Mar
30

Open Thread: Mo … and everyone else

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That’s tough to see, so I highly recommend clicking on the image to open a larger view. It shows the number of closers that each team has used during the Mariano Rivera era, which spans from 1997 to present (so 13 full seasons going on 14). Only two other clubs have used fewer than five closers in that time, and that’s the Angels (Troy Percival, Francisco Rodriguez, Brian Fuentes) and Padres (Trevor Hoffman, Rod Beck the year Hoffman was hurt, and Heath Bell) with three. The Cubs have managed to use eleven closers in the last 13 years, with the only repeater being Ryan Dempster. As if you needed more proof, Mo is awesome. (h/t Gleeman)

Once you’re done marveling at that, use this as your open thread. The Red Sox and Astros still have a Grapefruit League game to play tonight (on MLB Network), though all five hockey and basketball locals are in action as well, some against each other. Oh, and CC Sabathia will be on Letterman tonight, I mean it this time. Have at it.

Categories : Open Thread
  • http://twitter.com/bryanl26 Bryan L

    Calm before the storm.

  • Brooklyn Ed

    soo yeah, Brandon Belt made the team. can’t wait to see him rake, like Posey did.

  • http://www.richardiurilli.com Richard Iurilli

    So I’m pretty (read: SUPER UBER MEGA) excited about going to my first Opening Day tomorrow, but I’ve been looking at the weather forecast, and it looks pretty bad, and even worse on Friday. How long do you think the team will wait to play tomorrow?

    • First time lawng time

      Looks like it’s going to rain the entire himestand except the weekend lol. I’m sure they’ll get in though. Have fun at the game!

  • Total Dominication

    http://www.tangotiger.net/survey/
    This seemed pretty cool.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/iiKeane JobaWockeeZ

    Anyone want great analysis for fantasy baseball? Ignore those older Yankees like Teix and go get Ellsbury!

    And Cano won’t be the best 2B fantasy wise because laser show is coming back despite only hitting in a bandbox, despite his injury concerns and despite is worse hitting skills, he’ll be the motherfucking best.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      I saw this. I don’t know fantasy very well but it seemed odd even to me. Who’s gonna go get guys like Garcia (or Nova, unless it’s a very deep draft) just because they’re Yankees? If they do they’re dumb anyway. If nothing else, guys like A-Rod and Tex will get you HR and RBI.

      I also liked this:
      The Rays and Yankees are good enough to make the playoffs, but they won’t.
      I understand people saying the Yankees won’t make the playoffs, but neither the Yankees or the Rays? That is insanity.

      Also, Lowrie is made out of tissue paper. I know there’s a lot of risk involved with many players and Lowrie is a pretty good late-round gamble but him saying confidently that he’ll be a top 5 or 10 fantasy SS with 20+ HR is crazy.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/iiKeane JobaWockeeZ

        It’s possible he’s screwing around because at the end he was like feel free to bash me or mock me at Twitter but this is ridiculous.

        I knew the MSM was going to go overboard but after seeing SI’s AND ESPN’s rankings I don’t think anyone could not say that they don’t love them their Sox.

        If Kelly was still on that team the universe wold explode of how good that team will be.

      • king of fruitless hypotheticals

        guy drafted Nova in my league. yeah, its a 12 team league but damn…Nova?

        Me, I got Sabathia instead.

        /fatkidssticktogether’d
        /rltw

    • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

      JOSH BECKETT HAD A 5+ ERA LAST YEAR HE HAS LIKE .00000001% CHANCE OF WINNING THE CY YOUNG.

      • http://twitter.com/kschmidt2 Kiersten

        I need to stop reading baseball articles. They just make me really angry.

        • thumper

          Join the club. I haven’t watched a non-muted game on ESPN in almost 2 years. My sanity and blood pressure both thank me.

      • king of fruitless hypotheticals

        hey hey easy tiger…i need 15 wins out of him this year…

  • First time lawng time

    eVeryone complains that the Yankees are old. Fun fact: the yankees aren,t evn in the top 10. Number 1 is phillies and 2 is boston. The Yankees? Number 11. HA.

    • First time lawng time

      Boston 3 not 2.

      • Kevin

        The point stands.

