Cashman: “I do need to find a right-handed arm for the bullpen”

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This should come as no surprise. During an MLB Network radio interview late last week (audio link), Brian Cashman confirmed the Yankees are indeed looking for another right-handed reliever. They’re currently carrying two righties (Dellin Betances, Esmil Rogers) and five lefties (Andrew Miller, Justin Wilson, Chasen Shreve, Jacob Lindgren, Chris Capuano) in the bullpen, which is unusual, if nothing else.

“We lined up a lot of moves this winter to give ourselves a really deep bullpen, some of which have really paid dividends” said the GM. “Others, recently with the designation of David Carpenter, haven’t. So, I need to probably find a right-handed arm. Not probably, I do need to find a right-handed arm for the bullpen here at some point. We have Miller, Betances, Wilson, Shreve, Lindgren, Capuano and Esmil Rogers as the long man.

“Really, outside of Dellin Betances there’s only one right-handed arm out there and he’s the long man, so I’ve got a number of lefties out there in Wilson and Shreve and Lindgren that all can get righties out. At least that’s the benefit of those guys, so it’s not as much of a pressing issued, but I certainly would love to get an arm that Carpenter I think is, but it’s just not here in New York.”

The five-lefty bullpen isn’t necessarily a problem right now because, at the very least, four of those lefties can get righties out. The only real question mark is Lindgren, a rookie with only a handful of weeks in the show who is not yet in the Circle of Trust™. But still, it would be nice to have a more balanced bullpen, especially since the Yankees have series coming up with the righty heavy Nationals, Marlins, Tigers, and Astros.

The Triple-A options are plentiful — Jose Ramirez, Branden Pinder, Danny Burawa, and Bryan Mitchell are all on the 40-man roster — but it’s unlikely any of those guys would jump right into any kind of high (or even medium) leverage role. The Yankees need a righty for the seventh inning, basically. What Adam Warren — or heck, even Shawn Kelley — was last season. That was the role Carpenter was supposed to fill.

It is worth noting right-hander Nick Rumbelow has started working longer stints in Triple-A — he’s thrown at least two innings and 26+ pitches in four of his last five appearances — which is what the Yankees had Lindgren do before he was called up. Rumbelow has a 4.03 ERA (3.00 FIP) with a 27.1 K% this year after pitching to a 2.62 ERA (2.05 FIP) with a 34.0 K% at four levels last year, and he really impressed in Spring Training. That doesn’t mean he is coming up, but Rumbelow has to be considered a bullpen candidate for now.

Pretty much no team is ready to sell at the moment — I’m sure the Phillies would trade Jonathan Papelbon today, but nah — so the trade market is thin. Free agent Rafael Soriano will throw for scouts on Thursday according to his new representatives at Octagon. He recently fired Scott Boras and is now working out for scouts, so you know he’s itching to get back to work. As I said last week, there’s no downside to signing Soriano if he comes cheap and is willing to accept a setup role. If he helps, great. If he stinks, you cut him and wind up right back where you started.

Right now, the lack of another right-handed reliever is not really hurting the Yankees. It’s an inconvenience more than a major flaw. The middle relief has settled down of late mostly because Shreve has assumed more responsibility, so the Yankees aren’t desperate either. Cashman’s right though. They will need another righty reliever at some point this summer. Maybe Rumbelow can be that guy, maybe it’ll be Soriano. Either way, I don’t expect the five-lefty ‘pen to last forever.

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  • Chip

    Could always try to buy low, I mean real low, on Jon Broxton. He’s not walking people but is giving up a ton of hits

    • BigDavey88

      *envisions him coming in to relieve Eovaldi*

      *cries*

  • WhittakerWalt

    The return of MFIKY! Make it happen, Cash.

  • Andy Phillips Reborn

    I think Andrew Bailey is the wild card here. We haven’t gotten news on him in a while, but if he progresses well enough to be back by the All Star break, he could be a legitimate option.

    • BigDavey88

      It would be cool, but I don’t see it. Ideally he would have been pitching these last few months and shaking off rust coming off surgery.

      Will he be doing this during a possible playoff stretch run? Tough to see it like that. Would be a great in-house solution though.

    • Scott

      Totally forgot he was with the team. Wasn’t he healthy in ST? What happened to him?

      • BigDavey88

        Had to be shut down. Last I knew of him.

        • Farewell Mo and Jeet

          Haven’t heard anything new on him in over a month now since he was shut down

  • kikojones

    So, Cashman basically implied Rogers is not going anywhere at the moment.

    • BigDavey88

      We’re gonna need more gasoline…

    • RetroRob

      Right, I don’t see any chance Rogers goes away today. That would leave Dellin as the only righty. Yet it doesn’t mean he won’t replace Rogers with the new righty. Nova is also coming off the DL. I don’t see anyway that one of Nova or Warren doesn’t end up in the pen, so by process of elimination, Rogers is in trouble. A new righty is coming in, and Nova is being activated. His days are short but yet he has a guaranteed job as of today.

      • kikojones

        Gotcha. I’m thinking Rogers has more job security than we think. After all, aside from being the lone non-Betances righty in the ‘pen, he’s a long man/mop up guy. How many of those are there out there? Or am I mistaken?

  • blake

    theyll figure this out….not worried about it

    • BigDavey88

      Yeah, but what are we gonna panic about?

      • blake

        Default answer: Stephen Drew

        • BigDavey88

          We did it RAB!

