I’m not sure paying for inflated BABIP is a good plan. I wouldn’t bet against Kelly Johnson being better than Infante next season. LHP in Yankee stadium with more walks. I agree that Nunez shouldn’t even be on the 25 man roster.

  4. Da says:

    This is absurd. Yankees could have got him for 7.5 a season. Such a joke.

  5. Good decision in my book. He fits the Kansas City style anyway a bit more in my book.

  6. Fin says:

    My guess is 3 years was one more year than the Yankees wanted to give and 4 was out of the question, I cant blame them for that.

  7. Steinbrenner's Ghost says:

    Willie Randolph is available.

  8. Jorge Steinbrenner says:

    Not a fan at all on missing out there. Easy way to have second taken care of. Easily would have done four years at that price. The road to having a solid option at second gets a ton harder now, and now second AND third become either addressed through the trade market or stopgaps. Bad move.

    And, yes, I feel this way about Omar Fucking Infante. Things done changed around here.

    • TheRealGreg says:

      Why third? Kelly Johnson can play 3rd. We don’t want him playing second

      • TheRealGreg says:

        And platoon him with Mark Reynolds.

      • forensic says:

        Ah, and clearly you’re basing this on his huge sample size of 118 career innings at 3B.

        The numbers generally aren’t going to mean much at either positon, at least just from last year, but in similar innings he had similar defensive numbers. He’s probably right around or just below average at both spots. And the main point is that they’d like to find a righty to somewhat platoon with him.

        • TheRealGreg says:

          And as I said above, Mark Reynolds.

          • forensic says:

            Reynolds has nothing to do with what you said about not wanted him to play 2B. And if you think Johnson can’t play a position defensively, have you ever even watched Reynolds on defense???

            I continue to stand by not wanting anything to do with Reynolds on this team. I’d almost prefer to have another Nunez season than Reynolds.

            • TheRealGreg says:

              I meant platooning Reynolds and Johnson at 3rd, which covers that position.

              And the reason we don’t want Johnson to play 2nd is because that means we would be weaker at third base.

              2nd is going to take little bit more thought. Mark Ellis is probably the best option outside of trade right now.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner says:

              Easy there, cowboy. I’m not enthused as to a Reynolds reunion either, but this is not a good time to be without a third baseman. I’d be fine with settling for him if we also brought in a capable second baseman.

              At least he’d bring some illusion of power to go with his 200 strikeouts.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

              Agree on Reynolds. Any role that requires him to play a lot of 3B (which is the only role they currently have for him) makes him basically a replacement level player.
              Need to find something better than that – easier said than done, though.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Open a vein, Fish-Fingers. ;)

      Is crossing something off the list really worth getting a guy who isn’t likely to wow you on either side of the ball and who has a decent chance of falling off the position before the end of the contract without having much of any utility anywhere else? Or have we forgotten those age curves for 2B that scared the crap out of us with Cano? It’s an overpay for his career year and because he’s the big name left on the market.

      Had he signed for three years and more money I would be sad the Yanks didn’t beat the offer. I’m not all that depressed they wouldn’t spring for the fourth year.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner says:

        You mean this didn’t read through the troll filter as “I WANT TO BLOW ALL TEH YANKEEZ?”

        At 7.5 a year, I’d have taken the hit. Wasn’t afraid of the fourth year, to be honest.

        • I'm a looser and a trader baby so why don't you kill me? says:

          Wow I feel like I’m getting to you! ????
          There is nothing, and I mean !!nothing!! Pollyanna about your comments here.

          Surely this brings you down to a 6??

      • Jorge Steinbrenner says:

        I also have no interest in Mark Ellis, other than Option E, and Kelly Johnson cannot be pencilled in to a starting role on a team that has spent as much as the Yanks have this offseason. That should just be flat out illegal.

        • Havok9120 says:

          So, what, is this a name thing then? Because in terms of what you can expect out of Ellis/Infante, they aren’t hugely different players at the end of the spreadsheet. Even Johnson, while certainly a step below, is not some enormous downgrade.

