What the umpire saw

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“Yer blind, ump. Yer blind, ump. You must be out of your mind, ump,” goes part of the refrain from the opening number to the Broadway musical Damn Yankees. Don’t we know it.

On Monday afternoon, in the first inning of the final game of the Yanks-Blue Jays set, Derek Jeter tried to steal third with no outs in the bottom of the first. While we can argue — and have —  the baseball smarts behind the decision to steal, Jeter was seemingly safe at third. The throw from Toronto catcher Rod Barajas arrived at the base before Derek did, but the Yanks’ short stop snuck his hand around the incoming tag from Scott Rolen. Replays clearly showed he was safe.

Marty Foster did not agree. He called Jeter out, and the normally placid captain erupted at the explanation. As Jeter said after the game, “I was told I was out because the ball beat me, and he didn’t have to tag me. I was unaware they had changed the rules.”

According to Jeter, Foster, the third base umpire, actually said to him, “He didn’t have to [tag you]. The ball beat you.” Joe Girardi got himself ejected arguing the call and tempered his critique. “I didn’t care for the explanation,” Girardi said. “Just leave it at that. There has to be more to it.”

Of course there has to be more to it than that. It’s the rulebook. A player not forced out has to be tagged out. He isn’t out if the ball gets there first; he’s out if he’s tagged with the glove holding the ball or just the ball before safely reaching the base. That is not what happened today.

After the game, the press wanted to speak with Mr. Foster, but he pulled a cowardly move and didn’t show up. Instead, he asked John Hirschbeck, the crew chief and representative umpire to the press, to talk to the reporters. Hirschbeck was lukewarm in his support of Foster. He called Jeter “the classiest person I’ve been around” and noted that Derek doesn’t argue unless he feels wronged. “It would make his actions seem appropriate if that’s what he was told,” Hirschbeck said of Jeter’s reaction to Foster.

In the end, Hirschbeck said he’d chat with Foster about the call later and weakly called the whole thing a learning experience. “Marty asked me to handle things today,” he said. “We hopefully learn from our experiences. It’s the only way we get better at what we do.”

Hirschbeck and Foster will have their talk, and then Major League Baseball will probably discipline Foster behind closed doors. We’ll never know what happens, and the Yanks won’t get a chance to play out a game they could have won had the right call been made. In an age of instant replay, in an age of DVR, that’s just not an acceptable solution.

Umpires have long been under attack from technology. While traditionalists like to promote the “human error” aspect of a baseball game, the truth is that we root for our team to win fair and square. We don’t want to see the histrionics of the umpires, and we don’t want their perception of a play — the nostalgic idea that the ball arrived first so the player is out — to cloud what really happens when we know that what really happened isn’t what the umpire called.

Baseball has options. They could institute a form of limited replay review. Contrary to what the naysayers naysay, review doesn’t slow down the game any longer than Joe Girardi’s on-field protestations do, and reviews of plays such as the one at third today don’t impact the sacred integrity of the game — which, by the way, is sacred only because the technology didn’t exist when the first ump took the field.

While I see the merits in Beyond the Boxscore’s call to use pitch f/x to call the games, I don’t want to see the human element completely removed from the field of play. There is something to be said for having people and not computerized cameras call the game. Still, what happened on Monday and the subsequent explanations are not acceptable. Foster should have to face the press, and no team should have to put up with the explanation he gave Derek Jeter at third base today.

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  • ArodMVP217 Retire 51

    It is only a matter of time before someone feels brave and plays a bad call on teh jumpotron. And I can’t wait!

    • bxpd

      There was a time where regardless of controversy, a play would be shown on the big screen. I may be wrong, but I do believe the umpires and their union put an end to that.

  • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

    So of course nothing will happen…

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Nope, not at all.

    • Dela G

      i’m sure in addition to not punishing foster, they’ll hand us angel hernandez for the next 2 out of 4 series somehow

  • stuart

    they made 4 bad calls not 1. all against the yanks.

    the play at 3rd, the jeter play at first, the force play at 2nd on the jeter jump throw the guy was out, and the neighborhood play against the yanks in the 6th or 7th.

    4 calls all wrong all against the yanks, and zero will be done about it. zippo..

    that is a joke…………

    • Pete

      And let’s not forget the “electricity” call against Texiera on Sunday afternoon when he was called out at the plate and the ball was clearly in the catcher’s other hand, the one without the glove he was tagged with, the EMPTY glove.

