Saturday Links: A-Rod, YES, NYCFC, Nicaragua, Mustaches

DotF: Slade Heathcott has another big game, Jorge Mateo steals another base
Game 18: Make It Five
Bern baby Bern. (Presswire)
Bern baby Bern. (Presswire)

The Yankees and Mets resume the Subway Series later this afternoon at Yankee Stadium. It’s a 4pm ET start. Blah. Until then, here are some stray links I had lying around to hold you over.

How the Yankees will fight A-Rod‘s home run bonuses

Back in Spring Training we heard the Yankees were “confident” they could get out of paying Alex Rodriguez his home run milestone bonuses. Now that the season is underway and A-Rod is mashing taters, the breaking point is rapidly approaching. He is two shy of tying Willie Mays on the all-time home run list with 660 dingers, so it could happen any game now and trigger the first $6M bonus.

Ken Davidoff and Joel Sherman have the breakdown of exactly how the Yankees plan to get out of the bonuses, which are part of a separate marketing contract, not Rodriguez’s player contract. Here’s the nuts and bolts of their report:

According to two sources familiar with the situation, when Rodriguez goes deep with number 660, the Yankees will have a precise period of time — two weeks, as per one of the sources — to declare this as a marketable milestone. If they were to do this, then Rodriguez would sign over the rights to his image and associated branding for the price of $6 million.

Once the Yankees formalize this decision, then A-Rod has a set period of time — 30 days, according to one source — to file a grievance. Though Rodriguez has shied away from publicly discussing this, every indication is that he will challenge the Yankees’ interpretation of the side deal.

The Yankees will have to prove they utilized good faith in declining to declare A-Rod’s 660th homer a milestone. They’ve gone so far as to not include A-Rod in the “Upcoming Milestones” section of their daily press notes.

I dunno, seems like a lot of work to save $6M. They really can’t slap together some generic AROD660 shirts, call them official, and at least break even? Besides, you know they were hoping he didn’t hit the two homers in Detroit just so they could get the attendance boost on the homestand.

YES Network ratings down 21% so far in 2015

According to Richard Sandomir, YES Network ratings have dropped a staggering 21% so far this season, down to 267,000 viewers per game. Woof. The report is from Thursday, so it doesn’t include the last few games of this little hit streak. YES averaged over 400,000 viewers per game when it first launched and 355,000 as recently as 2012. Viewership fell to 244,000 per game in 2013 and rebounded to 288,000 per game last year thanks to Derek Jeter‘s retirement. There are still 145 games left to play, so there’s plenty of time for ratings to increase, but still. That’s a big drop. I imagine it would have been even worse if a whole bunch of people weren’t tuning in to hate-watch A-Rod.

No stadium deal for NYCFC on the horizon

New York City Football Club, the expansion MLS franchise that is doing the pro sports team version of crashing on the couch at Yankee Stadium this year, is not any closer to securing their own stadium. “We’re recognizing it’s probably going to take longer than we thought,” said MLS commissioner Don Garber to the Associated Press yesterday.

”There hasn’t been too much buzz about playing in Yankee Stadium or a baseball stadium yet,” said Garber, referring to problems with the field. ”That will happen soon, after somebody trips on a divot perhaps and perhaps misses a ground ball, but we hope that doesn’t happen.” Uh, yeah. Me too.

When we first learned NYCFC would call Yankee Stadium home, it was reported they would play their home games in the Bronx for three years (!). They still need to find a stadium location, build the place, and move in. So yeah, NYCFC isn’t going anywhere for a while. They’re 1-4-3 on the season and 1-2-1 at Yankee Stadium, in case you’re wondering. They’re playing like an expansion team.

MLB announces new amateur prospect league in Nicaragua

Earlier this month MLB announced a new amateur prospect league will be launched in Nicaragua this summer to provide scouts with “neutral in-game scouting opportunities of unsigned prospects.” This is baseball’s second amateur prospect league — they launched one in the Dominican Republic back in 2012. The league will run until July 4th, and there will be another “season” starting in September.

The press release says 46 players from Nicaragua have signed with MLB teams since 2010 and right now there are 31 Nicaraguan players under contract in MLB or the minors. Everth Cabrera and Erasmo Ramirez are the only players from Nicaragua in the big leagues at the moment. By far the best player to ever come out of the country is Dennis Martinez. (Vicente Padilla and Marvin Bernard are distant runners-up.) I’m glad MLB is branching out and giving young kids a chance to show their stuff. Hopefully they open more prospect leagues in other Latin American countries soon.

The Yankees are growing mustaches, for some reason

And finally, you may have noticed during last night’s game that several Yankees are growing — or attempting to grow, anyway — mustaches. Apparently it is part of some kind of team unity thing. Marly Rivera says Mark Teixeira, Chase Headley, Esmil Rogers, Dellin Betances, Garrett Jones, and Stephen Drew are among those growing mustaches, and during the game last night it looked like Jacoby Ellsbury is trying to get in on the act as well. This is either going to be very good or very bad. Maybe a little of both.

DotF: Slade Heathcott has another big game, Jorge Mateo steals another base
Game 18: Make It Five
  • Bobbi

    I think there are still a lot of ARod fans out there. I think if the team is winning, and ARod hitting HRs is helping those wins (which they have so far), that ARod merchandise will sell. They will get back their $6 million. But are they doing this “on principle?” But I do think that many people will dismiss the accomplishment as tainted. PEDs or no PEDs, though, that’s a lot of home runs. Another part of me, though, thinks that ARod made this situation for himself, and he’s made a lot of money and maybe $6 million is the price you pay for suing your team. And here’s a question – can MLB if they so choose, market the milestone? And if they do, and if it proves “marketable” does that force the Yankees to pay the $6 million?

    As for the mustaches, I have to weigh in. My initial reaction is: NOOOO!!! Why????? And I do want to know why. If it’s a bonding thing – you know what – whatever, right? Yankees greats of the past have worn mustaches. It’s really not that big a deal. And I do think that this team is trying to forge an identity and set themselves apart maybe. However, I am sure that there will be some really ugly mustaches. As long as there are no beards….

    • Adam

      Honestly, ARod has an easy out in this to continue rebuilding his image. Just meet with the FO and say “Let’s not pay lawyers over this. Just donate the 6 million to charity.”

      • Bobbi

        I wonder if the CBA allows this. Maybe the Yankees would have to pay the $6 million TO ARod, then ARod is free to do what he wants with the money.

        • Adam

          Either way, it’s monopoly money to him, right? Once you pass 400 million in career earnings, I can’t imagine how the 6 million matters.

          • Bobbi

            Oh, money in baseball (sports) = respect, right? It’s not about the dollars per se. But even if the $6 million doesn’t matter, there is a contract out there that says he is entitled to it for meeting specific performance goals. There’s that “principle of the thing” thing again.

            It’s complicated. Because certain facts were unknown to the Yankees at the time that contract was drawn up and entered into. And at some point, maybe a stand has to be taken, as petty as may seem, that there has to be some financial protection for teams in some of these PED cases? If you sign a player fully aware that he’s had PED issues in his past, that’s one thing. But ARod was signed to that second contract as the player who was going to cleanly break all the HR records. I don’t think there was ANYONE out there at that time that doubted ARod was clean.

            • Adam

              I’d love to see the particulars of the “marketing clause” in his contract. It seems from cursory knowledge that it’s not a “money for performance” incentive, which is likely what gives NYY the advantage in the legal battle.

              My greater point is that if he goes to NYY or the press or whatever, and says “I’ll donate 100% of it to charity, or you can. I don’t really care.” he’d be putting NYY in a position where they’d look SO bad by fighting the bonus that they’d have to make a positive PR move.

              Although, the MLBPA might be handcuffing ARod in what they allow him to do.

              • Bobbi

                That’s what I meant – not the CBA, but the Player’s Union.

                I see what you’re saying – that it was a separate agreement, basically, to market the accomplishments, rather than part of his regular contract which would pay bonuses based on performance goals. And that’s why it’s open for legal interpretation at all. Is that it?

                • Adam

                  From my understanding, yes that’s exactly the issue.

            • Adjusts Batting Gloves

              “I don’t think there was ANYONE out there at that time that doubted ARod was clean.” I think it was more a case of no one out there doubting that MLB was tacitly endorsing steroid use and hoping to see records fall. See McGwire, Sosa, Bonds…I think Levine and co. misread the mixed signals MLB was sending about PEDS. The Yankees should honor the contract. Relatedly, MLB itself still has not issued a ruling on records set by players from the steroid era.

      • dave_8

        I agree. But I think the Yankees/A-Rod should donate a lesser amount than the full 6m. A mutual decision without a lot of extra attention. Also, I’m sure it will be worth more than 6m to A-Rod going forward in rebuilding his image and staying in the game beyond his playing days. He’s got a favorable commissioner now as well. We’ll see if A-Rod makes the right call rather than blowing things up again.

    • Yanks27

      Do you know how many t-shirts you have to sell to clear $6 million?

  • Adam

    The mustache thing only works if they’re trying to turn Hal into George.

    Or, they don’t want to get into shit celebrating by “sharpening invisible mustaches”, so they’re growing the real thing. #cavaliers #lies

  • Sir Didi Nakamura

    NO NOT THE MUSTACHES

  • blake

    The Yankees should have bat signal with the Yankee logo ready to shoot into the sky tonight should they beat Harvey

  • blake

    The YES viewership being down that much really is telling about the Jeter factor…..because this club is a heck of a lot more fun to watch and interesting than the 2014 team IMO

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      Agreed!

    • LazerTown

      jeter was just awful to watch last year.

      • blake

        People watched though

  • blake

    I say yes to the staches! magnum PI style

    • 86w183

      Rollie Fingers style! That would take Gardner six years

    • MTU

      Works for me. I’ve had one for over 40 yrs. :)

  • Alex Reddardriguez

    Yankees should just give Alex the $6 million when he hits 660. They’re only going to come off looking bad. A-Rod has done everything right this season and is back in the good graces of the NY fan bases. Fans will side with Alex saying that the Yankees signed the contract and they should live up to it regardless of how they feel about him.

    Ratings should tick up as we get into the summer. This club looks like it will be a contender and the offense is back.

    I love the mustaches. Growing facial hair is an historic past time that brings groups of men together. The Sox team from a couple years ago did it with beards and they won the WS. That’s enough evidence for me to jump on board and maybe start growing a mustache myself.

  • Sir Didi Nakamura
    • Yankee Trader

      Liked the outtakes. McCann was sporting a mustache.
      Mustaches to raise awareness in ARod’s soon to erase May’s home run record! :)

    • Yankee Trader

      Liked the outtakes. McCann was sporting a mustache.
      Mustaches to raise awareness in ARod’s soon to erase May’s home run record! :)

  • Mandy Stankiewicz

    Fully support the staches! The Arod bonus things has been called this numerous times, and it is very petty of the team. You made your bed.

  • Havok9120

    The rally ‘stache thing clearly has potential for hilarity. Sign me up.

    Gardner looks to be very much in on the game, too.

