Jun
07

2014 Draft Open Thread: Day Three

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2014 DraftThe first two days of the draft are complete, but there are still another few hours and 30 rounds left to go. Thankfully, those 30 rounds will be drafted during a rapid fire conference call with no wait between picks. It’s glorious. The entire draft used to be like that. I get that MLB is trying to market the draft and increase interest, but it really isn’t a made-for-TV event. A minute (or worse, five minutes) between picks is an eternity.

Anyway, Day Three of the draft is actually pretty fun. More than Day Two, at least. Day Two is more about manipulating the draft pool and selecting cheap, easy to sign players to save as much money as possible. Day Three is about drafting high upside players to use that extra money on. Sure, there will be a ton of organizational types selected today, that comes with the territory, but expect a run of prep players at some point.

Here are the Day One and Day Two threads, and here are some miscellaneous links heading into Day Three:

  • Here are the best available players according to Baseball America. Just about all of the top ranking high school players have huge bonus demands and are considered unsignable at this point. Guys like Virginia RHP Jacob Bukauskas and Georgia HS LHP Mac Marshall have definitively said they are going to college.
  • In ESPN’s Day Two analysis (subs. req’d), Chris Crawford says RHP Austin DeCarr (third round) has the highest upside among AL East draftees. “[DeCarr's] stock shot up over the past few weeks after touching 96 mph with his fastball, but he was always on scouts’ radars because of his ability to throw strikes with all three pitches, the best of which is a curveball that’s a plus offering right now … has a chance to be a quality starting pitcher, perhaps even a No. 2,” he wrote.
  • Within the same link, Crawford says RHP Jordan Foley (fifth round) will reach MLB the quickest among AL East Day Two draftees. “Assuming the Yankees move Foley to the bullpen, he could move quickly through their system as a reliever who can hit 96 mph on radar guns and will show a plus slider with a good amount of tilt,” wrote Crawford.
  • “It was a tremendous honor to be drafted by the Yankees. It’s the greatest organization in all of professional sports,” said DeCarr to David Carty. “There’s definitely a business side of baseball, you’ve got to understand it to the best of your ability. With the new slotting system, it has a little bit to do with the talent level, but the draft picks themselves have to do more with signability.”
  • In case you missed it the last two days, make sure you check out this FanGraphs post by former Mariners front office staffer Tony Blengino to get an idea of what it’s like inside a team’s war room during the draft.

The draft resumes at 1pm ET and the conference call will be streamed live on MLB.com. Here’s the audio link and here’s the Draft Tracker link. There won’t be a liveblog today (sorry, I just don’t have the time), so do all your draft talking here. Enjoy.

Categories : Draft
  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    11th rounder Borens is a tall drink of water, huh? 6’7 and under 200 lbs?

  • CashmanNinja

    A few rounds in and no comments yet?

    Yankees are going heavy college guys, wow. I would love someone like Hunter Cole right here.

  • CashmanNinja

    Recap 11-14

    Matthew Borens – 6’7″, 195 lb RHP
    Chris Gittens – 6’4″, 250 lb 1B
    Bo Thompson – 5’10″, 255 lb 1B
    Sean Carley – 6’4″, 250 lb RHP

    Interesting. Seems like they’re loading up on “big” guys. Thompson is the intriguing one there. The dude has power (14 HR, 52 RBI, .299 AVG, .472 OBP, .567 SLG%). Sounds like a Peter O’Brien clone.

    • Adam from Bay Ridge

      If only O’Brien drew nearly as many walks. He reminds me more of Greg Bird, IMO.

    • kenthadley

      With the age of many of these guys, it seems like it won’t take long to find out if they are players or not. One will turn 24 this year. Not sure I understand the strategy with this, but from reading the comments apparently many here agree with it.

      • http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/ ALZ

        Some of it at this point if finding diamonds in the rough, part of it is overpaying for college signees, and part of it is just filling out your minor league rosters.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      Borens? More like “boring” TBH.

      15 picks and just one HS player? FAIL

      • John C

        Shut up! You know nothing about any of these players

        • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

          As if you do. I know they drafted a whole lot of future middle relievers.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting

            Most guys drafted are future minor league busts.

          • JohnC

            But I’m not the one crying “FAIL” when I know nothing about a lot of these players

          • nycsportzfan

            First off Lindgren and Holder aren’t just middle relievers, they have ceilings of Closers which is a premier position in baseball. They got starters as well. Montgomery, Foley(possibly), and DeCarr.

