Game 94: End of the First Half

2014 Futures Game Thread
DotF: Severino throws scoreless inning in 2014 Futures Game
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One more game. One more game until the Yankees can rest and regroup over the All-Star break after being in what felt like survival mode for the last few weeks. Players are getting hurt, the bullpen has been taxed, the offense is moseying along … this has not been the easiest first half for the Yankees. Not at all.

Chase Whitley is making his return to the rotation tonight thanks to Masahiro Tanaka‘s injury, and hopefully his short stint in the bullpen will help him get over whatever was troubling him his last three starts. He was pretty brutal. Joe Girardi is in position to be aggressive with his key relievers with the four-day rest coming up, so Dellin Betances and Adam Warren could both be asked to throw two innings. Two innings for David Robertson might not be off the table. A four-out save seems very likely, if necessary. Here is the Orioles lineup and here is the Yankees lineup:

  1. CF Brett Gardner
  2. SS Derek Jeter
  3. DH Jacoby Ellsbury
  4. 1B Mark Teixeira
  5. C Brian McCann
  6. 2B Brian Roberts
  7. RF Ichiro Suzuki
  8. LF Kelly Johnson
  9. 3B Yangervis Solarte
    RHP Chase Whitley

It’s very hot, very humid, and kinda cloudy in Baltimore. There is also rain in the forecast later tonight, which might interfere with the game in some way. We’ll have to see. The game is scheduled to begin at 8pm ET and you can watch on YES. Enjoy.

Roster Move: The Yankees have called up right-hander Bryan Mitchell as an extra just in case long man. He was scratched from his scheduled start for Double-A Trenton yesterday and is good for 100 pitches tonight if need be. Zoilo Almonte was sent down in a corresponding move. I assume Mitchell will be sent down and Carlos Beltran will be activated off the 7-day concussion disabled list after the break.

Rotation Update: David Phelps, Brandon McCarthy, and Hiroki Kuroda will start the first three games after the All-Star break, Joe Girardi announced. I would bet on Shane Greene getting the ball in the fourth game.

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2014 Futures Game Thread
DotF: Severino throws scoreless inning in 2014 Futures Game
  • Frankie Cerveddardi

    A W tonight would get them 3 back of the division and they’ll have BGDP lined up to start the 2nd half. Cashman has to start doing more than just picking up back end starters. They need an ace and at least two power bats.

  • vicki

    (you mean espn, of course.)

    • ropeadope

      I trust Mr. Axisa, and I’m sticking with YES. Michael Kay is speaking with Rob Reiner, which seems to be a strange choice for a pre-game interview, but I’m sure they’ll join the game as soon as they return from commercials. ESPN is bad luck for our winning percentage, so thank goodness for YES.

  • Yanks

    I just want to see Mitchell pitch and see if his nasty stuff can find the strike zone.

    Anyone have a gif of Severino’s nasty slider to get Gallo out?

  • nycsportzfan

    Lets get er done boys! Whitley starting just as I suggested after his little 2inn relief app a few days ago. Also, see what I mean about surprises. So far Shane Greene has been super and we all thought he’d pretty much suck. BGDP has been brilliant of late, and Whitley has thrown some dandies as well. Were in this thing.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      I don’t always like what you have to say, but that was as soft, warm, and comforting as a bubble bath in Megan Fox.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        a bubble bath IN Megan Fox???

      • nycsportzfan

        No one likes everything someone has to say, so were good my friend. Yup, I said it.lol

        I’ll take a bubble bath in or with Megan Fox any day of the wk.

  • nycsportzfan

    198hits till 3000 for Ichiro. Hes getting closer.

    • ropeadope

      Will the Yankees extend a qualifying offer to Ichiro at conclusion of season?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        Of course not.

      • nycsportzfan

        I think he’ll be resigned because he fills that 4th OF spot so brilliantly. Yes, hes had to play a bit more because of injuries lately, but as a 4th OF, hes perfect. He plays Defense great, has very good speed, and can hit to all fields as well as beat out IF hits. I sure hope he returns for at least another yr.