  • Jacob Lindgreddarden

    I’d sign Rafy and have him take over the 7th with Wilson. He’s pitched here before and is better than the other options. Warren deserves to start. Esmil has gotta go.

  • MTU

    We have in-house options. Let’s try them 1st.

    • cxz

      The problem with most in house options is, as illustrated by the article, they need someone to lock down the 7th/share it with Wilson, and the guys they have probably shouldn’t be put into high or even moderate leverage situations yet, it’d be asking a lot. Ideally, they find someone with some level of experience/success in the past that they’d be buying low on, like a Soriano or maybe even a Cishek

      • MTU

        I think we must have someone down there ready to step up.
        I like Rumbelow a lot, there are others to try.

  • captainmike

    blue jays are also in on rafael:

    General manager Alex Anthopoulos admitted on Friday that the bullpen is something he wants to upgrade, and that Rafael Soriano is someone that he plans to look into.

  • Greggreen

    idk why the yankees dont consider caps a long man. Hes stretched out, you could cut rogers and call up ramierez no issue, anyone on the 40 man really

    • Sir Didihiro Nakamura

      Cap is a long man, they have 2. Esmil should be gone ASAP

      • Greggreen

        cashman was refering to esmil as the long man and girardi has used caps as a 1 inning reliever so far

        • cxz

          Cap is definitely a long man though, he’s only been used like once since being out of the rotation, he’ll see more innings at some point, right now they’ve just got 2 longmen

  • ÅndyInSunnyDB

    Pinder pitched pretty good this year. I wonder they don’t try him again?

  • Chien Ming The Merciless

    What happened to Chris Martin?

    • Harry Seward

      Beat me to it. He seems like the best option to me.

    • cxz

      He’s on his way back, but he’s really got a limited track record, his first MLB year was last year and it wasn’t exactly fantastic, he was a long shot in a sense to make the pen out of ST to begin with, so we don’t know what we’re getting out of him yet. He could be an answer, but Cashman probably wants a more reliable option

      • Chien Ming The Merciless

        I’m hoping he gets called up. He was with the team early in the season and got some important spots.

        • cxz

          Yeah I definitely think we’ll see him again, he showed early on he should get the chance again. I just think Cashman hasn’t mentioned him in this discussion is because we don’t know what we’re going to get.

          • Chien Ming The Merciless

            makes sense.

    • mitch

      he’s made few appearances in AAA. I think he’ll be called up for Rogers within the next week.

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      15 day DL, then optioned to AAA, I think.

    • Chip

      this year’s Cory Wade.

    • BigDavey88

      Rogers accidentally spilled some gasoline… I’m sorry to break it to you like this, but…

  • Deep Thoughts

    This whole discussion is a red herring from Cashman.

    https://i.imgflip.com/mmd73.jpg

  • RetroRob

    That RH’der could also be a replacement for Rogers now that Capuano can handle. Perhaps he’s just as much saying I need a right hander who can get people out.

  • greg

    David Aardsma is free; just left the Dodgers AAA team.

    • Some Asshole

      He signed with the Braves’ organization.

      • RetroRob

        We were saved.

    • Deep Thoughts

      Correction – it’s spelled DL AAArdsma.

  • Scott

    Speaking of relievers, any word on a Carpenter trade? How much longer does he have on waivers before he is released outright? And if he doesn’t go claimed, can he be assigned to AAA?

  • NJ Pete

    Nova will be back in 10 days. Someone is going to the bullpen and it shouldn’t be Warren. Could be Nova.

    • Aldukes

      I actually kind of want this.

  • dave_8

    Why not Papelbon? They eat some of this yr’s $ — then he has some weird vesting thing for 2016.

    • Scott

      No thanks. First of all, I don’t think he wants to be the 7th inning guy. Second of all he costs a lot and is getting old.

      • dave_8

        That’s why they eat some $ and who knows what the obligation will be for 2016. And he’s having a another good year. He’s only 34 with a max of 1 more yr under contract. He could give the same effect we were dreaming about if Robertson stayed. He might go to the Yankees for a chance to win.

      • ruralbob

        But think of all the intangibles – like the positive clubhouse presence he’d be.

  • Alkaline

    Whenever I see rumbelow I think of captain America and rumlow. Formal petition to call rumbelow crossbones if he gets called up. Rab community, what say ye?

    • MTU

      And my mind goes to Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean w Rum below.

  • argenys

    Mike, any possibility of getting a decent reliever with good upside, who is maybe a year or two away in the minors for Carpenter. Maybe from Miami or a similar team?

    • Deep Thoughts

      I don’t see much on the waiver wire at the moment. Maybe take a flier on 3B Matt Dominguez? 25, makes league minimum, righty pop, bounceback candidate.

  • argenys

    I believe Rumbelow is the next reliever to be called up if Chris Martin isn’t ready yet. Why not use up this month giving MLB tryouts to our minor leaguers before pulling a trigger on a potentially necessary trade/signing?

  • Farewell Mo and Jeet

    It would be nice if Jose Ramirez could stay healthy and effective moving forward. His kind of electric stuff would be a welcome addition from the right side

    • dave_8

      Eh, Cash didn’t mention him or Martin as possible options. That’s kind of damning.

  • Vern Sneaker

    Wouldn’t surprise me at all if Warren’s the 7th inning guy and Rogers is cut when Nova’s ready. Cashman didn’t sound like he’s in a rush.