  • stuart

    mlb network showed 3 of the 4 and agreed they were all bad calls. and the yanks get bupkiss for the mistakes.. to bad, get them next time, that happens, and other trite and untrue pablem…………….

    • http://www.retire21.org Mike R. – Retire 21

      ESPN showed one and said “Jeter might have a point”.

      • jsbrendog

        reason # 377839864 to watch mlb network’s mlb tonight and not baseball tonight

  • AsianShuutoHeat

    I honestly dont mind close calls at the plate.

    But if an official isn’t playing by the rules, why do we need an official like that?

  • TheLastClown

    Since there was such widespread oppostition to the replays in the first place, from a “purist” perspective, I wasn’t surprised to see instant replay, in it’s first MLB incarnation, confined myopically as it is.

    BUT games like this will build up & get the umpires to be able to review calls like the one in question.

    *I know that multiple bad calls were made, but if you want to keep the human element at all in baseball, you will have to suffer the occasional bad call. IMO not the worst thing, but calls like DJ @ 3rd are especially egregious, and they should go the extra mile to call it properly.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      That’s why I picked that one at third. When the ump flat out says “you were out because the ball beat regardless of the tag,” something is wrong.

      • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

        Don’t the umps get to pick and choose what to review anyway? They turned down a review in a Phillies game this year because they didn’t feel like doing one.

        Even if they don’t institute a bigger replay scheme I think umpires need to take more accountability for their actions. This and stuff like the Milton Bradley incident two years ago are terrible.

  • Little Bill

    It was a travesty and Marty Foster should be fired. Not for making a mistake, but for not knowing the rules. Obviously Hirshbeck knows the rules so it’s not a league wide thing. Marty Foster should be fired, period end of story.

  • http://www.richardiurilli.com/ Richard Iurilli

    I’m curious. If Foster did in fact call Jeter out because he believed that the throw merely had to beat the runner, and if the official rules do in fact require a tag, isn’t that call a clear violation of the official rules? Doesn’t that allow the Yankees to protest the game on the grounds of a rule violation?

    • http://www.puristbleedspinstripes.com Rebecca-Optimist Prime

      They could protest it, but it’d be hearsay. Only Girardi, Jeter and Foster know what was said and they all have a clear bias.

      • VO

        Obviously what you said was true, but I’m sure with all the modern technology and all the cameras that were there, they could find out what he said. Not that it would happen though.

    • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

      Probably, but I believe the umps get the final say in that too and would likely turn down the protest.

    • VO

      That’s a tricky one actually, but the game would had to of been protested before the next pitch is thrown.

  • bxpd

    Bad calls are unfortunate especially when they happen to the team you root for not once or twice but three times during a game which is ultimately decided by one run. The game is over and all we can do is move on.

    I’m not saying it had anything to do with the calls but is it necessary for the umps to wear shades during the game. One, the playing field is well below ground level, and two, the umps are usually looking down at the ground when making calls.

    Even for homerun calls they are not really looking into the sun.

  • nilnil

    Why cant coach call the instant replay like football?

    • http://www.retire21.org Mike R. – Retire 21

      Because the brevity of the game is more important getting it right.

      Saving 15 minutes >>>>>> Getting calls correct

  • Manimal

    Honestly, get the freaking calls right and allow full replay. Have the correct calls. 5-8 minutes to review a play is worth the right call

  • jim p

    At the minimum, managers should be allowed at least one “insist” per game. Sometimes, that’s all you need to change the game in a fair direction.

  • BigBlueAL

    You know its funny, but I would think umping in the MLB with all the replays actually makes the job of the umpire easier.

    Granted the age group I umpire are kids from age 13 through High-School so you see alot of plays like the Jeter steal where the fielder just flat out makes a horrible tag. But to me if the call I was making was easily viewable on Instant Replay it would make it alot easier to just make the right call. You have no idea how many times on tag plays like that I make the wrong call knowingly because its the call where 99% of the people watching, including the coaches of the team whose runner is called out, assume the call is correct and the runner is out by a mile even though I know the tag was horrible and the kid was actually safe but I will still call him out and not get a peep out of anyone.

    Of course I could give Foster’s explanation, which I do at times especially if the score of the game is not close or I get along good with the coach and he will accept my explanation and actually agree with me, but for a MLB ump to do so really is embarrassing. Like I said believe it or not I wish I could just make the right calls all the time knowing that in the end Instant Replay will prove me right and I wont have to make calls at times just to try to avoid any crazy arguments. To me having Instant Replay should actually make it easier and allow the ump to have the guts to make the right call on a play like the Jeter steal or any play at Home Plate where this happens alot too because in the end the replay will prove you right.

