Jan
11
Open Thread: Giants look to return to NFC Title Game
ByDonovan McNabb, Jake Brian Westbrook and the rest of the Iggles storm into the frigid Meadowlands today, looking to get back to the NFC Title Game for the first time in five years. The G-Men were there just last year obviously, but they’ve lost three of their last four games. The bye week should have helped, as it gave Brandon Jacobs’ knee and Justin Tuck’s leg (amongst other walking wounded) a chance to rest up and get healthy. The two teams split their regular season matchup. This should be a good one.
In other local football news, the Jets will interview Ravens’ defensive coordinator Rex Ryan for their head coaching position today. I approve.
Chat away about the game here. Enjoy.
Giants stadium is going to explode the first time brandon jacobs and brian dawkins collide.
There we go Bradshaw!
Fu*k Yo couch Philly
Nice 4th down conversion
Either set up a screen or dont, don’t try to set the “natural pick” like the commentator said.
That’s right keep stopping Westbrook.
OSI!
He did look good in that suit. He required to wear that?
DEFENSE!!!!
LOUD NOISES!!1!11
Oh Eli
Giants love making things easy for the eagles
Short gains manning, then we can incorporate the run
I hate the offensive coordinator, hes so predictable
Eli isn’t looking so hot
I know he has gotten a rep now as a winner, but does anyone agree that Eli has become a bit overated? His stats should not have put him in the probowl, and his completion percentage is still not spectacular. Without that power run game, he’s a middling QB. He got better last season when Bradshaw got hot and supplemented Jacobs, and had the great running game all year. He’s above average, but I wouldn’t call him a probowler and there are at least 8-10 QB’s I would take over him. Anyone agree?
Yes, I would take Philip Rivers over him as the immediate comparison
8-10 in the NFC?
No definitely not. In the NFL. And I just ran through them and this is what I came up with, guys I would take over/equal to him for next season, assuming health.
Definitely: Warner, Roethlisberger, Peyton, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers.
Maybe: Romo, Hasselbeck, Cutler, Ryan, McNabb.
You would take Rodgers over him but not Romo. Come on now. Obviously a Pack fan.
True, here’s my rationale. I basically took all the people with better stats than Eli over Eli. Rodgers put up better numbers in his first year as a starter. Romo should have been in the first category, but I docked him for the fact that he seems to shrink in the big game. Rodgers has no big game experience, but I would rather have that unknown than know my QB is gonna come up small in the big spot. If you think that is unfair, that’s fine.
Hah, I don’t really care that much. Just found it funny. But I guess you think “Tony Choke-O” will never win the big game. We shall see soon enough. I think he will, our offense should be just too good next year. The defense could improve a bit with a new safety and maybe add another linebacker cause Zach Thomas is probably gone. Roy Williams is better than he showed in his time with the Cowboys, he had planter fasciitis and he was never thrown the ball. Calling it now, Cowboys win the NFC East next year.
It’s funny, I was really on the fence with Romo, but I figured that on a NY fan board, I would get more flack for putting him in the Definite category than the maybe category. Forgot about the resident Cowboy fan.
Ha
All my hate to the Giants aside,I would take Jay Cutler over Eli also. I would take Romo too but I’m a fan of his so that probably does not count in your mind.
“your”–giants fans on this thread
Taking Drew Brees over Eli Manning is a definite choice. Romo and Hasselbeck are maybe’s.
8-10 qb’s you’d take over eli manning?? You’re joking right?
Peyton
Brady
Brees
Rivers
Jay Cutler?
Carson Palmer??
Donovan?
Kurt warner?-give me fitzgerald and boldin ill put up 4000 yards
Tony CHOKE-O (yes i trademarked that)
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Vince Young?
You can make the same argument for alot of other QB’s that they’re surrounded by alot of talent of that hastily made crappy list only the top three I would take over ELi.
Okay good for you. When it is not a tandum of Jacobs and Ward next year thenradshaw and Jacobs don’t equal what the run game did this year, you can have Eli and you will lose.
You forgot Big Ben.
I know Mike’s favorite team is the Jets, but what’s Ben and Joe’s favorite football team?
Joe = Jets
Ben = Giants
Does anyone understand those “G” commercials? Please shed some light.
They’re for Gatorade.
Jim Edmunds for centerfield (yankees)?
against the youth movement. Could work but I doubt it.
I doubt it, he can’t really play CF anymore, so they might as well go Damon in CF with Nady & Swish
Nice special teams play
Come on Westbrook.
He must not be healthy.
FUCK!!!