        And if injuries happen, you know you got a exp vet coming off the bench.

        • ropeadope

          Well stated, and I completely agree. Hope Ichiro does return. Agree as well with NP&H that it won’t be via qualifying offer.

  • No More

    Johnson and Ichiro must be dealt

    I still think you acquire Cliff Lee and roll the dice

    Allow for a rotation of Solarte, Wheeler, and Pirela

  • nycsportzfan

    Melo signed for alittle less then the max. Thats pretty cool.

    • No More

      Knicks did the right thing and kept their most talented player.

      Wish the Yanks had done the same with Cano.

      Never thought I would say the Knicks did something better than the Yanks (first time since the early ’90s).

      • nycsportzfan

        Yanks got Refsnyder and Katoh coming along at 2B. They did the right thing.

        • No More

          Yeah b/c Katoh and his .230 BA and 33 BB to 100 K ratio is so great

          No, the Yanks could have had Cano at 2b and Refsnyder at either 3b or RF going in the future. The Yanks did not do it right, letting go a pure LH foundation player.

          • TC

            There’s 9 more years left on Robbie’s contract, and he turns 32 in the offseason. Theres plenty of time for that signing to go monumentally wrong.

          • nycsportzfan

            You failed to mention Katoh was brilliant last yr and is coming along this yr, now. Hes been hitting and getting on base like a machine the last 20games or so. Sorry, you don’t give up on a player for struggling 2months in his 2nd yr outta HS. Hes still a legit 2B prospect all day long.

            Again, Yanks made the right move all day long. Cano signed a 10yr 300mil dollar contract for petes sake.

            • Advice

              Ignore him.

              • nycsportzfan

                lol… Yeah, nothing more frustrating then when you mention a super young prospect whos had a big yr all ready, and the response you get is his season to date numbers.lol Like, a guys not allowed to struggle for 2months early on in his professional career.

                Katohs got a 405OBP over his last 10games, and the Avg continues to go up and up. Shoot, he was hitting 198BA like a month ago. Raised his Avg about 30plus points in that time.

  • nycsportzfan

    I got a feeling we will rough this kid up.

    • nycsportzfan

      And theres 1!lol

  • RetroRob

    I’m sure Whitley and company can make that one run work.

  • vicki

    power-hitting corner outfielder.

  • RetroRob

    John Kruk, who make me long for Joe Morgan.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Gardy!!!

    • nycsportzfan

      What a yr. Reminds me of a Shane Victorino yr in his prime.

  • CG

    Hell yeah gardner!

  • RetroRob

    Throw was off line and they still got him.

    Markakis has thrown out a lot of Yankees over the years. He’s really not a good OFer, but he does have a good arm.

  • vicki

    tootblantastic.

  • nycsportzfan

    Jacobys having a solid yr Kruk. Maybe not great but certainly alot better the Choo.

    • No More

      He is not worth his contract, duplicative of Gardner, and Gardner is having a better year at half the price. Granderson’s having a better year than Ellsbury and does not cost that much in salary and length of contract.

      • nycsportzfan

        So? Jacobys signed for alot longer. Hes not exactly having a AS season, but if this is the worst we see from Ells for awhile, hes certainly gonna be worth the contract. Hes having a very solid all around season.

        • Chris

          If you don’t think Cano is going to be worth the contract, the Ells certainly will not be. Ellsbury is having a solid year, but not for 22 million. To correct your previous error, Cano signed a 10 year $240 million contract.

  • nycsportzfan

    I didn’t realize Tex had 17jacks. Thought he was at 15 or so. Nice!

  • nycsportzfan

    Wow, got Tex with a offline throw even.lol

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Knew he was getting thrown out as soon as he rounded first.

  • ropeadope

    Let’s blame Robbie Thompson for that.

    • RetroRob

      There was a study a few years back that pretty much suggested that the runner should always be sent. I didn’t believe it then, and I don’t believe it now, but I’ve never forgotten it. Maybe the Yankees have a copy of it.