    The strike zone and bang-bang plays at 1st on the other hand I could do w/o Instant Replay!!!! LOL

  • guy

    what’s the old joke about the 3 umps getting ready for the game??
    something like…
    1st umpire says, “i call em like i see em”
    2nd umpire says, “i call em as they are”
    3rd umpire, the crew chief, says, “they’re nothing til i call em”

    one element of the beauty of baseball is that there is no objective reality.

    ah well… back to the lotus position to await the twins…

  • r.w.g.

    It was a bad call, for sure.

    Marty Foster wasn’t really in a good position to make the call either, as I think Derek’s body and Rolen’s left shoulder/arm kind of shielded the umpire from being able to see Derek pull his arm away from Rolen’s tag.

    That’s what I saw happen.. but to hear Foster say “the ball got there first and he didn’t need to be tagged”, I’m not really sure what to make of it. It’s sort of shocking.

    It’s not like this was an infield fly rule or a convoluted double switch.. everybody understands the force-out/tag-out rules.

  • MattG

    Consider this: it used to be that the only people that might disagree with an umpire were in a stadium. In that case, the umpire needs to arbitrate a theater production, and the players need to play to the back row. It was natural that the rule, in action, would be that if the ball beat you, you were out. This is what it looks like from the back row.

    Now, there are far more people watching up close on television.

    I don’t know what to say about this play, or the umpire’s reasoning. I think you need to respect the 50,000 people in the stadium, because to every one of them, out is the right call. I also don’t think little slight of hand movements are real baseball skills, and I wouldn’t like to see all tag plays become some sort of magic trick.

    I guess I am saying that perhaps Foster should be right. Perhaps, if the fielder is holding the ball perfectly still between the runner and the base, the runner should be out regardless of the tag. What Jeter did was nifty and all, but nobody saw it. I could only see it in a stop-action replay. As he sure as hell looked out to everyone in real speed, I support a rule in which he actually is out on that play.

    I wonder if such a thing is important for the sandlot. I remember far too many arguments interrupting my baseball games when I was a kid, and we (obviously) had no umpires. There was always the inevitable “he never tagged me!” play, which was refuted with the “the ball beat you, you we’re out!” argument. The fielders always won this argument, because the only people on the field that were sure if the tag was missed were the two players involved–but everyone could see the ball beat the runner. Simply put, unless the guy in the back row could see that the tag was missed, like Swisher’s silly slide later in the game, the runner is out. I like a game in which the rules allow for disagreements to be decided by something other than instant replay. I don’t think the goal is to get every call technically right–I think the goal is to make the game fair, call it liked it looked, and keep the game moving.

    • donttradecano

      1) This isnt a pickup game of baseball
      2) Sure to the 50,000 people he looks out, but its still not the right call. And sliding to avoid a tag is part of baseball skills… ever try to get your hand in around a tag?, its not easy.

      • jsbrendog

        +1

      • MattG

        I think it is odd that so many people are okay viewing a portion of a game in slow-motion and stop-action to see what happened. Don’t you prefer watching the game in real speed?

        I think that if 50,000 people think something occurred at real speed, they don’t need to be proved wrong by stop-action. I would write the rules so that the game is officiated as it looks. That means that if the fielder is waiting with the ball, the runner will almost certainly be out, if the QB was trying to throw the ball, its not a fumble, and if the defenseman reaches out with his stick, its a hook.

        But I don’t care if they get the call right. I really don’t. I want to watch a game at full speed, and I want the officials to call it what it most looked like. If they do that consistently, the playing field is fair, and there is little need for replay.

        But we can have replay for those instances when the guy responsible for the call did not call it the way it looked.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

          This 50,000 person argument is, no offense, Matt, pretty dumb. Who cares what the fans sitting at the stadium see from hundreds of feet away? They’re just watching the game anyway. If you’re going to compare numbers, what about the hundreds of thousands watching and listening at home who know the right call?

          If you don’t care if they get the call right for whatever faux-nostalgia reason, then so be it. But the fans in the stadium have absolutely nothing – NOTHING – to do with the umpire’s decision and his subsequent half-assed explanation.

          • MattG

            It is dumb if you interpret it that way.

            It is not dumb if you value seeing a game at live speed over seeing it in instant replay.

