Olney: Royals agree to four-year contract with Omar Infante

Update: MLB to investigate Randy Levine for possible tampering
Sherman: Yankees have "little interest" in Brian Roberts

Via Buster Olney: The Royals and Omar Infante have agreed to a four-year contract worth $30M. The Yankees were after the free agent infielder pretty much all winter in case Robinson Cano signed elsewhere, which he obviously has done. Their offer to Infante topped out at three years and $24M, reportedly.

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Update: MLB to investigate Randy Levine for possible tampering
Sherman: Yankees have "little interest" in Brian Roberts
  • TheRealGreg

    Yankees are phoning the Reds as we speak.

    • forensic

      Not a chance.

    • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

      You really think Joe Morgan will come out of retirement?

      • dkidd

        somewhere, ron oester is staring at his phone…

        • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

          Billy Beane says we can teach Scott Hatteberg to play 2nd. In his words, “it’s not that hard”.

  • dkidd

    mark ellis please

  • dars

    Missed opportunity. He’s apparently too inexpensive for the Yankees taste.

    Kelly Johnson and Eddie Nunez is not a championship infield…..

    • Preston

      Is Infante? I’m not sure paying for inflated BABIP is a good plan. I wouldn’t bet against Kelly Johnson being better than Infante next season. LHP in Yankee stadium with more walks. I agree that Nunez shouldn’t even be on the 25 man roster.

      • Havok9120

        Talking Dars down from the ledge on any move or non-move is a lost cause.

  • Da

    This is absurd. Yankees could have got him for 7.5 a season. Such a joke.

    • TheRealGreg

      Yankees were offering 8 million a year. Just one fewer year

    • forensic

      They offered him 8 a season. It’s not the money, he wanted more years. I can’t blame the Yankees much for not wanting to go too long with him.

    • Havok9120

      Math fail.

      It’s years, not AAV. I have a hard time getting ticked that they wouldn’t go four.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

    Good decision in my book. He fits the Kansas City style anyway a bit more in my book.

    • dkidd

      you mean his low OBP?

      • Preston

        They still think BA is the only way to measure a player.

  • Fin

    My guess is 3 years was one more year than the Yankees wanted to give and 4 was out of the question, I cant blame them for that.

  • Steinbrenner’s Ghost

    Willie Randolph is available.

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    Not a fan at all on missing out there. Easy way to have second taken care of. Easily would have done four years at that price. The road to having a solid option at second gets a ton harder now, and now second AND third become either addressed through the trade market or stopgaps. Bad move.

    And, yes, I feel this way about Omar Fucking Infante. Things done changed around here.

    • TheRealGreg

      Why third? Kelly Johnson can play 3rd. We don’t want him playing second

      • TheRealGreg

        And platoon him with Mark Reynolds.

      • forensic

        Ah, and clearly you’re basing this on his huge sample size of 118 career innings at 3B.

        The numbers generally aren’t going to mean much at either positon, at least just from last year, but in similar innings he had similar defensive numbers. He’s probably right around or just below average at both spots. And the main point is that they’d like to find a righty to somewhat platoon with him.

        • TheRealGreg

          And as I said above, Mark Reynolds.

          • forensic

            Reynolds has nothing to do with what you said about not wanted him to play 2B. And if you think Johnson can’t play a position defensively, have you ever even watched Reynolds on defense???

            I continue to stand by not wanting anything to do with Reynolds on this team. I’d almost prefer to have another Nunez season than Reynolds.

            • TheRealGreg

              I meant platooning Reynolds and Johnson at 3rd, which covers that position.

              And the reason we don’t want Johnson to play 2nd is because that means we would be weaker at third base.

              2nd is going to take little bit more thought. Mark Ellis is probably the best option outside of trade right now.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              Easy there, cowboy. I’m not enthused as to a Reynolds reunion either, but this is not a good time to be without a third baseman. I’d be fine with settling for him if we also brought in a capable second baseman.

              At least he’d bring some illusion of power to go with his 200 strikeouts.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting

              Agree on Reynolds. Any role that requires him to play a lot of 3B (which is the only role they currently have for him) makes him basically a replacement level player.
              Need to find something better than that – easier said than done, though.

    • Havok9120

      Open a vein, Fish-Fingers. ;)

      Is crossing something off the list really worth getting a guy who isn’t likely to wow you on either side of the ball and who has a decent chance of falling off the position before the end of the contract without having much of any utility anywhere else? Or have we forgotten those age curves for 2B that scared the crap out of us with Cano? It’s an overpay for his career year and because he’s the big name left on the market.