    • Farewell Mo and Jeet

      Warren is pitching way too well as a starter right now to consider moving to the pen

      • Vern Sneaker

        For sure. I’m not saying I’d like it. But something’s got to give and I’m guessing that’s how they’ll play it.

    • cxz

      Cashman sounds dedicated to Warren in the rotation, he likes him there. That being said, he did also mention workload as a possible factor to moving to the pen at some point, which makes a ton of sense. Either Nova or Warren seems all but destined to be in the pen at some point.

      • Deep Thoughts

        I don’t see Warren in the pen…wait for it…until the ALDS.

        • cxz

          It could happen at any time really, I don’t see it being done tomorrow or in the next few weeks or anything, but it depends on just how many innings Warren logs between now and that point. I don’t see them letting Warren take on much more than 150 innings this year considering it was his first year starting normally.

    • Dick M

      In my book, Warren’s a winner and you leave him alone. Yanking him back and forth is no way to develop him.

    • Aldukes

      Just because Nova is ready doesn’t mean he’s going to come back and be a staple in the rotation. He’s been out a year, I am sure there’s going to be rust to knock off. Having the arm is going to be a plus but I don’t think it’d be smart to rely on Nova as a legitimate force (this year) and in a pennant race.

  • HoopDreams
    • Farewell Mo and Jeet

      He really hasn’t pitched that well this year with an FIP over 4.00 and K/9 and BB/9 trending in the wrong direction.

  • levendis

    So basically Esmil is on the roster because he’s right handed?

    • Deep Thoughts

      And he warms up quickly.

      • Dick M

        And Joe seems to like him.

  • Mike Ehrmantrout

    I don’t understand why Cash would go on the record and show his hand like this, another GM could now take advantage of such remarks. It’s not as drastic as Hal’s constant 189 talk in the media, but still I don’t understand the need to say they “need” anything. A typical “Bubba Crosby is our center fielder” speak would have been preferred.

    • Farewell Mo and Jeet

      It’s not exactly a secret if you look at the pen and you see only 1 righty who can get anyone out

      • Mike Ehrmantrout

        Saying, “our lefties can get both lefies and righties out” or “I’d put our pen against any pen in the league, as it sits now.” would’ve been sufficient.

        • Farewell Mo and Jeet

          Teams are gonna realize the Yankees need a righty for the pen as soon as Cashman calls around asking about RH relievers. There’s nothing gained or lost by him stating the obvious.

          • Mike Ehrmantrout

            I just think there’s no benefit of “stating the obvious”, as he pretends like nothing’s wrong at second-base. That’s the bigger problem and more obvious in my opinion.

            • Farewell Mo and Jeet

              The have needs at both spots. If it’s apparent to posters on a Yankees blog, it’s known by Cashman and every other team in MLB too.

  • Farewell Mo and Jeet

    I’d take a flier on Soriano who wasn’t bad at all for Washington last year.

    • Frittoman626

      He was really bad in the second half, but it happens. I would still sign him as long as he doesn’t cost too much.

    • Mike Ehrmantrout

      I hope they do this as opposed to trade anything remotely useful for a reliever. I wonder if any other teams would be willing to offer MFIKY a closers job from jump.

      • Farewell Mo and Jeet

        Cashman has shown he’s pretty adept at pulling relievers from the scrap heap and getting some value at least in the short run. I don’t think this spot is gonna be that hard to fill though I would have still liked for them to have held onto Robertson as closer so Miller/Betances could have formed a devastating LH/RH set up combo.

  • Dick M

    Warren should stay in the rotation. When Nova comes back we go with 6 guys and a 5 man rotation — each starter gets a pass once every 5 times through the rotation.

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      How is that better than a six-man rotation?

  • Tony Wilson

    Since Nova is coming back from T J surgery why not let him start out in the pen when he’s ready. Use him as long reliever or emergency starter and put him back in the rotation next year.

    • Dick M

      Not sure the up and down of relieving would be good for him. I’d put him in the rotation. See my 5 man rotation using 6 guys idea below.

      • Tony Wilson

        I have been all for Warren going back to the pen but I just don’t see how you can take him out now.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        See my six-man idea from yesterday, as well as Bigdan’s six-man idea, with these same six guys, from three years ago.

        • Dick M

          Great minds think alike.

          We have so many fragile arms.

          Only issue is the roster space. Altho you should be able to get by with a 6 man bullpen.

          Where is Big Dan anyways?

    • Deep Thoughts

      I think that’s where he will, or at least could, start for at least an appearance or two.

      http://www.movingimage.us/images/exhibitions/media/reaction_gif/jeremiah-johnson-nod.gif

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Yeah. We’re completely forgetting the “and it could be Nova or Warren” factor here. Good call.

      • Tony Wilson

        Nova as we all know is a starter but I’m just thinking about what’s best for the team, what would you do with Warren keep him in the rotation or put him back in the pen.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I’d give a six-man rotation a shot for about three turns through and go from there. If someone not named “Ivan Nova” has to go to the bullpen, it’ll be July by then and I’d be fine with Warren going to the pen and helping to straighten things out for the stretch run.

          • Tony Wilson

            Good call for the 6 man rotation thrice and make the decision after the 3rd turn about who goes to the pen.

          • Barzini

            I feel that the potential for injuries in the rotation and the necessity of periodically holding both Pineda and Warren back throughout the res of the season, will combine to solve this problem naturally.