  • SweetSpot

    First for the important stuff. I hate the mustaches. There are certain things that sets the Yankees apart and contribute to their timeless image and popularity in addition to their success between the lines. Their hallowed history, pinstripes, no names on the uniforms, the Stadium, professionalism and a clean cut look. Although mustaches are allowed, it’s hardly an expression of individuality if so many are doing it and comes off to me looking like a poor man’s copycat of Red Sox scruff and slovenly grossness. I hope this is a phase that disappears quickly.

    • Bobbi

      Donny Baseball, Thurmon Munson and Goose Gossage all sported pretty huge mustaches in their day. I personally like the total clean-shaven look, but I don’t find the mustaches sacrilegious or anything. I’d rather they bond over mustaches than beanball wars.

      • SweetSpot

        I wouldn’t recommend the Yankees ban them. Just not my taste, it’s subjective.

    • DeutschlandNY

      Mustaches are okay. Things go wrong when beards are grown and players look like cavemen. Napoli for example.

      • NH Yankee fan

        Imagine if James Harden played baseball lol

      • NH Yankee fan

        Imagine if James Harden played baseball lol

  • Looser Trader FotD™

    It’s especially galling and preposterous when the Yanks *do* highlight his upcoming hit and RBI tallies as upcoming milestones in those same press notes. Come on Yanks. You’re better than that, no?

  • SweetSpot

    “I imagine it would have been even worse if a whole bunch of people weren’t tuning in to hate-watch A-Rod.”

    There’s another possible way to look at this. It might show how incredibly popular Derek Jeter was and how unpopular Alex Rodriguez is.

    • BearNJ

      I don’t agree its all about Jeter. Look at the Yankees attendence pre and post A-Rod. Alex is not hated as all seem to claim. Anyone who saw his opening day reception knows that is true. I do agree what hurts the Yankees are the lack of stars and two medicore years. Winning cures all.

      • SweetSpot

        I think his “opening day reception” is a reflection of a relatively small group of die-hard Yankee fans. Just as this core group overvalues Yankee prospects, they also inflate A-Rod’s acceptance and popularity. Neither is realistic or truthful necessarily IMO. In a NY Daily News poll of 5,000 Yankee fans at the end of 2014, 71% wanted A-Rod to go away, while 29% were ready to welcome him back.

        • LazerTown

          a winning team has much bigger impact than arod hatred.

          • SweetSpot

            Absolutely true.

        • DeutschlandNY

          Any troll can vote multiple times in a internet poll.

          • LazerTown

            That doesn’t even count the Mets fans.

          • LazerTown

            That doesn’t even count the Mets fans.

          • SweetSpot

            Do you have information that substantiates your speculative theory? There’s no indication the poll wasn’t valid. You really think A-Rod is beloved by a majority?

            • Dalek Jeter

              It’s not exactly “trolls voting” but a few years ago when Eric Sogard nearly won the “face of baseball” thing MLBN was doing by a concentrated effort by an online community and A’s fans to make it happen.

          • SweetSpot

            Do you have information that substantiates your speculative theory? There’s no indication the poll wasn’t valid. You really think A-Rod is beloved by a majority?

        • yankeefeminista

          What does a isolated 2014 poll of only 5000 fans have to do with Alex’s 2015 reception and popularity? Have you actually gone to any games? Were you there for Opening Day? Alex’s name being added to roll call was enthusiastically received by most of the crowd and so were his at bats. He even got standing O’s, so perhaps you should review the video tape because your take on Opening Day is highly inaccurate.

          • SweetSpot

            Your post makes no sense. I did not say there were not fans at opening day cheering for A-Rod. I am saying those at the game who were doing so “were a small group” and not necessarily representative of the universe of Yankee fans. Just those that went to the game. 5,000 is a very representative sample for polling purposes as polls go. Maybe it’s a bad poll. If you want to believe that A-Rod is popular with the majority of Yankee fans that’s your right. I do not believe that to be the case. Rooting for him to perform well while playing for the Yankees is one thing, I do that. Not liking him and wishing he was no longer a Yankee is entirely different.

            • ChuckIt

              And the Yankees Universe spans infinitely.

            • ChuckIt

              And the Yankees Universe spans infinitely.

            • yankeefeminista

              How do you know the size of the group if you weren’t there? I am just questioning your so-called facts. You should be more precise if you are going to reference something and base conclusions on it.

          • SweetSpot

            Your post makes no sense. I did not say there were not fans at opening day cheering for A-Rod. I am saying those at the game who were doing so “were a small group” and not necessarily representative of the universe of Yankee fans. Just those that went to the game. 5,000 is a very representative sample for polling purposes as polls go. Maybe it’s a bad poll. If you want to believe that A-Rod is popular with the majority of Yankee fans that’s your right. I do not believe that to be the case. Rooting for him to perform well while playing for the Yankees is one thing, I do that. Not liking him and wishing he was no longer a Yankee is entirely different.

  • Basil

    Mustaches are a concession the Yankees shouldn’t make. However, if they do, players ought not to sport them if the mustache makes them look like lounge lizards, e.g., like Harvey Korman’s character in the old Carol Burnett shows. Things aren’t looking good for Gardner at the moment.

    • Havok9120

      A “concession?” The policy is “no facial hair above the lip,” not “no facial hair.”

      At least that’s my understanding.

      • Austinmac

        That’s my understanding too. Clearly, mustaches will be critical to a good season. Sampsonesque power comes from hair grown upon the upper lip.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Yankees have always been allowed mustaches, don’t you remember Reggies? Or Mattingly’s? Or much more recently Giambi’s and Sal Fasano’?

    • Dalek Jeter

      Yankees have always been allowed mustaches, don’t you remember Reggies? Or Mattingly’s? Or much more recently Giambi’s and Sal Fasano’?

      • Mandy Stankiewicz

        “No hair below the lip” has been the rule I believe

      • Mandy Stankiewicz

        “No hair below the lip” has been the rule I believe

    • ruralbob

      With all the truly ugly junior-high-school beards being sported by many current baseball players, I have no problem with ’70s mustaches. Memories of Munson, Gossage, Guidry, White, Mattingly, Reggie, et al. would not be bad at all. (Disclaimer: I have worn a beard since the early 1970s save for 1977-79 when my employer would not let me have a beard. Those two years I had a mustache. I am not anti-facial hair. I am just anti-ugly/unkempt facial hair.)

  • OldYanksFan

    Love him or hate him, ARod is still the biggest draw the Yanks have this year. It’s crazy for them to play all this shit out, for a ‘mere’ $6m. The Yanks should just play nice with ARod and milk the many upcoming milestone ARod may make.

  • Bo Knows

    It’s going to be strange when the entire roster looks like a Sitcom Dad, Ron Swanson or a 70’s Pornstar (but let’s face it, all those words are just redundant haha)

  • mattpat11

    I wonder if the Yankees are behaving like this in an effort to turn public sentiment in A-Rod’s favor and make him more comfortable.

    I’m kidding.

    I think.

  • Barzini

    The A Rod thing is quite simply the worst deal ever negotiated.

    • Y’s Guy

      Any golfer can tell you that divots dont heal in 3 days no matter how much you pay the grounds crew.

      • Barzini

        Great. And for a soccer team, no less.

      • Barzini

        Great. And for a soccer team, no less.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Eh, at the time of the contract I don’t think it was even public knowledge that he was on the Mitchell Report for a failed test.

      • Barzini

        I just don’t understand the point..they couldn’t sell “AROD660” shirts unless they had this agreement? Otherwise, the fact they’re even giving him the $ doesn’t make sense.

        • JimK

          I agree, I would think the regular contract gives the Y’s all rights to any promotional achievement by any of their players.

          • Barzini

            exactly.

          • Barzini

            exactly.

        • JimK

          I agree, I would think the regular contract gives the Y’s all rights to any promotional achievement by any of their players.

        • JimK

          I suspect Dan Rather found the Y’s side contract with Alex.

        • JimK

          I suspect Dan Rather found the Y’s side contract with Alex.

      • Barzini

        I just don’t understand the point..they couldn’t sell “AROD660” shirts unless they had this agreement? Otherwise, the fact they’re even giving him the $ doesn’t make sense.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Eh, at the time of the contract I don’t think it was even public knowledge that he was on the Mitchell Report for a failed test.

  • JimK

    Depending on how Alex’s player contract is written, it’s possible that if the Y’s exercise their rights under the marketing clause, HR 661 may actually cost them 12 million dollars.

    • LazerTown

      ??

    • Bret The Hitman

      You must think their attorneys are stupid.

      • JimK

        no just their front office

        • Bret The Hitman

          They handled everything up to the suspension just fine. Didn’t AROD file suit against the Yankees?

          • Dalek Jeter

            Yeah, did get a little sue crazy last year.

          • JimK

            I was referring to the original 10 year extension, when it was supposedly acknowledged they Y’s were the only bidders for Alex’s services.

            • Bret The Hitman

              My point is the Yankees obviously have sound legal advisement (at least they did handling him prior to the suspension) and if the attorneys went ahead and green-lighted pursuit of the marketing bonuses contract then there is nothing in the language of the player contract that risks them losing money, and especially not 6 million. They have combed through both contracts.

              • JimK

                Brett, I am sure you are correct, and as Y’s Guy pointed out above, it really does not matter what I believe the lawyers will sort it out in the end.

              • JimK

                Brett, I am sure you are correct, and as Y’s Guy pointed out above, it really does not matter what I believe the lawyers will sort it out in the end.

                • ChuckIt

                  And make a pretty penny for themselves doing it.

                • ChuckIt

                  And make a pretty penny for themselves doing it.

                • Bret The Hitman

                  Damn I was hoping you’d bet me like you did Nick in SF

                  • JimK

                    refresh my memory; what bet was that.

                    • Bret The Hitman

                      Suspension under 100 games. You said would likely be 50. Nick in SF took the over.

                    • Bret The Hitman

                      Suspension under 100 games. You said would likely be 50. Nick in SF took the over.

                    • JimK

                      Now I remember; obviously I lost, which wouldn’t be the 1st time nor is it likely to be the last

                    • Bret The Hitman

                      It’s OK I lost a bet to Nick in SF as well. We all have.

                    • Austinmac

                      I’m in the club.

                • Bret The Hitman

                  Damn I was hoping you’d bet me like you did Nick in SF

            • Bret The Hitman

              My point is the Yankees obviously have sound legal advisement (at least they did handling him prior to the suspension) and if the attorneys went ahead and green-lighted pursuit of the marketing bonuses contract then there is nothing in the language of the player contract that risks them losing money, and especially not 6 million. They have combed through both contracts.

          • JimK

            I was referring to the original 10 year extension, when it was supposedly acknowledged they Y’s were the only bidders for Alex’s services.

        • Bret The Hitman

          They handled everything up to the suspension just fine. Didn’t AROD file suit against the Yankees?

      • Y’s Guy

        Everybody has legal rights including the Yankees. If they want to challenge the bonuses, they have every right to do so. Just like Arod has every right to try to collect them even thought they are obviously tainted. An arbitrator or judge will sort it out. Personally I couldn’t care which way it goes.

        • JimK

          I really do not care either; just keeping on topic before I get called out by the “thread police.” Although I do find the bonus situation amusing, especially given the fact that Alex could not agree to take less money to play for the RS, because it violated the terms of his contract, and the player’s association said that was not allowed.