      Had he signed for three years and more money I would be sad the Yanks didn’t beat the offer. I’m not all that depressed they wouldn’t spring for the fourth year.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        You mean this didn’t read through the troll filter as “I WANT TO BLOW ALL TEH YANKEEZ?”

        At 7.5 a year, I’d have taken the hit. Wasn’t afraid of the fourth year, to be honest.

        • I’m a looser and a trader baby so why don’t you kill me?

          Wow I feel like I’m getting to you! ????
          There is nothing, and I mean !!nothing!! Pollyanna about your comments here.

          Surely this brings you down to a 6??

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            Wasn’t I at a six this week? I don’t remember.

            I’m allowed to not like something every now and then. :)

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        I also have no interest in Mark Ellis, other than Option E, and Kelly Johnson cannot be pencilled in to a starting role on a team that has spent as much as the Yanks have this offseason. That should just be flat out illegal.

        • Havok9120

          So, what, is this a name thing then? Because in terms of what you can expect out of Ellis/Infante, they aren’t hugely different players at the end of the spreadsheet. Even Johnson, while certainly a step below, is not some enormous downgrade.

          Sure, I’d have preferred Infante. But that last year or so has a decent shot at being pretty ugly, and I don’t think he’s enough of an improvement over the alternatives to warrant the pay differential or the risk.

          • forensic

            I agree, even three years for Infante was a little stretch for me, but I could’ve been convinced. If they can get Ellis for one year, I could deal with it fine. He seems like he could be better defensively than Infante, and can at least hold his own around average vs. lefties.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            Did you know that Infante was my mom’s second husband’s last name? In other words….actually, it has nothing to do with it.

            I think Ellis could be serviceable in 2014. Then what, though? Go through this again next off-season? Actually, how does next season look 2B-wise?

            • forensic

              http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....gents.html

              There isn’t much at 2B, though it’s hard to imagine there’s a good 2B market ever. There are a few somewhat interesting SS’s on the list, and maybe one would be willing to move to 2B. Though, there is, of course, the possibility that the Yankees will also need to fill the SS position next year too.

              It’s not ideal, but it’s also far from a sure thing that Infante will really be that much better than them. Especially considering the extra cost and years you may be investing in him beyond 2015.

      • vicki

        (fish fingers: lightbulb.)

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          Funny part is that this is actually the first screen name I ever used on Yankee blogs.

    • Laz

      Infante is nothing more than a stopgap. I won’t blame them for not wanting to go 4 years on someone at that price.

  • vin

    I thought he’d be a good fit (or as good as can be, anyway).

    Ellis and Reynolds will have to round out the position players.

    Look at the bright side… it’s more money to spend on Tanaka!

  • Jeff

    Yanks cant do 4/30??? You have to be kidding!
    Youre paying ichiro like 6M to be a 4th outfielder. Were talking starting second baseman here!
    Infield holes just got bigger with the thin FA market. Gardner looks like a goner now for a trade.
    All for 6M more than we offered and an extra year!!

    • TheRealGreg

      Look at the math.

      Yankees were offering 8 million a year
      Royals offered 7.5 million a year.

      The money offered has nothing to do with this. The years is the key.

    • Fin

      Come on many, hes coming off a career year at the age of 31. The odds are pretty solid he turns into a pumpkin any day. You really want to blast the Yankees for not committing 4 years to him?

  • Gary d

    Fellow yankee fans: please stop penciling in brendan ryan and kelly johnson into your “starting lineups”. I realize this past season of utter nonsense has lulled you into a comatose mentality and lowered your expectations. We are the yankees. We need quality starters. Infante was one of them, between the trout comments and now this, cano is laughing his a** off

    • TheRealGreg

      Don’t let Axisa read that. He loves Kelly Johnson

    • Fin

      Yea, you guys going nuts over the Yankees not giving fucking Infante 4 years, will be the first ones laughing at how stupid the Royals were when a 32yr old Infante reverts back to his 2012 levels next year 257/.283/.385. Four years at 7.5m for a big time pumpkin candidate is stupid, not the Yankees.

    • Havok9120

      Yeeeeeeaaaah. And if he reverts to his 2011-2012 numbers in the next year or two (not out of the question for a 31 year old 2B), are you gonna come back on here and apologize to us for overreacting?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        He’s been a 2+ WAR player for 4 straight years now. His 2011-12 numbers would upgrade the current roster.

        That said, I can see not wanting to go 4 years.
        They’re running out of viable ways to bridge the remaining gaps though.