          • Bertin Lefkovic

            Why limit it to three turns? The Yankees want to control PIneda’s and Tanaka’s innings. What better way to do that than go to a six-man rotation. Between the 3rd through 6th pitchers, there would not be a huge dropoff.

        • Farewell Mo and Jeet

          They’re gonna wanna control Nova’s innings very tightly so getting him up and down in the pen while pitching him unpredictable innings doesn’t seem likely coming of TJS

  • The Great Hambino

    Mark Montgomery anyone?

    • Dick M

      God forbid we look internally.

      • mitch

        right because internal candidates never get any opportunities

        • Dick M

          Like the opportunity that Flores and Pirela are getting right now? Like 7-8 at bats a week?

          • mitch

            at least a dozen bullpen guys from the system have been given chances the last few years

            • Dick M

              I wasn’t really limiting my comment to the pen but I’ll play. A dozen guys, really? That’s not what I see. I see guys like Carpenter and Wilson and Shreve and Rogers.

              • mitch

                look closer and you’ll find them. I’m not going to waste my timing listing them.

          • RetroRob

            Pirela is not a prospect.

            Flores needs to show he can first do the MLB job he has right now, which is hit RH’d pitching. He’s not going be given anything. Pirela is not a prospect, Flores is a marginal one.

  • Charlestonchew

    Capuano is totally expendable, and I expect him to traded or released when they finally do find a righty they like. With Nova on the verge and Mitchell pitching well in AAA, the Yankees have enough insurance to feel comfortable letting Capuano go.

    But then again this is the Yankees and they tend to stubbornly hold onto veterans even when they have clearly lost it.

  • Colossal

    The answer is Mark “SnapDragon” Montgomery. Give him a chance already!
    http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?sid=milb&player_id=605384#/career/R/pitching/2015/ALL

    His fastball velocity is back and he has the results to warrant at least an appearance in the majors to see if he can stick. And if can stick he can be just as good as former all star yankee reliever Mark Melancon.

    • The Great Hambino

      My thoughts exactly. The kid is ready and he’s getting older, he’s already 25.

    • n0exit

      Didn’t he just get demoted from aaa.

      • Colossal

        He got demoted after giving up ZERO runs in AAA. I don’t understand.

  • Dick M

    Prolly makes sense to trade one of the OF prospects with redundant skill sets.

    • Greggreen

      not for a reliever

      • Dick M

        There’s not room at the inn for all of Mason/Slade/Cave/Flores. At some point, do you try to get some value for them?

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Yes, you do.

          You could very much sell me on Austin or Flores for the Clippard rental right now, if you wish.

          • Greggreen

            flores maybe. I doubt Austin has much value right now

            • Robinson Tilapia

              Fine. CHRIS YOUNG.

              #previousthreadtrolling

              • Greggreen

                chris young for clippard then we all write billy a hand written thank you card

          • HoopDreams

            Shit, Austin for Clippard? that’s a no brainer.

            • Aldukes

              Beane hangs up IMO.

              • Greggreen

                thats more than your opinion thats common sense

                • Robinson Tilapia

                  Maybe I was looking at an older picture of Tyler Austin there. :/

                • Aldukes

                  haha.. just trying to be polite.

          • Bertin Lefkovic

            Do you really think that the Yankees could get Clippard for just Austin or Flores?

            My thinking is that the Yankees trade Carpenter for Cishek right now, hopefully get a month of quality 7th inning appearances out of him, and then package him with Flores, Pirela, and a minor league starting pitcher not named Clarkin or Severino. Would including Nova in this deal be an overpay, underpay, or just a mismatch?

        • Greggreen

          yes but you package these type of guys for a starting position player or a starter not a reliever. We need a Kerry wood type of trade.

  • yanksgoyanks

    If the Padres keep losing could we by any chance move Judge for Kimbrel?

    • n0exit

      Yes I think this is happening.

      • Greggreen

        pass. judge is the kind of guy you package in a deal for an everyday play or a starting pitcher. not a closer. especially when we already have 2 studs in the pen. we need a good setup man, not an elite closer

    • Aldukes

      I love Kimbrel but for Judge? I don’t know.. I rather trade Judge as part of a package for an everyday player or a starting pitcher.

      • Greggreen

        this

    • cxz

      Bad trade idea of the day! Grats

      • yanksgoyanks

        Im just assuming thats what they would want for an elite closer. How about Bird for Clippard then?

        • Robinson Tilapia

          We’ll just wait and talk you down to Austin Romine for a bag of Qualls.

          • vicki

            bag of qualls. good stuff.

        • cxz

          It’s a bad trade in part because we don’t need an elite closer, we just need a solid option to pair with Wilson in the 7th. No need to go overboard or anything

        • Greggreen

          youre aiming too high. We dont need a closer. We just need a solid right handed reliever.

        • Aldukes

          Whether or not Cashman was lying or not about Bird being the best overall hitter in the organization is questionable but if they do feel that way.. I think Cashman would want to add Zobrist and we would add something else.. and even then, not sure if that would be able to get it done.. ANDD i agree with the above comments about aiming too high for a guy like Clippard.. not sure we need a top flight reliever.

          • Bertin Lefkovic

            I agree. I think that it is possible to get Steve Cishek from the Marlins for Carpenter. Cishek has been terrible this season and is expensive. Carpenter is cheap and has a good track record against the NL East.

