Aug
10

King: Yankees place Ichiro, Brendan Ryan on trade waivers

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Via George King: The Yankees have placed Ichiro Suzuki and Brendan Ryan on trade waivers. The report is from Thursday, so both waiver periods likely expired already. Brett Gardner, Stephen Drew, and Martin Prado have already cleared trade waivers. As a reminder, trade waivers are completely revocable and the players can be pulled back if claimed. Friday’s mailbag had a trade waiver primer.

Teams put just about all of their players on trade waivers in August and it does not necessarily mean they are trying to trade them. Ichiro has value as a fourth outfielder and I don’t see him going anywhere at all, though I wonder if the Yankees would look to unload Ryan and the two years left on his contract (well, one year plus a player option) like they did Matt Thornton last week. Middle infielders are hard to find though, especially good fielding ones, so probably not.

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  • TRR

    Ryan’s abilities as a fielder have deteriorated over the last few years; I’d certainly be OK with letting him go.

    • cp7ny

      I agree plus finding a back up middle infielder with not much of a bat is not that hard to find.

      • LazerTown

        But why find a new one, when you already have one?

        It’s not like he will bring back a real prospect, and you don’t make a move just for the fun of it. There isn’t much upside in trading him, I doubt you can find one much cheaper to replace him.

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    I wonder if they’d actually pull Ryan back if someone claimed him, or if this is another “we signed you for TWO years?! Whoops” sort of thing. Wouldn’t surprise me if this is another place they’d want some positional flexibility moving forward with, even if the in-house solutions are much less obvious. That being said, you’re not really going to find a markedly better defensive replacement type, at that price, next season.

    • HansDavenport

      Even if he is signed for 3 he’s signed at such a cheap price. What about Itchy? Think they’d pull him back?

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        I’d like to think they’d try to work out a trade. If not, I don’t have an issue with him as 4th outfielder. I’d rather them not just let him go.

        • Dos Luises

          I’m OK with keeping ichiro as 4th OF rest of year. I’ll scream if they bring him back in the off season.

        • HansDavenport

          The problem is, every single time Tex is injured, he becomes the starting RF. He’s played in more games then Beltran and Tex, though he has less at bats. He’s also a very weak bat off the bench.
          I agree, I would hope they try and work out a trade. Maybe Seattle has tired of Cano’s casual, selfish, lazy style of play and wants to move him, for a gritty veteran.

    • 86w183

      Ryan’s defense has always been overrated in my view. I’d let him go if claimed… especially if they are committed to finding a top flight, full-time SS. But the savings are pretty insignificant.

      What they need is to get Beltran out in RF and grab a DH bat from somewhere. Ichiro’s punchless ABs are an eyesore. A .646 OPS from RF is a disaster.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        And, while Tex and McCann are out, putting Beltran in RF doesn’t do a whole lot for you. Finding a full-time SS has nothing to do with having Brendan Ryan on your bench.

        • 86w183

          Of course it does. You spend more on a backup SS when you have a 40-year-old than you do when you have a prime player likely to play all season. Getting Ichiro out of the lineup helps… even if you just call someone up from Scranton to play. He’s one of the worst every day players in MLB right now.

          • Jorge Steinbrenner

            Suppose, pie in the sky, your shortstop is Tulo next year. I’d still rather have Ryan caddy him than, say, Jose Pirela. I’m not giving Ryan away for shits.

    • MTU

      I wouldn’t mind if he disappeared.
      I don’t think he offers all that much.

    • Yankee Trader

      As Mike indicated, they both probably have already cleared waivers. I think had another team put a claim in, the Yankees would have dumped them, and saved some money, as well as some luxury tax money.

      Now if a team is interested the Yankees will most likely have to kick in some dollars. Would be interesting if the Mariners wanted Ichiro back.

      Ryan, I would trade. The team is covered this season, now with Drew at SS if needed, and as many of you have said They can find a utility SS in the offseason.

      • Dos Luises

        Mike also indicated middle infielders are hard to find. Seems everyone has discounted that statement.

