Apr
01

History on the horizon

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As Yankee fans, we’ve been privy to watching history unfold right before our eyes on a regular basis. Just last season we watched as Mariano Rivera became the second player ever to record 500 career saves while Derek Jeter climbed past Lou Gehrig to record the most hits in Yankee history. It’s just par for the course around these parts.

The 2010 season will be no different, though this year’s historical milestones may not be as sexy as some of the one’s we’ve witnessed in recent years. That doesn’t lessen their significance though, because frankly we’re in store for some really cool stuff. Let’s run it down…

Alex Rodriguez – 600 homers
This is the big one. Only six players in the history of the game have eclipsed the 600 homerun plateau, and the Yankees’ third basemen is just 17 away. As if that isn’t impressive enough, A-Rod will turn just 35-years-old in July, and none of the other players managed to hit their 600th jack before their 36th birthday. Of course, Alex is already the youngest player in history to hit 300, 400, and 500 career homers, so it’s only natural that he’ll be the youngest to hit 600 as well. He should have this one in the bag by June, July the latest.

But that’s not all. Alex is three stolen bases away from the 300 steal mark, which by itself isn’t all that impressive. However, combine the 300 steals with the 600 homers, well then you’re on to something. Only two players in baseball history belong to the 600-300 club, and you may have heard of them: Barry Bonds (762 HR, 514 SB) and Willie Mays (660 HR, 338 SB). Pay attention folks, this guy’s a walking history book.

Jorge Posada – 1,500 hits, 350 doubles, 250 homers
Posada’s coming up on a few big career milestones, especially when it comes to catchers. He’s twelve hits away from 1,500, eight doubles away from 350, and seven homers away from 250. He’s also ten games away from appearing in 1,500 as a catcher. Individually, those four milestones won’t wow anyone, but when put together, you’re talking select company. Just four catchers in history have picked up 1,500 career hits, 350 career doubles, and 250 career homers while playing at least 1,500 games behind the plate, and all four are either in the Hall of Fame or will be shortly. Posada is not only on pace to join them this season, but he also has a higher career on-base percentage (by 37 points (!!!)) than any of them.

Barring injury, the Yanks’ catcher should reach all of these milestones no later than what, June? That sounds about right.

Derek Jeter – 4,000 times on base
Times on base doesn’t quite roll of your tongue as easily as hits or homeruns or anything like that, but they’re just as important, if not more. The stat combines hits, walks, and hit by pitches, and the Yankees’ captain goes into the season having reached base 3,775 times in his career. Jeter reached base 273 times even in his down year of 2008, so reaching base the 275 times needed to reach the milestone this year isn’t as far-fetched as you may think.

Only forty players in the history of baseball have managed to reach base a total of 4,000 times in their career, and 32 of them are already in Cooperstown. The other eight a) will be in the Hall of Fame one day, or b) should be in but are held back by the shackles of PED revelations, gambling exploits, etc. It’s basically the forty greatest hitters who’ve ever lived, simply put. I suspect we won’t hear anything about this milestone if/when Jeter reaches it sometime in September, but you best believe it’s pretty frickin’ amazing.

CC Sabathia – 150 career wins
We all know that wins are a horrible way to evaluate pitchers, but bulk win totals are a sign of longevity when looked at over the course of a career. Sabathia is 14 wins away from the halfway point to 300, a total he’s reached in four of the last five seasons. Just for comparison’s sake, the Yanks’ ace will be 29 years and 258 days old on Opening Day. Roger Clemens had 136 career wins at the same age, and former Yank Randy Johnson (another big lefty) had just 55. 55! We hear plenty of analysts talk about how no one will ever reach the magical 300 win plateau again, but Sabathia has as good of a chance to do it as anyone in the game today. He should have win number 14 in the bag by the end of August.

Robinson Cano – 1,000 hits
It feels like he was just called up yesterday, but Robbie Cano is lazily closing on 1,000 career hits already. He’ll step to the plate Sunday night in Fenway Park just 125 hits away, and he hasn’t recorded fewer than that many hits in a season since 2001, when he was 18-years-old and played just 59 games in rookie ball. Now, 1,000 hits are more than most big leaguers will retire with, but frankly it’s nothing to stop the game and tip your helmet to the crowd about However, for a guy that constantly gets pooped on for being an underachiever and not living up to his potential and all that nonsense, I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out that Robbie’s 875 career hits have come in 3,036 plate appearances. In Jeter’s first 3,036 plate appearances, he had 824 hits. Wrap your head around that.