            If Cishek were to pitch well in a 7th inning role for the Yankees for a month, they could package him in a deal to get Clippard and Zobrist without having to give up Bird. Depending on how Flores plays between now and when Ellsbury comes back, it could be possible to get Clippard and Zobrist for Cishek, Pirela, Flores, and maybe a starting pitcher not named Clarkin or Severino.

            • Aldukes

              Yeah in theory it sounds nice but don’t think we could land Zobrist and Clippard for some scrap heap. I’m not entirely driven to give up any of the top prospects yet (as in this year) unless it’s for equal value. I’m definitely curious to see what Cashman does or doesn’t do at the deadline

    • BigDavey88

      BEEP BEEP BEEP

      Oh, sorry. It seems my satire meter is acting up again.

    • Some Asshole

      The Padres are 29-29 and only 3 1/2 games out of first. I would make sweet love to Kabak’s hat, then eat it, if they were giving up this early.

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      Why would either team do that? It would cause more problems for the Yankees than it would solve and if left up to a bidding war between teams that are looking for a closer for the stretch run and beyond, there will be teams willing to give up more than that for Kimbrel. I wouldn’t package Judge to get Hamels. I sure as hell am not going to give him up for Kimbrel. I would only package Judge in a massive deal to get someone like Harper, Stanton, or Trout.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I’d certainly consider internals first here, and I certainly have a personal bias towards Pinder and Rumbelow here, before looking elsewhere…..although I’ve worse ideas than a trade involving an excess lefty and/or some of our minor league OF logjam-which-may-not-be-a-logjam for a quality righty, and/or a MFIKY reunion flyer.

    I see the Mark Montgomery Tiger Beat Fan Club has begun to show up. Clockwork.

    • Some Asshole

      Only the retro Tiger Beats. Nothing beats teen love for the Osmonds.

      http://www.sunshineday.com/neugast/gallery/Resources/tb7a.jpeg

      • Bertin Lefkovic
        • Some Asshole

          You are a god for finding this. Best thing all day. And today was a pretty good day.

          • Bertin Lefkovic

            Never even would have thought about it without your inspiration, but whenever I hear or read the words tiger beat, it is the first thing that pops into my head. Coming of age during the 80s was such a blessing in so many ways… And yet a curse in some others. Happy to have made your day. I enjoyed finding this as well.

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      I’m new here and not up on all of the acronyms. MFIKY?

  • Barzini

    I really think that one of Pinder/Rumbelow/Ramirez can fill this role as the season moves along. Preferably Ramirez and his upside.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      As do I, and this is with my being supremely burnt on Jose Ramirez.

      • Greggreen

        jose has 11 career innings in the majors, i think with his stuff he should get more of a shot. hes closing in AAA isnt he? maybe that means hes ready for high leverage

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I’ll admit an unfair bias against guys who come up to the majors and don’t throw strikes on, like, second one, which is why I HATED Mark Melancon as a Yankee.

          I also am really not sold on Ramirez’s durability at all, plus a little bit of “shiny new toy syndrome” with the other guys.

          • vicki

            i know what you mean, but ramirez was once described as a stike-thrower. and that fastball.

            i’m fully in his corner. dude needs a nickname.

            • Barzini

              Car RamRod..Just to need to find a Rodriguez(it shouldn’t be very hard)

            • Barzini

              Car RamRod..Just to need to find a Rodriguez(it shouldn’t be very hard)

            • Greggreen

              im always in big favor of any pitchers whos got a live arm and a nasty changeup. Limits the odds of them having a platoon split

            • Dick M

              Ram-rod?

          • vicki

            i know what you mean, but ramirez was once described as a stike-thrower. and that fastball.

            i’m fully in his corner. dude needs a nickname.

    • I am Brett Godner

      Burawa Burawa Burawa

      • Barzini

        not just yet

        • I am Brett Godner

          Probably right. I worry about minor leaguers with filthy stuff and control issues because I always feel like they take advantage of AAA hitters but big leaguers have better approaches at the plate and box the rooks into a corner and a thus a meatball. That said Burawa is that combo of filthy K stuff and groundballs that people like in Lindgren and Lindgren had the same concerns and is doing OK with kid gloves anyway. Love to see a Burawa/Lindgren middle inning attack. It could be stupid awesome.

          • Barzini

            He was called up to Scranton in the second half last year and has done pretty well for himself. Personally, I’d like to see him do a little bit more at that level but his biggest problem is that those other 3 guys have just done more than he has and are just as capable stuffwise. Another victim of the numbers game – at least for now.

          • Barzini

            He was called up to Scranton in the second half last year and has done pretty well for himself. Personally, I’d like to see him do a little bit more at that level but his biggest problem is that those other 3 guys have just done more than he has and are just as capable stuffwise. Another victim of the numbers game – at least for now.

  • LarryM Fl

    If the Yanks are hesitant with a AAA relief call up. Does it make any sense to keep sending Rogers to xuck everything up. Rogers is so unreliable. Give the kids a shot. It can not be any worse!

    • ronald frushon

      YOU ARE EXCTLY CORRECT.

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      its just a matter of time..

  • Dick M

    Cash is setting us up for the rental. He (only) plays well in that space.

    • mitch

      wrong again. The bullpen is filled with low cost guys under team control for multiple years

      • Dick M

        It is?

        • mitch

          I assume you’re trolling but i’ll answer anyway. Yes, accumulating cheap bullpen depth has been one of Cashman’s strengths recently

          • Dick M

            You mean you don’t get agita in the 7th inning every night?