            You must accept this premise to agree with my point (much like accepting that there exists an alien race of hybrid robot-cars): it is more fun to see a game–any game–at real speed, and be reasonably certain that what you just saw happened.

            I would like to see officiating in all leagues dumbed-down considerably. I would like to make the rules so easy to officiate, the guy in the last row of the upper deck can get most of the calls right.

            Watching a game on instant replay isn’t fun. That’s part of why people spend money and hours traveling to see the game in person. We should try and officiate it without instant replay–and if that means changing the rules a little bit, so be it. The rules are not sacrilege–the game is.

            • jsbrendog

              “I would like to see officiating in all leagues dumbed-down considerably. I would like to make the rules so easy to officiate, the guy in the last row of the upper deck can get most of the calls right.”

              from 500 feet away? dude. come on.

              (although you will never convince me there is not an alien race of robot-cars)

              • MattG

                Well, this is a great example. That guy in the last row saw Jeter get thrown out. So did the guy in the first row. Everyone in the stadium did, except Jeter and Rolen.

                Before they install instant replay as a means of getting this particular call right, I would rather they change the rule a bit so that the call that was made is right. In my opinion, that would be good for everybody.

                • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

                  The guy in the last row saw the umpire make a hand signal for out. The guy in the last row did not see Jeter get thrown out. I’m sure the guy in the last row would rather give his team more chances to win and score runs and fewer outs due to some creative and wrong interpretation of the rule by the umpire.

                • jsbrendog

                  so matt, you don’t want to make sure they get the calls right based on the rules, you want to change the rules so that they make their calls right as it stands?

                • MattG

                  That’s silly. No one in that stadium, or on the TV, is waiting for the umpire to call the game. In they were, they would be better served to spend their money on a transistor radio.

                  You said before, “what about the hundreds of thousands watching and listening at home who know the right call?” Everyone of them (well, not the ones listening) saw Jeter get thrown out, too. If instant replay did not exist, hundreds of thousands of people would’ve said, “What’s Jeter arguing about?”

                  I am just presenting another option–one that is a solution for all baseball games of every level. Make that call easier to officiate. Make every call easier to officiate! IR only serves MLB, and it only serves those watching on television.

                • MattG

                  JS,

                  Yeah, I don’t really care if the call is right. I just want it to be fair. We should try and keep this stuff simple, because then the game is easier to watch, understand, and enjoy. And it is easier for kids to play without umpires.

                  Its only an issue because we have instant replay now. Guys have been out if the ball beat them for 100 years. Its always been a rule, its just never been in the rule book. So write it down.

                • jsbrendog

                  Yeah, I don’t really care if the call is right. I just want it to be fair. We should try and keep this stuff simple, because then the game is easier to watch, understand, and enjoy. And it is easier for kids to play without umpires.

                  this is outrageous when discussing major league baseball. kids and sandlots and pickup games have absolutely nothing to do with organized, regulated baseball. this is silly

                • MattG

                  Mmmmm, no, I don’t agree. I think pickup baseball and kids leagues have everything to do with MLB. It might be the #1 reason why baseball is my favorite sport–you can play a pick-up game of baseball, and use the same rules. I hope they try and keep things simple, because the more familiar a major league game is, the better it is for everybody.

  • Bo

    how hard will it be to actually do instant replay? You give managers 2 challenges a game and let them decide what play to challenge. It’s 2009. The technology is there.

    • jsbrendog

      agreed.

  • Tim Sherman

    The fact of the matter is that it was a stupid play by Jeter. He was already in scoring position with no outs. He cost the Yankees a run there, not the umpire. Far worse than the third base ump, in my opinion was the second base umpire Wally Bell. He missed two calls that were not even close and both ended up costing the Yankees runs. In a one run game, that was the difference. Jeter should know he shouldn’t be running in that situation. It was the first inning for crying out loud. Although the explanation was weak and the umpire in question was weak for not facing the press, Jeter was wrong for going in that situation. This was a sloppy game all the way around and one that the Yankees could have won, but in the end, didn’t deserve.

    • donttradecano

      Sure, Jeter shouldnt have been running, but he was safe. So the ump did cost the Yanks a run, and not Jeter.

  • jason Vasilakos

    anyone know wat the “magic word” is that will get u thrown out immedietly???

    • donttradecano

      im sure theres more than one magic word

      “your a fat blind asshole” would probably do the trick and thats five words.

      • jsbrendog

        yeah and any type of expletive or unflattering adjective attached to “wife” or “mom”

        • Rick in Boston

          Drop the F-bomb, you get run.