        • Havok9120

          Oh, I know it’d still be 2+ WAR and upgrade the roster. I’m well aware of that. But big enough an upgrade to warrant both the risk of him turning into a pumpkin AND the likely large overall pay differential between Johnson and, say, Ellis?

        • Fin

          Yea, and at 2 years, the contract would have been fine, at 3 its probably not so good, at 4 years…forget about, it in my opinion. THe guy will be 32 next year and all of a sudden People want to pay an aging 2nd baseman through his age 36 season, who is a prime candidate to suck as soon as next year.

  • will

    Yankees definitely want to be open in 4 years for trout…. that’s why they wouldn’t commit 4 years to infante

    • forensic

      Because Infante would block Trout from moving to 2B?

      I don’t have a problem with them not going four years for him, but it has nothing to do with Trout (who will quite possibly be extended in one way or another by the Angels before then).

  • BrahNick

    Mark Ellis somehow had a 3.0 WAR with a .270/.323/.351 line last year. He’s 36 years old and a righty. He’d probably be cheap, he’s never made more than 6 mil in one season.

    With that in mind, Brandon Phillips is 32, had only a 1.6 WAR, .261/.310/.396 and could cost the Yankees Brett Gardner and more than $10 mil a year.

    Cost considered, I’d rather have Ellis. Way better deal despite the “name power” behind Phillips.

  • TheRealGreg

    And once again, our head honcho is right on the money

    Mike Axisa ?@mikeaxisa 2m
    The Yankees could probably sign both Mark Ellis and Mark Reynolds with the $8M they were willing to pay Infante in 2014.

    • kenthadley

      +1

    • trr

      I love the Marks Brothers

  • Mike HC

    ARod is quickly becoming our only hope. Not that Infante was really anything to get excited about anyway.

    • RetroRob

      Seriously, the best thing that could happen to the Yankees is the Yankees operate under the belief that A-Rod is suspended for 2014 (I think they do believe that), and then they spend big in the free agent market (as they have so far), including landing Tanaka in January, and then find out that A-Rod’s suspension has been overturned, or that he’ll only get 50 games. The Yankees will curse, then welcome him back and be a better on the field for it.

      • Havok9120

        No joke. I’d love to have his 50-211 game suspension upheld, have him file for and receive an injunction pending the court case, and have him play most/all next season. Gimme that bat in the lineup.

  • vicki

    first, i don’t like phillips either.

    but what if you take gritner completely out of it. what if it’s a salary dump so the reds can re-sign choo. how much would the reds have to pay for us to bite? remainder of his contract is 4/50.

    • forensic

      I’d be pretty hard pressed to deal with him no matter what.

      I guess if they ate about $50 million and threw in Homer Bailey (or a better pitcher), maybe I would start to think about it.

      • vicki

        you make a fair point. his 2013 was pretty close to mark ellis’s, though he may have hit into a teensy bit of bad luck.

        seems like a dick anyway.

        • RetroRob

          I suspect the Yankees do have an interest in him, but not at the price for Gardner and only if the Reds ate a good deal of his contract.

          All his trend lines look bad. Maybe he just had an off year, but he looks like a guy who is just about toast.

  • Das

    Reading this thread make me weep that we have so many idiots as Yankee fans. Giving Omar Infante four years?! The question is why the hell would the Royals do that? We have these bad small market teams, flush with cash, spending silly money on bad players.

  • stupidmove

    Stupid move letting him go at that price. Seriously, they’re going all out for Tanaka which means they’re blowing past 189 so why not give this guy the extra year he wanted for a very good upgrade over the next couple years?

    Penny wise and pound foolish if you ask me.

    • forensic

      The extra year has nothing to do with going past $189 or not. They already offered more per year than the Royals did. I’m not going to go crazy about not stretching to go four years for Omar Infante.

    • Havok9120

      They are betting 2013, the year he is getting paid for, is not representative of what can be expected over the next few years. Then there’s the whole “2Bs age poorly” thing. Not to mention that if he falls off a cliff he’s basically about as useful as Wells. His versatility seems a lot more theoretical at this point than most people seem willing to admit.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        His 2013 would get him a lot more than $7.5M/year.

        • Havok9120

          2013 gets him 4 years. That and, of course, all the extra money floating around.

  • stuckey

    I sometimes find my fellow Yankees only slightly less unseemly and embarrassing as those parents on HBO’s Trophy Kids.

    • Curt Schilling

      Watching that show now for the first time. Disturbing.

  • Pasta

    I know this guy named Murphy on the Mets …….

