Nov
23
Update: Vazquez to receive Yanks’ only arb offer
ByContrary to initial reports, the Yankees will offer arbitration only to Javier Vazquez ahead of this evening’s midnight deadline. We had originally heard that the Yanks planned to offer it to Kerry Wood as well. The decision not to offer arbitration to Wood belies the Yanks’ concerns that he would have accepted and thus would earn far more than the team wants to pay their set-up man. Vazquez is expected to decline the offer, and the Yanks will recoup a supplemental first-round pick when he signs with another team this winter. The Yankees have declined to offer arbitration to Lance Berkman, Andy Pettitte, Mariano Rivera and Derek Jeter, but under the 2007 CBA, the club can continue to negotiation with any or all of their own free agents.
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Crap! I was hoping they offered arbitration to Kerry Wood. At least we got some value out of Vazquez.
Sounds like Wood would have accepted, and the Yanks didn’t want to sink that much money into the bullpen.
Yeah, I said earlier that it didn’t make much sense to offer Wood arbitration.
http://riveraveblues.com/2010/...../#comments
Yeah, thats a lot of money to invest on a guy for one year. I’d rather see them try from within and see if they can make a move at the deadline using another one of our 8 Zach McAllister’s.
I’d rather see them… make a move at the deadline using another one of our 8 Zach McAllister’s.
I’ve got my eye on you, Mike Gonzalez.
Also, if the Yanks really wanted Wood back they would’ve just picked up his 11M option instead of offering arbitration.
Again, just didn’t make much sense to offer him ARB.
I still don’t understand the decision not to offer Berkman arbitration. He didn’t want to come back anyway, so what gives?
For $15M or more he’d come back.
Considering part of the condition of him getting traded was that the Yankees do not pick up his option for close to that much I don’t think you can say that with any certainty.
That being said, I (and the Yankees clearly) agree that its too risky.
I bet Berkman is wishing the Yanks picked up his option.
I thought a condition of the trade was that the Yankees NOT pick it up. That condition would have been put in place by Berkman.
I’d say it’s pretty safe to assume that he wanted the option declined back in July/August because he wanted the freedom to hit the market and pick the destination of his choosing, but now that the market is here and he’s actually seen it and who his potential suitors are (and what they’d pay him), he’d probably choose the security of the arbitration payday over what the market would offer.
For instance, the rumor back in July was that he wanted the option declined so he could resign back in Houston this winter. Houston seems to no longer want him back, though.
His priorities have likely changed in the past few months.
Things have changed since then. Houston moved Carlos Lee to first, and who knows if Texas is even a possibility anymore. Plus Berkman’s numbers were terrible post-trade, which dampens his FA value.
At the time of the trade, Berkmans insistance on the option was reason to offer arbitration. But not now
Yeah, I’m in the ‘make the offer’ corner, but this was pretty obviously going to be the outcome. The Yanks have been very conservative with their arbitration offers in recent years, and to make the offer to Berkman would have been a risk.
At the end of the day, if the current news hold true (offer only to Javy), then all this excitement today was really over not a whole lot – in the end, the only offer is going to go to a guy who has agreed to decline it, it’s not like they’re exhibiting any change to their M.O.
Agreed completely with your second paragraph. Wrote just about the same down below.
Not-so-great minds, amirite?
haha, definitely.
He did quite well in pinstripes, hits for left handed power, loves Andy Pettitte, and would really LOVE to make 16M next season.
So no matter what he says, there’s always a chance he could accept.
It’s not about the money.
It’s about all the shit I can BUY with the money.
I assumed the Yankees had worked out something with Wood like they did with Vazquez. Disappointing they didn’t. This should lower the chance that they sign another type A free agent.
well at least we’ll get that supplemental pick.
the pick will most likely be in the back half of the supplemental round right?
Wow ballsy. I like it. IMO I think its less risky if Berkman was the one they chose but can’t complain.
I’m pleasantly surprised the Yanks are going to net a pick on Vazquez here. I didn’t think they’d risk him accepting the arbitration offer and didn’t know these “Gentleman’s agreements” happen.
I’d imagine that Vazquez is far along enough in talks with other teams (or perhaps has an offer already) that he’s comfortable letting the Yanks know he won’t accept. Which means he’s probably going to get a nice contract. He’s not walking away from 12M to sign a one year 5M deal elsewhere for example.
As much as I hate Vazquez I think he still has effective non-Yankee years ahead of him.
Why hate? if he’d quit on the team, I could understand it. Or done something stupid…but he just sucked. He tried hard, he worked hard, and he just couldn’t perform…why hate a guy who gave his all and came up short? Be frustrated with him, hate the performances he turned in, but why hate the guy?
He’s not my kid. He sucked TWICE and also sucked about $35M and Arodys Vizcaino from my favorite team.
I HATE him.
Avi’s sufficient condition for hateability:
“not my kid”
Damn, bro. You got a lot of hate in you.
Relax. Don’t get worked up over a fan saying he “Hates” a player.
You know it’s totally different than true hate. When we say we love Arod or Andy or god, I mean Mo, does it mean we love them like our spouse or family?
Stop being overly dramatic.
I didn’t think they’d risk him accepting the arbitration offer and didn’t know these “Gentleman’s agreements” happen.
“Gentleman’s Agreements” suck.
Sincerely,
Oscar Charleston, Josh Gibson, Cool Papa Bell, and Satchel Paige
So at the end of the day, literally, the Yanks only offered arbitration to a guy who agreed to decline it beforehand. Less excitement than originally thought.
What happens if no one wants to offer a first round pick for Vazquez and he declines arb? Will he remain a free agent until someone forfeits a pick?
he’s AB type..we get a pick regardless. Plus plenty of teams are interested in javy
its a pick between first and second round, mlb just creates it.
I really want Kerry Wood back. When I heard about the arbitration, I felt like it was Christmas. But I unwrapped the present and found a McDonald’s coupon.
I still hold out a slim hope. The Yankees are at least interested in wood to even think about it. I get that the cost is too high for a set-up man. So if they’re thinking he would take arbitration then there’s hope that wood might consider coming back to the bronx (even if not as closer). So maybe the Yankees have a chance to get him back in 2011 at a better price.
Puma would be good too. He can back-up 1st base & he hits well after his time with Kevin Long. But part of the deal was for no arbitration and Puma is looking for a full time gig. Would he be willing to be a DH? My guess is, yes, if he can’t get a full-time 1st base job. Plus, his friendship with Andy & the fact that he liked playing for the yankees (it rejuvinated him) & $$$$, may be enough for him to stay for a year and forgo his desire to play full time. It’s best not to arbitrate. Too risky.