        • JimK

          I really do not care either; just keeping on topic before I get called out by the “thread police.” Although I do find the bonus situation amusing, especially given the fact that Alex could not agree to take less money to play for the RS, because it violated the terms of his contract, and the player’s association said that was not allowed.

      • Y’s Guy

        Everybody has legal rights including the Yankees. If they want to challenge the bonuses, they have every right to do so. Just like Arod has every right to try to collect them even thought they are obviously tainted. An arbitrator or judge will sort it out. Personally I couldn’t care which way it goes.

  • Dalek Jeter

    In order:

    Congrats, Yankees, you’ve somehow made A-Rod look like the not petty one.

    Jeez, that sucks, I guess more people are moving away from regular cable and stream even baseball by some means or another.

    Totally okay with somebody missing a single grounder on a funny hop, but if somebody turns their knee by tripping in a divot I will be very upset.

    Sign all the Nicaraguans or Cashman failed I guess.

    and finally Hooray Mustaches!

    • Y’s Guy

      How short is your memory?

      • Dalek Jeter

        Depends on what your talking about? For example, I remember making a fool of myself at the age of 13 (12 years ago) by asking a girl out at carnival in front of all my friends and being rejected. However, I do not remember what I ate for dinner last night.

        • Y’s Guy

          People and institutions just don’t forget being sued and slandered on the radio or in court by someone who was in the wrong from day 1. It’s all easy to ‘forgive and forget’ for us as the news cycle moves on, but I can’t blame the Yankees F.O. and their team physician for not liking Arod and maybe even being a little vindictive.

          • Dalek Jeter

            True, but this is a chance for them to look like the “bigger person” publicly, but instead, at least my perception is they’re stooping down to A-Rod of last year’s level…and that’s an ugly look for anybody.

            • Y’s Guy

              I always agree with that and I hope it happens. But that’s up to the Yankees and it’s not really for us to tell them they have to be the ‘bigger man’.
              I will add that while Arod can’t change what happened, he has played it perfectly this season, deflecting distraction and being a great teammate. But that’s still only a couple months of an 8 year relationship at this point.

            • Y’s Guy

              I always agree with that and I hope it happens. But that’s up to the Yankees and it’s not really for us to tell them they have to be the ‘bigger man’.
              I will add that while Arod can’t change what happened, he has played it perfectly this season, deflecting distraction and being a great teammate. But that’s still only a couple months of an 8 year relationship at this point.

              • YankeeDJW

                I agree. Arod has done and said all the right things on and off the field this year. It almost makes him likable. Too little, too late though.

            • Austinmac

              Hal as the bigger person? This I gotta see. He feels bigger as costs decline.

              • ChuckIt

                Not as big as his father. George had him by at least 50 lbs.

                • Y’s Guy

                  George never took the “Bigger Person” route.

                  • ChuckIt

                    George made sure he was the BIGGEST person.

                • Y’s Guy

                  George never took the “Bigger Person” route.

            • Austinmac

              Hal as the bigger person? This I gotta see. He feels bigger as costs decline.

          • Dalek Jeter

            True, but this is a chance for them to look like the “bigger person” publicly, but instead, at least my perception is they’re stooping down to A-Rod of last year’s level…and that’s an ugly look for anybody.

        • Y’s Guy

          People and institutions just don’t forget being sued and slandered on the radio or in court by someone who was in the wrong from day 1. It’s all easy to ‘forgive and forget’ for us as the news cycle moves on, but I can’t blame the Yankees F.O. and their team physician for not liking Arod and maybe even being a little vindictive.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Depends on what your talking about? For example, I remember making a fool of myself at the age of 13 (12 years ago) by asking a girl out at carnival in front of all my friends and being rejected. However, I do not remember what I ate for dinner last night.

    • Y’s Guy

      How short is your memory?

  • Dalek Jeter

    In order:

    Congrats, Yankees, you’ve somehow made A-Rod look like the not petty one.

    Jeez, that sucks, I guess more people are moving away from regular cable and stream even baseball by some means or another.

    Totally okay with somebody missing a single grounder on a funny hop, but if somebody turns their knee by tripping in a divot I will be very upset.

    Sign all the Nicaraguans or Cashman failed I guess.

    and finally Hooray Mustaches!

  • W.B. Mason Williams

    100% on the mustache bandwagon.

  • W.B. Mason Williams

    100% on the mustache bandwagon.

  • Austinmac

    I don’t care one way or the other about the bonuses since Hal isn’t spending the savings in all likelihood anyway.

    The Yes ratings reflect lack of confidence and also, probably, lack of star power.

  • Austinmac

    I don’t care one way or the other about the bonuses since Hal isn’t spending the savings in all likelihood anyway.

    The Yes ratings reflect lack of confidence and also, probably, lack of star power.

    • JimK

      Probably the only time their ratings improve is when Tanaka pitches.

      • Austinmac

        Probably true, but I suspect that has declined too as the newness wears off.

      • Austinmac

        Probably true, but I suspect that has declined too as the newness wears off.

        • JimK

          If Tanaka continues to pitch the same as his last two starts I think the buzz will return.

        • JimK

          If Tanaka continues to pitch the same as his last two starts I think the buzz will return.

    • JimK

      Probably the only time their ratings improve is when Tanaka pitches.

  • swizmo

    Love the mustache thing. I just hope they don’t give up on them early. For the majority of men, your ‘stache is going to make you look like a total creep for a good amount of time, but if you keep with it long enough, it super-saiyans overnight and you start looking like a total boss.

  • swizmo

    Love the mustache thing. I just hope they don’t give up on them early. For the majority of men, your ‘stache is going to make you look like a total creep for a good amount of time, but if you keep with it long enough, it super-saiyans overnight and you start looking like a total boss.

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      “Total boss”
      This!

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      “Total boss”
      This!

    • Dalek Jeter

      That’s why in the regular, not employed by the Yankee world, what you do is grow everything out until the stache is all thick and bushy then shave the beard.

    • Dalek Jeter

      That’s why in the regular, not employed by the Yankee world, what you do is grow everything out until the stache is all thick and bushy then shave the beard.

  • Austinmac

    I never really understood a bonus for passing Mays. Why no bonus for passing Killebrew or Robinson?

    • Yankee Trader

      Or Maybe just Mantle and Ruth.

      • Austinmac

        Who has ever gotten a bonus for passing someone? Answer is no one.

        • ChuckIt

          Passing TO someone, yeah.Quarterbacks do it all the time.

        • ChuckIt

          Passing TO someone, yeah.Quarterbacks do it all the time.

        • JimK

          According to Baseball Reference Alex’s contract includes 30 million dollars in bonus money for HR’s from 660 to 763.

          http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rodrial01.shtml#contracts

        • JimK

          According to Baseball Reference Alex’s contract includes 30 million dollars in bonus money for HR’s from 660 to 763.

          http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rodrial01.shtml#contracts

        • Yankee Trader

          How about MLB Team Bonuses, passed on to players?
          Windfall Classic
          Major League Baseball still has the most exclusive playoff format of the four majors. Only eight of 30 teams advance to the post-season. Unlike the NFL, MLB doesn’t pay each player a fixed amount. Rather, teams collect bonuses contingent on gate receipts, receiving 60% of the handle.

          In a stunning display of foresight, the commissioner’s office only counts the receipts from the first four games of each best-of-7 series (and the first three games of the best-of-5 Division Series.) The rationale is that under such a scheme, teams would have no incentive to artificially stretch a playoff series out.

          The world champions receive 35% of gate receipts, the World Series runners-up get 24%, the championship series losers split 25% and the division series losers receive 3% per team.

          Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0112/sports-with-winning-bonuses.aspx#ixzz3YKt8MoiC

        • Yankee Trader

          How about MLB Team Bonuses, passed on to players?
          Windfall Classic
          Major League Baseball still has the most exclusive playoff format of the four majors. Only eight of 30 teams advance to the post-season. Unlike the NFL, MLB doesn’t pay each player a fixed amount. Rather, teams collect bonuses contingent on gate receipts, receiving 60% of the handle.

          In a stunning display of foresight, the commissioner’s office only counts the receipts from the first four games of each best-of-7 series (and the first three games of the best-of-5 Division Series.) The rationale is that under such a scheme, teams would have no incentive to artificially stretch a playoff series out.

          The world champions receive 35% of gate receipts, the World Series runners-up get 24%, the championship series losers split 25% and the division series losers receive 3% per team.

          Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0112/sports-with-winning-bonuses.aspx#ixzz3YKt8MoiC

      • Austinmac

        Who has ever gotten a bonus for passing someone? Answer is no one.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I’m guessing because 660 is a pretty round number, is number 4 all time, and many consider Mays the best all around player of all time.

      • Austinmac

        Yes, Mays is the best player I ever saw. I’m just not sure it was ever particularly marketable. Seven hundred maybe. Ruth, maybe. Levin outsmarting himself, I believe.

        • Dalek Jeter

          After thinking about it, I’m with Barzini a bit further down…what was even the point of this marketing deal to begin with? You’d think it’s written in a regular player contract that any milestones he reaches while with the team are property of the team to market…

        • Dalek Jeter

          After thinking about it, I’m with Barzini a bit further down…what was even the point of this marketing deal to begin with? You’d think it’s written in a regular player contract that any milestones he reaches while with the team are property of the team to market…

        • JimK

          Aaron was my favorite player; Mantle was great but I really did not watch BB much when he in his prime.

        • JimK

          Aaron was my favorite player; Mantle was great but I really did not watch BB much when he in his prime.

          • ChuckIt

            I saw Mantle & Mays at the tail end of their careers, and as a young kid, their legendary careers in their prime really didn’t register with me. Munson & Murcer were my first big guys.

            • Austinmac

              I started watching in 1960 so I got the second half of Mantle’s career. Mays was, unhappily, better during those years, but Mickey could do some amazing things on the field. And he did them as a Yankee.

              • JimK

                I started watching about the same time, but I was an 8 year old casual fan. I began going to games regularly in the mid to late 60’s.

                • Austinmac

                  We’re the same age, but I got hooked early. After all Maris and I both wore no. 9, played right field and had the same birthday. Except for ability, we were virtually the same person.

                  • JimK

                    You were better, I am guessing.

                  • Sir Didi Nakamura

                    A-Rod and I have the same birthday. Well same day of the month but the months are 5 months apart, but still.

              • ChuckIt

                I saw Mantle in ’68, & Mays until the real early 70s, & both were mere shells of their former glory.

            • Sir Didi Nakamura

              I started watching Jeter & A-Rod in the middle of their primes. Beat that!

              • Austinmac

                I started watching as they developed and then saw their primes. Winner?

                • Sir Didi Nakamura

                  I’m not ready to give up yet. I started watching as they blew 2004 away. Ugh fuck it, I lose every time :(

                  • Austinmac

                    But, as one who saw teams on which Horace Clarke was the best player, I may have to concede.

              • ChuckIt

                easy. I saw the Yankees return to glory, in the seventies (76,77,78,) LIVE every Sat. & Sun. & holiday home games. World series & play offs included. Weekend season ticket plan holder.