        • MannyGeee

          Cliff Lee’s chubby wife just called and told you to go FK yourself. She pushed the Philly issue b/c she loves herself some cheeze steaks.

  • YankeesJunkie

    I am starting a league here a couple weeks in the season with the draft on April 14th (two Wednesday from now). This league is based off metric stats and is a 20 team league. With the draft starting a couple weeks in the season it will be a little different than most drafts as you get a two week free preview. However, here is the info and if you and/or friends would like to join it should be a fun year.

    Link: http://games.espn.go.com/flb/t.....eId=229055
    Password: Yankees

  • Januz

    The thing about Rivera is he makes it looks effortless. There are very few athletes who you can say that about. Even in a game where he is not at his best, he generally comes through (Like against Arizona last year).

    • http://twitter.com/#!/iiKeane JobaWockeeZ

      So he’s lazy.

      • MannyGeee

        LOL imagine if he tried harder or was ‘grittier’ like Papelbon? he would be the even better bestest pitcher in the universe!!!!!!

    • http://twitter.com/joero23 The Honorable Congressman Mondesi

      When I see Rivera and Arizona mentioned in the same sentence my blood pressure rises.

      • http://twitter.com/AnaMariana42 Ana

        When I see Rivera and Arizona mentioned in the same sentence my blood pressure rises I curl up under my bed and sob hysterically.

        FTFY

        • http://twitter.com/AnaMariana42 Ana

          damn formatting incompetence…

    • First time lawng time

      Too bad he couldn’t come through against Arizona in 2001.

      • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

        Murder his ass.

        • First time lawng time

          Can’t tell if you’re mocking me so let me just say that I was making a joke

          • king of fruitless hypotheticals

            I think she meant you not him, so…there’s that…

  • Total Dominication

    Some pretty good summary of the upcoming year by Verducci.
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

  • 28 this year

    My fantasy team, 6 team league, 2nd pick

    Batting Categories Runs (R), Hits (H), Home Runs (HR), Stolen Bases (SB), Walks (BB), Total Bases (TB), Errors (E), On-base Percentage (OBP), Slugging Percentage (SLG), On-base + Slugging Percentage (OPS), Extra Base Hits (XBH), Hitting for the Cycle (CYC), Grand Slam Home Runs (SLAM)

    C Buster Posey
    1B Adrian Gonzalez
    2B Dustin Pedroia
    SS Hanley Ramirez
    3B Adrian Beltre
    OF Brett Gardner
    OF Jay Brue
    OF Colby Rasmus
    Util Curtis Granderson
    Util Ben Zobrist
    BN Jacoby Ellsbury
    BN Elvis Andrus
    BN Gordon Beckham

    Pitching Categories Innings Pitched (IP), Complete Games (CG), Shutouts (SHO), Saves (SV), Earned Runs (ER), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average (ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP), Strikeouts per Walk Ratio (K/BB), Strikeouts per Nine Innings (K/9), On-base Percentage Against (OBPA), Hits Per Nine Innings (H/9), Walks Per Nine Innings (BB/9), No Hitters (NH), Perfect Games (PG)

    SP Roy Halladay
    SP Cliff Lee
    SP Tim Lincecum
    RP Carlos Marmol
    RP Neftali Feliz
    P Matt Cain
    P Huston Street
    P Matt Thorton
    BN Jonathan Sanchez

    The extra categories makes this tougher. Does anyone have any suggestions as to whether the bench position players should be starting over my starters?

    • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      Trade Elvis Andrus for another starting pitcher.

      • 28 this year

        The only problem is that every team already has a shortstop because there are only six teams. I don’t know who would want Andrus.

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      No offense and I’m sure it wasn’t your choice, but hitting for the cycle and perfect games are a stat in this thing? o_O

      • 28 this year

        yea its crazy, kinda pointless but kinda cool. And no, not my idea.

  • First time lawng time

    Does anyone here honestly think the Yankees will make the playoffs? I want honesty here not wishful thinking

    • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      Yes, of course they can.

      • Poopy Pants

        That’s not what he asked.

