Open Thread: Giants look to return to NFC Title Game


Donovan McNabb, Jake Brian Westbrook and the rest of the Iggles storm into the frigid Meadowlands today, looking to get back to the NFC Title Game for the first time in five years. The G-Men were there just last year obviously, but they’ve lost three of their last four games. The bye week should have helped, as it gave Brandon Jacobs’ knee and Justin Tuck’s leg (amongst other walking wounded) a chance to rest up and get healthy. The two teams split their regular season matchup. This should be a good one.

In other local football news, the Jets will interview Ravens’ defensive coordinator Rex Ryan for their head coaching position today. I approve.

Chat away about the game here. Enjoy.


  1. pat says:

    Giants stadium is going to explode the first time brandon jacobs and brian dawkins collide.

  2. Kevin G. says:

    There we go Bradshaw!

  3. pat says:

    Fu*k Yo couch Philly

  4. Manimal says:

    Nice 4th down conversion

  5. Manimal says:

    Either set up a screen or dont, don’t try to set the “natural pick” like the commentator said.

  6. Kevin G says:

    That’s right keep stopping Westbrook.

  7. pat says:

    LOUD NOISES!!1!11

  8. pat says:

    Giants love making things easy for the eagles

  9. Manimal says:

    Short gains manning, then we can incorporate the run

  10. Manimal says:

    I hate the offensive coordinator, hes so predictable

  11. A.D. says:

    Eli isn’t looking so hot

  12. Moshe Mandel says:

    I know he has gotten a rep now as a winner, but does anyone agree that Eli has become a bit overated? His stats should not have put him in the probowl, and his completion percentage is still not spectacular. Without that power run game, he’s a middling QB. He got better last season when Bradshaw got hot and supplemented Jacobs, and had the great running game all year. He’s above average, but I wouldn’t call him a probowler and there are at least 8-10 QB’s I would take over him. Anyone agree?

    • A.D. says:

      Yes, I would take Philip Rivers over him as the immediate comparison

    • E-ROC says:

      8-10 in the NFC?

      • Moshe Mandel says:

        No definitely not. In the NFL. And I just ran through them and this is what I came up with, guys I would take over/equal to him for next season, assuming health.

        Definitely: Warner, Roethlisberger, Peyton, Brady, Brees, Rivers, Rodgers.
        Maybe: Romo, Hasselbeck, Cutler, Ryan, McNabb.

        • Mike Pop says:

          You would take Rodgers over him but not Romo. Come on now. Obviously a Pack fan.

          • Moshe Mandel says:

            True, here’s my rationale. I basically took all the people with better stats than Eli over Eli. Rodgers put up better numbers in his first year as a starter. Romo should have been in the first category, but I docked him for the fact that he seems to shrink in the big game. Rodgers has no big game experience, but I would rather have that unknown than know my QB is gonna come up small in the big spot. If you think that is unfair, that’s fine.

            • Mike Pop says:

              Hah, I don’t really care that much. Just found it funny. But I guess you think “Tony Choke-O” will never win the big game. We shall see soon enough. I think he will, our offense should be just too good next year. The defense could improve a bit with a new safety and maybe add another linebacker cause Zach Thomas is probably gone. Roy Williams is better than he showed in his time with the Cowboys, he had planter fasciitis and he was never thrown the ball. Calling it now, Cowboys win the NFC East next year.

        • E-ROC says:

          Taking Drew Brees over Eli Manning is a definite choice. Romo and Hasselbeck are maybe’s.

    • pat says:

      8-10 qb’s you’d take over eli manning?? You’re joking right?
      Jay Cutler?
      Carson Palmer??
      Kurt warner?-give me fitzgerald and boldin ill put up 4000 yards
      Tony CHOKE-O (yes i trademarked that)
      Ryan Fitzpatrick
      Vince Young?

      You can make the same argument for alot of other QB’s that they’re surrounded by alot of talent of that hastily made crappy list only the top three I would take over ELi.

  13. Kevin G. says:

    I know Mike’s favorite team is the Jets, but what’s Ben and Joe’s favorite football team?

  14. Abe says:

    Does anyone understand those “G” commercials? Please shed some light.

  15. Tim says:

    Jim Edmunds for centerfield (yankees)?

  16. Manimal says:

    Nice special teams play

  17. Ivan says:

    Come on Westbrook.

    He must not be healthy.

  18. pat says:

    we need more jacobs to soften the d THEN ward.

  19. waswhining says:

    so who are we trading for with the NATS? I don’t get the rumor. Sorry to interrupt the game. Go eli, nice passs

  20. Ivan says:

    Well at least the Eagles are slowing down the running game.

  21. A.D. says:

    Wow Hixon didn’t catch a pass…shocking

  22. Ivan says:

    46 Yd FG attempt in the Swamp, aint easy.

  23. Manimal says:

    WTF, why would we waste a roster spot with tynes if he isnt there for long field goals. I would rather have Tolefson, who is inactive today because Tynes took his spot.