      • vicki

        advanced metrics like aggressive baserunning v. conservative baserunning, sure. trying to take home with two outs, for example. some smart analysts have even suggested teams would be more productive without a third base coach. but i think ‘the runner should always be sent’ is like ‘teams should always go for it on 4th down.’ meaning, it should happen more often, but not always.

        • RetroRob

          The study was focused on runners at second (not first), and with two outs the conclusion was always send the runner. As said, while I found it interesting, I didn’t buy the “always” part at all, but agreed that aggressive base running in those situations will net more runs.

          • TC

            When it comes to these type of mathematical constructs and the theories they support, you kind of have to buy in to them totally, or ignore them completely. Once you start trying to pick and choose when they are right and when they are wrong, you lose the advantage that they supposedly offer, and are basically just saying you want the conventional wisdom.

            • RetroRob

              Then in this case it should be ignored. The study never gained traction for a reason.

              • TC

                That doesn’t mean it was wrong.(not saying it was right either) Nobody will challenge convention with something that radical at the highest level, that doesn’t mean the findings were wrong. I know there is a high school team that has put into practice the thought of going for it on 4th every time(I think they onside every kickoff too), and it has worked out extraordinarily well.
                Again, I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but it would be interesting to see a team try it out. It definitely looks ugly when an Ellsbury gets thrown out by a mile, but how many times has this offense failed to get that runner in anyway?

                • RetroRob

                  I wasn’t particularly impressed by it, but I thought it was an interesting idea, but I the more digging I did behind the number the less I agreed with it.

                  Yet, it was a few years ago now. Many teams have advanced analytics departments, including the Yankees.

      • ropeadope

        Certainly sounds a bit extreme. Have to be some instances where it’s wiser to stay put. Not upset with Tex trying to get into scoring position with two outs, but with Markakis’ arm, it was probably a low percentage gamble.

        • RetroRob

          Markakis’s arm, short right field at Camden, and Tex’s foot speed did not add up to a good equation. Soon as I saw him round first, I assumed he’d be out! Yet the throw was off line. Just a bit more and he probably would have beaten it.

  • Frankie Cerveddardi

    This team runs into more outs than any club in the history of baseball. Teixera knows very well that Markakis has a gun and Kelleher did his best Rob Thomson impression.

  • RetroRob

    Those were the kind of plays the Yankees weren’t making when anyone by Tex was at first earlier.

  • vicki

    whitley doesn’t have any trouble remembering steve pearce is steve pearce.

  • RetroRob

    Clean single.

    • forensic

      Solid line drive.

      /boxscore’d

  • nycsportzfan

    B-Mac trying to put together a normal season by his standards lately. If he can stay in the 240-260BA range with 18-20HR 70-80RBI, it’ll be hard to complain as thats what he is.

    • No More

      Could have had Russell Martin for those stats and reduced cost.

      • nycsportzfan

        But with McCann you at least got the potential to have a monster offensive yr.. I don’t think you can get a monster offensive yr outta Martin at this point.

        • Not an ace

          .400+ OBP

          • RetroRob

            Funny, people hated Martin when he was here (not me). Yet the .400+ OBP is a fluke. His .327, .311 and .324 the prior three seasons are more representative of who he is. Still more valuable than most Yankee fans believe he was.

            • JGYank

              Liked having him. Shocked they let him walk. Would have helped a lot to have him the last two years.

  • nycsportzfan

    Come on Whitley, lets get outta this.

    Heres a question. When on there games, who is more fun to watch pitch, Shane Greene or Chase Whitley?

    • TC

      The more important question is what can Shane Greene do when he is not on his game? We’ve already seen Whitley in that scenario and it is very ugly. Not to overrate velocity, but it is good to have a little something on that fast ball when you either can’t get your off speed stuff over, or aren’t fooling anybody with it.

