May
21
Hughes to start Monday as Wang goes for Scranton tomorrow
ByThe headline says it all. The Yankees have announced that Chien-Ming Wang will make at least one more rehab start and that Phil Hughes will take one more turn in the rotation. Wang’s start is set for Scranton tomorrow, and Hughes is scheduled to pitch on Monday afternoon in Texas. The Yanks will then reevaluate their options and determine if they wish to use Thursday’s off-day to slot Wang back into the Big League five. “We just want to see him have the stuff he had in the bullpen,” Girardi said, explaining the team’s decision.
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good call. I am pleased with this decision. Now, hopefully Wang has the stuff tomorrow, Hughes dazzles in his next ml start and then they flip flop, wang to ml and hughes to aaa.
hopefully, wang reverts back to his previous form and hughes improves greatly in aaa on his control in general and hsi feel for his changeup and cutter. then boom, when joba reaches his innings limit, shut him down, and hughes steps in.
That, I would have to guess, is the plan.
I’m concerned about the change. He barely ever throws it in games. I think he’s going to need that, especially if he’s going for more the power curve, a la A.J., rather than the spike curve he used last year.
For realz. Abandoned the damn change. They should put him on that program where he has to throw it at least 15 times in a game.
CC’s last start really showed what a good change can do. Philly abandoning it was so stupid.
Or maybe a bunch of us clamoring for him to continually throw a pitch that he probably is just not enough comfortable with is a bit silly. He probably just didn’t feel right with it last night; it happens.
It’s not just last night, thought. 2.1% of the time… :[
Once again, here we are lacking information, so we assume we know what’s going on — and that it’s stupid — so we can get mad about it.
If he isn’t confident in it, he’s NOT going to throw it in big league games. We don’t know that he’s “abandoned” it — it might just not be that good right now. Which is why he DOES still have something to go do in AAA. Tell him he can only throw 30-40 fastballs a game…he’ll struggle for a bit, but he’ll work on the cutter and the change, I’ll tell you that much.
because he doesnt have confidence in it probably, and doesn’t want to give up 8 runs in an inning again. which is why he needs to go to aaa where he can dominate. because if he is dominating he has a positive attitude and if then he is working in more pitches and getting a feel for them its ok if he gets hit around a little….just my opinion
Agree about the changeup. I’m also hoping that last night’s start wasn’t a fluke either, because that was the best I’ve seen his fastball move – when he’s bad, especially when he’s not controlling the offspeed stuff, his fastball has been flat and straight and it’s tee off time for the opposition.
I don’t care for it. I think a roster with Wang and Hughes for a couple of weeks wouldn’t be a bad thing. I don’t care what one of them gets used out of the pen–I like it when the major league team has the best possible players on the roster. That sometimes leads to winning baseball games.
And if 2-3 weeks from now Wang has proven he is good to go, I do think Hughes can benefit from a little more time pitching inside the strike zone at AAA, and maybe working with the change-up.
Can you tell me where I can find pitchFX for last night’s game? I am interested to see if Hughes was getting the swing-and-misses on strikes or not. If those guys were swinging through strikes–and Baltimore has been very disciplined thus far this year–that means a huge step forward. If they were chasing, I would say the results are, if not suspect, not really predictive.
i think i heard singleton say 8 of the ks were looking? or is that wrong?
8 of his Ks were swinging. Only 1 looking.
ha sorry, dyslexia lol
Singleton wasn’t watching the same game then. I saw Markakis swing and miss at least twice and Huff was blown away on a high fastball.
Swinging
at least i had the numbers right
Girardi just said on WFAN that Hughes has volunteered to go to the pen. Which I hope then wait until much later in the season to do.
ugggggggggggggh he needs to stop reading blogs. idiots are making hi think thats good for him
Concur. I’d almost rather see Wang in the pen.
neither should be in the pen but if wang blows then i guess theres no other option at this point
Yeah, when Wang is on, he’s good for 7-8 innings every time. Let’s hope the ground master comes back.
No Hughes said he’d pitch anywhere to stay in the majors, ie. Justin Masterson
I think he actually needs to start reading blogs. We’re the ones clamoring for him not to move to the pen.
Although given the right circumstances, I could see why a temporary pen move would make some sense. Right now, I’m not in favor.
He was probably just saying that when asked if he would be opposed to going to the pen, he said he wouldn’t mind.
God No! Its happening again. Make it stop!
If Hughes goes to the pen and has any success we will start getting crazy MSM stories about how the Yankees need Phil in the 7th and Joba in the 8th to create the “super bridge” to Mo.
Twins spanked the White Sox 20-1, in Chicago. I hope there were refunds or free beer given out.
there’s that pent up aggression from getting swept in ny haha
I’m surprised it wasn’t 30-1! Gardenhire couldn’t wait to leave town.
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Im nervous about Wang with this… his stuff still isnt back apparently and this doesnt bode well for him.
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He’s been fine in his other rehab starts, The Yankees just want to make sure he’s 100 percent before coming back.
over on lohud… they are saying the yanks and the city unveiled the new metro north station today. Does that mean its in service? anyone know the details? im going to the game tomorrow night and would prefer taking the train down.
Not in service until Saturday. I was at the event today, and we’ll have a full post with pictures and station info up tomorrow morning at 9:30.
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oh sry about that, but thanks for the quick response.
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Good call I think this well make everyone happy and the future of the team’s good is now safe.
I’ll add to the redundancy with:
-This seems like a good idea, need to make sure Wang is back to pre-injury Wang, and Hughes having another start will hopefully give him another block to build on. He’s been uneven.
-I’d like to see Hughes emphasize the change when he’s working in AAA, since I do think he need another weapon against lefties. Not entirely sold on the cutter being his main weapon against lefties. When it works, it’s gorgeous; reference a swing and miss he got against Mauer. When it doesn’t, it’s on a tee, and an XBH waiting to happen; see Ortiz in the Boston series, and the second Morneau jack. (Obviously, you could say the same about any poorly executed pitch, but the problem with the cutter is that it’s 85-88 mph, middle in to lefties. As I said, on a tee)
-I’m wondering what happened to Hughes’ groundball tendencies. So prevalent in the minors, yet to really show up in the majors. Could this be a product of small samples, of him changing his delivery/repertoire, that groundball rates translate the same way walks and strikeouts do (not a 1:1 ratio between MiL and MLB), or something else entirely?
The way Yankees treat Wang is really unaccptable.
They actually think he is not ready for majors before summoning him up from 3A, why the unnecessary trip?