Dec
08

Pavano on Burnett: ‘He has the stuff to pitch there’

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Nothing big, but (again) on Rosenthal’s meetings blog, he makes a note on the Yankees and A.J. Burnett. Seems that the free agent talked to his former teammate Carl Pavano about pitching in the Big Apple. Surprisingly, Pavano didn’t steer him away, though this sounds like more speculation than anything.

Categories : Asides, Minors

38 Comments»

  1. steve (different one) says:

    countdown until first post implying that Burnett will also spend 90% of his time in NY on the DL in 3….2……1

  2. UWS says:

    Well, if that’s not a ringing endorsement, I don’t know what is.

    • Chris C. says:

      BURNETT: Carl, what’s up? Listen, my agent and I have this crazy intuition that the Yankees may throw tons of money our way once they realize Sabathia aint coming. So I was wondering……….what’s it like to pitch in the big apple?

      PAVANO: Bro, it’s peaches and cream. I made over 40 mill in 4 years, and all I had to do was go 9-8 with a 5.30 ERA. I didn’t even toss 200 innings! And here’s the best part……..when I took the mound, the fans didn’t expect anything from me! Need I say more?

      BURNETT: Really? Wow. Okay……..then how’d you do AFTER your first season in pinstripes?

  3. A.D. says:

    Pavano and his 26 career Yankee starts over 4 years are a great endorsement on knowing about playing in NYC.

    • Chris C. says:

      Yeah, and for about 90% of those starts, that famous “NY Expectation” level was nonexistent.

    • Chris C. says:

      You know what’s even funnier? There’s a couple million fans in New York who by website, blog, or talk show will swear to you which pitchers will or won’t be successful in NY…………………………..but Carl Pavano is the nutty opinion???

  4. A Responsible Yankee Fan says:

    Lets all just admit we don’t really know what Burnett would do in pinstripes, just as we had no idea what Pavano would do when we signed him….

    • whozat says:

      No one has any idea what any player would really do anywhere.

      All we can do is try to project the future based on the past, and based on things like career arcs of comparable players, injury history, likelihood of recurrence of particular injuries, etc.

      I didn’t think pavano would spend so much time on the DL. Burnett’s injury history leads us to believe that he WILL spend lots of time on the DL, and that he’ll walk a lot of people when he’s not on the DL.

      In short…he’ll probably average 140-160 innings a season, and sometimes be spectacular and sometimes be mediocre. Not that ace starter that’ll put you on his back that people seem to think he can/will be.

  5. E-ROC says:

    I won’t take Pavano’s word for it, nor do I want to experience whether Burnett has the ‘stuff’ or not.

    • Mike Pop says:

      Who cares what he says.. Hes a memory, a bad one at that

    • Chris C. says:

      Well, okay.
      I like making fun of Pavano as much as the next guy, but all kidding aside……….I do feel he may have an idea of what kind of temperment a pitcher needs to be successful here. The guy’s entire stay here was obviously marred by injuries, but that doesn’t make him an idiot.

      Because believe it or not, the guy knows pitching, and the guy knows AJ Burnett alot better than Davidoff, or O’Brien, or Heyman, or Sherman, Rosenthal, Gammons, Stark, Olney, or any of the other hacks and nerds who like to believe they have “inside sources” and “info on good authority”.

      • A.D. says:

        But Pavano wasn’t successful, nor was he with the team very much, therefore it would be hard for him to actually know what it takes to be successful, he can speculate and guess on his personal small sample size, but since he hasn’t done it he cannot speak from experience

        • However, if any big league pitchers want to know what it’s like to pitch in the Yankees Tampa rehab facility, Pavano’s your man.

        • Chris C. says:

          “But Pavano wasn’t successful, nor was he with the team very much, therefore it would be hard for him to actually know what it takes to be successfu…….”

          No, it wouldn’t.
          And how do you know the amount of time Pavano associated with the players? I read somewhere that he and Pettitte were very close this year.
          Pavano wasn’t a flop because of his pitching. He was a flop because of his injuries. He’s a major league pitcher, and when healthy, a very good one. I don’t want to hear about how an All-Star calibre when healthy major league pitcher doesn’t know what it takes to be successful.

        • Chris C. says:

          “but since he hasn’t done it he cannot speak from experience”

          HOLY SMOKES! And to think our GM is the guy out there deciding who can and can’t hack it from the mound as a pitcher……..a GM who has never tossed a single inning in the majors!

  6. Ivan says:

    Why im not surprise.

  7. Mike Pop says:

    Rumor City ! My god

  8. Double-J says:

    Can someone explain to me how Carl Pavano would even know what it’s like to pitch in New York when that’s probably what he spent the least amount of time doing in his duration here?

    • Chris C. says:

      That doesn’t mean he doesn’t know the kind of person you need to be in order to have success here. He’d certainly gotten to know Pettitte and Mussina very well, so he has a hint into the mindset you need.

      This is starting to sound like the good ol’ “how can he be a good manager when he stunk as a player” kind of bullshit we unbeleivably still hear on occasion.

  9. steve (different one) says:

    Pavano may not know what it’s like to pitch in NY, but he does know what it’s like to experience be a NY media whipping-boy. and Pavano was basically a worst-case scenario.

    Pavano may have told Burnett “my 4 years were as disastrous as any pitcher could have, and it still wasn’t so bad. NY wants to love you, and if you pitch well, it’s the greatest place in the world.”

    crazy?

    • Chris C. says:

      Yeah, that’s a pretty good take on it.

      But I will say this……..Pavano being non-existent for about 3 1/2 of those years are pretty much what saved him from the direct hits.
      If Pavano didn’t mind the press or internet criticism, then he pretty much lived a charmed life since he arrived.

      By the time he got healthy, the spotlight was gone!

    • Chris C. says:

      Also, don’t forget…….Pavano comes from Conneticut, and a family of Yankee fans no less.

      It’s not like he’s some bumkin from Mississippi who was bowled over by the media or bright lights.

  10. Bo says:

    I was wondering how many “pavano never pitched in ny” jokes we’d get from this

    over under on 100

  11. jsbrendog says:

    “after the phone interview, pavano told burnett he was exhausted from talking about pitching in ny and needed to go take a nap in hisjammies”

    for diamond cutters,
    I’m peter gammons

  12. Baseballnation says:

    The fact that Pavano even talked to Burnett about New York scares me to the point that Burnett’s is as of right now on the “wait to see him break down watch.” Pavano is just black majic

  13. jad says:

    This is the first time in 4 years that Pavano is healthy. He can be signed cheap so it stands to reason that he will go to Florida or some such place and win 17 games. Why would the Yanks invest a few million after all this patience when they blew that many times tover. He would be great insurance to have during a season that will in all liklihood have three pitchers on the dl or innings limited. Forget Burnett, you can have Pavano for a nickel on the dollar, and when he pitched last year for the most part, he wasn’t half bad. More arm strenght back this year!

  14. Brad K says:

    Speaking of Carla has any one heard where he might be going? Has any team shown any interest in him at all?

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