Heh, Donovan tried to play it off after the call like someone was there.
dont blame donovan, he didnt know intentional grounding in the endzone was a safety
Haha thats great
I don’t think anyone knew that (Idk if you’re serious or not)
yea people know that
I made the safety signal from the comfort of my couch
Plenty of people know that, just like holding in the endzone is a safety, but he was joking off the “I didn’t know you could tie” quote
we need more jacobs to soften the d THEN ward.
so who are we trading for with the NATS? I don’t get the rumor. Sorry to interrupt the game. Go eli, nice passs
Lol at this comment, just kinda funny
Well at least the Eagles are slowing down the running game.
Your lucky Plax is not in this game. G-men are missing him bad here.
No excuses.
yea no shizzit, he above all else made eli look like an awesome quarterback. It’s pretty easy to throw td passes when your receiver is 7 inches taller than the nearest DB
Wow Hixon didn’t catch a pass…shocking
That was inches from a catch, nothing hixon could have done
46 Yd FG attempt in the Swamp, aint easy.
Looks like he thought it was gonna get pushed left but it was dead straight from the second he kicked it.
WTF, why would we waste a roster spot with tynes if he isnt there for long field goals. I would rather have Tolefson, who is inactive today because Tynes took his spot.
wasnt the length that was the problem it was just wide right.
Eli runs the no huddle like nobody’s business i wish just ONCE they’d try it before the end of a half.
McNabb seems to be just a little bit of a loser- you always expect bad things to happen to him and for him to have that confused look on his face. He’s a good QB, but I’m glad he does not play for my team. Reminds me of Bledsoe in that way.
Yea he is a loser. All he does is win with the least amount of talent in the NFL.
I didnt mean loser as in losing games, I meant it as in not knowing the NFL rules about overttime and throwing up in the SB.
Ugh, don’t say Bledsoe lol.
RAB didn’t say “play nice”
Giants don’t play nice
Word.
Phili isn’t doing shit if we lose this game its because we beat ourselves
Exactly dude.
Hey the way the birds are playin, they should be hyped they got the slim lead.
Ok, who wants to see Taken?
was just talking to my friend about that
never was i more happy to see somebody get shot then when that chicks character got killed on lost.
Whoa whoa whoa. Which one was she on Lost?
shannon
Forget I asked, just looked her up. Cant believe I missed that.
One of my buddies saw an advanced screening. He said it was aight.
Ahhh….dont kill the just seen the commercial buzz with the inevitable wishy washy reviews and critical derision.
I just watched it a couple days ago. Was pretty good. Ending was a little weak but its a good watch.
The way Eli is throwing the ball, he’s pretty damn vulrable to the pick.
nice defense by Boss to break that last one up
Giants go for it here or just take the points?
Take the points. Especially in the playoffs.
Was suspending Plaxico for the year the right thing to do?
given that I doubt he would be physically able to perform… yes
forgot about the bullet hole. lol.
Yeah. He’s pretty fu*ked. NY does not take unlicensed firearms lightly
With Bloomberg calling for his head.
COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNnn 4th and 1 you have brandon jacobs and youre kicking this bullshit
This is what is going to happen to the Giants with Carney as your kicker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTGco82JKHo
u know this was comin mike
heres what you get with tony romo as your QB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....p;index=40
That ball was oiled up .
Wouldn’t surprise me to hear Tony loves oiled balls.
Well he did’nt love that ball because he fumbled it and lost the game. But good attempt at humor there even though your joke made no sense. You should of said something like:
“I thought Tony HOMO loved oiled balls”, ya know something that made more sense.
Sorry i was concentrating on watching my team in the playoffs I was a little bit distracted didnt give the joke %110, my bad.
It’s okay bud. Next time you just give that extra effort and it will be a better joke.
1:24 with a TO, Eagles can certainly get some points here.
Not with the way you’ve been playing.
I think you might be wrong.
Heh. Stepped it up there, got the momentum
gmen are gonna block this fieldgoal and take it to the house
orrrrrrr not
Excellent drive by the Eagles there. Why coulnd’t they do that more often is beyond me but oh well Eagles got the lead.
Fox pregame/halftime crew or CBS’s ?
OMFG 24 starts tonight. I forgot all about it. Praise be to Mo.
Another thought. Anyone else agree that the NFL gets more and more parity every year, and its starting to make the league suck a bit? There are no great teams anymore, no teams that have that aura going where it shocks you to seem them lose. I think the three best teams in the NFC last season (Cowboys, Packers, last years Giants), and the three teams in the AFC (Colts, Pats, Chargers) were all better than any team this season, and it gets a bit worse every year as the talent continues to be spread around. I just find that compared to MLB, NBA, and even NHL, the NFL playoffs are killed by an entire slate of blah games between a handful of solid teams. The only compelling matchups thus far were Chargers-Colts and tonights Chargers game, and ultimatly, even SD is an 8-8 team. Anyone else?