  • nycsportzfan

    Fuck Whitley. How do you go 3-0 on Caleb Joseph? Gotta get this guy!

    • nycsportzfan

      Good work getting outta the Jam Whitley.

  • vicki

    crash & burn davis.

    • forensic

      You mean that one year isn’t going to suddenly be his career norm now???

      • ropeadope

        You make an excellent point, but I’m truly shocked at the falloff. Imagine if he were duplicating last season with the addition of Cruz to their lineup!

  • Not an ace

    Also lol at ESPN saying we don’t have a lot of prospects. We have a farm system easily near the top 10.

    • CMed21

      No we don’t, we still have a middle of the pack farm system at best.

      • JGYank

        It’s rebounding though.

      • Not an ace

        We have 5 top 100 prospects and more fringe types with upside then just about anybody.

        • forensic

          Five Top 100 prospects?

          • Not an ace

            Severino, Judge, Sanchez, Refsnyder, Jagielo.

            • CMed21

              Severino is the only for sure Top 100 prospects with Sanchez being maybe in the 60-90 range and Judge being a borderline one. Refsnyder and Jegielo aren’t Top 100, maybe Top 200.

              • RetroRob

                Jags won’t make top 100. Wouldn’t surprise me if Refsnyder comes in based on the jump he made this year, so I’d say there is the possibility of four making it.

              • Not an ace

                If Refsnyder isn’t top 100 all those lists lose credibility. WRC+ near 170 is way too big to ignore. Jagielo will mash when he’s back and probably end the year near 140 wRC+ at a premium position so he should make it. Hell, Clarkin and DePaula might with huge second halves.

        • TC

          You’re reading a little too much Newsday perhaps.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting

            heh

            • TC

              Tongue in cheek comment. They put out a Yankee prospect list with Jaron Long and I think Taylor Dugas in the top 10.

              • Need Pitching & Hitting

                I know, that was meant as a laugh, not a question.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          5?

  • Not an ace

    To continue the Cano discussion above…If you sign him and don’t sign Beltran and McCann we are probably in first place. If the Yankees had upped their 7-175 to 8-200 I think he might have stayed but that’s conjecture. As far as Refsnyder and Katoh go, you move them around the field knowing Cano would be a dh halfway through that deal.

    • CMed21

      Cano is already declining and it’s barely the first year of the contact. Yes his AVG is still high but he’s lost power and he’s lost range at 2nd. Cano years 1-4 is not worth years 5-10.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I know the AL East has been god awful, and the entire league is mediocre but if you were to replace Beltran, McCann, and Roberts with Ichiro, Cervelli/Stewart/Murphy, and Cano and we still lost 4/5ths of the rotation to go along with the absolute zero that was Alfonso Soriano I can’t buy the argument that the team would be in first. Even if they were everybody would be saying we need to improve at RF/3B/C and SP instead of RF/3B/2B and SP.

      • nycsportzfan

        I beg to differ. There are 3 teams in the AL EAST that have plenty of talent. I don’t think the AL EAST sucks at all. Just alot of parity.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Parody makes mediocrity good. They may have plenty of talent in comparison to the rest of the league, but a Yankee team with this talent level would be lucky to be within 4 games of .500 in 2009’s MLB.

          • Old Man Time

            I thought parody was used in humor?

            • Dalek Jeter

              I swear that was intentional…somehow…don’t look at me I’m an idiot.

              • Old Man Time

                Haha

        • JGYank

          On paper it’s good. But performance wise, the rays and RS suck the Yanks haven’t been good and the jays and orioles have been far from dominant.

        • forensic

          When most of the teams are right around .500, parity=mediocrity (at best).

      • Not an ace

        Uhhh Cano has been 3.5 war and McCann and Beltran combined have been worth about 0. Those 3 or 4 wins means we in first place. Not that WAR is linear but it’s a good approximation.

        • TC

          Nobody in their right mind would deny this team, this year, would have been better off with Cano. It’s the thought having to pay him and take a roster spot for possibly years when he sucks that kept him off this roster. You gotta keep the long view sometimes.