There’s plenty more smaller individual milestones that will be reached this season – Cano is 13 homers away from 100, Mark Teixeira is eight away from 250, Chan Ho Park is 77.2 IP away from 2,000, etc. – but of course some will get more attention that others (did anyone bother to point out that A.J. Burnett finished the 2009 season with exactly 100 career wins?). For a franchise so deep in tradition, we can sometimes lose sight of just how impressive some of these accomplishments are. The fellas wearing pinstripes never seem to disappoint when it comes to delivering greatness, and we shouldn’t take it for granted.

Photo Credit: Bill Kostroun, AP

Categories : Players
  • Accent Shallow

    If Chan Ho Park gets those 77 and 2/3 innings, something will have gone horribly wrong.

    On a positive note, if Jeter can hit .422 or so, he’ll get 3000 hits before the end of the year.

    • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

      If Chan Ho Park gets those 77 and 2/3 innings, something will have gone horribly wrong.

      He threw 83 innings for Philadelphia last year, and I think they did just fine.

      • Accent Shallow

        He only got that high because he started some games. I’ll stand by my statement.

        • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

          OK. So explain how him logging 77.2 IP would be a sign of catastrophe, if you don’t mind. He certainly could reach that total coming strictly out of the pen.

          • Accent Shallow

            He’s been a mediocre pitcher for a long time. 1.5 seasons of good relief pitching doesn’t change that. I also don’t think his recent success is sustainable — he didn’t give up a home run as a reliever last year, despite having an average-ish ground ball rate. He also doesn’t have particularly impressive swing-and-miss type stuff.

            Additionally, he’s been a starting pitcher for much of his career, and he made starts as recently as last year. I don’t want Girardi to be tempted to give him a spot start over Aceves/Mitre/whoever in the minors.

            I’d feel a lot better if he’s off the roster by July.

            • http://twitter.com/JamalG_BB Jamal G.

              He also doesn’t have particularly impressive swing-and-miss type stuff.

              What do you call a reliever that gets batters to swing and miss on pitches outside of the zone 35.4% of time over the 2008 and 2009 seasons, with the MLB average being 27.6%?

              • Accent Shallow

                I’d say lots of things can happen in small sample sizes. It’s going to take more than 1.5 good seasons in relief to convince me that Park is anything other than fungible, after such a long period of mediocrity.

                This is the last post in this thread I’m making in re: Park. I apologize for (partially) hijacking an otherwise interesting discussion.

                • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

                  all relievers are fungible. any reliever that has 1.5 seasons of success is great AND they could just as easily blow up the following year.

                  relievers are all fluid interchangeable pieces

    • http://twitter.com/JamalG_BB Jamal G.

      Alfredo Aceves logged 84 innings in 2009 and started just a single game. As a multi-inning reliever, I don’t see why it would be a sign of something unfortunate that Park amassed so many innings.

    • http://twitter.com/JamalG_BB Jamal G.

      In fact, there were forty relief pitchers across baseball in 2009 that pitched a minimum of 70 innings and did not start a single game (Aceves being one of them as he pitched 80.2 innings out of the bullpen).

    • paK_

      What are you talking about?

      Chan Ho Park is more than capable of pitching much MORE than 77 2/3 innings.

      Want to explain a little?

      • Accent Shallow

        But it’s unlikely he’s capable of pitching well for those innings.

        Can we talk about the odds of Jeter hitting >.422 instead of how much Chan Ho Park sucks, guys? Jeez.

        • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

          Heh.

          CHP doesn’t suck, and Jeter isn’t hitting over .422.

          • paK_

            ^^This.

          • Accent Shallow

            Wildly disagree with half of your statement, but I’m done with this conversation.

            • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

              You disagree with the Heh, don’t you.

              • Klemy

                ICWUDT and I liked it. lol

  • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ pete

    ya know, it’s a loooonnnng way off, and a ton could happen between now and then, but in just over 5 years in the game Cano will have had over 1000 hits and 100 HRs. If he plays at this level into his late 30s or early 40s (obviously not even close to being a given), could he not end up with 3000 hits and 300 HRs? Pretty damn good for a lazy dominican 2B.

