Mailbag: Aceves, Farm System, Texeira, Maholm

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Six questions today, covering topics from the farm system to potential draft picks to trade targets. The Submit A Tip box in the sidebar is the way to go if you want to send in any questions…

Aceves is the good looking one. (AP Photo/Winslow Townson)

Matthew asks: The success of Al Aceves in Boston got me thinking about how he got away from the Yanks. Shouldn’t he have had an option left? Did the Yanks let him go simply for the sake of a 40-man slot? Thanks!

Aceves had two minor league options left. He’s been good but not great for the Red Sox (2.60 ERA but a 5.34 FIP), though the longer he stays healthy, the more his non-tender looks like a total blunder on the Yankees’ part. Maybe the medical staff didn’t evaluate his back properly, maybe Brian Cashman misread his willingness to sign a minor league deal, maybe Randy Levine stepped in, we don’t know. I do know that it wasn’t a 40-man roster issue, he was non-tendered in early December when the Yankees had something like eight spots open.

Mo asks: What would you rate the farm system up to this point this year? I feel like its sucking in comparison to last year’s great run…

It was going to be tough to repeat last year’s success, almost everything went right in 2010. This year is much more normal, in that some things are going right (Ramon Flores, pre-brawl Slade Heathcott, J.R. Murphy), some are going wrong (Adam Warren‘s walks, Jesus Montero‘s lack of power, High-A Tampa’s everything), and some guys have gotten hurt (Manny Banuelos and Dellin Betances with the blisters, Graham Stoneburner’s neck). It feels like a down year compared to last season, but there isn’t an overwhelming amount of injuries or guys have down years, so overall it’s been pretty positive. An average year, really. That said, we’re seven weeks into the minor league season, so it’s tough for things to change much in one direction or the other. It’s still a top ten system.

Drew asks: Now that Kanekoa Texeira has been DFA’d, I think the Yankees should pick him up, I know the K/9 is down and his BB/9 are up but man does he throw hard. I think Rothschild could fix him. Agree?

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Heh, to say the strikeout rate is down would be an understatement, he hasn’t struck out any of 35 batters he’s faced this season. Texeira doesn’t throw that hard, PitchFX has him at 89-91 this year, which is down a little from last year. I’m sure most of you remember that he was in the Yankees organization for a while, coming over from the White Sox in the Nick Swisher trade before the Mariners took him in last year’s Rule 5 Draft. He ended up in Kansas City on a waiver claim last summer.

Anyway, he’s a sinker-slider guy that gets ground balls but not an absurd amount of them (51.9% career), and lefties hit him pretty hard. Texeira’s a fine up-and-down kind of reliever, better use of a 40-man roster spot than Amaury Sanit, but he’s not much more than that. Maybe Rothschild could fix him, but I’m not sure what he could do.

Matt asks: I was just wondering what you thought about Kyle Winkler. Most mock drafts and draft boards I’ve seen him at about 40, and he is probably rising. He’s so close to the Yankees that it’s possible that he drops, so what do you think?

Winkler, a right-hander at Texas Christian, has stepped in as the staff ace following Matt Purke’s struggles, and has struck out 96 while walking just 13 in 85.1 IP this year (1.48 ERA). The stuff is legit (sits 91-94 with the fastball, low-80’s slider, and a changeup) and he commands it well, and pretty much the only knock is his size (listed at 5-foot-11, 205 lbs.). Winkler is expected to go somewhere in the sandwich round or early second round, and he seems like Damon Oppenheimer’s kind of guy because he’s got command and pitched well in the Cape Cod League a few summers ago. He wouldn’t be a bad pick for the Yankees with their first selection (51st overall), but I’m not much of a college righty kind of guy unless we’re talking about the truly elite.

Matt asks: Andrew Brackman is not off to the best of starts down in Scranton. He’s already 25 so isn’t this almost a make or break year for him? Can you see him in a relief role?