          • Not an ace

            And what is Beltran going to do to the team the next two years? Ditto McCann the next 4. They’re garbage.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting

              McCann still has value, especially defensively, and is young enough where he “should” be able to regain at least some of his lost offense.

              Beltran’s definitely not looking good though, short-term or long-term.

          • E-6

            Betances a starter and now Cano should have been resigned for 10 years. Blind leading the blind

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          It would depend alot on who the replacements are.
          Cano’s 3.5 bWAR would be replacing Roberts, giving the Yankees a net gain of 2 wins at 2B.
          They’d need another 2 wins upgrade from the McCann/Beltran replacements. Even with McCann’s struggles, I don’t think you’d find much at C (considering they likely would have gone with some combination of Stewart/Cervelli/Murphy/Romine instead) even with McCann’s struggles, especially considering the framing aspect that isn’t reflected in WAR, but which McCann is supposed to be outstanding at.
          That would leave trying to find 2 wins from the Beltran replacement to close the total 4 game gap. Given Beltran’s -0.7 bWAR, that’s certainly not impossible, but it would depend on the choice. Not signing Beltran might have just meant more playing time for Soriano and Ichiro.

          • RetroRob

            I think we can all agree the Yankees would be better with Cano on the team and much closer to first. Yet the Yankees were not going to sign a 10 year contract for what it meant in 2014. At least I hope not. : -)

            • Need Pitching & Hitting

              Agreed. Though making moves prioritizing the future over the present is somewhat of a new new tact for the Yankees.

    • RetroRob

      That’s why the Mariners came in with the $245MM offer. The Yankees weren’t going to pay $250MM to eclipse the offer, and $200MM doesn’t get it done. Cano was going for the money. The same people who will complain the Yankees should have signed Cano at any cost are the same ones who will complain when he sucks five years in.

      Katoh and Refsnyder weren’t even part of the Yankees decision process, nor should they be.

  • nycsportzfan

    Refsnyder has a 405OBP and 950OPS on the yr.. What a baller!

  • nycsportzfan

    Bullshit, that was inside!

  • JGYank

    I wonder how long the leash will be for Whitley.

  • Frankie Cerveddardi

    I’d have that pen on stand by as Chase goes through the order a 2nd time. He got lucky to get out of the last jam.

  • Frankie Cerveddardi

    And that’s the ballgame. I said to have that pen ready and Girardi didn’t even have anyone warming.

  • Dalek Jeter

    I blame forensic and vicki for that.

    • vicki

      i blame myself. i felt icky when i typed it in the first place. the sports jinx is real.

    • forensic

      I blame Chase Whitley.

      And Joe Girardi.

  • Dalek Jeter

    So…why exactly isn’t Gardner in LF and Ellsbury in CF the day before the break? (I truly believe Gardner has a chance to rob Davis and catches that double)

  • 28 this year

    Greene was a 15th round pick in 2009 and Whitley was the 15th round pick in 2010? That’s crazy to hit on two 15th round picks in a row. Even if they do nothing from here on out, getting two starters to even crack the majors is crazy

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Certified long man, Chase Whitley.

    They’re tattooing him now. Can’t go but through a lineup once before they figure him out.

    • forensic

      For what it’s worth, his numbers are better the 2nd and even better the third times through the order.

      • forensic

        Which is to say that they crush him the 2nd time through, but usually totally demolish him the 1st time through.

        • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

          Ha. I see what you did, now.

      • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

        Skewed by the starts against those NL teams the first couple times out. I think we all see what’s happening here.

    • vicki

      actually? while we all remember him this way, splits are confusing. as a starter: first plate appearance, .918 ops; second appearance, .840; third appearance, .579; fourth appearance (just 2pa), .000.

      however, as a reliever: .286 ops.

  • RetroRob

    I’d have a very short leash here.

    • RetroRob

      Too late.

  • Chris

    So much for that drop off.

  • No More

    Game. 5 back.