          Sure, I’d have preferred Infante. But that last year or so has a decent shot at being pretty ugly, and I don’t think he’s enough of an improvement over the alternatives to warrant the pay differential or the risk.

          • forensic says:

            I agree, even three years for Infante was a little stretch for me, but I could’ve been convinced. If they can get Ellis for one year, I could deal with it fine. He seems like he could be better defensively than Infante, and can at least hold his own around average vs. lefties.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner says:

            Did you know that Infante was my mom’s second husband’s last name? In other words….actually, it has nothing to do with it.

            I think Ellis could be serviceable in 2014. Then what, though? Go through this again next off-season? Actually, how does next season look 2B-wise?

            • forensic says:

              http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....gents.html

              There isn’t much at 2B, though it’s hard to imagine there’s a good 2B market ever. There are a few somewhat interesting SS’s on the list, and maybe one would be willing to move to 2B. Though, there is, of course, the possibility that the Yankees will also need to fill the SS position next year too.

              It’s not ideal, but it’s also far from a sure thing that Infante will really be that much better than them. Especially considering the extra cost and years you may be investing in him beyond 2015.

      • vicki says:

        (fish fingers: lightbulb.)

    • Laz says:

      Infante is nothing more than a stopgap. I won’t blame them for not wanting to go 4 years on someone at that price.

  9. vin says:

    I thought he’d be a good fit (or as good as can be, anyway).

    Ellis and Reynolds will have to round out the position players.

    Look at the bright side… it’s more money to spend on Tanaka!

  10. Jeff says:

    Yanks cant do 4/30??? You have to be kidding!
    Youre paying ichiro like 6M to be a 4th outfielder. Were talking starting second baseman here!
    Infield holes just got bigger with the thin FA market. Gardner looks like a goner now for a trade.
    All for 6M more than we offered and an extra year!!

    • TheRealGreg says:

      Look at the math.

      Yankees were offering 8 million a year
      Royals offered 7.5 million a year.

      The money offered has nothing to do with this. The years is the key.

    • Fin says:

      Come on many, hes coming off a career year at the age of 31. The odds are pretty solid he turns into a pumpkin any day. You really want to blast the Yankees for not committing 4 years to him?

  11. Gary d says:

    Fellow yankee fans: please stop penciling in brendan ryan and kelly johnson into your “starting lineups”. I realize this past season of utter nonsense has lulled you into a comatose mentality and lowered your expectations. We are the yankees. We need quality starters. Infante was one of them, between the trout comments and now this, cano is laughing his a** off

    • TheRealGreg says:

      Don’t let Axisa read that. He loves Kelly Johnson

    • Fin says:

      Yea, you guys going nuts over the Yankees not giving fucking Infante 4 years, will be the first ones laughing at how stupid the Royals were when a 32yr old Infante reverts back to his 2012 levels next year 257/.283/.385. Four years at 7.5m for a big time pumpkin candidate is stupid, not the Yankees.

    • Havok9120 says:

      Yeeeeeeaaaah. And if he reverts to his 2011-2012 numbers in the next year or two (not out of the question for a 31 year old 2B), are you gonna come back on here and apologize to us for overreacting?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting says:

        He’s been a 2+ WAR player for 4 straight years now. His 2011-12 numbers would upgrade the current roster.

        That said, I can see not wanting to go 4 years.
        They’re running out of viable ways to bridge the remaining gaps though.

        • Havok9120 says:

          Oh, I know it’d still be 2+ WAR and upgrade the roster. I’m well aware of that. But big enough an upgrade to warrant both the risk of him turning into a pumpkin AND the likely large overall pay differential between Johnson and, say, Ellis?

        • Fin says:

          Yea, and at 2 years, the contract would have been fine, at 3 its probably not so good, at 4 years…forget about, it in my opinion. THe guy will be 32 next year and all of a sudden People want to pay an aging 2nd baseman through his age 36 season, who is a prime candidate to suck as soon as next year.

  12. will says:

    Yankees definitely want to be open in 4 years for trout…. that’s why they wouldn’t commit 4 years to infante

    • forensic says:

      Because Infante would block Trout from moving to 2B?