I wouldn’t call it a make or break year, not at all. At the end of the day, who really cares how old a guy is when he debuts as long as he’s contributing positively? They don’t check I.D.’s on the mound, as the old saying goes. Brackman’s struggled this year (6.00 FIP), no doubt about it, but if he keeps struggling then they can option him back to the minors next year and keep working on it. He won’t run out of options until 2013 at the earliest. There would have be a lot of improvement over the next month or two for Brackman to be a relief option at this point, he’s got to show he’s move beyond the struggles and there are also some guys ahead of him on the relief pitcher call-up depth chart.

Yeah, Maholm is the guy that struck out Billy Crystal a few years ago. (AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

Bryan asks: What are the chances the Yanks pursue Paul Maholm if the Pirates make him available? He’s got a pretty good ground ball rate at 52% and also has a good xFIP at 3.77. Would he be worth a crack for the right price?

I’ve never really been much of a Maholm fan at all because he doesn’t miss any bats (6.23 K/9 this year is a career high by a decent margin) and his walk rates aren’t anything special (3.67 BB/9 this year, 3.08 career). Starting pitchers with sub-2.00 K/BB ratios in the American League have a hard time being anything better than average, historically. Then again, average doesn’t mean bad and he could probably help the Yankees. Maholm is in the last year of his contract ($5.75M salary with a $9.75M option for 2012 will be bought out for $750,000) and could give some innings, but I would hope the Yankees don’t bend over backwards to acquire him. They need another high-end pitcher, not another back-end filler type.

Also, while ground balls are preferable because they don’t turn into homeruns, we have to remember that the Yankees’ infield defense isn’t all that great. Mark Teixeira is fine at first, but Derek Jeter has the range of a potted plant, Alex Rodriguez is comfortably below average, and Robinson Cano has been playing with his defensive head up his ass this year.

Stephan asks: Tim Norton-seems like he’s legit. I’ve seen a little about him and his rehab around the web, but what are your thoughts? He’s gotta get a promotion soon(ish) right?

He’s legit in that he’s a potential relief option, but he’s no future closer or anything great like that. Norton’s an older guy (turns 28 on Monday) that was slowed by some major arm issues, but he’s obviously healthy now and doing a fine job of missing bats (14.5 K/9) and throwing strikes (2.9 BB/9) in Double-A. NoMaas interviewed him a few weeks ago, and I recommend reading for info about his stuff, back story, etc. It’s going to take more than 51 dominant innings (dating back to last season) for Norton to really start forcing the organization’s hand, but he’s definitely put himself on the map. A promotion to Triple-A will certainly be in the cards at some point this summer.

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  • CP

    Cashman said that they didn’t keep Aceves because they had significant concerns about his back. The Yankees may have made a mistake on his health, but it’s not like he’s pitching that well. His FIP is over 5 this year, and he’s only pitching well because his BABIP is .173.

    Besides, the Red Sox look to have made a mistake about Martin’s health, and I’ll trade a middle reliever for a starting catcher any day of the week.

    • Jericho Spade

      I think it is also because Cashman was pissed off that he broke his collarbone while riding a bike when he was supposed to be rehabbing.

    • Mike HC

      Yea. Far more preferable to guess right on Martin than Aceves. I guess both would have been better though, ha.

    • Ted Nelson

      Good points. Agreed.

    • CMP

      Your logic is totally flawed since one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.

      Even though Aceves isn’t pitching as well as his ERA indicates, he would have been a MUCH better option than the Buddy Carlyle, Ayala and Sanit’s of the world especially since he’s still relatively young with some upside.

      If there was even a 10% chance of him coming back from his back injury, Cashman should have spent the $600K to keep him. After all, the Yankees are spending about $7-8 million this year for LOOGYs with blown out arms.