      • Cheval Spellcheckfail

        there is a hard ceiling on draft budgets, and this limits the number of high ceiling high school draft picks that can be signed. High ceiling HS players after the second round nearly always go over slot. To pay for these guys you need to sign other 1-10 round players below slot. The fact that the Yankees have no picks before the 2nd round means they have a very small pool to reallocate, meaning they have a very limited opportunity to sign the HS players.

  • NCS

    Thompson is one unlikely-looking baseball player. Built like a monster truck:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5iPvQhVjQ8

    • CashmanNinja

      The dude really reminds me of Prince Fielder…

    • http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/ ALZ

      Benches 400 and squads 650. Throw some plate discipline in there and I can see why they did that pick.

      • Brian S.

        But how much does he deadlift

  • CashmanNinja

    Andrew Chin – 6’1″, 190 lb LHP, had TJ surgery a few years ago and the stats I can find say something like a 5-2 record with a 3.10 ERA in 78.1 IP. Plus 52 K/32 BB.

  • CashmanNinja

    Derek Callahan – 6’4″, 215lb LHP

    Another college guy, but looks like he’s a work in progress. I’m guessing they view him more as a LOOGY since he apparently didn’t have very good stats.

    • Cheval Spellcheckfail

      Nobody ever gets drafted as a potential LOOGY.

  • sabes

    I’m guessing they’re going for older players because they are going to stock up on young international players. This way they stock both high and low minor league teams.

    • ClayBuchholzLovesLaptops

      While also severly limiting the ceiling of the farm system…

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        Not really. The ceiling would come from the IFA’s.
        Any high ceiling guys the Yankees could get from their draft position would likely be very raw and years away anyways.
        They appear to just be taking a balanced approach.

      • http://www.staggeringbeauty.com/ ALZ

        But these college players are more likely to make it.

      • nycsportzfan

        The Ceiling will most likely be met by alot of these college kids though. Alot of the HS kids will never meet there ceiling.

  • The Other Matt

    Another hit for Yankees 7th round pick, University of Texas outfielder Marc Payton. 101 consecutive games of reaching base.

    • Wolfgang’s Fault

      Payton doesn’t have one outstanding tool. He just gets on base and earns the respect of everyone he plays for, with, and against.

  • Charles R.

    There you go. Garrett Cave seems like an interesting pick.

    • Fernando

      He showed some promise and is only 17, so among the youngest guys available. Disappointed they did not take AJ Vanegas or Jordan Brink, since they were going for a lot of college pitchers.

  • Charles R.

    And they’re really loading up on left-handed pitching. 5 out of 17 players so far.

  • CashmanNinja

    Wow, Cave looks like the spitting image of a high ceiling prep kid. He’s going to be a tough sign, but this is why they went so many college kids. He only turned 17, too.

    6’4″, 180 lb RHP

    “Though he was raw on the showcase circuit last summer, Cave showed enough promise to keep scouts interested. Now, the Florida International recruit is turning some of that potential into production and is climbing Draft boards as a result. Cave’s velocity jumped this spring, and his fastball now sits in the low 90s, regularly touching 93 mph. His secondary pitches have also improved, especially his curveball, which now looks more like an average offering. Even with this spring’s improvements, Cave still has work to do. His command is a work in progress, and his secondary pitches need to be more consistent, but he is still projectable and will be 17 years old on Draft day, making him one of the younger players in the class.”

  • CashmanNinja

    Justin Kamplain – 6’0″, 175 lb – LHP

    7 wins, 3 losses, 1 complete game, 90 IP, 69 K, 31 BB, 2.90 ERA, 1.07 WHIP

  • scooter

    All of the players they are considering from the international pool are position players aged 16-17. That’s probably why they are focusing on pitchers. My favorite picks so far are Lindgren, DeCarr, Foley and Cave (tough sign).

    • nycsportzfan

      If they can’t get Cave to sign, it’d be a huge get. My fave picks are Lindgren, DeCarr, and Holder. Montgomery is right there as well. Love Holder though.

      • CashmanNinja

        I love the Montgomery pick. I also loveeee the Toffey pick. But I just don’t see him spurning Vanderbilt.

  • PaulP

    Question, what is a re-draft? Is it a kid that was drafted in a previous draft?

    • CashmanNinja

      Yes, guys who opted to go to college instead of signing straight out of high school.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    So … no Kendrys Morales.

    • CashmanNinja

      Great….that means we get to see Soriano play more. Blah.