      I don’t have a problem with them not going four years for him, but it has nothing to do with Trout (who will quite possibly be extended in one way or another by the Angels before then).

  13. BrahNick says:

    Mark Ellis somehow had a 3.0 WAR with a .270/.323/.351 line last year. He’s 36 years old and a righty. He’d probably be cheap, he’s never made more than 6 mil in one season.

    With that in mind, Brandon Phillips is 32, had only a 1.6 WAR, .261/.310/.396 and could cost the Yankees Brett Gardner and more than $10 mil a year.

    Cost considered, I’d rather have Ellis. Way better deal despite the “name power” behind Phillips.

  14. TheRealGreg says:

    And once again, our head honcho is right on the money

    Mike Axisa ?@mikeaxisa 2m
    The Yankees could probably sign both Mark Ellis and Mark Reynolds with the $8M they were willing to pay Infante in 2014.

  15. Mike HC says:

    ARod is quickly becoming our only hope. Not that Infante was really anything to get excited about anyway.

    • RetroRob says:

      Seriously, the best thing that could happen to the Yankees is the Yankees operate under the belief that A-Rod is suspended for 2014 (I think they do believe that), and then they spend big in the free agent market (as they have so far), including landing Tanaka in January, and then find out that A-Rod’s suspension has been overturned, or that he’ll only get 50 games. The Yankees will curse, then welcome him back and be a better on the field for it.

      • Havok9120 says:

        No joke. I’d love to have his 50-211 game suspension upheld, have him file for and receive an injunction pending the court case, and have him play most/all next season. Gimme that bat in the lineup.

  16. vicki says:

    first, i don’t like phillips either.

    but what if you take gritner completely out of it. what if it’s a salary dump so the reds can re-sign choo. how much would the reds have to pay for us to bite? remainder of his contract is 4/50.

    • forensic says:

      I’d be pretty hard pressed to deal with him no matter what.

      I guess if they ate about $50 million and threw in Homer Bailey (or a better pitcher), maybe I would start to think about it.

      • vicki says:

        you make a fair point. his 2013 was pretty close to mark ellis’s, though he may have hit into a teensy bit of bad luck.

        seems like a dick anyway.

        • RetroRob says:

          I suspect the Yankees do have an interest in him, but not at the price for Gardner and only if the Reds ate a good deal of his contract.

          All his trend lines look bad. Maybe he just had an off year, but he looks like a guy who is just about toast.

  17. Das says:

    Reading this thread make me weep that we have so many idiots as Yankee fans. Giving Omar Infante four years?! The question is why the hell would the Royals do that? We have these bad small market teams, flush with cash, spending silly money on bad players.

  18. stupidmove says:

    Stupid move letting him go at that price. Seriously, they’re going all out for Tanaka which means they’re blowing past 189 so why not give this guy the extra year he wanted for a very good upgrade over the next couple years?

    Penny wise and pound foolish if you ask me.

    • forensic says:

      The extra year has nothing to do with going past $189 or not. They already offered more per year than the Royals did. I’m not going to go crazy about not stretching to go four years for Omar Infante.

    • Havok9120 says:

      They are betting 2013, the year he is getting paid for, is not representative of what can be expected over the next few years. Then there’s the whole “2Bs age poorly” thing. Not to mention that if he falls off a cliff he’s basically about as useful as Wells. His versatility seems a lot more theoretical at this point than most people seem willing to admit.

  19. stuckey says:

    I sometimes find my fellow Yankees only slightly less unseemly and embarrassing as those parents on HBO’s Trophy Kids.

  20. Pasta says:

    I know this guy named Murphy on the Mets …….

  21. Larrym Fl says:

    The Yankees made the proper decision to stick to their offer. Infante is a good second baseman. He would handle second base well and not be a cause for concern. But four years is a bit long. Something will come up that will make us forget about Mr. Infante. In other words he was not a game changer. He was a piece in the puzzle. If Kelly Johnson can play a good defensive second base. He may hit well enough in Yankee stadium to bring us a few wins. I would leave Johnson at second and work on a platoon at third or a trade. I like Prado at third but Jeter might find his a$$ there if Drew is signed to play SS. I must be dreaming.