          • ChuckIt

            I saw Mantle & Mays at the tail end of their careers, and as a young kid, their legendary careers in their prime really didn’t register with me. Munson & Murcer were my first big guys.

      • Austinmac

        Yes, Mays is the best player I ever saw. I’m just not sure it was ever particularly marketable. Seven hundred maybe. Ruth, maybe. Levin outsmarting himself, I believe.

      • W.B. Mason Williams

        I will remain firmly entrenched in the Mantle camp until I die.

        • Austinmac

          You and me both. He was and shall always be my idol

        • Austinmac

          You and me both. He was and shall always be my idol

      • W.B. Mason Williams

        I will remain firmly entrenched in the Mantle camp until I die.

    • Dalek Jeter

      I’m guessing because 660 is a pretty round number, is number 4 all time, and many consider Mays the best all around player of all time.

  • ChuckIt

    Thank you,Mike.Nice to hear someone else state the obvious : that a major reason the Yankees signed A-Rod to that ridiculous contract was the revenue it would draw from attendance,marketing, etc, when he began to reach these milestones. Heck, they milked the Derek Jeter farewell tour (along with every other MLB team they visited) for all it was worth.I know the Yankees are supposed to be all about winning, (they are ) but they also are a business, & as such are just as concerned with making $$. I guarantee they do sell souvenir memorabilia of some type for them.There’s no way they’re going to let the the parking lot hawkers make all the $$ from their unlicensed merchandise. I don’t understand how some of these RAB commenters can be so defensive when I point out this fact. Sure, winning does add revenue, but merchant marketing also brings in $$. A big name player approaching a historic milestone is worth big $$. Face it people- consumers will even buy a souvenir Tee commemorating some big event online or at Modells today, and claim they witnessed it live, 20 years down the line.

    • Barzini

      “major reason the Yankees signed A-Rod to that ridiculous contract was the revenue it would draw from attendance,marketing, etc, when he began to reach these milestones”

      This can’t possibly be your point.

      • ChuckIt

        Not THE major reason, but a BIG factor.

      • ChuckIt

        Not THE major reason, but a BIG factor.

    • Barzini

      “major reason the Yankees signed A-Rod to that ridiculous contract was the revenue it would draw from attendance,marketing, etc, when he began to reach these milestones”

      This can’t possibly be your point.

  • ChuckIt

    Thank you,Mike.Nice to hear someone else state the obvious : that a major reason the Yankees signed A-Rod to that ridiculous contract was the revenue it would draw from attendance,marketing, etc, when he began to reach these milestones. Heck, they milked the Derek Jeter farewell tour (along with every other MLB team they visited) for all it was worth.I know the Yankees are supposed to be all about winning, (they are ) but they also are a business, & as such are just as concerned with making $$. I guarantee they do sell souvenir memorabilia of some type for them.There’s no way they’re going to let the the parking lot hawkers make all the $$ from their unlicensed merchandise. I don’t understand how some of these RAB commenters can be so defensive when I point out this fact. Sure, winning does add revenue, but merchant marketing also brings in $$. A big name player approaching a historic milestone is worth big $$. Face it people- consumers will even buy a souvenir Tee commemorating some big event online or at Modells today, and claim they witnessed it live, 20 years down the line.

  • LazerTown

    Why can’t we get in on that proposed deal for Hamilton?

    • Austinmac

      Fifteen million reasons.

      • LazerTown

        Look at all the money they threw at Wells and Soriano, but they can’t spend $5MM a year for a still productive player?

      • LazerTown

        Look at all the money they threw at Wells and Soriano, but they can’t spend $5MM a year for a still productive player?

        • Austinmac

          They certainly could, but money is held on to tightly in many circumstances, most of which make no sense to me.

        • Literally Figurative

          A still productive player who could relapse at any moment. Excellent roster building strategy

          • blake

            If you arent paying him much it’s worth a gamble …..it would have I be an amount though that wouldn’t stop you from releasing him if he’s no longer worth the 40 man spot

        • NYCORNERSTONE

          I think Angels are taking Choo for Hamilton

    • Austinmac

      Fifteen million reasons.

    • Yankee Trader

      Trade Beltran for Hamilton. This Ranger deal might raise a few red flags.

      From MLBTR’s:

      Rangers Nearing Deal To Acquire Josh Hamilton

      By Jeff Todd [April 24, 2015 at 7:48pm CDT]

      7:15pm: The talks are still “complex” and “volatile” and remain incomplete, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (Twitter links). If the deal is completed, the Rangers will take on less than $15MM and will not send any players to their division rivals.

      Multiple reports indicate that the lack of state income tax in Texas is playing a role, with Bob Nightengale of USA Today tweeting that Hamilton will cede some pay to make the deal work. Hamilton’s gains through tax avoidance would, presumably, even things out (to some extent, at least) on his end.

      If the proposed transaction is indeed one in which the Rangers would assume some of the contract without sending anything in return, and in which Hamilton would give up some guaranteed money, it is not hard to see the complexities. Both the league and union would surely want to take a close look at a deal of that nature.

      • LazerTown

        Never known the MLBPA to allow a player to give up money like that.

      • Dalek Jeter

        So…instead of having 1 more season of a broken down RF making 15 mil, you want two more seasons of a broken down RF making 50 mil? Not to mention the fact that there is no way Hamilton is mentally or emotionally ready to play baseball right now, and may never be again?

        • blake

          Well if the yanks coukd save money on the deal somehow is def do it….Hamilton has a better chance to be good again than beltran because his problems are that he’s 39 years old

          • Dalek Jeter

            All things being equal, sure Hamilton may have a better chance of being good again, but you have to factor in years of drug abuse and the toll that takes on the body. He may be 33, but there is now way Hamilton has the body of a normal 33 year old (let alone a 33 year old athlete) at this point.

            • blake

              I’m just saying if the Angeks would make the money even id do it…..I mean to me that would be preferable to the Rangers deal where they are getting nothing back. Of course Hamilton probablu wants to go to Texas

            • NYCORNERSTONE

              You’d be surprised what the human body can come back from

      • NYCORNERSTONE

        Yankees not going in that direction anymore just DFA Beltran already and give Flores or Slade a chance

        • blake

          They aren’t going the direction of tossing nearly 30 million out the window to dfa beltran either

          • NYCORNERSTONE

            Seems a bit luxurious to pay it either way when you’re blocking kids that seem ready they can bench him maybe then again who knows he may actually get hot but i said that about Soriano last year too

    • Yankee Trader

      Trade Beltran for Hamilton. This Ranger deal might raise a few red flags.

      From MLBTR’s:

      Rangers Nearing Deal To Acquire Josh Hamilton

      By Jeff Todd [April 24, 2015 at 7:48pm CDT]

      7:15pm: The talks are still “complex” and “volatile” and remain incomplete, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (Twitter links). If the deal is completed, the Rangers will take on less than $15MM and will not send any players to their division rivals.

      Multiple reports indicate that the lack of state income tax in Texas is playing a role, with Bob Nightengale of USA Today tweeting that Hamilton will cede some pay to make the deal work. Hamilton’s gains through tax avoidance would, presumably, even things out (to some extent, at least) on his end.

      If the proposed transaction is indeed one in which the Rangers would assume some of the contract without sending anything in return, and in which Hamilton would give up some guaranteed money, it is not hard to see the complexities. Both the league and union would surely want to take a close look at a deal of that nature.

    • ChuckIt

      When will he be eligible to play again ? Doing a deal for him right now would be senseless if he can’t be used.

    • ChuckIt

      When will he be eligible to play again ? Doing a deal for him right now would be senseless if he can’t be used.

  • LazerTown

    Why can’t we get in on that proposed deal for Hamilton?

  • radnom

    The Free Arod watch continues.

    When the deal was signed, they agreed to a monetary value for these milestones. Since then, Arod has greatly diminished fan interest in him acheiving these milestones through subverting the rules of MLB and US laws. Why should the Yankees be held to the original deal?

    Its for a court to decide, but morally I agree the terms should be revisited.

    Seriously, I get wanting him to play well but sometimes reading this site I get the impression he is a political prisoner.

    There have been way more words of outrage written here over this matter, compared with Arod’s bogus lawsuits against the team when he was lying through his teeth about biogenesis.

    I’m glad the team is fighting this – the guy threw them under the bus when trying to claw out every last penny he could of his contract. They should just hand him 30m for good relations? lol

  • radnom

    The Free Arod watch continues.

    When the deal was signed, they agreed to a monetary value for these milestones. Since then, Arod has greatly diminished fan interest in him acheiving these milestones through subverting the rules of MLB and US laws. Why should the Yankees be held to the original deal?

    Its for a court to decide, but morally I agree the terms should be revisited.

    Seriously, I get wanting him to play well but sometimes reading this site I get the impression he is a political prisoner.

    There have been way more words of outrage written here over this matter, compared with Arod’s bogus lawsuits against the team when he was lying through his teeth about biogenesis.

    I’m glad the team is fighting this – the guy threw them under the bus when trying to claw out every last penny he could of his contract. They should just hand him 30m for good relations? lol

    • Bret The Hitman

      It’s peculiar to say the least.

      • Bret The Hitman

        You even had one fan (Jerkface) who advocated making steroids legal in baseball because there’s no “proof” steroids are detrimental to physiology. Tell that to a human liver.

        • ChuckIt

          Tell that to Jose Cansecos’ liver. & testicles.& testosterone level. &……

        • radnom

          You’d be surprised how many people here think they know better than the FDA and think we should legalize it and be done with it (one less fuzzy variable we can’t quantify – yay).

          Our government has a special exemption allowing this league to exists. What kind of society are we if this league is full of real people, injecting themselves with experimental drugs for our entertainment? Being real here for a moment.

          Doesn’t even mention the kids/adults using drugs in an attempt to make it and never do.

          • Bret The Hitman

            Only a fan or a kid on the playground would argue it’s ok because everyone does it, it’s just that Alex got caught. That is why we have to teach ethics in colleges of business, like on Billy Madison. No institutional review board would ever approve a clinical trial that proved or disproved the “benefits” or “detriments” of steroids on professional athletes.

    • Bret The Hitman

      It’s peculiar to say the least.

    • Bret The Hitman

      There were LOHUD posters who were rooting for Alex to not get suspended and the Yankees not save that 30 million dollars. They also rooted for Alex’s lawsuit against the Yankees to stick (Tar). Any money Alex cost the team is money that can’t be reallocated towards improving the team. I guess in some fan’s eyes he’s still an MVP caliber player like he was when he was taking steroids regularly.

    • Bret The Hitman

      There were LOHUD posters who were rooting for Alex to not get suspended and the Yankees not save that 30 million dollars. They also rooted for Alex’s lawsuit against the Yankees to stick (Tar). Any money Alex cost the team is money that can’t be reallocated towards improving the team. I guess in some fan’s eyes he’s still an MVP caliber player like he was when he was taking steroids regularly.

  • YankeeDJW

    Those YES ratings are brutal. That’s what happens when you have a bad product though. Similar to how the Stadium wasn’t packed last night. When is Hal going to figure out that tarnishing the brand is going to cost him?