    • Hangoverologist

      I actually think that Cano has an outside shot at being the all-time home run leader among second baseman (The record is 377) if he hits his prime now and gives us 30 HR up until he is 36-37 (assuming we resign him and all that jazz).

      • radnom


        if he hits his prime now and gives us 30 HR up until he is 36-37

        That is a HUGE ‘if’.

    • Accent Shallow

      FWIW, ZiPS has Cano finishing his career with a .291 average a >2500 hits.

      I could certainly see 3000 if he stays healthy.

      • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

        I’m not sure about that. He is a low-walk, low-K hitter for average that gets away with crazy aggressiveness because he has incredibly quick wrists and can make contact with almost anything. He hasn’t learned plate discipline and at this point it’s doubtful he ever will. He will have a number of excellent years but once the wrist speed that makes his approach work begins to go, he will drop off offensively rather quickly.

        JMTC

        • Accent Shallow

          But unlike someone like Soriano, where we may already be seeing what you describe, Robbie has impressive contact skills, so the decline may be longer and slower.

          • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

            Impressive contact skills have a tremendous amount to do with the quickness of wrists. So, as JGS was saying, it’s exceedingly likely he hits a quick decline when he can’t generate that kind of speed. He’s very similar to Soriano in that respect.

        • Rick in Boston

          My biggest fear for Cano is if he ever gets a wrist injury. We know the it really saps the power from a hitter, but someone like Cano who needs to his wrists could really fall apart.

  • A.D.

    Posada, building those counting stat combos that the voters love!

  • http://twitter.com/JamalG_BB Jamal G.

    Don’t forget Alex Rodriguez becoming just the 20th position player (26th overall) to amass 100 career wins above replacement (he currently stands at 99.1) in MLB history.

    • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

      That’s a cool stat. Is there an all-time WAR leaderboard? I’ve never seen one.

      • http://twitter.com/JamalG_BB Jamal G.
        • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

          Just wondering, maybe im showing ignorance here, but if WAR includes a defensive component, what are they using for past players? An average?

          • Thomas

            They include baserunning and defense (TZ). They say the total zone is very raw for player before 1954. If you click on the names, it gives a breakdown per year.

            • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

              Thx.

          • Accent Shallow

            CHONE’s WAR uses TotalZone, while Fangraphs’s WAR uses UZR. They may also use different weighting for offensive performance/replacement level.

            TotalZone is obviously not a play-by-play metric. Here is a primer on how it’s calculated.

            • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

              Fangraphs uses UZR or UZR/150?

              • Accent Shallow

                Well, UZR/150 is just UZR scaled to 150 games, right? I’d guess they’d use UZR scaled to however many games the player actually played at that position.

                Here is the Fangraphs article explaining the defensive component in WAR.

        • Mick the Quick

          I can’t take that list seriously with Jeff Bagwell at #35. WTF???

          • Rick in Boston

            Look at Bagwell’s career numbers – the guy was one of the best hitters in the game for a number of years.

            • Mick the Quick

              Yes he was but not number 35 all-time.

              • Rick in Boston

                B-Ref’s adjusted OPS+ has Bagwell tied at 34th highest all time (149).

              • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

                I CAN ONLY PROCESS LETTERS, NOT NUMBERS!!!!

                /ohgods’d

          • andrew

            You should go back and check his stats. 450 home runs, 200 stolen bases, gold glove defense. Career OPS+ of 149.

          • Accent Shallow

            That’s what happens when you have a non-precise method of judging defense. Still, Bagwell is in the top 100 at worst, right?

            • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

              Definitely. Possibly the most underrated hitter of the steroid era.

              • Rick in Boston

                If we define steroid era as post-strike, check out Bagwell’s numbers pre-strike. He destroyed the league in ’94.

    • bexarama

      CentWAR Centaur!

  • king of fruitless hypotheticals

    speaking of milestones, what would Robbie have to put up this year to win the triple crown?

    (oh, and tommie, don’t make any jokes using or playing on ‘ripple’ or ‘crown’ please!)

    • Bo

      april fools?

      • Buck Nasty

        Seriously, why do you comment on this site? You bring nothing to the table.

        • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

          truth

        • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

          He likes to annoy us.

    • pat

      He’s probably have to hit like .350+ with 130+ RBI and 40+ HR.

      • pat

        Aka, not very likely.

        • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

          yeah cano outhomering even arod or teixeira prob wont happen let alone them and carlos pena and maybe a dark horse or two

    • Thomas

      Last year in the AL, the leaders were .365 (Mauer), 39 HR (Pena – who got hurt, Teixeira), and 122 RBI (Teixeira). Both HR and RBI were much higher in the NL (average much lower).

      So probably like .340, 40, and 130 to have a chance and he still might be low on all 3.

    • delv

      I actually have A-Rod, rather, batting .325+ this year and having a good shot at the triple crown.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ pete

      a-rod healthy all year could mean 40+ for both him and Tex. Mauer’s leaving the turf, but with him, ichiro, jeter, et all, it’ll probably take over .350 to win the batting title. RBIs would also need to be in the 145-150+ range.

      Basically, if cano hit .355 (possible, but very unlikely) with 48 HRs (not. going. to. happen.) and 150 RBIs (also not going to happen – ATex are going to clear the bases too many times), then he’d win. In other words, he won’t.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ pete

        the only player in the AL with any shot at the triple crown is A-Rod, and only because he could very well lead in HRs and RBIs, and is a good enough hitter for average that he could feasibly randomly hit .350

        • Thomas

          I’d agree with that. I’d say the only two players with a reasonable shot at the triple crown would be Pujols and Braun in the NL.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        Mauer is also going to Target, which has practically zero foul ball territory and will play VERY nicely to lefties.

        He might hit .700 (but not really).

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ pete

          and will be playing in -193 degree weather for a month and a half, and no more turf. let’s call it a push.

  • paK_

    It really seemed like yesterday, when A-rod hit that 500th hr.
    Time flies.

  • pete c.

    Didn’t Mo get an rbi in that game too?

    • pat

      Indeed. First eva. Hard to tell which is more awesome. 500 saves or the fact that a 39 year old closer drew a bases loaded walk against one of the allegedly “elite” closers in baseball.

      • king of fruitless hypotheticals

        Mo: You an elite closer. I respect that. Oh…wanna see something more elite?
        Mets Douche: P()#@*$_#@()*$_@#()*_(*_()&^_$(%!!!!!

        • bexarama

          heh, I was reading some random Mets fan’s tumblr the other day, and it hadn’t been updated since like very early June, and it was all “YEAH WE LOVE K-ROD!!!!!” Heh heh heh.

    • king of fruitless hypotheticals

      run balled in?

  • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

    It feels like he was just called up yesterday, but Robbie Cano is lazily closing on 1,000 career hits already.

    Repeated for emphasis.

    • Thomas

      So you’re saying that if Cano had Larry Bowa busting him hard and making him give a shit, Cano would already have 1000 career hits.

      • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

        Yes, I’m saying that. And I’m saying that he would already have an MVP, be on the cover of an MLB video game, and have a national sportswriter write a column about him arguing that he only cares about winning if he had more grit, more hustle, and just a liiiiiiiiiiiiitle bit less pigment.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Robinson Cano with Larry Bowa=The Casey Kelly of second baseman.

  • mryankee

    Hey Verducci has this column on Jason Heyward and nothing about Jesus Montero.

    • Rick in Boston

      Do you read the topic before you post?

      • mryankee

        Not today I was fueled with anger sorry all.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Not today? Seriously?

          Not ever.

          • mryankee

            Well to me that type of article is an abomination w/o mentioning Montero in the same breath.

            • bexarama

              not really because Heyward is starting in the big leagues and Montero isn’t. I didn’t see the article, and if it was “the best hitters in the minors” and Verducci didn’t include Montero, then you’d have reason to complain, though not in this thread. But somehow I don’t think that’s what it’s about.

              I dunno why I’m bothering to respond.

            • pat

              Who gives a shit?

              • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

                this covered in this

                • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

                  The Pecker’s had it with SGBL today!

                • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

                  * SGBL and mryankee today!

                  Sorry, left that out.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Joseph Pawlikowski

      Dude. How many times do you think we’re going to warn you about off-topic posts before we do something about it.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com/ JMK the Overshare’s Mystique and Aura

        My money says three. (I don’t have a lot of money.)

  • larryf

    This year’s most important milestone # is 28…….

  • bexarama

    This list is pretty amazing. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, we’re all really lucky to have gotten to see these players on the Yankees. Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter are pretty not-bad at baseball.