    Gardner for pitching only IMHO.

  22. BrahNick says:

    Can Stephen Drew play Third Base?

    • forensic says:

      In all likelihood, he can. The main questions are if he ‘would’ play 3B and whether it really helps the Yankees to get another lefty batter who can’t really hit lefties much at all.

  23. Cuso says:

    There’s going to be a soft spot at 2B regardless of whether that got Infante.

    Was he really going to make a difference as to the offseason outlook? There’s going to be a hole there – ACCEPT IT. There is no FA that is going to plug that hole and Kendrick is not likely attainable from Angels. Any pursuit of BP is a misstep that takes away what the focal point of the FO at this point:

    Pitching!

    Nobody will give a shit about “not getting Infante” once the staff starts to take shape. The primary need is finding at least one more starter and filling the pen out.

  24. greg says:

    Maybe Tanaka can play second base when he’s not pitching. Or how about Horace Clarke?

  25. Al says:

    Daniel Murphy?

  26. Farewell Mo says:

    To think not too long ago the Yankees infield sported Teixiera, Jeter and Arod (before they got old and shitty) and Cano and now will be some combination of a washed up Teixiera, over the hill Jeter, can’t hit Ryan, 305 OBP Kelly Johnson and maybe Mark Ellis and Mark Reynolds?

    jeez.

  27. He went to Jared says:

    If only we could put Soriano back at 2B. Oh nostalgia…

  28. There's the Door says:

    I say again, they have signed their last free agent of note. If Alex’ suspension holds, they will be below 189. That is the plan.

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  30. qwerty says:

    2014 infield:

    3B Nunez
    SS Ryan
    2B Johnson

  31. There's the Door says:

    Again: Yanks have signed their last notable free agent. The plan is to hope Alex’ suspension is upheld, and if it is, to stay under 189.

  32. mustang says:

    There are a lot of second base options that are in the same boat as the Yankees catching core young and unproven with some upside so maybe look there.
    If not move on to Mark Ellis and Mark Reynolds and call it a day not going to cry over Infante.
    FO has been very impressive this off-season.

  33. Dan in Athens says:

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  34. Mike says:

    Talk about an overpay. Glad we didn’t sign that guy. He’ll be 35 at the end of that contract.

  35. Mark L. says:

    At USD 4.8 million next year, and with Sogard, Lowrie, Donaldson, and Punto already on the roster, Alberto Callaspo is looking like a very expensive backup in Oakland.

    I’m always wary of dealing with Beane, but maybe he sees something in our farm system that would make a deal possible.

  36. Chris z says:

    I like the way the Yanks are holding their ground this winter. In years past we’ve seen them overpay by large sums for players and they drove the price of being a Yankee up quite a bit. Almost setting a premium on playing here, would automatically get you above market price.

    I like how they are trying to reset their own market a bit and not pay an extra few mil to everyone. Divide that out over 4-5 FA’s and the savings can be substantial.

    They could stay under 189 by holding firm with these FA’s and not getting pushed around in prices or getting too overwhelmed and overspending.

    • Alkaline says:

      It is quite interesting to see them draw the line in the sand. So long we heard/suspected other FA just used the Yanks as leverage to drive up that price. What happens now when the Yanks refuse to meet that price?

      I’m thrown off by the 189 now. It seemed that they tossed it out the window, but we can’t be positive of that. It’s difficult to meet now, but would kind of suck giving out the money to Mccannonball and ‘Coby then stay put. If they are going to go all out, don’t half ass it.

      • Fin says:

        It killed Cano that the Yankees drew the line in the sand at $175. He only ended up getting $240m. It killed Infante too, he only ended up getting $30m over 4 yrs. All that drawing a line in the sand does is cost the Yankees players, which is fine. The fact is players will go to where the most money is, if that’s not the Yankees they will go somewhere else. All this does is shatter fans illusions that all these players wanted to be Yankees at any cost, it just so happened the Yankees payed them the most. When, infact players want to play for whatever team pays them the most.

  37. Alex21 says:

    Sign uribe to play 3B and put Johnson at 2B.

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