  • Just another Yankee fan in Cleveland

    No one forced Jeter to go. He took his chances and lost. Simple as that. The system in place has worked for 100 years because both teams on the field are subjected to the “human” element. What comes around goes around. Just because you have the technology doesn’t mean it’s a good fit.

    I hate a bad call as much as anyone but it’s part of the game live with it. The Yanks had their chances yesterday and didn’t get it done. Move on and play today!

    • jsbrendog

      yeah you’re right, football and hockey have had instant replay since the inception of their leagues.

      in fact, wasn’t the first championship beyween the original 6 hockey teams decided by a replay cause one of them was in the crease? yeah, of course.

      • Just another Yankee fan in Cleveland

        Since when is Football and Hockey the same as baseball? Nice try but not even close.

        • jsbrendog

          uhm, they’re sports that didn’t have replay and decided they didn’t want their games to be decided by human error so they instituted some form of replay to make sure there were no horribly wrong calls because the technology was available and it makes sense.

          so, you see, not only are they the same, but it only shows that simon and simon werenot brothers in real life but only on television

          • jsbrendog

            addendum: while limiting exactly what was reviewable so that there weren’t reviews of small minutiae for no reason. in football you can only challenge certain plays. in hockey mostly only goals are reviewable.

            • Just another Yankee fan in Cleveland

              Still a different game, all your sarcasm aside. Those sports are on clocks with regular timeouts and stoppage of the game. Baseball has it’s own unique tempo that doesn’t lend itself to replay. It also doesn’t have large linemen and other players violently crashing into one another which might make getting the call right difficult. Same for hockey only faster.

              Also you might want to be a little more tolerant of other peoples view’s. While I enjoy the debate why all of the hostility towards different points of view?

              • jsbrendog

                it doesnt matter that baseball is a diff game or has a diff tempo. it matters that every major sport, including the nba now, had instituted replay because they do not want the games to be decided by mistake. It is the smart thing to do. the technology is available and this whole, well yeah we lost in game 7 of the WS because the ump made a bad call that was so blatantly wrong but its cool, we’ll get me next year is ridiculous

              • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

                Baseball has it’s own unique tempo that doesn’t lend itself to replay.

                That’s another straw-man argument. Baseball can withstand a five-minute tirade from the Piniellas and the Bobby Coxes of the world but it can’t withstand a two-minute review of a contested call? That’s just not true, and if you’re worried about that, then limit the time available to review. If an ump can’t tell after 90 seconds of watching replays, the ruling on the field stands. It’s easy as that.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      The Yanks had their chances yesterday and didn’t get it done.

      As much as I don’t like Jeter’s decision to steal, I have to disagree with you here. The Yanks did get it done, but the umps called Jeter out and made the wrong calls on a few other plays that ended up costing the Yanks runs. Considering the technology is readily available so that we don’t have to live with it, why should we?

      • Just another Yankee fan in Cleveland

        Is the question here more about what Marty Foster said then what he did. If he didn’t say what he appears to have said to Jeter then it’s a bad call and we move on. The problem stems from a bad base running decision that put the umpires in control of Jeter’s fate at third. You don’t steal there and there is no issue. Never let the umpire’s beat you.

        If you have played the game then you know that bad calls go both ways. No one complains when we are the benefactors of a call. No one complained about Jorges fathom tag of Jeremy Giambi in 2001 did they? Wasn’t he out because the tag was “in the neighborhood” and he didn’t slide?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

          If you have played the game then you know that bad calls go both ways.

          I played the game. I’m fully aware that bad calls go both ways. That doesn’t mean we need to sit there and accept it. What’s the “playing the game” argument have to do with it anyway? That’s just obnoxious, always has been and always will be. As John Kruk proves on a nightly basis, playing the game does not give anyone special insight into baseball.

          I agree with you that Jeter’s decision was a bad one. I’ve gone over that in the game recap already. What’s at issue here is the ump admitting that he made a call based on something other than the rules of the game.

          As for the Jeremy Giambi play, there wasn’t a phantom tag. Jorge got him on the leg fair and square. No one even argued that one. Are you just making up this phantom tag allegation?

          • jsbrendog

            As John Kruk proves on a nightly basis, playing the game does not give anyone special insight into baseball.

            this pleased me

        • Spaceman.Spiff

          No one complained because it wasn’t a phantom tag. He wasn’t out because Posada was in the neighborhood, he was out because Posada touched him with the glove before he touched home plate.