      • Ted Nelson

        I think you misread the comment. It didn’t say the Martin signing justified the Aceves non-signing. It says that the Yankees may have made a call on Aceves health and were wrong, but the Red Sox may have made a call on Martin’s health and were wrong. Not even clear that the Yankees were wrong, since Aceves has been below replacement level. Martin, on the other hand, has been 1.6 fWAR, leading all Cs in MLB. The Red Sox Cs have been a combined -0.3 fWAR on the season. They made a mistake that cost them almost 2 wins this early in the season.

        “Even though Aceves isn’t pitching as well as his ERA indicates, he would have been a MUCH better option than the Buddy Carlyle, Ayala and Sanit’s of the world”

        Do you realize Aceves is below replacement so far this season? (-0.2 fWAR.) Carlyle’s FIP is 2.7, Ayala’s is 4.24, and Sanit’s is 5.11… they are a combined 0.1 fWAR. If you consider FIP to be the best stat for measuring pitcher performance, all 3 of those guys have done better than Aceves. Soriano has also done better than Aceves. Lance Pendleton. Boone Logan. The Yankees don’t have a reliever with a FIP as high as Aceves’ through this point in the season.

        “If there was even a 10% chance of him coming back from his back injury, Cashman should have spent the $600K to keep him.”

        I don’t know why Cashman didn’t keep him… I agree it doesn’t make much sense. The guy had options remaining. Maybe there’s more to the story, maybe the medicals looked that bad, or maybe he went with the no-injury risk philosophy a lot of people here often advocate.

        “After all, the Yankees are spending about $7-8 million this year for LOOGYs with blown out arms.”

        Now your logic is flawed…

        • CMP

          I don’t recall the Red Sox passing on Martin because of injuries, I read they made him an offer.

          “After all, the Yankees are spending about $7-8 million this year for LOOGYs with blown out arms.”

          “Now your logic is flawed…”

          I disagree. The point is the Yankees thrown around millions of dollars like it’s nothing as seen in Igawa, Chan Ho Park, Randy Winn and all these injured LOOGYs so $600K and a major league deal for Aceves should have been a non issue from a monetary stand point.

          I’m well aware that Aceves hasn’t exactly lit the world on fire this year with his performance but the fact that he’s healthy is the primary concern.

          If you take a look at pitch fx, his fastball has been better than it’s ever been but his command has been off as he’s walking more and striking out less however considering he’s hardly pitched in the last 2 years, I’m sure he’s shaking off some rust.
          If he stays healthy, I’m pretty confident that his FIP will improve.

          Ayala and Carlyle are older journeyman pitchers who haven’t pitched effectively in the majors for years while Aceves is still only 28 with upside so to compare what they’ve done to Aceves after 10-15 innings really isn’t relevant.

          My basic point is Aceves should at least be in Scranton if not in the Yankees bullpen right now unless Cashman was certain beyond any doubt that he was physically unable to do so because he was cheap, he has ability and he’s suceeded in NY in the past pitching well out of the pen and he also did very well in the upper minor leagues as a starter. For a team that has been scavanging the scrap heap for pitchers, it seems like a pretty foolish and totally avoidable mistake.

          • cr1

            According to Pete Abraham, NYY FO didn’t like Aceves’ uppity attitude — thought he acted like someone with more service time and a bigger contract.

            To me that seems to be increasingly an FO view — smack down or get rid of the ‘overconfident’, with short shrift for the notion that extreme confidence boosts a player’s performance. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn’t… but we know it makes them less likely to kiss posterior.

            • Ted Nelson

              Uppity could mean more than confidence… it could mean they thought he wasn’t putting in the effort to make a successful comeback. I wouldn’t speculate too far into character concerns if all you have is an adjective describing the player.

          • CP

            Peter Gammons passed on the information that the Red Sox considered Russell Martin ‘unsignable’ because of his health issues. It was in a radio spot, but here is a post that mentions it:


            I agree with the thought that they made a mistake in not keeping Aceves. It seems like it would have cost so little to keep him around. My point was just that all teams make mistakes on injuries and I’d much rather have the mistake be with a middle reliever than a catcher.

            • CMP

              I agree with your point that a starting catcher has MUCH more value than a relief pitcher.