    • Stratocaster

      At this point it would appear that no team has put in a claim. I was wondering the same thing though. I could see the Yankees go either way if a claim were made on Ryan.

    • YakaTanaka

      My guess is that they would let him go… I don’t think it’s an imperative to get rid of his $2 mill salary since they need a buck-up SS, but at the same time he hasn’t turned his offense back around so you can find similar production on the waiver wire for a bit less money.

      And this season they already have Drew as a back-up SS, so there’s no loss in the short-term.

      Ryan is looking like a miss, but that happens. Same kind of thinking that has led them to acquire a lot of underrated guys who worked out probably went into his signing. Can’t bat 1.000.

  • 86w183

    I think today’s game is awfully important. You can’t make the post-season losing home series to teams like this.

    Anyone have a guess as to how much longer this idiocy of a 13-man pitching staff will end?

    • MTU

      Morning.
      At this point they are all important.

      • 86w183

        Hey MTU —-

        Yeah, they’re all important, but losing a home series to a team with a sub .500 record would be extra painful

        • MTU

          If we could just keep our guys healthy we’d have a lot less trouble doing so.
          Once again we find ourselves not at full strength.

    • LazerTown

      Do we actually use the whole bench? I’d rather have the extra pitching right now, Prado and Headley are flexible enough that they don’t need a backup for everyone.

      • 86w183

        Ryan, a backup catcher and one other guy is an awful bench, which means older players don’t get rested. Thus day game after night game equals ZERO offense.

        • LazerTown

          How many benches actually provide offense?

          Cervelli/Ichiro/Ryan really isn’t that bad comparatively in that dept. Teams don’t have players that can be regulars just sitting on their bench anymore.

          • 86w183

            There’s more power on a high school girls softball team’s bench.

            • MTU

              I prefer women’s volleyball.

        • Yankee Trader

          I’m not sure I could come up with 13 reliable pitchers even if Tanaka and Pineda were good to go.

          Let’s see:
          Tanaka
          Pineda
          Kuroda
          McCarthy
          Now add:
          Greene-quite impressed
          A healthy Phelps
          Kelley
          Warren
          Betances
          Robertson
          A lefty makes 12
          Add another left and it’s 13

          But the team needs another power bat too!

          • Yankee Trader

            Bad addition at ten before a lefty or two

        • HansDavenport

          With the bench as it is now, and Girardi’s need to frequently rest players it means Suzuki plays more often. Not good.

    • Yankee Trader

      Don’t know. However when I looked at the Yankees remaining schedule an hour ago, they close the season with 20 out of the remaining 32 games vs. AL East teams. The last three are in Fenway.

      If they keep 13 pitchers I hope two of them are a fully healed Masahiro Tanaka and a dominating Michael Pineda, ready to pitch and up his innings all the way thru to a Game 7, if necessary, win in the WS!

      • MTU

        The Yankees are well positioned to control their own fate.

    • YakaTanaka

      Anyone have a guess as to how much longer this idiocy of LoHud commenters peppering every thread with random, off-topic blabber will last?

      • MTU

        You are using a pretty broad brush there aren’t you.

        • YakaTanaka

          Am I wrong?

          • YakaTanaka

            Blake has added to the board and maybe one or two others… But largely it’s been one pedantic, off-topic orgy of people who don’t seem to be able to find the reply button.

            A lot like… wait for it… LoHud… LoHud was the worst Yankees board out there and this was the best… The mixing has not been a good thing in my opinion, and apparently most other RAB regulars based on the comments.

            • MTU

              I don’t think any, or very few, have come in here w the intention of disrupting your Blog.
              I know I sure didn’t and generally observe the guidelines.
              If you have a specific problem w someone please direct it to them instead of lumping everyone together.

              • YakaTanaka

                Can’t think of one commenter I know as a LoHud regular besides Blake who stays on topic.

                • MTU

                  I generally do.
                  But your idea of staying on topic is a very narrow and restrictive one.
                  When some poses a question and some else responds how is that out of bounds ?

                  • YakaTanaka

                    Because it’s off-topic. Instead of just continuing the same running conversation from thread to thread, we keep conversations going in the threads where they started and are on topic.