    • Total Dominication

      Most experts have them as the WC by a significant margin. It’s pretty likely

    • whozat

      It’d be ludicrous to say they don’t have a good chance. Might they not make it? Absolutely, but the odds are a lot better that they do make it than they don’t. They’ll acquire someone mid-season for the rotation and/or someone from AAA will step up.

  • First time lawng time

    World series predictions?

    • Total Dominication

      Red Sox over Rockies as it stands. I think Yankees trade for a good #2/ low #1 like Carpenter mid-season, which would make it Yankees over Rockies. For the record, I still think the Yankes are teh 2nd best team of baseball right now.

      • First time lawng time

        And the number 1?

        • Total Dominication

          I said the Sox in the WS predictions.

          • First time lawng time

            I’m surprised. Everyones saying the phillies are the best team in baseball

            • http://twitter.com/Carlosological Carlosologist

              The best teams don’t always make it to the WS. See: 2006 Mets, 2010 Phillies, 2008 Angels, 2007 Indians, 2002 Yankees, etc.

            • Total Dominication

              Really? Most projection systems have the Sox as better.

            • MannyGeee

              The Phils have major holes in their line up. like everyone past Howard and Victorino.

    • Monteroisdinero

      Yanks win it following the SF script closely with 20 year old Manny (Madison) Banuelos (Baumgarner) winning a world series game pitching to Jesus (Buster) Montero-who wins the mvp after a dominant performance since early June.

      • http://twitter.com/Carlosological Carlosologist

        Montero wins AL MVP? no fucking way.

        • Monteroisdinero

          World Series MVP. Sorry.

      • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

        You crack me up sometimes.

    • http://twitter.com/Carlosological Carlosologist

      Cubs over Mariners in an epic seven game showdown.

      • king of fruitless hypotheticals

        for what?

        • Sayid J.

          Last place

  • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

    Because of the airing of grievances thread, I would like to propose a Crazy Cheerleader Insane Optimism Prediction Thread right here. Hey, both SOSH and some other major analysis site (I wanna say it’s BBTF but I’m not sure) have a Red Sox Fanboy Dream Predictions thread.

  • http://www.twitter.com/astrophunq Dax J.

    Folks, quick question:

    Would you guys pick up Edwin Jackson or John Lackey on waivers? I had Johnny Cueto but he was placed on the 15-day DL.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Definitely Jackson.

      • http://www.twitter.com/astrophunq Dax J.

        My pitching staff is Felix Hernandez, Dan Haren, Ryan Dempster, Hiroki Kuroda, Trevor Cahill, Joakim Soria and Joe Nathan. If I pick up Jackson, what kind of upgrade am I looking at?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Not a big one with that staff, but he’ll definitely boost your strikeouts.

    • MannyGeee

      I grabbed Lackey when Latos went on the DL. Lackey WILL give you 12-15 wins on that team, even if the stats around those wins kinda blow.

  • first time lawng time

    http://sports.espn.go.com/new-.....id=6271653

    This Yankees team will have to earn its way into the postseason. It isn’t one that is built to dominate like those in the recent past. But there’s no reason to panic. They’ll be alright.

    I don’t know who this Mark Simon guy is, but he seems like a decent character.

  • First time lawng time

    I don’t know why but I feel a great year coming from aj.

  • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

    Does anyone have a link to the ESPN article or whatever that had the average age of each team?

    • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Matt Imbrogno

      Check NoMass. I think they did something on it.

    • First time lawng time

      http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/r.....rder/false

      this I different from the one I referenced above it has yanks at 5. But Philly and Boston ar still 1 and 2

      • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

        It’s probably the newest one including the additions of Colon, Garcia, Jones, Chavez, and Feliciano. Even still the average age of the Yankees is almost 1.5 years younger than the Sox

        • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

          Also even with Colon, Sabathia, Joba, and Andruw Jones, we’re only one pound heavier than the average weight of the Sox.

          Fatties we are NOT!

      • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

        The Phillie are still 1.5 years older than us AND they got rid of Jamie Moyer.

  • CMP

    Alfredo Aceves threw 5 perfect innings in AAA today and struck out 9. Not bad for a guy who was too injured to be worth $650K.

    • http://twitter.com/Carlosological Carlosologist

      Yawn. Let’s see him do that against MLB hitters.