  • http://www.twitter.com/MatthewHarris84 Matt H.

    Bad call, but…and this is rare…Jeter was wrong. A good tag and he’s out by a mile and people are screaming about how you can’t make the 1st out in third.

  • Count Zero

    So here’s the sticking point in my mind — do we really want to change things dramatically? Not saying “yes” or “no” — just asking.

    Couple of years ago in the ALDS, an ump called a guy safe at second on what looked to be an obvious force because he thought Cano took his foot off the bag before he actually caught the ball. My thinking at the time was (and still is): That always has been and always should be a “neighborhood” play and for good reason — if you force middle infielders to keep their feet on the bag on every one of those plays (even when the throw beats the guy by a mile), you will end up with a lot more guys injured by late slides, takeouts, etc. That call has always been made that way, and everyone knows it. If the throw beats the runner and you were standing close to the bag when you caught it, he’s out.

    Yesterday an ump ill-advisedly vocalized another one of these things that everyone knows: If the throw beats the runner and the umpire doesn’t have a good look at the actual tag, he will call him out on principle. Any of you who have played an infield position in your life know this is true. I’ve had that work in my favor and against me.

    Again — maybe these “neighborhood plays” shouldn’t happen. Maybe all calls should adhere to the letter of the law. But when that call went against Cano in that series, I thought to myself: “Hell of a time to start calling that differently than you’ve called it for my whole life!”

    I actually think the biggest mistake Foster made was to actually tell the truth and verbalize the “neighborhood” play. He should have just stuck with his bad call and gritted it out, and this would have been just one more bad call in a season.

    Personally, I’m not sure I want every call looked at by a machine to determine it’s accuracy. Sometimes, we get a little carried away by our need for correctness and forget that in the end, this is still a form of entertainment. What would baseball history be without the tirades of Martin and Weaver? A lot less colorful. :-)

  • Dennis

    The play at 3rd where Jeter was called out, but the replays show he was safe yesterday is the reason why baseball should have a replay challenge system in place. Girardi would have challenge that play and there was a good change that play would have been overturn. While Jeter did made a borehead decision to try to steal 3rd when your not suppose to make the 1st out or the 3rd out of the inning at 3rd base,the replays clearly shows that Jeter was safe.

  • Since59

    Instant replay to get the calls right – 2 challenges per game, would help to insure that the game is clean – All too easy to swing the game outcome on a couple of bad calls and make the game more susceptible to outside influences.

    AND keep a data base on calls challenged -who the umpire was and against and for what teams the calls were made, AND the betting line on the game.

  • Sam

    Baseball should try a challenge system similar to what tennis uses: where you can challenge as many calls as you want until you lose twice (or three times, or however many opportunities you want to give the managers)

  • Jeremy

    There is no such thing as a baseball purist, you cannot be a fan of baseball today and consider yourself a purist. The game of baseball in 2009, is very different from when it started.

    If you don’t care if the umps get the call right, stop watching baseball please for all of our sake.

  • j-man

    I can stand an umpire making a bad call. It’s part of the game. But when an umpire starts making excuses that make him sound lazy and ignorant and then doesn’t show up to the press conference, that is just wrong.

  • j-man

    and the plays at second weren’t close either. Wally Bell abused the “neighborhood rule”

  • Rob in CT

    I like the 2 challenges per team rule. I don’t like bad calls, whether they go for or against the Yanks (when they’re against, obviously I’m mad. When they go for, and the Yanks win a close one, I don’t like the idea they may have won unfairly). The umps are human and I’m fine with that – in fact, let’s really accept that humanity and agree that they make mistakes that are pretty easily correctable with instant replay.

    I don’t usually mind a bang-bang play at 1st, or even what happened to Jeter (I didn’t see it, but I’ve seen plays like it for years). I do mind egregious ones like the Bloomquist play a few years back. I do mind an ump who blew a call flat-out admitting that he doesn’t really give a damn if the runner was tagged.

  • rudsel thomas

    the umpire marty foster is a joker
    they must band him from baseball period

  • Joe Barone

    The same unpire @ 3rd base Mon, that made the wrong call, and worst his explanation that he (Jeter) didn’t have to be taged, was the same umpire who was umpiring home plate the day before when the catcher taged Texeria with the glove and the ball was in his other hand, what is he looking at?

  • Rudsel Thomas

    marty foster must be out off his mind
    With that ridiculous call

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