          • Ted Nelson

            The Red Sox didn’t extend Martin a contract that he took… seeing as he signed for only $4 mill with the Yankees and would have upgraded their weakest position (even if he wasn’t this hot, he still would be an upgrade over their Cs)… it looks like a mistake. A much bigger mistake than not holding only Aceves.

            The Yankees didn’t have to sign Aceves to a MLB deal, because he was already under team control. I don’t know exactly why they didn’t keep him, but so far it really doesn’t seem like much of a loss.

            I’m not saying they should have let Aceves go, but I just don’t think it’s even a big enough deal to mention at this point. It looks comparable to losing AJax last season and him getting really lucky.

            “the Yankees thrown around millions of dollars like it’s nothing”

            They’ve made decisions based on the information they had. The fact that healthy pitchers they acquired later got hurt is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Aceves wasn’t healthy, and the Yankees decided he wasn’t worth keeping. So far the results are mixed, but point to him getting really, really lucky.

            “the fact that he’s healthy is the primary concern.”

            If he’s healthy enough to pitch but not healthy enough to pitch well, it’s all good? The Yankees didn’t decide Aceves wasn’t going to be healthy enough to throw the ball at the plate, they decided he wasn’t going to be able to do it well. His results are mixed at best and he’s been healthy for a couple of months… if he goes on the DL next week and never pitches again, the Yankees made the right call. If his ERA regresses to his FIP level… the Yankees made the right call. We’re a couple months into this thing. Perhaps they were wrong, but it’s still early to decide that definitively.

            “Ayala and Carlyle are older journeyman pitchers who haven’t pitched effectively in the majors for years”

            And they’ve been getting mostly low-leverage innings. How many high leverage innings would Aceves have gotten behind Mo, Soriano, Chamberlain, D-Rob, Logan, Colon (long-man early)? It’s probably really a marginal difference we’re talking about, if any difference at all. Indications are that Aceves has gotten lucky not to surrender more runs that he has. If he were on the Yankees rather than Sox, perhaps his ERA would match his FIP.

            • CMP

              I don’t really care about the Red Sox making mistakes. That’s their fans problem, not mine.

              You can’t really evaluate Aceves until his body of work increases and we see if he stays healthy so to see he losing him isn’t a big loss is premature.

              I agree that Aceves presence in NY would not have changed the standing one bit up to this point but the potential for him to pitch high leverage innings out of the pen or even start down the road certainly exists and you definitely cannot say that about Ayala or Carlyle.

              • Ted Nelson

                Since the Yankees compete with the Red Sox to make the playoffs and possibly in the playoffs to make the World Series… it is your concern. The Yankees directly benefited from the Red Sox not bidding them up higher or signing Martin.

                Exactly. That’s what I’m saying. This is a small sample.

                I don’t know why they got rid of Aceves, and don’t necessarily think it was a smart move (though I’m not going to say it’s dumb without knowing what went into the decision). Ayala and Carlyle are really placeholders, though. For injured guys like Feliciano and Marte, as well as prospects who the Yankees don’t feel are ready yet. You can say that upside of pitching high leverage innings exists for guys like Feliciano, Marte, Colon (who opened the season in the pen), Pendleton, Noesi, Phelps, Warren, Brackman, etc.

                • CMP

                  Bottom line is time will tell about Aceves. Maybe his ERA will regress to his FIP or maybe he’ll get hurt.

                  Fact is so far he has been healthy and while he’s been lucky too, he has been throwing the ball well.

                  I just can’t see why Cashman would take a chance by letting a talented and relatively young pitcher walk away for chump change though.

  • Jericho Spade

    MIke, if Matt Purke falls to the Yankees do they take him no question, just because of the upside if his shoulder returns to normal? It is obviously a gamble, but at 51, no other talent will fall that is equal to his.

    • Mike Axisa

      He’s going to pitch this weekend and will make three or so starts before the draft, so if he looks good, then sure.