                    There is an off-topic thread that no one uses here. It might be a perfect solution for LoHuders and others who want to keep a running dialogue going to infuse life into it for that.

                    • http://shhhorsie.com Cheval Anonyme

                      If I were Mike I would put up open threads more often, perhaps twice per day, or more. The participant mix has changed, for better or worse, and the site would be better if it adapted to reflect the new reality.

          • MTU

            I think you need to be more specific.
            You have a problem w all LoHud commenters or just some ?
            If it’s all I would say you are wrong.
            And I’d also say you’re too anal.

            • YakaTanaka

              And I’d say that having to wade through 100 worthless, off-topic comments to get to one worthwhile one is really annoying.

              That’s why LoHud was generally known as the worst, most annoying Yankees blog to all but its regulars. And why RAB is generally known as the best.

              If you want to have a chat style conversation with all your bros… do it on LoHud. If you want to have topical baseball conversations, stay here and stop peppering threads with off-topic musings.

              • MTU

                Most are replies to other posters.
                And if that is your attitude towards me I would say you are too anal.

                • YakaTanaka

                  I’m being a dick and there are some worthwhile contributions from the former LoHuders mixed in their the off-topic, but it’s just annoying to have to read through so many pedantic, off-topic comments. In all honesty, that was already the case here… but I feel like it’s 10x worse now.

                  I feel like engaging off-topic commenters in an off-topic conversation just perpetuates the problem. (Ironic.. I know.)

                  I’ve asked a few times and still haven’t figured out why people left there.

                  • MTU

                    I left because they went to a Facebook format.
                    We had an individual who was hacking a lot of stuff and I considered Facebook even more of a problem.
                    And as far as being pedantic goes I think you need to look in the mirror.
                    Lighten up. We are trying our best to fit in here.
                    And no one is trying to eff w your blog.

                    • YakaTanaka

                      Points taken.

              • Yankee Trader

                Are your views on everything also so myopic?

                I think Mike does a terrific job here at River Avenue Blues, and you need to give the LoHudders some time to incorporate the new changes.

                • YakaTanaka

                  The irony in this comment is thick…

              • Howler

                and things here were never completely on topic as much as the moans and groans like to make it seem as I’ve been on RAB long before…if you just gave it some time though things will settle out.

        • YakaTanaka

          I apologize for being a jerk and taking my point of view as reality.

          • MTU

            It takes a Man to say I’m sorry.
            Apology accepted.

    • Madrugador

      Are they finally getting some length out of their starters on this homestand or has the fact that they are 4-2 over that span clouded my perception?
      I would guess they will go with 13 man pitching staff as long as their starters throw less than 6-7 innings per game.

    • Madrugador

      I am not sure how questioning the wisdom of a 13 man staff counts as blabber. Am I limited to only talking about Ichiro, Ryan and trade waivers on this thread?

      • Pasta Stumbling Sojo

        Yes:

        “Keep comments on topic. Every day during the regular season, we will host a Game Thread. In that thread, feel free to discuss the Yanks, the news of the day, what’s happening in the game, etc. For the rest of the posts, do your best to keep comments related to the topic at hand. News tips should be emailed to one of the writers. Contact information is available in the sidebar the right.”

        http://riveraveblues.com/about.....uidelines/

        • Madrugador

          At the risk of going off topic, I will say that the game threads on Lohud were a scary place. I stopped posting on these threads long ago.
          Lohuders tended to post by time of the day. That is you would see different people at different times and so groups developed and posters commented on anything at these times.
          I will try to stay on topic but forgive me if I slip now and then.

  • MTU

    Give us another trade Cashman.

  • 86w183

    It appear Wittle Marky Teixeira’s pinky boo-boo is a wittle better and he might actually twy to pway today. Sure hope he doesn’t stub one of his toesies.

    • YakaTanaka

      Can you give it a rest? This has nothing to do with the topic and you sound like an idiot continually acting as if a 6-3/215 hulk of a man who is known as an exceptionally hard worker is a wimp.