      • MannyGeee

        lets see him do it against SWB!

    • http://youcantpredictbaseball.wordpress.com/ bexarama

      He also got lit up in ST a few times. None of it means much of anything.

    • http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H

      Bud Smith threw a real life, 9 inning no hitter in a big boy league once. Would you give Bud Smith, in his prime at 31 years old $650k guaranteed?

      • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

        I’ve thrown a perfect game on easy in MLB 2K10. Can you give me 650K?

        • http://twitter.com/steveh_mandaura Steve H

          If it was 5 innings I’ll consider it. 9 innings and it’s a done deal.

    • Accent Shallow

      The Yankees may have spit the bit here, but it’s too early to tell.

  • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

    Corey Hart to the DL. Picking up Brandon Belt and stashing him on the bench.

    • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

      and i just found out he made the team too. Awesome!

  • Kevin G.

    14 Team league:

    C: Mauer
    1B: Teixeira
    2B: Kelly Johnson
    2B/SS: Bill Hall
    1B/3B: Carlos Lee
    OF:Rasmus
    OF:Snider
    OF:Cuddyer
    OF:Beltran
    OF:Drew
    UTIL:Posada
    Bench:Overbay
    Bench:Montero (had to)

    P: J. Johnson, Haren, Feliz, Brett Anderson, CJ Wilson, J. Jurrjens, Porcello, Jake Westbrook, Anibal Sanchez
    Bench: Capps

    I know it sucks, lolwhatevs

    • MannyGeee

      not mad at your pitching… Posada as a late round grab is pretty cool if you need a catcher. I woulda skipped Overbay, but the Bucs actually look SOLID offensively, so you might get some blood from that stone.

  • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

    My finalized roster for a 12 team league:

    Normal 5×5 plus Total bases and Holds:

    C: Carlos Santana
    1B: Prince Fielder
    2B: Rickie Weeks
    SS: Elvis Andrus
    3B: Evan Longoria
    OF: Colby Rasmus
    OF: Andres Torres
    OF: Luke Scott
    Util: David Ortiz (yuck)
    Bench: Rajai Davis
    Bench: Brandon Belt
    DL: Corey Hart

    SP: Josh Johnson
    SP: Jon Lester
    SP: Brian Matusz
    SP: Ricky Romero
    RP: Matt Thorton
    RP: Drew Storen
    RP: Leo Nunez
    RP: Ryan Franklin
    P: Bobby Jenks
    P: David Robertson
    Bench: Jorge De la Rosa
    Bench: John Danks
    Bench: Michael Pineda

    Aside from a weakish outfield and question marks at closer, I’m very happy with this team.

  • Brian

    Letterman is late night television what CC is to pitching.

    • Brian

      *Letterman is TO late night television what CC is to pitching

    • Poopy Pants

      CC is severely out of date and stopped being edgy when he left NBC?
      CC is a winner, something Letterman isn’t.

    • MannyGeee

      CC has a fold out bed in the Clubhouse too??? AWESOME!!!!

  • Mike O

    10 team rot (I drafted 9)
    C-M. wieters
    1b- Mig. Cabrera
    2b- R. Weekes
    3b- A. Ramirez
    Ss- al. Ramirez
    Util- j. Votto
    OF- M. Kemp
    OF- A. McCutchen
    OF- J. Werth
    BN- C. Rasmus
    BN- I. Stewart
    BN-A. Hill
    SP-C. Kershaw
    SP- Z. Greinke
    P- M. Scherzer
    P- J.Hellickson
    RP- J. Broxton
    RP- M. Rivera
    BN- R. Romero

    So I have a dl slot open because of Greinke does anyone have suggestions in what I should go or suggestions in general?? Thanks!!

    • http://www.twitter.com/tomzig Tom Zig

      Michael Pineda.

      5th starter for the Mariners. Young guy (only 22 yrs old), electric arm. Pitches in safeco with a pretty good defense behind him. Won’t get you a ton of wins because of the deplorable offense, but worth taking a shot on.

  • brazilian fan

    man just saw something that made me sad

    Compared Jeter an Ripken in fangraphs (war), and the compared the two on baseball reference.

    Ripken by a landslide.