      • CP

        But if he looks good wouldn’t someone likely take him earlier?

        • Mike Axisa

          Yep, such is life. Shoulders are scary, if he looks like crap these next two weeks, I don’t think it’s a worthwhile gamble in the first round in a draft this deep.

          • Ted Nelson

            Definitely depends who else is on the board, how he pitches in the next two weeks, and what his medicals show… but I think you also have to consider that the average guy taken around #51 is not going to work out. That the odds are against any healthy guy you take there ever doing much or even being worth much in a trade. It’s possible that even after accounting for the shoulder, you estimate Purke has a better probability of working out than anyone else on the board. Of course, it’s also very possible you don’t… And also you have to consider that the kid you like the most might be a Betances or Mason Williams type you’re confident will be there later, so you take Purke to see how he does in Cape Cod before deciding if you’ll sign him and still feel confident you’ll get your guy in a later round. Purke is also less attractive since he’s got two more cracks at the draft and agreed to a $6 mill deal out of HS, of course.

            • Ted Nelson

              Some crude math to show what I mean… say (hypothetically) the Yankees viewed Purke as a top 5 talent entering the season with maybe, making this up, a 40-60% chance of working out. Say they think his shoulder is 50-50… if it’s bad he obviously has a 0% chance and if it’s good he’s at the healthy 40-60%. His odds, then, are about 20-30% of working out. If the average guy around #51 historically works out maybe 15-20% of the time… Purke could still be an attractive choice. (Of course it still depends who else is available and what the Yankees think of them.)

              Totally unscientific with made up numbers across the board, just to illustrate how Purke could hypothetically make sense.

  • Steve H

    If the Yankees had re-signed Aceves and had him on the Opening Day roster, who isn’t here? Colon? Garcia? Maybe (doubtful) they send Nova to the minors? I would have liked them to find a way to keep Aceves, but not at the expense of a Colon or a Garcia.

    • Mike Axisa

      Luis Ayala.

      • Clay Bellinger

        Ah, just beat me.

      • Steve H

        I’ll go sit in a corner now.

    • Clay Bellinger

      Luis Ayala?

      • Steve H

        Though as you pointed out below, the assumption was that Feliciano would have Ayala’s spot, so there truly wasn’t a spot for Aceves on a big league deal without knowing Feliciano would be out.

        • Mike Axisa

          We could play this game all day, but if Aceves comes back, maybe there’s no Soriano.

          • Clay Bellinger

            That sounds nice.

            • Steve H

              Yeah, I’d rather have the injury prone guy at $850k than $35 million while losing a 1st rounder.

          • Mike HC

            That was my first thought. I supported the Soriano deal, clearly erroneously, and Aceves could have been twice as good for like a tenth of the price.

            • CP


              Aceves FIP in 2011: 5.32
              Soriano FIP in 2011: 4.83

              • Mike HC

                If you are implying that Aceves has just been lucky, then equally crappy for a 10th of the price is still preferable.

                • Ted Nelson

                  Soriano was signed for 3 years, though, and it hasn’t been 3 months yet… The Granderson deal, for example, looked mediocre at best last season and looks a whole lot better this season. Deciding a decision was bad this early into it is tough…

                  • Ted Nelson

                    The Soriano/Granderson vs. Aceves/AJax parallel seems pretty apt, actually. The stats point to luck for the departed player, and the added player seems like a superior baseball player having bad luck in both cases.

                  • Mike HC

                    Good call. You are right. At the time of the signing, the people against it were saying that the people that loved the signing now would be the first ones to throw him under the bus when his first couple of outings don’t go that well. I guess they were proven right when it came to me, ha. Truth hurts sometimes. Long season.

          • AndrewYF

            I don’t think Randy Levine signed Soriano as a replacement for Aceves.

            • Mike HC

              It is just the strategy of building your bullpen taking low cost chances on guys, rather than pay big money. The paying big money for reliever thing has not worked out as of late for the Yanks. See Soriano, Marte and Feliciano.