  24. pat says:

    Eli runs the no huddle like nobody’s business i wish just ONCE they’d try it before the end of a half.

  25. Moshe Mandel says:

    McNabb seems to be just a little bit of a loser- you always expect bad things to happen to him and for him to have that confused look on his face. He’s a good QB, but I’m glad he does not play for my team. Reminds me of Bledsoe in that way.

  26. Tom Zig says:

    RAB didn’t say “play nice”

  27. Manimal says:

    Phili isn’t doing shit if we lose this game its because we beat ourselves

  28. Moshe Mandel says:

    Ok, who wants to see Taken?

  29. Ivan says:

    The way Eli is throwing the ball, he’s pretty damn vulrable to the pick.

  30. Ivan says:

    Giants go for it here or just take the points?

  31. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Was suspending Plaxico for the year the right thing to do?

  32. pat says:

    COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNnn 4th and 1 you have brandon jacobs and youre kicking this bullshit

  33. Mike Pop says:

    This is what is going to happen to the Giants with Carney as your kicker.


  34. Ivan says:

    1:24 with a TO, Eagles can certainly get some points here.

  35. pat says:

    gmen are gonna block this fieldgoal and take it to the house

  36. Ivan says:

    Excellent drive by the Eagles there. Why coulnd’t they do that more often is beyond me but oh well Eagles got the lead.

  37. Mike Pop says:

    Fox pregame/halftime crew or CBS’s ?

  38. Mike A. says:

    OMFG 24 starts tonight. I forgot all about it. Praise be to Mo.

  39. Moshe Mandel says:

    Another thought. Anyone else agree that the NFL gets more and more parity every year, and its starting to make the league suck a bit? There are no great teams anymore, no teams that have that aura going where it shocks you to seem them lose. I think the three best teams in the NFC last season (Cowboys, Packers, last years Giants), and the three teams in the AFC (Colts, Pats, Chargers) were all better than any team this season, and it gets a bit worse every year as the talent continues to be spread around. I just find that compared to MLB, NBA, and even NHL, the NFL playoffs are killed by an entire slate of blah games between a handful of solid teams. The only compelling matchups thus far were Chargers-Colts and tonights Chargers game, and ultimatly, even SD is an 8-8 team. Anyone else?

    • Mike Pop says:

      The Ravens/Titans was a compelling matchup in my opinion.

    • E-ROC says:

      Parity is good. I don’t see any blah games on the slate. Chargers-Steelers is a huge match-up. Yesterday’s games were great too. Chargers wouldn’t be in the playoffs if Denver handled their business which they didn’t and Shanahan was fired for it.

      • Moshe Mandel says:

        Interesting. I thought Ravens-Dolphins, Falcons-Cards, Vikings-Eagles, Cards-Carolina, and to a lesser extent Titans-Ravens were all matchups that did nothing to bring in a casual fan. I’m a die-hard, so I watch all of the games every year, but I just find myself less interested in the storylines because it seems like more bad teams make it every year.

        • E-ROC says:

          What teams that made it are bad?

          • Moshe Mandel says:

            Seriously? Bad may be a strong word- how about not good. I think its fair to say that although the Cards are playing well now, they looked awful for a large chunk of the season. The Vikings same deal, the Eagles were wildly inconsistent, and the lone team in the NFC divisional round that played well all year got knocked out in the first round, the Falcons. In the AFC, the DOlphins dont particularly impress me, and the Chargers were wildly inconsistent until a Denver collapse let them back in. I just felt like a lot of the playoff teams are the kind of teams that you look at at the end of the season and say “how did they get in? Was their schedule easy or something?”

    • A.D. says:

      It goes through swings, usually based on injuries & schedule. While I agree that there are less dominant teams this year than last part of that was Brady, Romo & Peyton’s injuries.

  40. Moshe Mandel says:

    Seriously, Pam Oliver? Sideline reporters=huge waste of time.

  41. Ivan says:

    Great, just great.

  42. Kevin G. says:

    It’s funny watching Robbins run.

  43. Ivan says:

    That’s a small victory.

  44. Ivan says:

    Big play there by McNabb and Avant.

  45. Ben K. says:

    This is a pathetic display of defense right now.

  46. Ivan says:

    Dammit Curtis.

  47. A.D. says:

    giants d is blowing now

  48. pat says:

    thank you barry coefield for cleaning out your middle linebacker

  49. Moshe Mandel says:

    McNabb looks jittery on those screen plays- too quick to throw the ball- not selling them.

  50. Ben K. says:

    Oh good. A costly injury. That should make watching the rest of this game even more frustrating than it’s already been.

  51. Ben K. says:

    Please allow some more third-and-long conversions.