      He’s injury prone these days, but the guy had his pinky annihilated. If he had decided to “tough it out,” he likely would have performed horribly and prolonged the recovery period. Hurting the team in both the short and long-term.

      • 86w183

        Obviously you don’t understand the concept of a blog. If you want to stay on topic, you hit “reply”. If you want to start a new topic you “join the discussion”.

        If you don’t have a problem with a professional athlete sitting out because his pinkie hurts, that’s fine. I happen to think it’s time to man up and go to work. There’s no risk of re-injury. It’s just dealing with pain. If it was his right hand, you would have a point. But it wasn’t and you don’t.

        • YakaTanaka

          Obviously, you have not read the commenting guidelines here.

          So it is better to hurt your team by playing at a small fraction of your peak ability than to heal? Your perception of what being a “man” means seems very warped. That sounds more like a Neanderthal to me.

          • 86w183

            There’s nothing Neanderthal about playing hurt. For a player to sit with a sore pinky isn’t playing hurt and it isn’t helping the team.

            Why would you think a pinky injury would reduce Tex to a “small fraction of his peak ability”? That’s pretty insulting. It’s his left hand… he’s right handed.

            • YakaTanaka

              Dude, Mark Teixeira is a switch hitter. Do you watch the Yankees?

              I think it would reduce his effectiveness because he literally said it was too painful to hold the bat.

              Can we please get back on-topic now that your curiosity about why injured players do not play has been quenched?

              • Person Of Interest

                This entire discussion is off-topic and totally pendantic. How much more of this crap do I have to scroll though to get back to the meat of the ‘everybody cleared waivers and nobody’s going anywhere’ topic?

                • YakaTanaka

                  Fair point. I should not have engaged. I just happen to think Tex is a guy you root for whose body is giving out on him, so hearing it said he’s a baby is hard to ignore.

            • roberto kelly johnson

              its a bit disingenuous to say he just has a “sore pinky” when there is 3 stitches attached to the “soreness” and hes a righthanded person who switch hits that also plays in the field as a first basemen receiving throws to his lefthanded glove on almost every play.

              • 86w183

                I understand… not saying it would be fun, but playing in pain is something professional athletes need to do. Fielding the ball would hurt as would swinging the bat from the left side. Batting RH would be the most difficult thing to tolerate. Glad he’s back in the lineup today.

                My day here is done…. everyone have a day!

                • YakaTanaka

                  The thing is that there’s a difference between playing through some pain and playing injured. If you think Tex has never played through pain with all the games he’s logged over the years… You’re probably very wrong.

        • Alkaline

          You don’t understand the concept of staying on topic. Commenting guidelines number 5 from this blog:

          Keep comments on topic. Every day during the regular season, we will host a Game Thread. In that thread, feel free to discuss the Yanks, the news of the day, what’s happening in the game, etc. For the rest of the posts, do your best to keep comments related to the topic at hand. News tips should be emailed to one of the writers. Contact information is available in the sidebar the right.

          • 86w183

            So you are saying it’s against the rules to start a new topic? How do discussions get started under that standard?

            I’m not being snarky, I’m asking. Is starting a new topic taboo?

            • Alkaline

              Typically, keep new topics to the game thread/open threads. If you’re commenting on a post about Ryan and Icho on waiver, don’t just randomly post about Tex being a baby. While that is a whole topic that could be debated, this isn’t the place for it. Save it for game/open threads, or the constant, albeit seldom used off topic thread that could be found with the link on the tool bar.

              I’m not trying to be a smartass. I don’t post often, and am guilty myself of making off topic comments occasionally, as many are. With the influx of people, it’s more noticeable, though, so I think we just need to make a concerted effort to stay on topic. Just my opinion.

              • 86w183

                ok… i can do that. I thought my cheap shot at Tex was “on topic” since he was in the lineup…. thanx

                have a day

        • http://cheapinkstore.com Cheapness Smithy

          This is NOT your blog. If you want to write an article on a new topic, start your own blog and see if anyone cares. Or, you know, comment about Mark Teixeira on blog posts about him. The “point” of blogs has NEVER been for commentators to write their own off-topic articles in the comments. The point of blogs that allow comments is so that readers can add useful commentary on the topic being discussed.