  • YankeeDJW

    Those YES ratings are brutal. That’s what happens when you have a bad product though. Similar to how the Stadium wasn’t packed last night. When is Hal going to figure out that tarnishing the brand is going to cost him?

    • radnom

      They don’t have infinite money. Bad baseball decisions have cost them.

      • ChuckIt

        have cost every team, at one time or another. thats part of the biz.

        • radnom

          Profound……

          Listen dude, its possible to understand this and still be unhappy with the rate of bad decisions the current FO makes.

          • ChuckIt

            Yeah, thats a way of life for lifelong Mets Fans. Just like their red hot starts in April, then shit the bed performances from May on out.

    • radnom

      They don’t have infinite money. Bad baseball decisions have cost them.

    • Austinmac

      George always thought winning the back pages and whipping up off season enthusiasm made him money. Hal does not get that because he is of the belief it is simply the Yankee name that brings the fans. I have said for a long time that is foolish. Spending money on good players ultimately makes money. Looking like you care more about the bank account than the team makes more fans look to their bank accounts before spending their time or money.

      • JimK

        That certainly worked for him during the 70’s.

      • JimK

        That certainly worked for him during the 70’s.

      • ChuckIt

        But that theory didn’t work in the 80’s. Look up the rosters, count the new FA AllStars, & divide by # of championships, & your theory becomes flawed.

        • Austinmac

          It worked by making the Yankees another commodity instead of a team who struggled to draw a million fans and who were purchased for a few million dollars. The back page strategy creates interest. Smart strategy creates wins. They can and should incorporate both.

          The Dodgers, by spending, have transformed themselves into a money making machine from a team that was struggling financially.

          • ChuckIt

            mistaken about the Yankees.The ONE thing the Yankees did in the 80’s was win regular season games.From the first season to the present, Steinbrenner ownership has never had a losing season.With George suspended for the mid 80’s-mid 90’s, & Gene Micheal running the show, the Yanks produced W I N N E R S , not amusing conglomerates with former big names,that left

      • Literally Figurative

        Yeah, cuz if they signed moncada, they would be packing them to the rafters….

        • ChuckIt

          i was waiting 4 the obligatory monkeyda comment.

          • Literally Figurative

            I made it cuz I wanna know who would’ve been the signed that would’ve saved the brand from tarnish.

            • ChuckIt

              That wasn’t me.I am rather vocal about the obligatory beating of the dead cuban ,though.

    • Austinmac

      George always thought winning the back pages and whipping up off season enthusiasm made him money. Hal does not get that because he is of the belief it is simply the Yankee name that brings the fans. I have said for a long time that is foolish. Spending money on good players ultimately makes money. Looking like you care more about the bank account than the team makes more fans look to their bank accounts before spending their time or money.

    • SweetSpot

      Tarnish the brand? How? First place? Leading the majors in home runs?

      • Austinmac

        He last two years have most certainly tarnished the brand and greatly reduced expectations. Expectations cause interest. You disagree with that?

        If they win, interest will return, but one-tenth of the season tells us little. Even I am surprised last night as not a sell out.

        • SweetSpot

          The brand is defined by valuation and by the only means of measurement that is publicly known, the Yankees valuation increased 28% last year to $3.2 billion.

          • Austinmac

            That is largely changed as the result of national tv contracts and the like. To me, a brand is about popularity. There are far fewer Yankee hats and other Yankee paraphanalia on the street. To most of the country, they are simply another team these days.

            • SweetSpot

              That’s just not true, Yankee swag is near the top of the list in sales. You can believe brand is defined by popularity but that’s not the case. A brand has no intrinsic value until what it represents is sold. Look at the Clippers; they were not at all popular and sold for $2 billion dollars. I assure you that’s what Yankee ownership cares about.

              • Austinmac

                I think they care about income. They will make less in commercials and less in ticket sales and concessions.

                To what do you attribute the marked decline in viewership?

                • SweetSpot

                  A combination of four things. 1. Jeter’s retirement. 2. The end of the Core Four era which was associated with all those championships. 3. The team’s slow start. 4. Not having a HOF caliber player as the team leader.

                  • Austinmac

                    Don’t disagree. I would add the last two years were a huge factor along with every writer predicting a second division team. These things were all predictable. That’s why they should have spent internationally.

                    • SweetSpot

                      They did. They blew everyone out of the water in July 2014 in the international market; they spent almost $30 million on the best prospects out there.

                  • ChuckIt

                    Speaking on the decline in viewership ; what was the increase during the JFT ? People normally uninterested in BB watched,then disappeared when it was over.pretty simple explanation.

              • ChuckIt

                I suggest you listen carefully to the crowd noise in the background of away games. “Lets go Yankees’ is heard consistently in all big league parks.

              • ChuckIt

                The bottom line is, the Yankees make $$, & they also spend $$ to make money. They are an entity in both the sports & business worlds

        • Farewell Mo and Jeet

          If Hal thinks people are gonna watch and come to the stadium just because they’re the Yankees, he’s wrong. If he runs a mediocre product out there, I expect ratings and attendance to plummet especially with the beloved core players all retired.

          • SweetSpot

            But he obviously has not run a mediocre product out there.

            • Farewell Mo and Jeet

              So far so good but there’s a lot of games yet to play. This looked like a mediocre team on paper before the year started and they started off like crap which is the likely reason of the poor YES ratings early on.

              • SweetSpot

                Right, but there is just no way a team with Tanaka, Betances, Pineda, Gardner, Ellsbury, Miller, McCann, Teixeira, Shreve and Headley, etc., can be credibly referred to as mediocre.

                • Austinmac

                  Were you saying that a week ago?

                  Shreve? He has 20 major league innings.

                  • SweetSpot

                    I was worried about how they played initially; so was Girardi and the players. In the off-season I liked what the front office and Cashman did and still do. Shreve is one player – I like him that’s all discount him if you want.

                • YankeeDJW

                  They could be the very definition of mediocre this year. I’m loving this hot streak they are on, but will be shocked if it continues. Half the players you listed either have serious injury histories or are performing better than expected so far.

        • Barzini

          I agree with you, but to say “tarnish the brand” is a little extreme. The Mets have tarnished their brand these last few years, the Yankees have merely reached a transitional period in their history, imo.

          • Farewell Mo and Jeet

            I agree. More like the interest of casual fans waned with them having a team inferior to what they’ve had for most of the last 20 years.

          • Austinmac

            Maybe tarnishing the brand is not the right choice of words. They have lost fans and lost buzz. They are not a must see for many anymore. Those of us on this board, watch in any circumstance. Many decide what to watch or what to spend money on, and may opt to do something else.

            • JimK

              Maybe Hal is the new Mike Burke.

          • ChuckIt

            RE : the METS. they didn’t just tarnish the brand, they crapped all over it

        • Sir Didi Nakamura

          I’ll bet my life that it sold out last night. Come on

          • Austinmac

            One of the papers reported it did not. I have no doubt it will today. Great weather and a win last night.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Not to mention a guy like Harvey on the mound. If I didn’t work on Saturdays I’m sure me and my best friend, a Met fan, would be on the way to some cheap seats right now.

            • Sir Didi Nakamura

              Maybe I just can’t understand it. I would gladly sit in 0 degree weather to watch a game. I’d gladly watch the Giants play the Packers -10 degree windchill, but my Dad wouldn’t. Guess it’s just good to be young and invincible! I get why people wouldn’t choose to pay over $100 to watch in cold weather. There’s no other explanation besides weather, Yankees-Mets usually always fills, but now that even the Mets fans are excited? How can it not fill? Cold just scared people off, my Dad would do that kind of thing so I get it.

              • ChuckIt

                When you reach your Dads’, you may think differently. When I was Younger,& single, I would gladly drop everything & for free tickets, even if there was rain in the forecast. at 56, I need to consider things like health, economics, wifonomics, etc.

        • JimK

          I think the Y’s tarnished their brand more by building a stadium, which by design, separates the have’s from the have not’s. And for one billion dollars one would think there would not be a seat in the house where a fan can see the entire field.

          • ChuckIt

            Part of the Charm of the pre-1976 Stadium was the columns that partially blocked the view. My 1st ever game , with my father, & 2 older brothers, I had that seat. I was 8, skinny, & active, & that is one of my most vivid memories of that game.

            • JimK

              I watched the Giants play in the old stadium, and had an obstructed view seat; needless to say I was not a big fan of those seats.

              • ChuckIt

                My point was, for me, it was the whole experience, not just the game itself( actually 2-a regular scheduled twi-nighter)

    • SweetSpot

      Tarnish the brand? How? First place? Leading the majors in home runs?

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      Stadium was packed last night, most people were on the concourse because it was freezing. Most times when people say it’s looks empty on TV, most people take their cheap ticket and walk to a better sight line on the concourse. Do you think when they announce 40k+ on TV people are punching their ticket and leaving?

      • Austinmac

        45,310. Less than capacity listed in any site I have seen. Have you any facts?

        • Mandy Stankiewicz

          No one said “to capacity” above. It says “it didn’t looked packed.” I was there, it was freezing and there were thousands of people staying warm on the concourse. Place was pretty crowded and live.

          • Austinmac

            Brave man. It looked really cold. Great game to see. I’m jealous.

            I am planning on catching them in Houston.

          • YankeeDJW

            Makes sense. I’m just surprised the Yanks have trouble selling out Mets or Red Sox games now. They used to sell out months in advance.

            • Havok9120

              Ranked #4 in average home attendance so far (it should be noted that the weather has been bad and the three teams ahead of us are the Cards, the Giants, and the Dodgers), ranked 5th in average proportion of the Stadium sold per night, ranked 8th in total home attendance despite playing fewer games than anyone else in the top 10.

              As usual, the “attendance is dying! Sound the alarm!” shouts are a little louder than the data justifies.

              • YankeeDJW

                I was reading that MLB set an attendance record for the first few weeks of the season, which is remarkable given the weather.

              • Austinmac

                That is a sound in your head, I fear. The fact was a 21% decline in Yes viewership from the warmth of one’s home. And yes, they didn’t sell out for the Mets or I believe the Sox.

                • ChuckIt

                  Was that live game viewership, or overall ? they tend to air old programming,& some of it in consecutive sets. if the Munson game is on, 2 hrs aprt 3 times in one day, do you expect people to watch it every time? sometimes a show will be on everyday at some time, all week. I’m a fan of the yankees, but i don’t watch YES 24/7

                  • JimK

                    I believe he was referring to the live games.

                    • ChuckIt

                      Don’t they live stream them now? do those figures include watching on your mobile device, or other Apps? Lot of new factors you have to figure into the equation nowadays.

                    • YankeeDJW

                      Does YES stream games? MLB.tv is blacked out for in-market games, so that can’t be a bit contributor to the decline.

                    • ChuckIt

                      I am just asking.I probably never watch a game other than on a TV set, network or Yes. You also have overlapping seasons Playoffs for basketball & hockey are on, with local teams competing. lots of reasons for ratings to go down, besides uninterested fans. Combine any 2 or more, & that can account for lots of viewers tuning in to something else.

                    • JimK

                      He was probably referring to YES only.

                    • Sir Didi Nakamura

                      I don’t think MLB.tv YES streaming counts, just if you are watching on a TV. But it should and should be allowed to watch in market!