  52. Moshe Mandel says:

    Who has the wind at their back for the fourth quarter?

  53. Ivan says:

    Got the lead but the Eagles need TD’s not FG’s.

  54. Kevin G. says:

    Another Jason movie.

  55. Ivan says:

    Oh wow another “Friday The 13th” movie. I didn’t even know that they were comming out with one.

  56. Moshe Mandel says:

    That’s a great throw.

  57. A.D. says:

    alright completing a pass down the field

  58. Moshe Mandel says:

    I hate windy games and other assorted weather altered games- that Bills Pats game week 17 was stupid. It totally changes the game.

    • LiveFromNewYork says:

      but that’s real football. elements etc.

      • Moshe Mandel says:

        I dont mind cold, even snow. In those games, both teams have the cold and the snow. With wind, the direction you are going makes all the difference- one team has the disadvantage at a time.

      • Abe says:

        Yea i don’t agree. Not to sound like Mike Ditka but football is more than just winning in domes. You have to be able to adapt to stuff.

  59. Ivan says:

    Great Job Eagles. Knew it he would miss that FG.

  60. pat says:

    This is so ugly

  61. Reggie C. says:

    Carney misses. This isn’t going good.

  62. Ben K. says:

    Nice. So that’s six points off the board because of Carney. Pathetic.

  63. A.D. says:

    over 40 yds = tynes

  64. Mike Pop says:

    Heh told ya Carney was going to hurt ya.

  65. Mike A. says:

    He couldn’t sneak that one inside the foul pole.

  66. Reggie C. says:

    Aikman so badly wants the G-men to lose this one.

  67. pat says:

    these long third downs are when we really miss osi

  68. Ivan says:

    Wow they call that pass interference………Eagles will take it.

  69. A.D. says:

    Giants D is sloppy

  70. Ivan says:

    Gotta get a TD here.

  71. Moshe Mandel says:

    One thing they have not mentioned that is important- Iggles have eaten a lot of the clock for the Giants turn with the wind at their back.

  72. pat says:

    Honestly we do not deserve to win this game.

  73. Ivan says:

    EAGLES BABY!!!!!

    Terrific playcalling as well calling a playaction there.

  74. Ivan says:

    Gotta go for it there.

  75. pat says:

    You have got to go for this

  76. Moshe Mandel says:

    Bad spot.

  77. A.D. says:

    Just QB sneak with Eli

  78. Moshe Mandel says:

    If you have any faith in your defense, you need to punt- there’s plenty of time, if you could pin Philly deep, you could get the ball back in the same place, or even force a TO.

  79. Ivan says:

    Boy that challenge made really no sense.

  80. Mike Pop says:


  81. Ivan says:

    Big stop by the Eagles.

  82. A.D. says:

    poor by the oline

  83. Moshe Mandel says:

    I’m sorry, thats a panic move. 12 and 1/2 minutes left, you can still play the field position game.

  84. pat says:

    yes yes start celebrating philly

  85. Ivan says:

    Two questionable des by the Giants there:

    1. Why would Coughlin challenge that play?

    2. Why didn’t Coughlin go to Jacobs there?

  86. pat says:

    the giants cornerbacks are very good tacklers.

  87. E-ROC says:

    That QB sneak was bad play-calling considering you have a 275lb running back in your backfield.

    • Ivan says:

      Word, you just did the Eagles a favor there not going to Jacobs.

    • Moshe Mandel says:

      Ehh, I dont know. Jacobs is not great in short yardage- he needs to get his legs going to move the pile and carry people- if he gets hit near the backfield, he goes down.

  88. pat says:

    G-men will resign jacobs, ward is as good as gone next year.

  89. Reggie C. says:

    First tight completion pass by Eli.

  90. A.D. says:

    ahh the playcalling

  91. Ivan says:

    WOW EAGLES has been H-U-G-E.

  92. Mike Pop says:

    Ivan, your Iggles going to beat the Cards?

  93. Ivan says:

    Just one TD and it’s over.

  94. pat says:

    Ahh yes the giants of old, playing down to lesser competiton. Wonderful.

  95. Mike Pop says:

    McNabb goes to 9-5 in the playoffs while Eli falls to 4-3. Eli’s got the ring though.

  96. Moshe Mandel says:

    Why not go for it here? At worst, the Giants need to go 99 yards to get within one score, at best you end the game on that play. They should have run the ball to keep the clocking moving on third down, and gone for it on fourth. Worst case, you give it back with 3.20 left up 9 and the Jints need to go 99.

  97. Ivan says:

    I a lil dissapointed that the Eagles didn’t get a TD there. A FG puts the Giants on life support, while a TD pulls the plug on the life support machine.

  98. I’m not sure I want Spags as the Jets HC now…

    • Abe says:

      wow that is an odd comment – they giants D played well today and even if they didn’t that would be a very rash comment. Why???