  • Larrym Fl

    The Yankees made the proper decision to stick to their offer. Infante is a good second baseman. He would handle second base well and not be a cause for concern. But four years is a bit long. Something will come up that will make us forget about Mr. Infante. In other words he was not a game changer. He was a piece in the puzzle. If Kelly Johnson can play a good defensive second base. He may hit well enough in Yankee stadium to bring us a few wins. I would leave Johnson at second and work on a platoon at third or a trade. I like Prado at third but Jeter might find his a$$ there if Drew is signed to play SS. I must be dreaming.

    Gardner for pitching only IMHO.

  • BrahNick

    Can Stephen Drew play Third Base?

    • forensic

      In all likelihood, he can. The main questions are if he ‘would’ play 3B and whether it really helps the Yankees to get another lefty batter who can’t really hit lefties much at all.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    There’s going to be a soft spot at 2B regardless of whether that got Infante.

    Was he really going to make a difference as to the offseason outlook? There’s going to be a hole there – ACCEPT IT. There is no FA that is going to plug that hole and Kendrick is not likely attainable from Angels. Any pursuit of BP is a misstep that takes away what the focal point of the FO at this point:

    Pitching!

    Nobody will give a shit about “not getting Infante” once the staff starts to take shape. The primary need is finding at least one more starter and filling the pen out.

  • greg

    Maybe Tanaka can play second base when he’s not pitching. Or how about Horace Clarke?

    • Havok9120

      Softball style floater using one of the spare OFs.

  • Al

    Daniel Murphy?

  • Farewell Mo

    To think not too long ago the Yankees infield sported Teixiera, Jeter and Arod (before they got old and shitty) and Cano and now will be some combination of a washed up Teixiera, over the hill Jeter, can’t hit Ryan, 305 OBP Kelly Johnson and maybe Mark Ellis and Mark Reynolds?

    jeez.

  • He went to Jared

    If only we could put Soriano back at 2B. Oh nostalgia…

  • There’s the Door

    I say again, they have signed their last free agent of note. If Alex’ suspension holds, they will be below 189. That is the plan.

  • Dan in Athens

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  • qwerty

    2014 infield:

    3B Nunez
    SS Ryan
    2B Johnson

  • There’s the Door

    Again: Yanks have signed their last notable free agent. The plan is to hope Alex’ suspension is upheld, and if it is, to stay under 189.

  • mustang

    There are a lot of second base options that are in the same boat as the Yankees catching core young and unproven with some upside so maybe look there.
    If not move on to Mark Ellis and Mark Reynolds and call it a day not going to cry over Infante.
    FO has been very impressive this off-season.

  • Dan in Athens

    Hi, my name is Dean Anna. All I do is get on base and play about every position on the field, including a good 2B/SS.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      I don’t even want to know why you’re repeating his name. I fear the answer.

  • Mike

    Talk about an overpay. Glad we didn’t sign that guy. He’ll be 35 at the end of that contract.

  • Mark L.

    At USD 4.8 million next year, and with Sogard, Lowrie, Donaldson, and Punto already on the roster, Alberto Callaspo is looking like a very expensive backup in Oakland.

    I’m always wary of dealing with Beane, but maybe he sees something in our farm system that would make a deal possible.

  • Chris z

    I like the way the Yanks are holding their ground this winter. In years past we’ve seen them overpay by large sums for players and they drove the price of being a Yankee up quite a bit. Almost setting a premium on playing here, would automatically get you above market price.

    I like how they are trying to reset their own market a bit and not pay an extra few mil to everyone. Divide that out over 4-5 FA’s and the savings can be substantial.

    They could stay under 189 by holding firm with these FA’s and not getting pushed around in prices or getting too overwhelmed and overspending.

    • Alkaline

      It is quite interesting to see them draw the line in the sand. So long we heard/suspected other FA just used the Yanks as leverage to drive up that price. What happens now when the Yanks refuse to meet that price?

      I’m thrown off by the 189 now. It seemed that they tossed it out the window, but we can’t be positive of that. It’s difficult to meet now, but would kind of suck giving out the money to Mccannonball and ‘Coby then stay put. If they are going to go all out, don’t half ass it.

      • Fin

        It killed Cano that the Yankees drew the line in the sand at $175. He only ended up getting $240m. It killed Infante too, he only ended up getting $30m over 4 yrs. All that drawing a line in the sand does is cost the Yankees players, which is fine. The fact is players will go to where the most money is, if that’s not the Yankees they will go somewhere else. All this does is shatter fans illusions that all these players wanted to be Yankees at any cost, it just so happened the Yankees payed them the most. When, infact players want to play for whatever team pays them the most.

  • Alex21

    Sign uribe to play 3B and put Johnson at 2B.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Now I’m going to have nightmares tonight.