The Ravens/Titans was a compelling matchup in my opinion.
Yeah, there are good games, but only bc both teams are nothing special. Solid teams, but not really great.
Parity is good. I don’t see any blah games on the slate. Chargers-Steelers is a huge match-up. Yesterday’s games were great too. Chargers wouldn’t be in the playoffs if Denver handled their business which they didn’t and Shanahan was fired for it.
Interesting. I thought Ravens-Dolphins, Falcons-Cards, Vikings-Eagles, Cards-Carolina, and to a lesser extent Titans-Ravens were all matchups that did nothing to bring in a casual fan. I’m a die-hard, so I watch all of the games every year, but I just find myself less interested in the storylines because it seems like more bad teams make it every year.
What teams that made it are bad?
Seriously? Bad may be a strong word- how about not good. I think its fair to say that although the Cards are playing well now, they looked awful for a large chunk of the season. The Vikings same deal, the Eagles were wildly inconsistent, and the lone team in the NFC divisional round that played well all year got knocked out in the first round, the Falcons. In the AFC, the DOlphins dont particularly impress me, and the Chargers were wildly inconsistent until a Denver collapse let them back in. I just felt like a lot of the playoff teams are the kind of teams that you look at at the end of the season and say “how did they get in? Was their schedule easy or something?”
There isn’t anything you can do to change that. Teams have to execute in this league be successful. There will always be surprises in the playoffs as teams will suffer injuries and strength of schedule will always play a part.
Yeah, but it would become ok if the teams on top were good enough to be counted on to knock the bad teams out. But all the teams are on a lower level.
True.
It goes through swings, usually based on injuries & schedule. While I agree that there are less dominant teams this year than last part of that was Brady, Romo & Peyton’s injuries.
Seriously, Pam Oliver? Sideline reporters=huge waste of time.
Great, just great.
It’s funny watching Robbins run.
That’s a small victory.
Big play there by McNabb and Avant.
This is a pathetic display of defense right now.
Dammit Curtis.
I guess white guys can’t be wide receivers.
Unless ya Largent.
Or Welker
giants d is blowing now
thank you barry coefield for cleaning out your middle linebacker
McNabb looks jittery on those screen plays- too quick to throw the ball- not selling them.
Oh good. A costly injury. That should make watching the rest of this game even more frustrating than it’s already been.
Please allow some more third-and-long conversions.
Who has the wind at their back for the fourth quarter?
iggz
Got the lead but the Eagles need TD’s not FG’s.
Another Jason movie.
Oh wow another “Friday The 13th” movie. I didn’t even know that they were comming out with one.
That’s a great throw.
No doubt. On the Money.
SHIT!!!
alright completing a pass down the field
I hate windy games and other assorted weather altered games- that Bills Pats game week 17 was stupid. It totally changes the game.
but that’s real football. elements etc.
I dont mind cold, even snow. In those games, both teams have the cold and the snow. With wind, the direction you are going makes all the difference- one team has the disadvantage at a time.
Yea i don’t agree. Not to sound like Mike Ditka but football is more than just winning in domes. You have to be able to adapt to stuff.
Great Job Eagles. Knew it he would miss that FG.
This is so ugly
Carney misses. This isn’t going good.
Nice. So that’s six points off the board because of Carney. Pathetic.
To be fair, 46 and 47 yd FG’s in the Meadowlands in that weather are far from easy.
over 40 yds = tynes
Heh told ya Carney was going to hurt ya.
He couldn’t sneak that one inside the foul pole.
Aikman so badly wants the G-men to lose this one.
these long third downs are when we really miss osi
We’ve missed Osi the whole year.
Wow they call that pass interference………Eagles will take it.
oh well it was the right call…………Fuck.
i dont think so.
Giants D is sloppy
Gotta get a TD here.
One thing they have not mentioned that is important- Iggles have eaten a lot of the clock for the Giants turn with the wind at their back.
And as I hit send, he mentions it.
Honestly we do not deserve to win this game.
EAGLES BABY!!!!!
Terrific playcalling as well calling a playaction there.
I guess you can say the Eagles are “flying high”.
BALLIN!!!!
Gotta go for it there.
You have got to go for this
Bad spot.
Check that- his head got a first down, but he did not extend the ball at all. Just short.
Just QB sneak with Eli
Didn’t work.