    • The Other Matt

      He signed with the Twins, of all teams. I guess that was the “mystery” team that MLB Trade Rumors was alluding to earlier this week, when they mentioned his potential suitors.

      • CashmanNinja

        Looks like they’re giving up on Kubel. But I don’t see why Minny would do that since Mauer seems to need to play DH so often since he can’t stay healthy. Ugh, I wanted Morales so much. I wonder how much $$ they’re going to offer. I guess the allure of letting him play more than twice a week was enough to convince him. I just hope he’s getting paid a lot of $$ because it’s probably the worst place to go in order to rehab his value for another signing. Yankee Stadium would have been the absolute best…

        • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

          Mauer has played 46 games at 1B and only 8 at DH. That’s not a bad ratio.

  • AConcernedFan

    Can they just draft Mariano Jr. already?

  • CashmanNinja

    Joe Harvey – 6’2″, 220 lbs – RHP
    Corey Holmes – 6’6″, 200 lbs – RHP
    Porter Clayton – 6’4″, 215 lbs – LHP
    Jake Kelzer – 6’8″, 230 lbs – RHP

    All college arms. Clayton and Kelzer were relievers. Kelzer’s numbers look solid though.

    1 win, 2 losses, 24 games, 31 IP, 9 BB, 0 HR allowed, 44 K, 2.03 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, 12.77 K/9.

    I must say that Kelzer looks fairly intriguing. He has strikeout stuff, didn’t give up home runs, and has a HUGE frame. I don’t know if he’s an actual power arm, but the numbers look good and he has the frame. The only problem is that it looks like he’s very limited in experience — possible injury the previous year?

  • CashmanNinja

    Will Toffey – 6’2″, 195 lbs – 3B, prep kid

    The Yanks got an exclusive look at him. He represented the Northeast in the “New Balance Area Code Baseball Games” for the Yankees. One scout said he’s “patient at the plate and knows the strikezone.” and added “His future position will likely be third base where he made some good plays at the Area Code Games and has an above average arm.”

    He’s going to be an extremely tough sign since he’s already very committed to Vanderbilt. But if they could get this kid…let’s just say it may be worth going so heavy on the senior college guys. I think he could very well be my favorite pick of this draft if we can get him. They’ll have to go wayyyy over the slot to get him, but damn. This is the kind of kid you do that for, especially after we’ve already saved an insane amount of money as is.

  • JR

    Charlie White (whom I’m told we drafted in the 20th round) is tearing up my Wahoos at them moment. Guy’s a good looking hitter and made the play of the game defensively.

    • CashmanNinja

      He went to the Cubs in the 21st round.

  • CashmanNinja

    Dominic Jose – 6’3″, 195 lbs, CF

    He really hasn’t done much if anything in his college career. He barely hit over .200 this year and offers little power. He looks pretty lanky and needs to add a little more bulk and muscle. But he looks to have the frame where he can easily add some. He also looks to have a very smooth swing. It’s very fluid and if he has someone work hard with him he has a chance to develop. But again…he’s definitely a work in progress, but looks to have an athletic build. The kind of guy who looks like an athlete, but not so much a baseball player. He could be a diamond in the rough if he gets the proper help.

  • CashmanNinja

    Dylan Barrow – 6’3″, 190 lbs – RHP

    Very, very raw. He basically walked up to his coach in high school and said he wanted to try pitching. He started out at 85 and worked his way up to 91. Then he eventually became a 92-94 mph pitcher who could hit 96. He also, for some reason, has an anecdote of how he holds the team record with a 101.5 mph pitch…which he threw in his underwear. Anyway, he seems to have a live arm, but again…very raw. Off-speed stuff is a work in progress, but the fastball seems to be there. Interesting prospect.

    • Mr. Roth

      The other day I heard a rumor that the Yankees were petitioning MLB to allow pitchers to play in their underwear. I couldn’t figure out why they would ever do that, but now it makes perfect sense!!

    • nycsportzfan

      Interesting. I can’t believe he got a pitch to go 101 yet sits in the 92-94 range? If true, thats crazy. I’m keeping a eye on this one.

  • CashmanNinja

    Collin Slaybaugh – 6’2″, 185 lbs – C

    This kid is smart. He was terrific in the classroom (4.0 GPA). He was the PAC-12 Conference Scholar-Athlete of the Year. His 4th academic award. He was involved in programs with young children in school to help them to read. He just seems extremely well-rounded with a good head on his shoulders. He also produced on the field — although the power wasn’t really there.