    Isn’t Pettitte also coming up on 200 wins as a Yankee? And FWIW I did hear a few people talking about AJ’s 100th career win on the last day of the season.

    • Rick in Boston

      You are right – Pettitte is at 192 in pinstripes.

      • steve s

        The real interesting Pettitte number to watch is if he wins 6 more than he loses which would put him 100 wins more than losses; every pitcher who has achieved that stat and that was eligible for HOF election is in.

  • mryankee

    I like a milestone of 125 wins

    • Accent Shallow

      This is a damn good team, but that seems a little unlikely.

  • mryankee

    Yeah but that should be the ultimate goal. If they won like 125-130 games that would make us all happy.

    • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

      Winning 9-14 more games than the winningest team in history should be the goal??

      Why not 162-0, that’s a real goal.

      • Thomas

        I think (maybe hope/pray) he might mean 125 including the playoffs, since that would tie the record held by the 1998 Yankees.

        • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

          Heh. Guessing you’re a glass half full kinda guy.

          • mryankee

            Yes sir this team should roll right over everybody and if they do not heads will roll.

            • andrew

              Let’s relax.

            • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

              nope. no they won’t.

              • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

                Well, at least one will…mryankee’s. It will roll and loll around on his neck, as if his higher brain functions were destroyed.

      • mryankee

        There you go-Is that not the entire point of being a professional athlete to win every game? I do not like the idea of throw away games and I do not like the thought if you win 10 in a row you can lose the eleventh game and it is ok.

        • andrew

          I’m sorry to hear you don’t like that thought. It’s about the balance. what’s the difference between 160-2 and 110 – 52 if you burn out your starting rotation in September going for 162-0 and then falter in the playoffs because of exhaustion. I rather win 100 and the world series than run the risk of burning out the team going for unnecessary wins. If 162-0 were a realistic possible, i could understand going for it. However, it is not realistic. The marginal gains from an extra win or two (98 or 100), is probably not worth the risk of playing Posada 6 games a week every week.

    • Rick in Boston

      The ultimate goal is a World Series championship. If it means punting a game or two down the stretch to get guys rested for the run instead of a regular season wins record then so be it.

      • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

        Yeah, and in the division with 2 of the other 3 best teams in baseball, there is zero chance that the Yankees have to make that decision.

        • radnom

          They had the division wrapped up in time to rest guys last year. Don’t be so sure it will come down to the last weekend.

          • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

            I’m not saying it won’t be wrapped up. I am saying they won’t head into the final week with 120 wins and keep pushing to win games and extended their brand new record.

        • bexarama

          Eh, I’m not trying to get into a squabble here, but I thought that the AL East would have the three best teams in baseball, period, going into last year, and it didn’t happen. The Yankees were in a pretty good position at the end of the year to rest guys up. I wouldn’t say they “punted” games but they had a comfortable enough lead to give guys rest.

          • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

            Yeah, I misworded what I meant. I mean they won’t have to make the decision to go for the all times win record.

            • bexarama

              fair enough. As genuinely awesome as the 1998 Yankees were, they absolutely dominated the expansion Devil Rays to the tune of 11-1. Never say never but that’s probably not gonna happen with the Yankees and the Rays this year.

              • Rick in Boston

                The Yankees only lost 15 games in the division that year.

                • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

                  ::head explodes::

                • Thomas

                  The Yankees went 10-0 against the Royals.

                • bexarama

                  Again not trying to discredit the team, but this was pre-unbalanced schedule, so they played the Sox, Rays, Jays, and Os like 12 times each, not 18.

                  Still, that’s an insane stat.

        • king of fruitless hypotheticals

          didnt we do that last year? i seem to remember running out all sorts of second stringers the last month.

          dont want to trust my eyes tho…

          • Rick in Boston

            I think they did once the division AND home field had been wrapped up.

            • bexarama

              Nope. I remember some of those games in Anaheim after we’d won a spot in the playoffs only they were running out a lineup like they were TRYING to lose.

              • All Praise Be To Mo

                Yea, I rememebr that game, was there right behind the Yanks dugout. Almost got tossed by security for yelling at Girardi for bringing IPK in with the bases loaded instead of Hughes or Rivera.

      • mryankee

        There are no throw away games you get to paid to play and unless someone is in serious need of a day off professional athletes should be able to play every day.

