Yankees acquire Dustin Ackley from Mariners from Ramon Flores and Jose Ramirez

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Beard's gotta go, Dustin. (Tom Szczerbowski/Getty)
Beard’s gotta go, Dustin. (Tom Szczerbowski/Getty)

While we wait for pitching, the Yankees have made a move to possibly improve the bench. The club has acquired utility man Dustin Ackley from the Mariners for outfielder Ramon Flores and right-hander Jose Ramirez, both teams announced. Ackley is currently in Minnesota, so he won’t join the Yankees in time for tonight’s game. He’ll probably meet them in Chicago tomorrow.

Ackley, 27, was the second overall pick in the 2009 draft, taken right after Stephen Strasburg. He was teammates with Adam Warren at UNC. The Yankees have reportedly been after Ackley for quite a while now — they talked to the Mariners about him last year, but backed away when Seattle wanted Bryan Mitchell. Earlier today we heard the two sides were discussing Ackley, Flores, and Ben Gamel.

So far this season Ackley is hitting .215/.270/.366 (77 wRC+) in 207 plate appearances as a part-time player. He showed a lot of promise by hitting .273/.348/.417 (117 wRC+) during his 90-game MLB debut back in 2011, but owns a .236/.297/.356 (85 wRC+) batting line in over 1,800 plate appearances since. Ackley has played first and second bases and well as left field in the big leagues.

The immediate question is how does Ackley fit on the roster and how will he be used? He is out of minor league options, so someone is coming off the 25-man roster, and the Yankees could either slot him into the Garrett Jones role or make him the everyday second baseman. My guess? They’ll try to turn him into their version of Brock Holt, the supersub who can play anywhere. This blurb from Ken Rosenthal back in June sticks out to me:

One problem with a six-man rotation is that it all but forces a team to carry 13 pitchers. Alas, it’s difficult to construct a roster that way without a multi-position threat such as Ben Zobrist or Brock Holt on the bench.

Such players, of course, are rare, which is why Yankees manager Joe Girardi said he recently told the head of the team’s minor-league department, “We’ve got to create one.”

We’ll see how it goes. For what it’s worth, the team’s press release identified Ackley as an outfielder only, not as a second baseman or first baseman or infielder or anything like that. Just an outfielder. It seems likely Ackley will replace Jones on the roster, but who knows.

I ranked Flores and Ramirez as the 18th and 30th best prospect in the system last week, respectively. The Yankees have more upper level outfielders and relievers than they know what to do with, so it’s no surprise they used that surplus in a trade. They still have Gamel, Slade Heathcott, Mason Williams, Aaron Judge, and Jake Cave in the outfield and a small army of righty relievers in Triple-A.

Flores, 23, made his MLB debut earlier this year and stood out more for his glove than his bat in 12 games. He is hitting .286/.377/.417 (113 wRC+) with seven homers in 73 Triple-A games this year. Flores has a classic left-handed platoon outfielder’s profile, a Seth Smith type, and he’ll have a much greater opportunity for playing time in Seattle. I would not at all be surprised to see him carve out a long career as a useful role player.

The 25-year-old Ramirez has been up and down a few times the last two years, allowing eleven runs on 17 hits and eleven walks in 13 big league innings. Yikes! He’s struck out a dozen. Ramirez has a 2.90 ERA (2.70 FIP) with 26.7 K% and 11.0 BB% in 49.2 Triple-A innings this year. He has superb stuff — at his best, Ramirez sits mid-90s and gets swings and miss with both his changeup and slider — but his command is spotty and his injury history is ugly.

Ackley will earn $2.6M this season and remain under team control as an arbitration-eligible player in both 2016 and 2017. I figured he would be a non-tender candidate after the season, but I’m guessing the Yankees didn’t just trade Flores and Ramirez so they could non-tender Ackley in November. Flores and Ramirez both have all six years of team control remaining.

It remains to be seen how the Yankees will use Ackley going forward. This is a move designed to upgrade the margins of the roster, nothing else. They’re taking a shot on talent — Baseball America ranked Ackley as the 11th and 12th best prospect in all of baseball in 2010 and 2011, respectively — and hoping Ackley will thrive outside of cavernous Safeco Field and in lefty friendly Yankee Stadium.

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  • Adam

    Ustin Dackley

  • JacobyWanKenobi

    Flores and Jose Ramirez :/

    • Adam

      Jeez. I liked them both. Oh well. NEW BAD SECOND BASEMAN ALERT.

  • disqus_8E66WIUyso

    Wow. Does he pitch?

  • dickylarue

    Our problems are solved!

  • JacobyWanKenobi

    Maybe he’ll be better without the beard weighing his head down?

  • colonelnp

    Stephen Drew actually has a better WAR than Ackley. 0.0 to -1.1 Sigh. Dustin Ackley=New whipping boy.

  • Andy

    *scratches head*

  • dickylarue

    They’re gonna lock him in a room with Pentland until Ackley breaks, begins to sob and says “I promise I won’t suck anymore! I promise!”

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Don’t really get it.
    Who does he replace? Drew? Ackley’s barely played 2B the past couple years.
    Jones?

    • Adam

      Pretty sure he has to replace either drew/ryan for this to make a lick of sense.

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        Replaces Ryan or Drew, who cares. Only difference is Ackley has upside (?)