    I can’t find his 2014 numbers, but in 2013 he hit .317, 32 runs, 16 RBI, and 12 stolen bases. So he was able to hit, but just not for power, and showed great speed for a catcher. He kind of sounds like Cervelli in a way, except…smarter.

    • Rick in Philly

      Stats page was buried a bit.

      Hit .299/.329/.364. Struck out 20 times in a team high 214 AB’s for the Cougars. Had a .982 field percentage with just 3 errors. Threw out 10 of 23 steal attempts this year.

      • CashmanNinja

        Not bad. He seems like a decent overall hitter, but without much power. That can always change though. He could be a solid back up though. He definitely seems smart enough to handle a MLB pitching staff.

  • CashmanNinja

    Griffin “Griff” Gordon – 6’0″, 210 lbs – OF

    Woo…we’ve got ourselves a hitter.

    2014 = 62 games, 54 runs, 6 2B, 5 3B, 7 HR, 50 RBI, 10 SB, 29 BB, 19 K, .378 AVG, .446 OBP, .521 SLG%, .968 OPS

    I know this kid is an outfielder, but his stance, swing, and build just reminds me a hell of a lot of Chase Utley for some reason.

  • CashmanNinja

    Ha…Padres drafted Johnny Manziel.

  • TheRealGreg

    Lee Casas RHP USC

    Lee Casas is a 2010 RHP/1B with a 6’6”, 206 lb. frame from Ladera Ranch, CA who attends Capistrano Valley. Tall athletic build, body projects well, long arm action, occasional cut action to fastball, makes hitters put the ball in play, solid 11 to 5 curveball, around the plate with all pitches, consistent solid contact at the plate, has extension, shows bat speed, turns on the ball well, good around the bag at first base, solid actions, strong student.

    • CashmanNinja

      That was from 2010 though when he was a prep kid. He’s now 23 years old.

    • TheRealGreg

      This was his high school scouting report

  • CashmanNinja

    Lee Casas – 6’7″, 255 lbs – RHP

    Really can’t find much on it.

  • emac2

    Are there any draft prospect lists that can be sorted by height?

    I think I may have discovered the Yankees secret player development sauce.

    Unless all that growth hormone they put in cows these days somehow survives the BBQ.

    Or women really do prefer big…

  • sabes

    Mariano Rivera, Round 29!

    • nycsportzfan

      Crazy.lol

  • CashmanNinja

    Yanks draft Mariano Rivera :p

    • nycsportzfan

      Next pick is Jorge.lol

  • CashmanNinja

    Apparently Mo wanted his son to finish college, but Jr. says it’s something he may have to go against his dad with and just finish up with online classes. His overall #’s weren’t that great, but apparently he has a very high baseball IQ and shows flashes of potential. He was drafted as a starter, but could always move to the pen if that doesn’t work. He’s got a low 90′s fastball that he was able to throw later in games. He’s very raw, but I think it was a great gesture by the Yankees to draft him, but not go too early on him either. They drafted him on merit and not just name. The late 20′s is about where you’d expect someone like him to go. Hopefully he’ll sign and we’ll get a chance to see what he can do. There’s no denying that the kid loves baseball, but I also respect that he wants to be his own person and not just “Mo’s son”.

    • ARAM

      I just read that the Yankees are paying for Bo Thompson to finish his degree I don’t see why they wouldn’t let Lil Mo do the same.

      • CashmanNinja

        Not unheard of. Or they may just pay for the remainder of his semesters so he can go back in the future at no cost. Sort of like a bonus.

      • Wolfgang’s Fault

        Is that separate money from the $$ allocated for a 12th round pick? Is that just for tuition and credits, or does that include room & board? Is that the norm for H.S. & sub-senior college draftees signing contracts?

  • CashmanNinja

    Jorge Perez – 6’2″, 205 lbs – RHP

    Hard to really find stuff on him right now.

  • nycsportzfan

    My sleeper outta the group so far is Ty McFarland 2B J.Madison. Kid can hit and I love those wirey body types. Believe hes a converted pitcher and I don’t know if hes gonna stick at 2B or not, but the bat alone and the fact hes a coaches kid are very intriguing.

    • CashmanNinja

      I would say Toffey, but he isn’t much of a sleeper since he’s a high ceiling high schooler. He’d probably have been picked much earlier if not for his commitment. So I’ll say my sleeper so far is…Griff Gordon. I can’t shake the Utley comparison.