  99. pat says:


  100. Ivan says:

    Pick off, game OVA.

  101. Mike A. says:

    Tebow’s going back to school. Good move for him. Shot at a third National Championship, second Heisman, establish himself as the greatest college player ever.

  102. Jamal G. says:

    Fuck you, Elisha Manning.

  103. Brooklyn Ed says:


  104. Moshe Mandel says:

    Is Eli’s honeymoon over- are Giant fans going to start calling the FAN again looking for his head? Also, does everyone still like parity? Eagles at Cardinals for the right to represent the NFC in the SuperBowl. I’m shivering with anticipation. What a terrible matchup for Fox.

  105. A.D. says:

    Especially if Rivers beats the Steelers today the debate can be revisited

  106. Moshe Mandel says:

    Like I said, McNabb =loser.

    • Ivan says:

      But he’s in the NFC Championship game.

      • Moshe Mandel says:

        Agreed- listen no one can argue with the fact that his Eagles have always been playoff contenders with often middling offensive talent. But he still comes off as a loser occasionally. Again, I think Bledsoe gave off the same vibe.

        • Mike Pop says:

          Who else in your opinion has that type of vibe? Eli, Cutler, Romo? Just not Rodgers.

          • Moshe Mandel says:

            Seriously? McNabb admitted he didnt know the rules, loved and then hated TO, and puked in the huddle in the SB. Bledsoe was an established starting QB that lost his job to young QB’s who came out of nowhere TWICE. Those guys just had comically bad stuff happen, and both often looked almost confused on the field when things didnt go their way.

            • Mike Pop says:

              Okay. Obviously I’m not a big fan of McNabb but I still think he is a heck of a QB when on top of his game. What happened to Bledsoe, I agree he is a loser. But a loser with alot of money, ha.

  107. Ivan says:

    To think that Eli was in the discussion of who was the better Manning.

  108. Jamal G. says:

    How is the NFC title game a terrible match-up? “The Greatest Show on Turf Grass” 2.0 hosting Donovan McNabb, Donovan Westbrook and that Philadelphia defense? Those teams have the two best dynamic offenses in the NFC with Plaxico out.

    • Mike Pop says:

      Also watching Fitz work magic is great to see.

    • Moshe Mandel says:

      I’m sorry, the Cardinals are just not that good (9 wins, 6 against that awful division), and the Eagles are just a boring offensive team when Westbrook has a quiet day.

      • Mike Pop says:

        The Giants were just not that good last year, but they came through in the playoffs and came out on top. Patriotswere by far the better team but Giants beat them and it was a great game.

        • Moshe Mandel says:

          I think those Giants were much better than these Eagles or Cards. And the Giants had plenty of buzz about them going into that game bc of how they had played the Pats in week 17. The only interesting story that could still occur is a Pennsylvania SB, and even that doesnt excite me that much.

          • Mike Pop says:

            But the Iggles had plenty of buzz after owning my Boys and what they did after McNabb got benched.

            • Moshe Mandel says:

              Fair enough. I guess that I’ve always found the Eagles to be a boring team- they’ve been winning ugly games for a decade now.

  109. pat says:

    HAHAHAHAHAH steve smith

  110. Abe says:

    Arizona is hosting the NFC championship!

  111. Ivan says:

    I feel good. Hey Jamal and to all the Giants fans, ha ha ha, Eagles kicked that ass.

  112. Jamal G. says:

    I now have Kevin Youkilis-esque dislike for Donovan McNabb. “As a veteran in this league…” who got benched for Kevin Kolb. Shut the fuck up, tool.

  113. Manimal says:

    Battle of the birds next week.

    Giants need to trade up in the draft and get crabtree

  114. pat says:

    Ugh that nfc championship game is for the birds

  115. Currambayankees says:

    Congratulations Eagles!!! Way to beat the GMen. This year they didn’t have that prayer pass to Dixon from Manning. I guess no stickem on the helmet this time. Thanks for knocking another Manning out of the playoffs:)

    • pat says:

      manning to tyree, and the other receiver is Hixon

      • Currambayankees says:

        Point taken but no matter who the heck the receiveer was they didn’t get lucky this time because lets be honest that lucky play is what got them that championship as they would have been on their way to loosing if he hadn’t made it. Again congrats Eagels and thanks for your work:)

  116. LiveFromNewYork says:

    Lets go Yankees!

  117. Manimal says:

    I was concerned with Westbrook, but as it turns out I should have been worried about the offense because they were a mess

  118. Moshe Mandel says:

    That was a spectacular play- if the Chargers win, it will be the 4 and 6 seeds in both conferences. Crazy.

  119. A.D. says:

    CBS > FOX for football

  120. E-ROC says:


    Perretto thinks Pettitte will sign with the Astros for less than $10 million.

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