              • Clay Bellinger

                That big money/long term relief thing doesn’t appear to work enough for anyone. For example, the Angels have had their issues with it too.

        • Clay Bellinger

          Yep, at the time they really couldn’t give him the guaranteed deal he wanted.

        • Ted Nelson

          Did Aceves have any options remaining?

          • Rick in Boston

            According to Mike’s post, he had/has two remaining.

            • Ted Nelson

              Good call. They didn’t need an MLB roster spot for him, then…

        • Thomas

          Assuming the Yankees kept Aceves, they probably would have still signed Feliciano, Soriano, Ayala, Garcia, and Colon. I’d guess the Yankees assumption would be either Aceves would start the year on the DL or he’d compete with Garcia, Colon, Nova, and Mitre for the final two starter spots and the long man. The Yankees would then assume that the roster crunch would sort itself out via injuries (Feliciano), cutting ineffective players (such as Mitre and later Millwood), or possibly demoting players.

          Signing Feliciano and Soriano would have happen anyways, because parts of the FO wanted to shore up the final innings.

    • Mike HC

      I agree. You can’t keep everyone. We took a chance on Martin’s health that other teams were not willing to take. We didn’t take a chance on Aceves because there were other low cost pitching options out there that were healthy (little did we know one of them had the future of surgery).

      • Clay Bellinger

        Yes, this is true. If Feliciano was healthy Ayala wouldn’t have been on the 25 man either so there may not have really been a spot for Ace.

        • Ted Nelson

          There would have been a spot in Scranton.

          • Clay Bellinger

            Yes, this is true.

  • Reggie C.

    Purke may be the hands down best DES available this year, but are their any other des worthy of a 51st selection? Mlb video on Purke labeled him as a finesse guy. How is Purke any different than that kid from Stanford drafted three or four years ago.

    • Ted Nelson

      That the same adjective was used to describe two guys doesn’t mean they’re the same guy…

  • mike

    No brainer to keep Aceves, especially with options – and especially since the Yanks have likely spent as much on Millwood and Silva, both of whom have yet to even have pitched in the majors this year.

    While Aceves has not pitched that well, his experience, track record and versatility would be a nice option to have for Girardi

    • Mike

      I agree that Aceves hasn’t pitched that well. How can you justify holding on to a guy with a 2.60 era and a 1.04 whip. We don’t really need a guy like that.

  • Lyn

    What I find more frustrating than Aceves is where they keep someone like Buddy Carlyle or Amaury Sanit on the team while they have much better relief candidates in Scranton (e.g., Kontos or Whelan). Carlyle already cost them one game that could come back to haunt them.

    • Ted Nelson

      Carlyle’s ERA through 6 innings is 2.7 and his FIP is 2.75… how do you know Kontos or Whelan could do better than that against MLB competition?

  • Gonzo

    They don’t check I.D.’s on the mound, as the old saying goes.

    Tell that to Depaula and Paniagua. Zing!

  • JD

    Good answer on Brackman but we need to better understand why he is not performing well.

    • S

      He basically missed all of ST due to injury, so my guess is that the rust from the beginning of the year combined with a very lanky 6’11 body has screwed up his mechanics to such a degree that it might take a while to get his body back in synch again.

      My philosophy for Brackman was that the first month and a half of the AAA season is his ST, and June will be the time we need to start paying attention to his struggles.


    Hey, Mike, in pointing out what has been going right in the Yankees minor league system this year, you failed to point out the biggest bright spot!!! Jorge Chato Vazquez!!! You are right, Montero has dissapointed with his power, but still all I hear is he should be brought up! Why doesnt Vazquez get any respect. He is leading the league in hr, rbi, tb, slg(by over 50pts!) and OPS. third in runs and hits, and not even bad in the walks, tied for 17th. Montero has 2hr and a few rbis. yeah he is hitting .318, but Chato is at .308. Jorge is on pace for 60+HR’s and 150rbi!! He has earned his call up right now!! Heathcott, Murphy, Montero, Maxwell, blah, blah, blah. And Pena and Dickerson get call ups before him!! That is just shamefull!! El Destructor will be a star in the Majors.