                • Havok9120

                  Which is a fantastic way of ignoring all of the data that I just put in front of you that says, relative to the rest of the league, the situation is not nearly so dire as people that are unhappy with ownership are trying to paint it.

              • Sir Didi Nakamura

                I don’t think attendance is down, but the stadium does definitely look emptier at times. You get what I mean?

                • Havok9120

                  Sure. The weather is terrible and there are other, warmer, places to hang out during the game.

                  With weather like this, I would go hang out in one of the all-you-can-eat restaurants, too, if I had Legends seats.

            • ChuckIt

              maybe some people just got tired of competing with ticket agencies to get the seats at the fair market value

              • JimK

                I believe he is referring to the actual live games.

                • ChuckIt

                  So am i. A few years back, i tried, with 5 friends, to get seats four or five days in advance( hardly last minute) & could only find 50.00 gamedays,online,through an agent, for $200, we said screw it

                  • JimK

                    Chuck, my reply is in the wrong location; I was referring to Austinmac’s claim that live game viewers are down 21%.

                    • ChuckIt

                      Sorry.My mistake

        • ChuckIt

          In over all ticket sales? I’ve been at boston games, then watched a replay at home, and on tv it seemed empty in spots, but I knew from being there that the fans from both sides would clique in other areas, just to hang out for a few to rag at each other. Happens with the Mets too.

          • Austinmac

            I think that is a ticket sold number whether they are there or not.

    • Literally Figurative

      Tarnishing the brand is such a drama queen statement.

      Did George tarnish the brand in the 80s? For all the buzz and free agents and trades, there were tons of times you watch on wpix and saw oceans of empty seats.

      The team is transitioning and fans are reactionary rubes who follow what bill madden and ESPN tell them.

      The Mets are taking over the town, so now you get every Fairweather fan parroting this line of gibberish.

      Where are the Mets better than the yankees? Harvey equals tanaka, Pineda bosses degrom as we saw last night. Our pen and defense are better. Lineups are close. But the media has a stake in stirring up the pot and the Johnny come lately fans ate it.

      • YankeeDJW

        Wow, I caused quite the stir. ;) You sure took it seriously…I’ll let others duke it out below.

        • Literally Figurative

          It’s not you. I just hate narratives not based in fact. Fans stop watching because the mouth pieces tell them to.

  • Yankee Trader

    Many think May’s over the shoulder catch in the 1954 World Series was the greatest ever. Mays thinks he has made better, and today those over the shoulder catches after a long run seem more routine.

    For me, this ranks as one of the best outfield catches ever made, especially for its significance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8y-58Usl78
    What’s yours?
    To stay on topic, did this catch warrant a little bonus? Steak dinner?

    • JimK

      The kid in RF during the 96 playoffs

      • radnom

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0XcIgwcOAc

        Slightly less ground to cover than Souza haha, but a bigger moment imo – and a great catch.

        • JimK

          I meant the kid in the RF stands

          • YankeeDJW

            Jeffrey Maier (sp?).

            • JimK

              Yeah, I could not remember his name,

          • radnom

            haha well this one was the first to come to my mind. It was a good year.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Given it’s importance, I gotta Endy Chavez in game 6 of the NLCS. If the Mets win that series that’s easily top 2 or 3 catches of all time for everybody.

  • JLC 776

    Yankee Stadium Dirty Sanchez night. Can’t wait.

  • SweetSpot

    The most interesting thing about the Yankee-A-Rod home run bonus controversy to me is the following. From what I understand, when the Yankees refuse to declare 660 as “a marketable milestone,” and A-Rod and the MLBPA file a grievance, A-Rod will be required to appear as a witness before the arbitrator and be questioned by the Yankee’s attorneys. Under oath. Clearly, any and all questions about his PED use will be relevant.

    • JimK

      If memory serves me right, Alex had to testify at his suspension hearing, therefore this would be nothing new for him.

      • Dalek Jeter

        He never did though, remember he walked out (and called the whole thing a farce) when the arbitrator decided that Selig didn’t have to testify.

        • JimK

          That’s right; it seems my memory is serving me right less and less these days.

          • SweetSpot

            I forgot that as well.

        • radnom

          A BS misdirection to avoid lying or admitting guilt (his only options at that stage), obvious to anyone with half a brain but eaten up by a certain segment of fans who hate Selig’s guts. Clever PR strategy.

        • Barzini

          This is another one of those things that doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. Alex was angered by the fact that Selig was not compelled to testify, the hearing was a farce for this reason, and yet Alex walked right out of there and never testified himself. Obviously, he wasn’t forced to testify, I don’t think you can compel anybody to testify in an arbitration hearing, so where is the injustice?

          • Dalek Jeter

            Alex thought he had a right to question his accuser, the arbitrator decided since Manfred had headed up the Biogenesis investigation that he was a perfectly suitable representative of the MLB in the case. Alex disagreed, and saw right there that there was no way the arbitrator would decide in his favor so decided to not testify and potentially make himself look worse.

            • radnom

              delusional

              • Dalek Jeter

                Alex or myself? Because that is how I remember events playing out almost exactly, as for Alex, it wasn’t a terrible move. It allowed him to save what little face he had.

                • radnom

                  Alex. It was a good move, but the people who buy that is was a reasonable request (the author of this blog included) are delusional. Its the equivalent of someone being prosecuted by the government to demand that the president testify. It was a total sham, designed to draw attention.

            • Sir Didi Nakamura

              I still think the suspension was bullshit. He shouldn’t have gotten 200 games or whatever he got. Braun got off easier than A-Rod and I think it’s ridiculous.

              • Dalek Jeter

                Agreed, the only reason I’ve been on Alex’s side, especially in relation to him vs the MLB is because just the number of games was farcical and had a distinct witch-hunty vibe for a dude that still hasn’t tested positive since 2003.

          • ChuckIt

            Remember: A-rod was also still angry that his name came out in connection with the “voluntary anonymous test” he took, was published far & wide. the league & it’s officials had to have a hand in that, wether it was just poor security measures, or a personal vendetta.

      • Austinmac

        He didn’t testify. Remember, he ran out saying it was all a witch hunt.

      • SweetSpot

        He was not questioned by the Yankee’s attorneys. I assure you, when $6 million and more is on the line their advocacy for their client will be far different than that of the MLB representatives.

        • feztonio

          they should get that arbitrator on the Kei Igawa 20 million dollars – at least A-Rod is helping win games and lengthen the line up. Igawa gave them exactly 2 wins the entire length of the five-year deal. that’s just two more wins than I’ve gotten, and I don’t even play. if the team is suddenly going to get all butthurt over the stupid deals they sign players to, get working on this and the Carl Pavano deals to recoup some of that money.

        • Giuseppe Franco

          Every time the Yanks try some legal matter to get out of paying guys that used PEDs they end up losing.

          They’ve tried to get out of A-Rod’s contract in the past as well as Giambi’s contract after he was caught. Both went nowhere.

          Now they’ll end up paying more for legal fees for a dragged out legal process than it would be to just pay him and take advantage of a little publicity.

          • SweetSpot

            Maybe they will change their minds and pay him. If not, I hardly think legal fees will be their concern.

    • Austinmac

      As will Yankee knowledge of his use if any.

      • SweetSpot

        Sure.

      • Dalek Jeter

        It would be interesting to see if/when the Yankees were made aware of Alex’s failed test in ’03.

    • Dalek Jeter

      It’d be a nice bit of theatre, but beyond that, seems like nothing but a distraction (for fans, players, and the organization) from what’s really important: the games.

      • Austinmac

        I don’t think paying him or not will affect anything on the field from AROD or anyone else. It will be determined after the season, I believe.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Idk, from what I understand from what Mike pasted above is that legal recourse would begin within 30 days of the milestone homer.

          • Austinmac

            That may be true, but no hearing or resolution will likely comes for long after. These things don’t move quickly.

  • feztonio

    6 million doesn’t seem worth fighting about. as the man said, just make up some junky tshirts and recoup the cash. they saved almost 30 million by not signing Moncada anyways, so there’s the money for all the milestones right there.

    and of course YES network viewership is down; i’d imagine that the current business plan of not making major free agent splashes and actually lopping 40 to 50 million or so off payroll to get under 189 is not good for ticket sales, and not good for viewership.

    though it could be worse, I drove past Philly’s stadium row thursday afternoon – the Marlins were playing the Phillys in an afternoon game. you can see into the upper few tiers of the stadium – from what looks like about centerfield to the 3rd base side, and from the highway it looked like barely a dozen spectators where up there.

    so while the Yankees aren’t doing quite that bad, I would imagine theyre not selling every single game out the past couple years as they had been, and if they don’t recognize that the spending and product on the field has a direct affect on how badly people want to go to or watch a game, then they’re more out of touch than previously thought.

    • Dalek Jeter

      The logic that big payrolls and stars fills the seats is flawed though. Go back and look at tape from the late 80s and early 90s and you’ll see the entire upper deck in fair territory on both sides of the stadium completely deserted. What brings fans is winning, whether the payroll is 150mil or 750mil.

      • feztonio

        the late 80’s early 90’s? so the Hensley Meulens, bob brower, jimmy jones, and gary ward Yankees? if you were old enough to remember those late 80’s to early 90’s teams you’d know they were terrible and not the mid 90’s core four quality.

        it was Mattingly and AARP members tommy john (the player not the medical procedure), and goose gossage. i guess you can throw the horrible ball player / HOF gridiron Deion Sanders into this discussion for name recognition, but those teams prior to 1996 were abysmal.

        they didn’t draw much in those times, nor did they deserve to.

        • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

          How dare you lump Gary Ward in with those other 3. He was released very early in 1989 and didn’t really play with those other 3.

          And, also, those are your picks to define those bad Yankees teams?

          • feztonio

            it was more i was too lazy to type in every name. but since you’re too lazy to go to baseball-almanac.com, i’ll do it for you (every player who touched dirt with the big club in 1989).

            pitchers;
            greg cadaret, joh candelaria, chuck cary, boby davidson, richard dotson, dave eiland, goos, lee guetterman, andy hawkins, john, jimmy jones, dave lapoint, al leither, lance mccullers, kevin mmahat, dale mohorcic, scott nielsen, clay parker, eric plunk, dave righetti, don schultze, walt terrell.

            catchers;
            brian dorsett, bob geren, jamie quirk, don slaught

            infield;
            mike blowers, tom brookens, alvaro espinoza, steve kiefer, mattingly, hensley meulens, mike pagliarulo, steve sax, wayne tolleson, randy velarde.

            outfield;
            jesse barfield, bob brower, mell hall, rickey henderson (an actual HOF’er !!!), stan jefferson (not so much), roberto kelly, marcus lawton, hal morris, luis polonia, neon deion, gary ward.

            rando;
            steve balboni, ken phelps

            • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

              You missed the point of what I said, and you took what I said way too seriously.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              Al Leither was particularly terrible.

      • Some Asshole

        This, though I believe the Yankees did not have the top payroll in the MLB for a couple of those years. I’d have to look back. Still, terrible teams = terrible attendance.

  • YankeeFan™

    Just pay the man !! if hes hitting and helping out the club i say pay him his money.