      • nycsportzfan

        Nice. McFarland reminds me of Stephen Drew type player at the plate, who can maybe hit for a bit better avg. The thing I love is McFardlands always got a good BB/K ratio. Usually walking more then striking out, plus hits for the high avg. Not to mention, 9hrs in a college season by a middle infielder isn’t bad. Being a coaches son(his coach) has to only of helped as well. Very interested to see this kids bat.

        • nycsportzfan

          Last thing i’ll say about McFarland is hes got a strong arm, hence why he started out as a pitcher at JMU. He did well at a predraft workout in Tampa with the Yanks. He knocked around some minor leaguers and showed well with the bat and displayed alittle speed.

        • nycsportzfan

          McFarland also can play 3B. Versatile kid.

    • nycsportzfan

      And hes got some power potential by the way. Swings tailor made for Yank Stadium

  • CashmanNinja

    Devyn Bolasky – 5’11″, 185 lbs – CF

    54 games, 30 runs, 6 2B, 1 3B, 2 HR, 26 RBI, 14 SB (7 CS), 13 BB, 18 K, .336 AVG, .370 OBP, .398 SLG%, .768 OPS

    Ok…so this guy offers very little power, but looks to have decent speed and uses it to get on base and advance.

  • CashmanNinja

    Jordan Ramsey – 6’4″, 200 lbs – RHP

    2 wins, 4 losses, 49.2 IP, 6 HR allowed, 14 BB, 42 K, 5.80 ERA, 1.43 WHIP

    He let up a *lot* of hits this year and obviously just didn’t do well. But his previous year was pretty good (6 wins, 6 losses, 2 complete games, 104 IP,4 HR allowed, 30 BB, 83 K, 2.34 ERA, 1.16 WHIP).

  • EndlessJose

    Was Boo Vazquez taken?He did a try out for the Yankees and looked like a steal in the later rounds.

    • CashmanNinja

      He’s still available. I was hoping they’d draft him yesterday and can’t believe he’s still there.

  • CashmanNinja

    David Graybill – 6’4″, 225 lbs – RHP

    The stats I see are for batting and they aren’t very good at all. But he’s listed as a pitcher so maybe they’re drafting him to develop him or he has other #’s I’m not aware of? Good size to him though.

  • CashmanNinja

    Matt Wotherspoon – 6’1″, 175 lbs – RHP

    2014 = 14 games, 5 wins, 6 losses, 79 IP, 55 K, 4.44 ERA

  • CashmanNinja

    Christopher Hudgins – 6’1″, 190 lbs – C

    35 games, 23 runs, 8 2B, 2 SB, 12 HR, 40 RBI, .405 AVG

    7 stolen bases allowed, 6 thrown out.

    Looks like a good hitting prep guy. Probably not going to sign though, just my guess.

    • Charles R.

      12 HR in 35 games? Kid’s got some pop.

  • CashmanNinja

    William Gaddis – 6’1″, 175 lbs – RHP

  • CashmanNinja

    Ryan Lindemuth – 6’0″, 200 lbs – 2B

    40 games, 50 runs, 11 2B, 2 3B, 6 HR, 34 RBI, 3 SB, 20 BB, 17 K, .297 AVG, .445 OBP, .524 SLG%, .969 OPS.

    He had an insane year his sophomore season. Overall he seems like he’s a decent offensive guy.

  • CashmanNinja

    Andre Del Bosque – 6’0″, 225 lbs – RHP

    A reliever named “Pitcher of the Year honors in the Association of Independent Institutions Conference”.

    2014 = 29 games, 2 wins, 5 losses, 11 saves, 60.2 IP, 18 BB, 73 K, 1.78 ERA

    Looks like he could be a fast tracked reliever.

  • CashmanNinja

    Cameron Warren – 6’3″, 210 lbs – 1B

    Looks like he had solid numbers (both pitching and hitting), but dealt with a thumb injury this past season.

  • CashmanNinja

    I just want the Yankees to draft Boo Vazquez with their last pick. Is that too much to ask for? He’s a college guy, should play LF, has a terrific frame, and simply looks like he’s just a late bloomer. I like his swing. It seems compact, but strong. He may not be hitting for power yet, but it just looks like it’ll come in time.

  • CashmanNinja

    Nope.

    Madison Stokes – 6’3″, 190 lbs – SS

    Not much info on him, but I believe he’s committed to USC.