            • mitch

              uh no. They have the best closer-setup man combo in the league and bullpen depth that rivals just about any team. How many teams have elite relievers in middle relief?

              • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

                The depth is not what we thought it would be going into the season. You could say they are only 4 deep as of now with Lindgren, Capuano and Rogers all replaceable.

                • Some Asshole

                  Which, let’s face it, is still better than most clubs out there.

                  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

                    True, but it will get even better.

          • Dick M

            You mean you don’t get agita in the 7th inning every night?

  • cxz

    http://i1.wp.com/www.dailycal.org/assets/uploads/2014/01/pacing.gif?resize=500%2C226 You guys are talking about the bullpen and I’m just here like “Is it draft time yet? Is it draft time yet? Damn it, hurry up 7’O Clock”

    • I am Brett Godner

      Will that make the bad trade proposals stop? If so Ill start pacing too.

      • cxz

        Unfortunately, bad trade proposals are forever

        • I am Brett Godner

          Do go to toy stores and tell little kids there is no Santa in your spare time too?

          • Some Asshole

            I don’t have the time in between kicking puppies in the throat, switching out the walk and don’t walk sounds for the hearing impaired, and putting absurdly counterfeit bills in beggars’ cups.

  • Barzini

    It will be interesting how Shreve holds up through the summer, but I have to think that, going forward, he is the de facto “7th inning guy” until something arises.

    • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

      Right now it’s Wilson.

  • Chip

    Phillies get: Connor Spence and Mark Montgomery

    Yankees get: Jonathan Papelbon, Chase Utley and a whole lotta money.

    • Kenthadley

      Don’t think Papelbon has the ego to become a 7th inning guy, especially since he’ll be a free agent after this year.

      • Chip

        Yeah, of all the reasons that trade’s not happening I don’t think that’s the biggest but you’re right.

    • Kenthadley

      Don’t think Papelbon has the ego to become a 7th inning guy, especially since he’ll be a free agent after this year.

    • Austinmac

      Utley has been Drew bad this year(rather than drawn badly). :)

      • vicki

        by war, worse.

      • Some Asshole

        Man, I wouldn’t want to be the asshole that drafted him in fantasy and suffered through his .098 start.

    • I am Brett Godner

      Yeah. All of the Phillies garbage. That would be awesome.

      • dave_8

        Papelbon isn’t garbage by a long shot.

        • I am Brett Godner

          No matter how well he is pitching Papelbon will always be garbage.

          • dave_8

            Dont you wanna win?

            • I am Brett Godner

              Papelbon is in the same category as Ortiz in my mind. I would almost rather lose a few games then see him in pinstripes. That said I do not see Papelbon and his turd sniffing face accepting a role player part in the pen without pouting. Dudes a douche and douches have a way of not helping you win.

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      I have probably been the biggest advocate for acquiring Papelbon on this site, but I just don’t see the point in going in that direction anymore, especially knowing how unhappy Papelbon would be with a 7th inning role. The only way that he would waive his NTC is if his 2016 option is guaranteed and there is no way that the Phillies are going to eat that much cash unless they are getting a major prospect haul.

      It would be much easier to try to get Steve Cishek from the Marlins. Considering how bad he has been this year for them, I think that they would dump his contract in return for Carpenter, who is much cheaper and has pitched well in the NL East.

  • Chip

    Phillies get: Connor Spence and Mark Montgomery

    Yankees get: Jonathan Papelbon, Chase Utley and a whole lotta money.

  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

    Either way, I don’t expect the five-lefty ‘pen to last forever. – See more at: http://riveraveblues.com/2015/06/cashman-need-find-right-handed-arm-bullpen-121249/#disqus_thread

    ================================
    It could end tmorrow if they bring Ryan up. Lindgren could go.

    • Austinmac

      I would guess they will sound down Pirela when the inevitable Ryan return happens. They hate to reduce the number of bullpen guys, and what would Pirela do? Watch Ryan flail at the plate, I suppose.

      • I am Brett Godner

        It might entertain him and build confidence until he realizes that hes not even good enough to steal ABs from Ryan and then he would lose confidence and feel sad. Like old yeller (spoiler alert) getting shot at the end kind of sad.

      • ronald frushon

        YOU ARE RIGHT, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY THINK IT IS A BIG DEAL THAT RYAN IS DUE TO COME BACK,THE MAN COULD NOT HIT OFF A TEE.

      • Bertin Lefkovic

        They could start Ryan at SS and Pirela at 2B against LHPs. I think that they should run with 4 MIs until Nova is ready to return and hopefully by then, there would be enough data to support sending Pirela back to AAA or DFAing Ryan.

    • I am Brett Godner

      Thats just gross.

  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

    Either way, I don’t expect the five-lefty ‘pen to last forever. – See more at: http://riveraveblues.com/2015/06/cashman-need-find-right-handed-arm-bullpen-121249/#disqus_thread

    ================================
    It could end tmorrow if they bring Ryan up. Lindgren could go.

  • The Original Drew

    I think RH relief pitcher is 3rd aside form SP depth and a 2B on the Yankees needs right now. Soriano might be a fit but I don’t think its necessary to get into a bidding war for him.

    • Austinmac

      I agree on the three priorities. I’m not sure the Yankees do.

    • Farewell Mo and Jeet

      Soriano is unsigned and it’s more than a third of the way through the season. I doubt there will be much of a bidding war for him at this point.

      • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

        the jays are looking for a bullpen guy and talk is that they are interested in Soriano. Problem is he might be too pricey and it would obviously be a rental. question is whether Soriano is interested in coming to Toronto

  • Captain Clutch

    So after a whole 18 innings the yanks decided that Carpenter is one of those players who can’t play in NY?! Wow that was a big sample size, I know that he was bad but that is ridiculous.

    • Asher Dratel

      For a guy whose job is to pitch like one inning at a time, and given that all 18 of his appearances were pretty much disasters, I think they made the right call. Nobody needs two Esmils.

    • I am Brett Godner

      What the yanks DFAed Carpy? That is breaking news. Seriously Carpy was on the shelf and we wondered why (myself included) and then got innings and was Crappy and then they DFAed him sooner than seemed necessary. Sure feels like they knew something more than our internet pontificating asses.

    • cxz

      He didn’t do his job a single time he was called upon, and inning bridging relievers usually aren’t the type of player a team who’s trying to win holds onto forever if they’re struggling. This just wasn’t the time or place for him.

      • Captain Clutch

        So why is Esmil still here?! Managers pet? He has stunk for much more time than Carpenter has.

        • I am Brett Godner

          Thats a fair question, but by now we all know Joe lurves him some lousy long men in his pen. If they got rid of Esmil they would just have to replace him with Huff part 3 or find out which car wash Meat Tray is working at these days. Seriously I would love to see Esmil go. Let Cappy be the meat tray this year.

        • cxz

          Actually, as much as we hate on Rogers, there have been at least 2 times I remember him doing SOMETHING of worth. Don’t get me wrong, he’s awful, but those 2 times are more than Carpenter, the guy literally gave us nothing. Also, we have to remember that Rogers has zero value being DFA’d, Carpenter is likely to bring at least something back, even if it’s just salary relief or a AAAA type or piece. Rogers should be gone too for sure, but Rogers sucking doesn’t make DFAing Carpenter any worse of a decision.

        • Still Stucky

          He’s the use and abuse guy.

          He tried to get 3 outs with a 6 run lead with him. Let’s not mistake that for something it wasn’t.

          He’s also the guy who will pitch 3-4 innings in a 11-1 Yankee loss or 4 innings in an extra inning game.

          Guys like that serve a function and you’re not going to do that to a arm with high upside.

    • ronald frushon

      WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT .NOT NE OF HIS APPEARANCES DID HE GET US OUT OF THE INNING. .THE AL EAST STANDINGS ARE TOO CLOSE AND WILL BE ALL YEAR,CANNOT AFFORD TO BLOW GAMES AS CARPENTER DID..

      • Some Asshole

        I hope you purchased the extended warranty on your keyboard.

    • ronald frushon

      WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT .NOT NE OF HIS APPEARANCES DID HE GET US OUT OF THE INNING. .THE AL EAST STANDINGS ARE TOO CLOSE AND WILL BE ALL YEAR,CANNOT AFFORD TO BLOW GAMES AS CARPENTER DID..

  • Captain Clutch

    So after a whole 18 innings the yanks decided that Carpenter is one of those players who can’t play in NY?! Wow that was a big sample size, I know that he was bad but that is ridiculous.

  • Tony Wilson

    Here is my suggestion for a R H reliever: If Nova comes back strong my rotation would be Tanaka, Pineda, Warren, Sabathia and Nova. Since Eovaldi rarely goes 6 innings put that “big arm” in the pen and let him utilize that fast ball for 2 or 3 innings. A pen of Shreve, Eovaldi, Wilson, Lindgren and Capuano in front of the dynamic duo seems like a good one to me.

    • Barzini

      It would be fun to watch Eovaldi hit 115mph

      • Tony Wilson

        I know a lot of people will think that’s a crazy idea but I think it would benefit and better the team which I think is what we all want. I think that arm in the pen would be dynamic.

        • Barzini

          Yeah it’s just not worth potentially screwing up Eovaldi. And, frankly, by the time Nova gets back, Eovaldi will still be one of at least their 6 best starters, and you need about 7 at all times.

          • Tony Wilson

            I don’t disagree with your premise but I look at the fact that he has gone 6+ only 4 times this year as opposed to 8 for CC and with that “big arm” CC has more K’s and quality starts. CC gets killed here and has pitched better to me than Eovaldi. Warren definitely shouldn’t come out of the rotation so Eovaldi is the choice I would make but respect your point and realize he will be staying in the rotation.

            • Barzini

              There are just so many potential natural occurrences(especially with this rotation) that will keep Eo in there. That, and the fact that they’re going to have back off PIneda and Warren periodically throughout the rest of season.

              Also, CC is my homeboy.

              • Tony Wilson

                I know he is 3-7 but with run support he could be 6-6 and he gives length unlike Eovaldi. He’s had 3 bad starts out of 12 so I don’t get the talk as if he’s the worst pitcher ever, it’s comical!

            • JimK

              I fully expect to announce the signing of Hiroki any day now, as the answer to their problems.

              • Tony Wilson

                Lol

        • I am Brett Godner

          Honestly I think Captain Eo would have some of the same issues in the pen that he does starting. Not worth the experiment for him IMO and I like giving young SPers a little bullpen time for the experience.

        • I am Brett Godner

          Honestly I think Captain Eo would have some of the same issues in the pen that he does starting. Not worth the experiment for him IMO and I like giving young SPers a little bullpen time for the experience.

        • I am Brett Godner

          Honestly I think Captain Eo would have some of the same issues in the pen that he does starting. Not worth the experiment for him IMO and I like giving young SPers a little bullpen time for the experience.