    • the tenth inning stretch

      You’re actually Jorge Vazquez, aren’t you?

  • Jim

    Question about what the “Loud Mouths” said about Posada at first base yesterday….that they were trying to get Jorge hurt. I think if that was the case, I’d let him catch instead of using Cervelli. He’s gotten hurt behind the dish the last two years so why not go for the trifecta? As far as catching, why didn’t Girardi leave Martin behind the plate and use Cervelli at third…he played there last year? I keep hearing Jones’ name brought up. Jorge’s average is only 20 pts back of him. As to why Vazquez isn’t brought up…I’ll bring up two points: 1) I think he leads the AAA in strikeouts. 2) I remember Girardi’s remark in spring training when he was hitting well…”Then he’ll be the MVP in Florida”. I think playing first, third, DH, and power is worth the risk…find a spot on the forty and bring him up.


      Actually Chato is third in K’s, Maxwell is like 20 ahead of him!! But I said before, if you have a high average, a K is the same as a groundout. If K’s were such a problem, Howard, Nelson Cruz, Dunn, would never have gotten their shots. I would have taken the K’s insteasd of Pena’s bat a couple weeks ago!! And I would have taken the K’s instead of Dickersons .240avg and 1hr in AAA!! I just dont get it!!! I think they are waiting until June to keep down his service time. I dont know…All I know is he deserves his shot!!!! Keep kicking butt Chato, Yankees brass have got to wake up soon!!

      • Ted Nelson

        “if you have a high average, a K is the same as a groundout”

        Not entirely. A runner can often advance on a groundout with less than two out, and I have to assume a fielding error is a lot more likely than a slower runner like JoVa reaching on a K/passed-ball. Then again a ground-out will result in a double-play more often than a strike em out throw em out I’m sure. It’s not the same thing, though I agree that if a player produces you live with the Ks. Producing against AAA pitching doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll produce against MLB pitching, though. It doesn’t mean you won’t, either. JoVa just does not project to be a star in MLB, though. That’s outlandishly optimistic.

        “I would have taken the K’s insteasd of Pena’s bat a couple weeks ago!!”

        I don’t believe Pena has made a single PA. They might have been doing JoVa a favor by not bringing him up to ride the bench and throw his hitting out of rhythm.

        “I would have taken the K’s instead of Dickersons .240avg and 1hr in AAA!!”

        Dickerson was brought up specifically for his ability to play OF… something JoVa doesn’t do.

        “All I know is he deserves his shot!!!! Keep kicking butt Chato, Yankees brass have got to wake up soon!!”

        I think he’ll get his shot in due time. The Yankees brass is awake to how seldom players like him work out.

    • Ted Nelson

      Total speculation, but my guess was that they wanted to get Jorge into the field since he’s struggled with the DH role… maybe being involved defensively would get him going offensively…

      Martin at 3B, Cervelli at 3B… I don’t know if it really matters. Martin has been catching a lot, so getting him an inning off is good. That was my thought on the move. Martin started 8 games at 3B in 2008 and played in a total of 12 there for the Dodgers.

      I think Vazquez will get a shot eventually. I’d rather have him up than Pena, but at the same time it’s a very limited role Pena is playing, I don’t think you eat into Jorge/Jones’ PAs with Chato at this point, and he might be better off continuing to hit everyday in Scranton at this point than getting a PA a week in NY.

    • Clay Bellinger

      Not sure who the Loud Mouths are, but the idea they were trying to get him hurt is insane. There’s 0% that was their motive.

  • Jim

    Loud Mouths///Chris Carlin and Adam Scheine on SNY.

  • Mike

    Ok, we blew it on Aceves but at least we still have Hughes. I still think he can go to the pen like Joba after his failure as a starter.