  • Aldukes

    I like the fact that some of the players are growing mustaches for the winning streak. No shot they try and do that if Jeter was still around

    • Austinmac

      I do too. It is important to have fun. It is, at the end of the day, a game.

    • Giuseppe Franco

      What does Jeter have to do with it?

      Giambi grew a really bad mustache (is there a such thing as a really good mustache?) several years back.

      Some thought Jeter didn’t like the whole pie thing in 2009. I don’t think Jeter is quite that uptight about trivial things.

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        I doubt Jeter would care, he seemed like a guy who just wanted to win and have fun. If they did pies and were 60-102, I’m sure he’d be angry that they were having so much fun while being 60-102. Good thing they won 100 games (Did they? Can’t remember) I bet Jeter doesn’t join them and grow a mustache though. Didn’t Jared Burton start this early in Spring Training? I remember Mike saying something about that in the Spring.

        • Giuseppe Franco

          Yeah, I don’t think Jeter would join his teammates in growing a mustache but I also don’t think he’d care if his teammates did.

          Not sure who started the mustache thing. I didn’t pay as close attention to games in ST as I usually do.

          They won 103 games in 2009.

          • Austinmac

            I think it was Gardner.

            • Sir Didi Nakamura

              He’s going to look like an idiot with a mustache. This is going to be so good/bad. They’ll look stupid but it will be hilarious.

          • Sir Didi Nakamura

            Just the thought of him caring makes me laugh. That’s kind of ridiculous, don’t you think?

            • Giuseppe Franco

              I think so.

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        Rollie Fingers and Catfish Hunter had really good mustaches.
        In fact the Swingin A’s of the 70’s all had great mustaches. Sal Bando, Joe Rudi, Gene Tenace…

  • ChuckIt

    Has it ocurred to anyone that this so called controversy was created & fed to catch headlines ? George did that all the time.

  • SweetSpot

    Even with the slow start, the Yankees lead the American League in home attendance, averaging more than 41,000 fans per game. The comments below about the team not drawing are just factually incorrect.

    • Austinmac

      How does that compare to last year?

      • SweetSpot

        For the entire 2014 season the Yankees led the American League in attendance averaging more than 42,000 per game.

        • LazerTown

          Should go up when the weather warms up I would think, especially if they are contenders.

        • feztonio

          too lazy to retype it all, but as I responded to a previous reply..

          41,000 is impressive but max capacity is 50,291 (and can go higher if they cram extra seating in, such as they do during the playoffs). so factually speaking 41,000 is 81% of capacity. during their high-water era of 1995 through 2009, they were not only selling out frequently, but the old stadium’s max capacity was 57,545. so they were selling 16,545 more tickets in the championship run years than they are in 2015.

          • SweetSpot

            What matters is what Yankee attendance is relative to the other teams in baseball today as that takes into account all other factors associated with the sport including the general economy and financial environment.

            • feztonio

              Nope. By that logic of every other team only sold 100 tickets per home game but the Yankees sold 101 then they’d be happy?

              The club makes a huge portion of revenue by selling tickets. They built a new stadium and installed 50,000 seats for a reason- that they think they can sell 50,000 tickets and their business model is based on it. As of now they’re only selling 80%. Which means they’re falling 20% short on the income side. That’s some serious deficiency in income.

              It’s not just the ticket sales either. It’s not just the ticket sales either It’s working it’s the programs it’s the $10 nachos the $12 beers $300 game used jersey’s it’s the parking it’s the programs it’s the $10 nachos the $12 beers the $300 game used jersey’s, $40 T-shirts.

              The more tickets they sell more souvenirs they sell in the more money they make

              • SweetSpot

                Where do you get your information that the Yankees projected they would sell 50,000 seats every game and their business model is based on that. Link please.

                • feztonio

                  Because they put 50,000 seats in why would they put in 50,000 if they only intended to sell 40,000 ? If nothing else they could save the value of 10,000 seats if they only made Max seating 40K. Companies aren’t in the position of spending extra money on things they don’t intend to sell

                  • SweetSpot

                    You’re wrong. The Yankees led the AL in attendance last year and they lead again this year. No one sells 50K seats every night and no one puts exactly the amount of seats in a stadium they think they are going to sell. By any and all means of measurement the Yankees attendance is strong.

                • feztonio

                  Part of building a stadium is a study on how many tickets you project to sell. It’s how a team decided how many physical seats to make it. Do they install 20,000, or 50,000 or 80,000? It’s why football stadiums tend toward seat 80k while baseball seats 45k and basketball/hockey 18k.

                  If your asking do I have a link to what the Yankees studied prior to finalizing the new stadium then no I don’t.

                  But if the team felt they could sell 300,000 tickets a game I assure you the capacity would be 300,000.

          • JimK

            The seats were much cheaper at the old stadium; 2009 was in the new stadium.

            • feztonio

              You’re right about 2009 the new stadium But ticket value I don’t take into consideration well bleacher take it may have been slightly cheaper at the old stadium , The new stadium is hundreds of more corporate suites in luxury boxes which bring in way more revenue then an extra two dollars per bleacher seat

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      I’ll admit, the stadiums look very empty sometimes around the league. I’ve seen Yankee Stadium be quite empty for quite a few games thus far, which makes these numbers seem wrong. Am I the only one? Maybe I just let one or two games cloud my judgement here.

      • LazerTown

        Well don’t they go by ticket sales rather than actual entrance numbers?

        • Sir Didi Nakamura

          Yeah I’m pretty sure.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Ticket sales, yeah, which is really all the MLB or owners care about. Sure they’d love for people to show up and buy shit while actually at the game, but what is really important to them is the tickets get sold.

          • LazerTown

            I’m sure they want people to show up. Any food people buy gives way more revenue than any additional expenses.

      • SweetSpot

        Some fans are in the concourse, restaurants and restrooms at any given time and there are those that don’t use their tickets for whatever reason. etc.

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          Oh you mean the rich corporate types who buy their season tickets so they can attend the post season? They don’t go to any games or even know what a baseball looks like.

    • JimK

      Whenever I see highlights of the great Y’s teams of the 50’s, the stadium never looks even remotely full, and those were the real Y’s dynasty teams.

    • feztonio

      not drawing compared to how they drew before. 41,000 is impressive but max capacity is 50,291 (and can go higher if they cram extra seating in, such as they do during the playoffs). so factually speaking 41,000 is 81% of capacity. during their high-water era of 1995 through 2009, they were not only selling out frequently, but the old stadium’s max capacity was 57,545. so they were selling 16,545 more tickets in the championship run years than they are in 2015.

      • ÅndyInSunnyDB

        The Yankees always did well, attendance wise, during the Dynasty years, but it really jumped when Arod joined the team…
        ’96 – 2.25M, ’97 – 2.5M, ’98 – 2.95M, ’99 – 3.2M, ’00 – 3.0M, ’01 – 3.2M, ’02 – 3.4M, ’03 – 3.4M, ’04 -3.7M, ’05 – 4.0M, ’06 – 4.2M, ’07 – 4.2M, ’08 – 4.3M

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          Arod is still a drawing card. He is still looked at as a superstar who can hit one a long way at any given moment.

      • RetroRob

        The 50K capacity number is mostly fiction. It includes these standing-room only tix. Capacity is around 48K for most regular season games. Averaging 41K is very high. They’ve certainly lost attendance as the team has trended down, but those are still quite good. And, as Andy notes below, the dynasty years with the much-higher capacity YSII averaged less until the latter years, partly driven by the closing of the Stadium, A-Rod, etc.

  • Some Asshole

    It’s 2017 in my “real” OOTP game and the Red Sox have proposed a trade in which they get Rodriguez in return. My Yankees are under .500 since I played under the guise of trying to clear off the contracts, injuries and regression have taken care of the rest. Now I’m intrigued.

    • DeutschlandNY

      NO!!!!!!!

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      You trade A-Rod and I’ll hate you forever. How’s Judge and Bird doing? When I first played this year my first save Judge developed to a 3-5 WAR guy until he “died” at 30 and Bird had 3 good seasons but one year was a Triple Crown with a 7 WAR. He was going to get MVP but I said NO to the AI and gave it to New York Yankee Michael Trout instead.

      • Some Asshole

        Bird is in the MLB lineup but isn’t doing well (OPS in the low .600s), which is weird given that he crushed it every other time. Judge was “meh” in Triple-A but was passable in brief call-ups. Heathcott did well in his time.

        • Sir Didi Nakamura

          That’s cool. Glad to know it’s not always a sure thing with certain prospects because it definitely feels that way.

  • ChuckIt

    To a topic not discussed today; where are those 2 guys who were arguing with me about dropping Tex in the batting order/ Still want to do that ?

    • JimK

      When was Michael Kay here?

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        He hates it, he hates it

        • Dalek Jeter

          I think they edited that out of the encore! One of the reasons I watched the encore last night was to see that…it could’ve been the scotch but I completely missed it.

          • JacobyWanKenobi
            • Dalek Jeter

              Yeah, maybe it was the scotch and the low volume but I totally missed that last night.

            • Sir Didi Nakamura

              You can hear it easily here

          • Barzini

            You can hear loud and clear in the condensed game.

            “Michael Kay hates it. He hates it.” right as he passes ARod

            I think it has to do with Kay’s obsession with beating the shift as Tex said after the game something along the lines of “the best way to beat the shift is to hit bombs”

            • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

              Kay will never be one of the boys. He’d love to but just can’t hang.

              • Sir Didi Nakamura

                What?

          • Sir Didi Nakamura

            http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2015_04_24_nynmlb_nyamlb_1&mode=video

            It’s in there. 31 seconds “Teixeira’s Second Two-Run Homer” It’s the YES broadcast one. You can hear it there as he touches home plate.

          • RetroRob

            They definitely edited it out of the encore. I missed it originally, so I wanted to hear it. Couldn’t. Yet I can on taped replays that MLB has of the call. That leads me to believe there might be a serious grudge, as hard as that is considering the two participants.

            • Dalek Jeter

              It’s hard to believe Tex takes it seriously. Kay on the other hand? It’s hard to believe he doesn’t’ take everything relating to him personally seriously. Dude’s ego should have its own zipcode.

              • RetroRob

                I don’t think Kay is malicious, but he definitely has an ego.

        • Camilo Esturniche

          that sounded like it was tex yelling that, an inside joke b/n tex and alex?

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      The new topic is dropping Beltran now

      • whileaway

        completely or down in the order ?

        • Sir Didi Nakamura

          To the dumpster

          • whileaway

            last year NY released Soriano mid-July and Brian Roberts early August.

            Drew and Beltran ?

            • Sir Didi Nakamura

              That was different. Not for Drew, but for Beltran. That’s 23m+ I’m guessing that they’d need to drop.

              • JacobyWanKenobi

                He’s going to get every chance to get it going, but if he doesn’t, they’ll have to consider that the subtraction of Beltran + even a replacement level Heathcott or Flores would be a better use of 23MM, both of those two are tearing it up right now.

                • JacobyWanKenobi

                  Not to mention more Chris Young playing time!

                • Jorge Steinbrenner

                  The better use of 23m is always giving it to me.