If you have any faith in your defense, you need to punt- there’s plenty of time, if you could pin Philly deep, you could get the ball back in the same place, or even force a TO.
Boy that challenge made really no sense.
Game
Big stop by the Eagles.
poor by the oline
I’m sorry, thats a panic move. 12 and 1/2 minutes left, you can still play the field position game.
yes yes start celebrating philly
Two questionable des by the Giants there:
1. Why would Coughlin challenge that play?
2. Why didn’t Coughlin go to Jacobs there?
Jacobs has been stopped on 4th and 1/inches many times. Also when you give it to Jacobs you start back 2 yards more. I might of went with a direct snap to Jacobs.
Yea but he’s ya best RB and best Power RB.
Agreed, playcalling has been kinda shady today. IMO too much derrick ward in the first half.
1. who knows
2. Basically you figure eli can get a few inches, handing off to anyone gives the chance for penetration and a backfield stop
the giants cornerbacks are very good tacklers.
That QB sneak was bad play-calling considering you have a 275lb running back in your backfield.
Word, you just did the Eagles a favor there not going to Jacobs.
Ehh, I dont know. Jacobs is not great in short yardage- he needs to get his legs going to move the pile and carry people- if he gets hit near the backfield, he goes down.
G-men will resign jacobs, ward is as good as gone next year.
ahmad bradshaw should step in and fill Ward’s role.
Doubt he will get 1k yards though.
First tight completion pass by Eli.
stuffed
ahh the playcalling
I thought they were gonna throw but went to Jacobs there.
figure they go playaction… the direct snap was just really, of all the times to bust it out
WOW EAGLES has been H-U-G-E.
Ivan, your Iggles going to beat the Cards?
gotta like the cards at home…especially if boldin is healthy
Why not, we certainly can. But I don’t wanna think ahead here.
We, I mean the Eagles.
Ya I know. Asante and Dawkins double Fitz? Fitz will still get 100 yards lol, that guy is so good.
Yea, key would be to pressure the shit out of warner.
Yup. Take him out, get Leinart in there lol.
Just one TD and it’s over.
Ahh yes the giants of old, playing down to lesser competiton. Wonderful.
Hey last postseason, teams played lesser to you guys.
yes indeed, I think we were alot better last year though
Bull. You were a better team this year by far. You just did’nt play well in this game and the Eagles have been hot. But Eli is overrated.
Ugh I keep doing that. ………. didn’t****
umm last years team was pretty much the same except had michael strahan osi umenyiora and plaxico burress
McNabb goes to 9-5 in the playoffs while Eli falls to 4-3. Eli’s got the ring though.
Why not go for it here? At worst, the Giants need to go 99 yards to get within one score, at best you end the game on that play. They should have run the ball to keep the clocking moving on third down, and gone for it on fourth. Worst case, you give it back with 3.20 left up 9 and the Jints need to go 99.
Nah gotta take the points there.
I a lil dissapointed that the Eagles didn’t get a TD there. A FG puts the Giants on life support, while a TD pulls the plug on the life support machine.
My dude, the game is over. Don’t worry so much, bask in the glory.
I’m not sure I want Spags as the Jets HC now…
wow that is an odd comment – they giants D played well today and even if they didn’t that would be a very rash comment. Why???
lataaaaaaaaaaaa
Pick off, game OVA.
Tebow’s going back to school. Good move for him. Shot at a third National Championship, second Heisman, establish himself as the greatest college player ever.
Fuck you, Elisha Manning.
Remember, no matter how bad Eli played, Delhomme was worse.
Point well taken.
game…set..match!
Is Eli’s honeymoon over- are Giant fans going to start calling the FAN again looking for his head? Also, does everyone still like parity? Eagles at Cardinals for the right to represent the NFC in the SuperBowl. I’m shivering with anticipation. What a terrible matchup for Fox.
Especially if Rivers beats the Steelers today the debate can be revisited
Like I said, McNabb =loser.
But he’s in the NFC Championship game.
Agreed- listen no one can argue with the fact that his Eagles have always been playoff contenders with often middling offensive talent. But he still comes off as a loser occasionally. Again, I think Bledsoe gave off the same vibe.
Who else in your opinion has that type of vibe? Eli, Cutler, Romo? Just not Rodgers.
Seriously? McNabb admitted he didnt know the rules, loved and then hated TO, and puked in the huddle in the SB. Bledsoe was an established starting QB that lost his job to young QB’s who came out of nowhere TWICE. Those guys just had comically bad stuff happen, and both often looked almost confused on the field when things didnt go their way.