  • Yankee Trader

    Leaving soon. I wonder if Ichiro were still batting .300, if there would be any interest in him now, especially if Beltran could play RF, and even if not, Prado has shown he can.

    Attaching an interesting article from this morning PS Bible on the last time a Yankee team did not have a .300 hitter. Of course if the Yankees weren’t a minus 22 runs, and invoked much more power, what’s the need anyway for a .300 hitter?

    http://www.pinstripealley.com/.....r-ellsbury

    • Howler

      If the Mariners could only fall out of the race then they could claim him so he could retire with them and everyone in Seattle could give Ichiro his happy little send-off because I don’t think any other team is going to bother with him next year.

      • YakaTanaka

        Might not have to fall out of the race. Ichiro might be an upgrade over Endy Chavez for their playoff push. To say nothing of the PR angle.

        As much as Ichiro isn’t good anymore, he’s also not that bad when you compare him to other reserve OFs.

        • YakaTanaka

          With the salary included I guess he’s probably not worth it. If he were coming at the league min, maybe.

          • Howler

            With the salary remaining and promotions of seeing their little Ichi one more time I’m sure it’d put some more butts in the seats…how many have come to see Jeter’s last go round. Hell I’ll even throw in some cash and take Montero back.

      • Deep Thoughts

        They lost a one-run game on a SS error in the 10th (EDIT: last night.) I would think they’d be interested in both Ichiro and Ryan helping the team during a legit run for the playoffs.

        • Howler

          Ichiro has been so bad with runners in scoring position that he’s more a detriment than much of a help.

  • Old Die Hard

    if only the Yankees would put Tex on the waiver wire. I am so sick of him and the way he plays this team and management not going on the DL twice now in a 3 week time span he puts the Yankees a man short on an already short team.
    I doubt anyone would claim him, but what if the Yankees got lucky and could dump his salary and his glass body. I have mentioned before I am not a researcher, but I would venture to guess, that at least half of his home runs and RBI’S have come when the game was already determined, either way- win or lose. He does nothing for this team anymore and is not a consistent player either in the bat, on the defense, or just being fit to play.

    • Too_Many_Idiots

      Congratulations on the dumbest RAB post today.

      ****CONFETTI****

    • Justo MOreno

      I am glad you are sick of something but get help you need it. The post is idiotic but also demonstrate you need medication. Please get it!!!

      • Old Die Hard

        you are a classless and mindless tool. If you don ‘t like other opinions, stay off the boards and if you don’t know how to comment without making personally demeaning comments, stay off the board and maybe have your mommy teach you some manners. You and Too many idiots are just the kind of people who make opinion boards BAD. And when there is a comment you don’t like, you jump on the bandwagon of berating someone instead of just stating your own opinion. I guess it comes from a basic lack of self confidence and having an undersized brain located in both heads… you are pathetic. And if Mike would clean up the boards from allowing dumb clones like you guys, this would be a better place.

        • Too_Many_Idiots

          The comments that need to be cleaned up are the complete asinine comments such as your original statement. First, it was completely off-topic, second, it contained so many outright false statements, it wasn’t worth refuting; only snark. Instead of facts, you spoke from an uniformed, naive, and purely emotional viewpoint. Additionally, you did nothing but berate and demean a player on the team, then you cry like a baby when you get similar treatment. If you want to be taken seriously on a message board, try not to open with such a ridiculous and false diatribe.

        • Justo MOreno

          Like I said you need help. There are meds for your condition. First Tex has been a class act since coming to the Yankees and until last year when he injured his wrist he has been there day in and day out. So if you are sick of him we are honestly sick of your blind stupidity. That said the topic was related to Ichiro and Ryan being placed on trade waivers so maybe you missed your daily dosage. I personally respect all opinions including yours but talking about being sick of players from behind the keyboard is something that deserves getting some wrath. Have a great day and please dont miss your next dose.