        • andrew

          Why? Nowhere in their contract does it say they are being paid to play 162 games. They are being paid to be a part of the organization and help out as the manager sees fit. Yes, they should be able to play everyday, but most people have realized that playing people everyday is not the most effective use of resources.

        • king of fruitless hypotheticals

          they CAN play every day, but just because you can doesnt mean you should.

    • bexarama

      If they won like 125-130 games that would make us all happy.

      I’ll correct that for you. Some people would be miserable because they’d have nothing to complain about.

  • Rick in Boston

    Jeter’s going to probably own the following Yankee records when he retires:

    Plate Appearances (101 short of Mantle)
    Runs Scored (385 short of Ruth)
    Doubles (96 short or Gehrig)
    Strikeouts (244 short of Mantle)
    Steals (21 short of Henderson; and is 37 short of the CS record held jointly by Ruth and Roy White)
    DP’s grounded into (10 short of Bernie)

    • mryankee

      Pete Rose does not think Jeter will beat his hits record.

      • Rick in Boston

        I don’t think he will, either. It took Rose a couple of years as a manager putting himself in well past his prime to do it.

        • mryankee

          I think if Jeter stays in superior shape and he is in better shpe than Rose was towards the end of his career it might be possible. Of course Rose did not have the luxury of being able to DH when needed.

          • Templeton “Brendog” Peck

            no he had an even better opportunity. he was the manager and penciled himself into the lineup even though he was htiting like .200 or something and was blocking a better 1b.

            • http://mystiqueandaura.com Steve H

              Well Derek Jeter is going to be the owner, so he can hire himself as manager, bat himself leadoff to get the most AB’s and get the record on his 47th birthday.

              • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

                pretty sure player-owners are not allowed

                • Rick in Boston

                  They’ll change the rule for Jeter.

                • Thomas

                  Jeter is gonna own MLB

                • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

                  They’ll give him a blank check to fill out.

                  /Scout X’d

            • Rick in Boston

              This, to an extent. He pencilled himself in, but that team was 10 years removed from the Big Red Machine and still running those same guys out.

              The backup 1B on the 1985/86 Reds? Tony Perez.

              If anyone was blocking anyone, it was Concepcion blocking some kid named Barry Larkin.

      • king of fruitless hypotheticals

        Pete Rose does not think BETS Jeter will won’t beat his hits record.

        • king of fruitless hypotheticals

          dammit! wtf is wrong with my markup? it looked right on the preview…anyone?

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a The Large Sample Size

            You can’t use the <s></s> tags, they doesn’t work. You have to use the full <strike></strike> tags.

            • king of fruitless hypotheticals

              accurate adumbration…

              Much thanks.

  • CS Yankee

    The CC getting to 150 is interesting to me because we were to believe that Moose had the last chance to get there but choose retirement opposed to two more seasons.

    150 before 30 (or around) doesn’t seem to be on pace for 300 because they would need to average 15 wins per until the age of 40 (highly unlikely)

    The 5th starter and limiting studs to 32-34 starts per year was to cost anyone from getting to 300. So, if he misses out on 50 starts in this era (from 30-40 yrs), its still quite possible to get to 300 despite those less starts. What they don’t note is that quality can equate to a higher quanity (less starts but better product).

    CC is 80+ ahead of The Big Unit & 20+ ahead of Rocket…amazing that Johnson only had 55 at 30…..WOW!

    • http://www.soxandpinstripes.net JGS

      Johnson had more wins in his 40s than his 20s.

      • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

        Yay for old people!

        What?

  • http://cid-e3a022289d65b5c0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Assorted/foul.jpg Andy (different one) in chilly NYC

    Alex is already the youngest player in history to hit 300, 400, and 500 career homers, so it’s only natural that he’ll be the youngest to hit 600 as well.

    My conclusion?

    Alex Rodriguez murdered baseballmurders baseballs.

    • http://IztheWiz IztheWiz

      Finally, someone gets it!

  • C Montgomery

    There is one major flaw in the Jorge Posada 1,500 games, 1,500 hits, 350 2B and 350 HR.

    MIKE PIAZZA had 344 2B in his career, 6 short of the requirement. However, his home run total (427) and OPS (.922) are so far ahead of the others, he is in a class by himself.

    Leaving him out of such an equation because he is 6(!) short of 350 is ludicrous.