  • forensic

    Good thing Ellsbury has to absurdly DH in a night game after a day game before 4 straight days off.

    I can’t help but think Gardner would’ve at least gotten back to the wall and had a chance to jump for that one, but alas…

    • Dalek Jeter

      I literally just said the same thing, but for some reason it posted much further up. He might rob Davis’ homer and definitely catches that double IMO.

  • Frankie Cerveddardi

    Chase Whitley is a 3 inning pitcher. Why doesn’t Girardi understand this by now? 2nd time around teams crush him. And Girardi’s still sitting there like a clueless idiot.

  • nycsportzfan

    No biggie. Only down 2 early in the game.. Ichiro needs to get on base to start the 5th.

  • nycsportzfan

    Damn, Kevin Longs kid threw a gem for Trenton tonight. Hes cruising through the minor league ranks.

  • RetroRob

    I wonder why Huff even looked at second there. Two outs, go to first.

    • nycsportzfan

      I know right.lol

      • RetroRob

        I wonder if he forgot how many outs there were for a second.

        • forensic

          He was just so shocked to actually have a chance to get a batter out that he forgot what he’s supposed to do.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Kruk sweats when he exerts himself to lift a fork.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Soooo…who gets to start the 5th game after the AS break?
    A)Whitley
    B)Huff
    C)Francis
    D)Trade acquisition
    E)Waiver claim
    F)Sergio Mitre
    G)Chad Gaudin
    H)Cash sneaks into the stadium and lets the sprinklers run all night, forcing a postponement

    • forensic

      I vote H.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I. Trade Melky and IPK for Darvish.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        I think that technically fits into D), but I’ll take it.

    • RetroRob

      I’m going with A and Whitley as my guess. Francis is not stretched out at all. Next option is D. Has a sniper taken out Mitre yet to prevent F?

      • forensic

        If I had to go with realistic choices, I’d have to go for some sort of combination of D/E. I don’t really want to see much of Whitley anymore, but he would likely be my top internal choice among what’s left.

        • RetroRob

          If it’s Whitley, they should treat him for what he is. A reliever. Limit him to three innings and then bring in the pen. Easier to do that tonight since four days off are coming.

          Bottom line is this is not a workable situation right now. They need another starter, so a trade is still likely.

          • forensic

            Yeah, they can do it tonight since they already voluntarily compromised their roster for it, but they really can’t (hopefully) do that after the break with 13 straight games.

    • Tom

      I…. For Ichiro!

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        damn, should have thought of that one.

      • nycsportzfan

        I wonder if they’d ever give Joel De La Cruz a shot? Or Zach Nuding?

    • nycsportzfan

      I’d say Whitley probably. I’d try and get Jorge De La Rosa from the Rocks during the AS break though. McCarthy and DeLaRosa would be solid fillers for now.

      But i’d say Whitley.

  • nycsportzfan

    Fuck. I try and have this offenses back, and they just dont care. Come on man, can’t we go to the break with a monster win, please!

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Ichiro adds to that horrific spray chart Mike showed the other day. That thing was uh-glee.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    It appears Solarte left his hot bat in AAA.

    • forensic

      And yet he stays around instead of even letting Zoilo play a little to see if he can help out in the OF.

      • BKamm

        For whatever reason Girardi has never liked Zoilo. Just never played him. Solarte is a career minor leaguer so maybe in Girardi’s world he’s a veteran.

  • Frankie Cerveddardi

    And they couldn’t even put together a rally to stop it from becoming an official game. I hope they call this one and save us the embarrassment of not getting another hit.

  • RetroRob

    Oh, great. We have a 50 min to an hour delay coming. I suppose that will get the starting pitcher out of there.

  • http://www.penuel-law.com/ Cuso

    Man. Those guys getting to the mound were good!!

  • nycsportzfan

    Good, i’m glad its delayed. Anything can happen after a delay. Heres to hoping Gausman don’t come back in.

