Carl heads to Cleveland


The Cleveland Indians landed themselves a lemon today as they are the lucky winners of the Carl Pavano Sweepstakes. Mark Shapiro has signed the oft-injured 32-year-old to a one-year, $1.5-million deal with incentives. Pavano will be warmly remembered in New York for his grit and determination as he totaled his Porsche while on rehab made 26 starts over four years, earning per Yankee start the same $1.5 million he will make over the course of the entire 2009 season.

On another Pavano note, a few weeks ago, Ken Davidoff noted that it took the Yanks “10 minutes to realize what a fraud [Pavano] was” when he joined the team in 2005. That tidbit piqued my curiosity in December, and I hope one day we’ll get the full story on Carl Pavano. He certainly took the Yanks for a $40-million ride over the last four seasons.

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League


  1. WhizzoTheWize says:

    Bernie Maddoff is the only mega-millions con artist in the world.

    The agent should be frisked for Cleveland’s silverware before he’s allowed to leave the city.

  2. UWS says:

    Carl Pavano: 2009 Comeback Player of the Year.

    You just watch. He’ll win it out of spite.

    • Ben K. says:

      The only reason that’s not a stretch is because he sucked so hard or has been injured for four years now.

    • dan says:

      Chris Carpenter out of the ‘pen in the NL. If Swisher does well this year he could have a shot at it, although he might not deserve it.

    • Ryan S. says:

      I have that same exact fear.

    • Carl Pavano: 2009 Comeback Player of the Year.

      Seeing as how Chad Pennington is the 2008 NFL Comeback Player of the Year, and they both suck balls, I’d find this perfectly acceptable.

      • A.D. says:

        Carl Pavano…2nd in Cy Young voting?

      • Mike A. says:

        Chad Pennington doesn’t suck, he just throws like a girl.

        • Chad Pennington is like A.J. Burnett without the dominant fastball, tantalizing potential, and bizarre ability to step it up and beat the best teams.

          In other words, he’s constantly hurt, has a spotty track record and leaves you wondering how he’s actually not as craptastic as his fundamentals would lead you to believe he should be and he’s wildly overrated BUT has zero upside and has an uncanny ability to choke on it in the worst possible moment and give you one of the worst games you’ve ever seen when the stage is biggest and brightest.

          Having Chad Pennington on your team is fine, if you’re comfortable with beating every bad team you play every year and then blowing up in the first round of the playoffs, followed by a devastating injury that wrecks your subsequent season.

  3. Mike Pop says:

    He will probably win 10 games and go 7 innings of 2 run ball against us once or twice this season. Maybe even pitch a crazy playoff game if they make it.

  4. whozat says:

    In fairness, Davidoff said it took “everyone” 10 minutes to realize Carl was a fraud. Who’s he talking about? The media? The fans? Or actually the Yankees’ players and staff?

    I could certainly see him using it hyperbolically in the first sense…that “all the savvy reporters” knew he was soft and useless, and aren’t they so smart for seeing it.

  5. A.D. says:

    Nice pick-up for the Indians

    • Ben K. says:

      Nice is not really a word I’d use to describe the not-very-good, never-been-very-good Carl Pavano. It’s a low risk, medium reward pick-up by a team trying to throw whatever they can against the proverbial wall in the hopes that something will stick.

  6. ChrisS says:

    At the time I thought that Pavano was a good pick up, more so than Wright. I don’t think I ever anticipated him winning a cy young or anything, but I thought he’d be a nice productive pitcher for four years.

    Yikes was that ever a bad contract in retrospect.

  7. pat says:

    new t shirt idea;
    RIver Avenue Blues:
    you’re not paying us less than pavano.

  8. CB says:

    Not a terrible move by the Indians. For that price, why not?

  9. Joey H says:

    Well now we get to crush his brains in maybe a couple times a year. I hope at the stadium just to deafen him with the Boo’s

    • Jay CT says:

      I bet this guy never pitches in Yankee Stadium again. He was afraid to pitch here when he was on the fricken’ team, imagine him pitching here after burning the shit out of them.

  10. VO says:

    Im sure Pavano will always be remembered in New York for his bravery in spring training when he ‘injured his buttocks’.

  11. Ace says:

    Cashman and Girardi both said that their intention right now – if Pettitte does not return – is to have a spring training competition among Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Alfredo Aceves, Phil Coke (whom the Yanks asked to come to camp as a starter, not a reliever) and veteran Jason Johnson (recently signed to a minor league contract).

    I like that Phil Coke is being asked to prepare to start.

  12. Jay CT says:

    I can’t believe he is only 32. It seems that he has been around FOREVER, since he was first talked about in the Pedro trade. I never wish anyone harm, and I think its a good move for the Indians (who are going to be tough this season), but I really do not want to see good things in baseball happen to this guy ever again.

  13. A.D. says:

    Would be awesome if he only makes 1 start for the indians, thus keeping the 1.5M per start alive

  14. Phil McCracken says:

    What did they see in Spring Training that made them decide that he was a fraud? Ken doesn’t elaborate.

  15. Joey H says:

    I’m watching bits of Tex today. He seems real enthusiastic. I love the “Pitchers will hate facing our line up and hitters will hate facing our pitching” I like the way this guy carries himself.

  16. Jay CT says:

    Mike (or anyone who might know)- Totally off subject, and I know this is not going to happen, but just as a random question- If Abreu were to re-sign with the Yanks for like 1 yr, 8 million in order to test free agency again next year, would he qualify as a type A or type B again, or does that not count to one year guys. Also, if arbitration were to be offered and accepted, would the Yanks be able to offer say 8.5 on a one year, or would his side be able to ask for 16 million and possibly get it? I don’t know the rules about this.

    • The rankings are reset every year, so if he plays somewhere for 2009, he’ll be reevaluated based on his ’08 and ’09 numbers.

      If he doesn’t play, I believe his current Elias ranking carries over into perpetuity until he does sign, so had we offered him arb and had he declined but sat out a year and signed next winter, we’d get picks in the 2010 June draft…

  17. Joey H says:

    This is vintage LoHud. On the Pavano thread.

    GreenBeret7 January 6th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    If Pettitte bows out, I’d consider Sheets on a 2 mil and heavy incentives to get to 13 mil., one year plus a team option and no byout.

  18. Mike Pop says:

    Its funny how Red Sox fans will say we bought our championship by spending all this money if we win one. But they spent from what I have seen 209 million over the 2006 offseason to bring in Daisuke, Drew, and Lugo. Then they won a championship but really both Drew and Lugo were shit until Drew did well in the playoffs and Dice-K was good but not amazing. So we spent 34 million more than them and got 3 much better players, no? Why wasn’t such a big deal made back then when it happened? Was it because they were not the 3 “top” free agents. Im saying 209 million is a good amount of money and I feel like a big deal was not made about this.

  19. MikeD says:

    I keep hoping Pavano invested his Yankee money with Maddoff.

  20. jad says:

    Only a brainless GM would pay 40 mill to an injured player and then not invest 1.5 mill to recover some investment when said player is finally healthy. I wish Shapiro were our GM. Imagine what he could do with this budget. Pavano will win 15 games for Cleveland, but why would we want him as a 5th starter when we can give 10 million to Pettitte instead. Saving 8.5 mill to use on a cf would make too much sense. Go CARL!!!

  21. [...] But Pavano shouldn’t look his gift horse in the mouth. The Yanks paid him $40 million to be a fraud. He should take his money and stay out of this, no matter how right he may be in calling out [...]

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