Okay. Obviously I’m not a big fan of McNabb but I still think he is a heck of a QB when on top of his game. What happened to Bledsoe, I agree he is a loser. But a loser with alot of money, ha.
To think that Eli was in the discussion of who was the better Manning.
That was a silly manufactured conversation by the media. It was never a question.
Such a dumb discussion.
Never was – at least not by anyone intelligent. Also not having Plex killed the giants in this game.
How is the NFC title game a terrible match-up? “The Greatest Show on
TurfGrass” 2.0 hosting Donovan McNabb, Donovan Westbrook and that Philadelphia defense? Those teams have the two best dynamic offenses in the NFC with Plaxico out.Also watching Fitz work magic is great to see.
I’m sorry, the Cardinals are just not that good (9 wins, 6 against that awful division), and the Eagles are just a boring offensive team when Westbrook has a quiet day.
The Giants were just not that good last year, but they came through in the playoffs and came out on top. Patriotswere by far the better team but Giants beat them and it was a great game.
I think those Giants were much better than these Eagles or Cards. And the Giants had plenty of buzz about them going into that game bc of how they had played the Pats in week 17. The only interesting story that could still occur is a Pennsylvania SB, and even that doesnt excite me that much.
But the Iggles had plenty of buzz after owning my Boys and what they did after McNabb got benched.
Fair enough. I guess that I’ve always found the Eagles to be a boring team- they’ve been winning ugly games for a decade now.
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Heh. Last one
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OK, I’m done.
I’ll post my next one next year when Romo is holding the VL Trophy.
LOL
Oh, you mean like something that is already in the history books and not just a fan’s pipe dream?
I think I have that for you: http://cdn.faniq.com/images/bl.....II-MVP.jpg
I don’t consider it a pipe dream at all. The Cowboys have a very good shot in 09-10.
How’d Dallas so again?
*do
We went 9-7, didn’t make the playoffs.
Had the same amount of playoff wins as the giants this year.
HAHAHAHAHAH steve smith
bad day for the Giants?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hZQzbjU3z0
Arizona is hosting the NFC championship!
I feel good. Hey Jamal and to all the Giants fans, ha ha ha, Eagles kicked that ass.
BUT…. BUT…. UMM…. STUPID JERKZORS.
I just felt really shitty for like 5 minutes then i realized Pitchers and Catchers report in 33 days
Cards beat you though.
Hey, entire Eagles fan-base: http://www.rocklandcast.com/im.....20ring.jpg
Good luck getting just one.
We’ll see.
Indeed we will
I now have Kevin Youkilis-esque dislike for Donovan McNabb. “As a veteran in this league…” who got benched for Kevin Kolb. Shut the fuck up, tool.
Sour grapes??
Yes.
I feel for you – as a broncos fan (its hard to admit it)
Damn, I feel worse for you dudes.
the sourest
At least pitchers and catchers report in a month… My wife’s from Philly so I’ll hear it from her and the rest of her clan. *grrrrrrr*
I don’t care if it’s the Steelers or Bolts – I want SOMEONE to beat the f***ing Ravens… Ravens fans are the worst here.
A lil angry no?
Battle of the birds next week.
Giants need to trade up in the draft and get crabtree
they would have to trade wayyyy up
Ugh that nfc championship game is for the birds
Congratulations Eagles!!! Way to beat the GMen. This year they didn’t have that prayer pass to Dixon from Manning. I guess no stickem on the helmet this time. Thanks for knocking another Manning out of the playoffs:)
manning to tyree, and the other receiver is Hixon
Point taken but no matter who the heck the receiveer was they didn’t get lucky this time because lets be honest that lucky play is what got them that championship as they would have been on their way to loosing if he hadn’t made it. Again congrats Eagels and thanks for your work:)
How is being in position to beat an 18-0 team luck? And it wouldve been 4th and 5, not impossible.
Asante Samuel dropping an easy pick one play before the “catch” is luck. Everyone always forgets that play.
No matter what you say they got lucky. 4th and 5 might be mangiable but it’s not easy.
Lets go Yankees!
YES, LET”S GO YANKS:)
I was concerned with Westbrook, but as it turns out I should have been worried about the offense because they were a mess
I would love to see crabtree in NY
That was a spectacular play- if the Chargers win, it will be the 4 and 6 seeds in both conferences. Crazy.
Scifres not off to such a great start today.
Yeah, everyone expected the special teams game to be strongly in favor of SD. Football is a crazy game.
CBS > FOX for football
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....lat-1.html
Perretto thinks Pettitte will sign with the Astros for less than $10 million.
*Perrotto
Pudge has no market and may have to take a minor league deal… yikes for his agent