  • forensic

    It’s a baseball rain delay on the last day before the ASB with a full day of games already done.

    So, of course, lets spend the rain delay talking about the NBA…

    • Lukasz

      We can talk bout Der Mannschaft

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Did you just see that Amir El-Hassan, the “NBA Front Office Insider” on Sportscenter? I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone with less presence for television.

      I’m actually surprised, as ESPN does a pretty good job at getting all these former jocks to look passable on TV. This guy was awful.

      • forensic

        Nope, didn’t see him, catching up on other stuff now. Couldn’t care less about the NBA (and, of course, you know who) and World Cup at this point so they successfully drove me away (and I’m sure I’m not the only one).

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          I think I’ve paid about fifty times more attention to the NBA than to MLB this week. Just a crazy week, and more to come, I’m sure.

  • Bill

    Ball game over. Rest of the season over. Yankees lose. Theeeeeeee Yankees lose. See you next March with a new group of stopgaps. Hockey can’t come soon enough.

  • Farewell Mo

    the Yanks really need to get Whitley the hell out of the rotation. Just doesn’t seem to have the stuff to be more than a marginal starter.

    • forensic

      I’m not even sure he can be a marginal starter.

      Hopefully the next 8 days is enough time to find something even just a little bit better to be a placeholder there for a little while.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      I really hate being put in the position to defend a guy whose ceiling I think is “David Phelps,” but here I am again.

      How can we really write this guy off so fully after these few starts? I really don’t get it.

      • Farewell Mo

        No one’s writing him off. He may turn out to be a valuable reliever some day but I just don’t see him have the kind of stuff to be a starter, certainly not now. He has to be just perfect or he gets hammered. He’s pretty much a poor man’s Phelps

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          You may not be writing him off, but he gets insulted on here pretty often following people thinking he could do little wrong after his first few starts.

          I think he’s a swingman to back-end guy, but I was impressed enough by some of those early starts to think that he can approach his ceiling rather than his floor. No matter what, I do think he’s a good hand moving forward.

      • hornblower

        JS, Whitley or any other starter is not the problem. Most posters are too young to understand that pitchers even with good stuff have to learn how it’s done. The Yanks still can get by with this staff but they have to improve the offense. Johnson and Ichiro give them nothing. I would be very surprised if Cashman brings back the same awful group after the break. Or am I being too hopeful.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          Whether the offense is doing well or not has nothing to do with Chase Whitley’s development or what we see him as moving forward.

      • Farewell Mo

        How often do you see a right handed starter who barely breaks 90 and is below average in K/9 and GB% end up as anything more than a marginal starter over the long run?

      • Mack Jones

        Still not watching the games, I see. It’s on ESPN tonight if you want to actually watch. Might be good when you’re commenting on something to actually know what you’re talking about.

  • forensic

    Remember when they said the rain delay could be only about 45 minutes or so?

    Yeah, sure… An hour and a half later…

  • vicki

    https://twitter.com/Ricky_CDR/status/488528360684142594/photo/1

    “Yankees fans looks like rain continues for 3+ Hours at Camden Yards”

    • ropeadope

      I’m stayin’ with it as long as it takes.

      • vicki

        twitter says umpires just walked into yanks’ clubhouse. i’m thinking it’s bad news.

        • ropeadope

          Uh-oh!

          Doh!

  • McLovin

    At least that rain delay allowed me to watch that show The Strain.

  • ropeadope

    Yankees extra innings will start really late.

  • bbb51

    I guess they reeeaaaally want to get this one in?

  • RetroRob

    Have any updates been issued on start time?

    • forensic

      Boland said they just called it.

  • forensic

    Umps call it.

    And the Orioles pitchers revolt as they have four shutout innings taken away…

  • Daniel

    Did anyone see the rumor about the angels trying to acquire both Huston Street and Ian Kennedy? That would be nuts. The Yankees aren’t going to be able to compete with most of these other teams at all pretty soon.

  • Mark

    Yanks lose in 5 innings, what a way to head into the break.