                  • JacobyWanKenobi

                    If you could break me off like half a mil to cover student loans, a new car, and a place to live I’d be down.

            • NYCORNERSTONE

              Soriano didn’t make it to july

              • whileaway

                if I´m not mistaken he was released on July 15th or so

                • NYCORNERSTONE

                  Didn’t know seemed like it was really early

                  • whileaway

                    probably because he was riding the pines

                • Jorge Steinbrenner

                  Without an extra year left on his deal.

            • Dalek Jeter

              Beltran will finish this year on the team, he’s still under contract for next year…a year from now if he’s still looking cooked then maybe the Yankees have a conversation about cutting him next June/July if he’s not playing well.

              • whileaway

                do you really thing NY will carry Beltran for that long even though he might be toast ?

                • Dalek Jeter

                  Yeah, look at how long they held onto Sori and Roberts last year and they both looked like toast and were only under contract for one year.

            • blake

              They owe beltran 30 million dollars ….it’s not happening….and Drew is playing pretty well

      • Dalek Jeter

        I thought it was beheading or burning at the stake for Beltran and Gregorious?

        I personally think burn at the stake for Beltran, beheading for Gregorious. Didi is a knight after all, he deserves an honorable death.

        • Sir Didi Nakamura

          Wait Didi hasn’t been taken care of yet? Thought we voted to have that down after Opening Day?

          • Dalek Jeter

            He’s demanded a trial by combat, the Yankees haven’t been able to find a suitable champion. Jeter’s “too old for that shit” (exact quote) and nobody in the front office wants anything to do with Didi while holding a sword.

      • JimK

        I thought that topic started after about 5 games, and boy was Drew happy.

      • NYCORNERSTONE

        Just bench him Young deserves to start against all pitching just not going to happen since Carlos bats left and theres a short porch

        • Dalek Jeter

          I think Young’s .227/.295/.416 slash line and 85 wRC+ against RHP in his career has something to do with it too.

          • JacobyWanKenobi

            Young is starting vs Harvey, apparently because Harvey has reverse splits, but that’s total BS, they know Beltran is cooked

            • RetroRob

              If they’ve reached that conclusion, then Young against RH pitching is most certainly not the answer.

              • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

                I don’t think they like Jones in the OF.

                • RetroRob

                  They signed Jones to be the platoon/4th OFer because he can play all three positions. He just can’t hit RH’d pitching. They like him. They just don’t want him playing every game. He’s in the best role for him now at this point of his career.

          • NYCORNERSTONE

            Its a new year and hes hot ride the hot hand

        • ChuckIt

          Never know. He may get hot, then some other poor sap hits a slump, then it’s his turn in the barrel

          • NYCORNERSTONE

            Thats whats so great about baseball you never know

  • calripyankee

    I think Didi had his best game defensively last night.. And Beltran’s swing looks a little better..

    • whileaway

      Let´s hope Beltran can switch gears. Will Drew ever get his average up to .250 ?

      • calripyankee

        .250?? How about .200??

        • JacobyWanKenobi

          Who cares about his batting average, if he can hit a sac fly or an occasional home run and keep playing really solid D he’s fine.

          • calripyankee

            Maybe he needs to be the rally starter every once in a while.. Like his D, he saved Headley’s azz the other night..

            • JacobyWanKenobi

              There’s no rally starting when Didi hits behind you.

              • calripyankee

                Didi’s more consistant than Drew..

                • JacobyWanKenobi

                  I’ll take drew’s .165 4hr 9rbi over Didi’s .200 0 hr 4rbi :)

          • JimK

            Fans will not care as long as the Y’s keep winning and scoring more runs than we have been accustomed to over the past two years; when the Y’s have a stretch where they resemble the 62 Mets, believe me, the Fans will care.

          • SweetSpot

            That.

        • whileaway

          .200 is useless. Oh wait a minute.

      • blake

        Probably not….but if he plays good defense and hits 15-20 homers then it won’t matter ….defensively he’s been really good and he’s contributing offensively . That’s all he needs to do

        • whileaway

          it will matter. A guy hitting .190 doesn´t stand a chance of playing everyday.

          • blake

            He will get above .200 but it’s about production…..BA is just one thing….he’s OPSing .701 and has 9 RBI in 15 games. They’ll takw that with his D all year

    • NYCORNERSTONE

      He just doesn’t swing at good pitches anymore last night with bases loaded that at bat showed he’s cooked

    • blake

      He’s looking more comfortable….for whatever reason the first 10 games or so he looked like he was playing SS on a field of eggshells and was afraid to break one

  • SweetSpot

    Young starting in place of Beltran against an ace right-hander.

    Ellsbury CF
    Gardner LF
    Rodriguez DH
    Teixeira 1B
    McCann C
    Young RF
    Headley 3B
    Drew 2B
    Gregorius SS

    • calripyankee

      That’s good.. Hope it’s a trend..

  • JacobyWanKenobi

    Apparently Dellin “Babyface” Betances is really struggling to grow his mustache.

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      Haha, it’s like David Phelps’ beard this season.

  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

    I give this mustache idea 2 weeks then they can all shave them off together in unity.

    • blake

      After they win the WS

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        Yeah, after they win the WS.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Man, there would be some ridiculous mustaches if that’s the case. I’d love to see some fu manchus, some Rollie Fingers, a few classic 1970s Burt Reynolds…

        • blake

          Lettuce hope

          • Dalek Jeter

            Yes, Lettuce.

        • ChuckIt

          the handle bar style wasn’t just a Fingers trademark.quite a few other A’s wore them,too.One of Charlie Finleys’ brainstorms. Like the nicknames, complete with phony origin stories.”Catfish” was completely fabricated by Finley, for Hunter, as was “Blue Moon” Odom.

        • vicki

          goose got away with it, because he’s goose; but i wouldn’t get my hopes up for the grander topiaries. remember more recent case sal fasano, before and after the trade.

          http://willdo.pwblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/102408fasano.jpg

          https://thenastyboys.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/fasano_yanks_1728.jpg

          • Some Asshole

            Much better afterwards. WTF is that shit going around his chin?

    • ChuckIt

      And sell it to give A-Rod his bonus for passing Mays, if Hal won’t

  • Pat M

    Just finished playing back the video on Pineda’s outing last night. He’s going to get better folks.

    • blake

      You’ve been in his corner from the start….even when he was hurt

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        He wasn’t one of the lunatic fringe.

        • Fletch

          it destroyed a blog

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            Not sure that’s the case.

          • blake

            The stuff that went on with privacy breaches is why ultimately I think the paper torched it…..

  • HoopDreams

    A big game from Young would be swell

  • dkidd

    sweet ‘stache

    thanks, bro

  • Dalek Jeter

    For the record, the Horrendously Stupid tag is still one of my favorites.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      It’s no “Death by Bullpen,” but yes.

    • radnom

      Misapplied in this instance. The Yankees not fighting for those bonuses would be horrendously stupid. Its business and thats serious money.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Who is to say it isn’t about the mustaches or the soccer on a baseball field?

        • radnom

          Because the article is neutral towards both, and critical regarding the issue I mentioned. I don’t think I was being presumptuous.

  • Sports Guy

    To be honest, Im actually enjoying watching NYCFC. When Lampard comes in the summer the team will be better

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    Christ almighty, no ‘staches, please.

    • Dalek Jeter
      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Bag of motherfucking dicks for you, sir.

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        Is that your go-to cartoon?

        • Dalek Jeter

          One of many, yes.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          It’s a good one. He can go screw himself for using it on someone who’d only be old enough to be his dad if he fathered him around sophomore year of high school, though.

          • Dalek Jeter

            Actual age has nothing to do with curmudgeonliness, which is what I feel this represents.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              http://www.bagofdicks.com has a trojan attached to it? Why is that incredibly fitting?

              • Dalek Jeter

                Does it?

                • Jorge Steinbrenner

                  Kaspersky blocked it and immediately set off ten alarms.

                  • Dalek Jeter

                    Ha, I’m not going to try it here because my malwarebytes at work is way out of date and I don’t have the admin password to fix it and my bosses response was “well if you aren’t going on sites you aren’t supposed to be going on you won’t get viruses anyway” completely overlooking the fact that he watches illegal streams of soccer matches whenever he’s here and we’ve become inundated with malware because of it.

                    • Jorge Steinbrenner

                      Hmm. It didn’t set off Malwarebytes, though.

                    • Dalek Jeter

                      Do you have the premium package? the free one will only delete the malware later, premium will block sites that have malware that is in their database.

              • Refstroke Heathcott

                Actually probably a trojan for each dick, no?

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            Yet you are one of the older fellas here…original members of course.

            • Jorge Steinbrenner

              Ropeadope, Retrorob, and Thunderfingers overlap me.

              Besides, I thought we were all family now, grandpa.

              #onlylohudwhenitsconveeeeeenient

        • Some Asshole

          That cloud had it coming.

    • vicki

      #TeamStache.

      • Refstroke Heathcott

        Ready for Rollie Betances

  • Pat M

    Alex should announce that all bonus dough will be donated to the NY school sports programs. Everyone prospers unless Levine talks Hank and Hal out of it

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Alex’s money has already help build some very good school programming through the Children’s Aid Society.

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        Alex has a chance to really change his image in NY sports history here with the winning of an MVP and a Title.
        We can dream…

        • Tony Wilson

          Hopefully that comes to fruition. The potential is definitely there, it will be interesting to see where they are after 50 and then 81 games.

      • radnom

        His money has also helped get testosterone to 12-16 yr olds in the Dominican through Yuri Sucart and Biogenesis.

    • DeutschlandNY

      Go to Florida around Christmas. He is there always helping.

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      Better in Randy’s pocket?

  • vwnut13

    I hear there is a football stadium in New Jersey…

  • Fletch

    Jones and Beltran may loom as overlaps at some point

    If Heathcott continues to play well (and Flores too) at some point a Young/Heathcott-Flores platoon should become viable

    If Jones does not show much, he could the one left out, even if he shows more than Beltran, given salary

    Something will have to give on the present course

  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

    I can see Harvey throwing at somebody today just for the fear factor.

    • RetroRob

      We know he’ll want to do well against the Yankees. Harvey wants to be a Yankee more than anyone on the Yankees.

      • levendis

        In all seriousness I fully expect the Yankees to sign both him and Harper to some mega contracts in 2019. Long way from that though.

        • Looser Trader FotD™

          Yeah Mets more likely to trade him in 2017-18 off season for a prospect haul than they are to sign him. Poor Wilpons. Risk is he’ll sign an extension with whomever he’s traded to assuming they have the stomach for like a 12/400mm contract…

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      I’d rather him eat a live scorpion or something.

  • vicki

    i will buy an AROD660 shirt right now. name your price, steinbrood.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Co-sign.

  • Alex Longendyke

    I’m not surprised YES’s ratings are down. It is April, the Yankees are favorites and the booth adds nothing to the broadcast 9 games out of 10. I like the former players in the booth because they say interesting and fun things but Michael Kay make me want to turn the game off more times than not. I always love it when the subway series comes around because I can listen to the Mets broadcasters. Sometimes I’ll watch the Met game just because of the announcers. YES needs to shake things up up there. I don’t care how much ESPN might like Kay.