      • Tony Wilson

        I know a lot of people will think that’s a crazy idea but I think it would benefit and better the team which I think is what we all want. I think that arm in the pen would be dynamic.

    • cxz

      I dont see Eovaldi being moved to the pen, and I don’t want him to be moved either honestly. Especially considering he’s finally figuring out that Splitter/Forkball/whatever the heck it is, I think it’d be a mistake to take him out of the rotation, a part of his value comes from the fact that he’s capable of giving a ton of innings. Sure, it’d be fun to get extra heat on the FB and all, and he may even do well in that role, but NY made that trade because they seem him being a valuable rotation arm in the long run

      • Tony Wilson

        He hasn’t given innings.

        • cxz

          He hasn’t this year, but just last year he logged almost 200 innings. He’s capable of being an innings eater presently, with the upside of a whole lot more. I just think taking him out of the rotation, where his long term hopes lie, while he’s finally figuring out a secondary pitch to work well for him, would be the wrong thing to do.

    • Still Stucky

      Eovaldi is 3 years younger than Nova, they’ve both made nearly an identical # of starts in the majors and they’re stats are strikingly similar in key areas.

      Eovaldi is still eovolving.

      This is why we can’t have nice things.

      We all talk big games about “developing” players but we want them fully formed right away.

      • JimK

        Which means he is also almost 3 years younger than Warren too; the question is how do either Nova and Warren fit into their long term plans, and how will it guide their decisions on usage for both pitchers.

    • mbovasso

      With talk like Eovaldi to the pen is this Joba 2.0?

    • mbovasso

      With talk like Eovaldi to the pen is this Joba 2.0?

    • mbovasso

      With talk like Eovaldi to the pen is this Joba 2.0?

  • Tony Wilson

    Here is my suggestion for a R H reliever: If Nova comes back strong my rotation would be Tanaka, Pineda, Warren, Sabathia and Nova. Since Eovaldi rarely goes 6 innings put that “big arm” in the pen and let him utilize that fast ball for 2 or 3 innings. A pen of Shreve, Eovaldi, Wilson, Lindgren and Capuano in front of the dynamic duo seems like a good one to me.

  • ronald frushon

    I THINK THE PERFECT MAN FOR A LONG RIGHT HAND RELIEF PITCHER WOULD BE EOVALDI,FORGET THE 6 MAN ROTATION. WE CAN DO THIS AS SOON AS NOVA GETS BACK.

    • I am Brett Godner

      Its wrong, but its in all caps so I find the argument compelling. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

    • TIME WILL TELL

      No one even know how Nova is going to pitch.

    • TIME WILL TELL

      No one even know how Nova is going to pitch.

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      I would prefer 5-7 innings of Eovaldi every sixth day than however many relief innings he would get every week.

  • ronald frushon

    I THINK THE PERFECT MAN FOR A LONG RIGHT HAND RELIEF PITCHER WOULD BE EOVALDI,FORGET THE 6 MAN ROTATION. WE CAN DO THIS AS SOON AS NOVA GETS BACK.

  • ronald frushon

    I THINK THE PERFECT MAN FOR A LONG RIGHT HAND RELIEF PITCHER WOULD BE EOVALDI,FORGET THE 6 MAN ROTATION. WE CAN DO THIS AS SOON AS NOVA GETS BACK.

  • Barzini

    Welp…Ashe Russel’s shirt is the worst thing I’ve ever seen.

  • bernbabybern

    Soriano is out there for just money…

  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

    Time’s running out…..

  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

    Yogi only needs about 15,000 votes before midnight.
    Piece of cake…..

  • tomingeorgia

    When does the draft actually start?

  • Robert Lucarelli

    Try pinder and or burawa before cash deals for a righty I hope

    • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

      I Don’t know about Pinder. He’s been hot and cold for the Yankees when he’s been called up. didn’t have a very good ST as I remember. Not sure about Burawa either but haven’t seen him pitch much. Are they both righties?

      • Robert Lucarelli

        Yes they’re both righties….I think they should try an in house solution before dealing for anything

  • tate14

    I honestly don’t know the solution. Whether Nova, Eovaldi or Warren go to the pen, is anybody’s guess. I just hope they keep Lindgren up with the big club. He’s a keeper. Shed themselves of Rogers or Capuano. They’ve already indicated a certain amount of confidence in Lindgren, when they kept him and cut Carpenter. Be wasting his time at AAA. Already tore it up.

  • Bertin Lefkovic

    Is Chris Martin no longer on the 40-man roster? Seems like sending down Lindgren and bringing him up is the simplest solution to this problem. I would also DFA Rogers when Brendan Ryan is ready to return and go with 4 MIs until Nova is ready to return. Hopefully, Pirela or Ryan would have enough of an opportunity to do enough in the interim to make the decision about which one to DFA or send down easy.

  • Bertin Lefkovic

    Carpenter to the Marlins for Cishek. DFA Rogers.

  • Bertin Lefkovic

    Just did some basic math. If Nova is ready to return on June 30, there are 20 games between now and then and then 85 games from then until the end of the season. Divide 20 by 5 and 85 by 6 and there would be approximately 18 starts remaining for the five starters currently in the rotation and 15 more for Nova. Warren already has 64 innings under his belt. If he averages 5 1/3 innings per start, he would finish the regular season with 160 innings. Seems just about right to me.