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        Seems odd that they’d carry 3 lefty middle IF’s.
        Not sure he offers anything over Drew.

        • colonelnp

          He has a worse WAR than Drew. Definitely doesn’t offer anything more. At the very lease Drew can hit balls out of the park.

  • Jay

    UGHstin ackley ????

  • Brian

    time to address starting pitching

  • JacobyWanKenobi
  • Sir Didi Nakamura

    Bold prediction: Ackley reaches his ceiling because of Pentland and Yankees win the pennant!

  • Coney1

    Honestly…who gives a shit. More bottom feeding by this fucking awful front office.

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      0/10

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      Fuck shit fack#!

      • Coney1

        I second that!

  • Sir Didi Nakamura

    Flores/Jose Ramirez btw, not a big deal anyway.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    Somewhere, Rob Refsnyder weeps…

  • dickylarue

    I’m just waiting for a prospect hugger to come in with outrage over the loss of Ramirez.

    • LazerTown

      Not me

  • Adam

    At least this helps out the 40 man roster crunch that’s gonna happen after this year.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Just releasing those guys would pretty much accomplish the same thing….

  • blake

    Good news: the Yanks have 3 Tarheels that I watched a lot when I was there!

    The bad news: Ackley is worse than Drew

    • dickylarue

      They basically get a high percentage of players you obsess over. Sadly, it’s usually the one’s who are shot.

      • blake

        I didn’t want ackley….like 2 years ago I did .and if that was true where is Cole Hanels? Or Justin upton? Or anybody good!

        • dickylarue

          You were on the Ackley train for awhile. I have a long memory.

    • HoopDreams

      At least two of those tarheels are good.

  • The Original Drew

    I honestly didn’t think it was possible for the Yankees to acquire someone worse than Drew to play 2B.

  • disqus_8E66WIUyso

    Surplus. But Ackley really stinks. Why give anything for him. Cashman is a terrible gm. Unless other things are to follow.

  • YankeeFan™

    Who knows maybe a change of scenery would be good in a friendly hitting Ballplayer like Yankee Stadium & the whole AL East.

    • colonelnp

      Seems the same was said about Drew.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        If at first you don’t succeed….

        throw different shit at the wall and hope it sticks.

      • YankeeFan™

        True but he’s 27 let’s give him a chance first.

  • JacobyWanKenobi

    At least Ackley is cheap and under team control, if he works out, WOO! If not, you gave up a AAAA OF and a pitcher that probably won’t do much anyway?

    • JacobyWanKenobi

      ^Coping mechanism^

  • Diego Moreddardno

    Worst trade Cashman has ever made. It is not an upgrade. He is destroying team chemistry for nothing. Just another .215 hitter to add to the scrap heap. Jays get Price, Rangers get Hamels, we get Dustin Ackley.

    • Adam

      You mean AAA chemistry, right? #eddard’d

    • Tyler

      How is he destroying team chemistry… Flores and Ramirez played for Scranton lol.

  • Sir Didi Nakamura

    Dustin Ackley in July: .286/.316/.486, 120 wRC+, 1 HR. 5.3 BB%/13.2 K%

    • Adam

      Hey, BRIGHTSIDE!

      • JacobyWanKenobi

        Can Ackley’s nickname be Mr. Brightside?

    • Yankee Trader

      Another lefty. Who goes? Drew?

    • Dan A.

      And in June: .235/.350/.382, 113 wRC+, 1 HR. Just had a God awful May

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        70 wRC+ in April, 38 wRC+ in May. Maybe going through a Didi type of thing and heating up. Probably wishful thinking, but whatever.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          -17 wRC+ since the AS break (only 15 PA’s)

          • Sir Didi Nakamura

            :/

      • Yankee Trader

        He is hitting .308 batting in the 9th position, but in 26 at bats.

  • Dos Luises

    Seems like a reclamation project and more of a roll of the dice for 2016. I wouldn’t add him to the 25 man if I didn’t have to.

  • dickylarue

    Really sad no one’s posted “Can he pitch?” yet. C’mon guys. Buck up. Raise your game.

    • Adam

      Scroll down. It’s there…

      • dickylarue

        Phew.

  • W.B. Mason Williams

    Alright.

  • YankeeFan™

    Has to be either Drew or Jones leaving ?

  • Jonathan Jacobs

    Refsnyder must be involved in another trade

  • Roy Munson

    Yuck, He’s Drew without the Power

  • JacobyWanKenobi
  • HoopDreams

    Chris Young V2. YEAH I WENT THERE.

    • Adam

      From your mouth to the BABIP gods ears.

  • joeman

    yea they need a 2nd baseman but can you get what you really need 1st a SPer…

  • joeman

    e just isn’t that good

  • Andy

    I’d rather have drew than ackley. I think I’d rather Ryan. Makes no sense to me at all.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting

    There was a good chance that Flores and Ramirez both weren’t going to last until next season on the 40-man roster, but I’d hoped maybe they could be part of a package for something more useful.

  • YankeeFan™

    Let’s give him a chance please before over reacting. You wanted a move & here’s the move lol

    • Adam

      TROLLOLOLOL

    • joeman

      bad move

    • dickylarue

      I think he’s gonna be just great. Just want to be on record for that now.

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        I’ll join you. I say he upgrades over Drew.

    • Andy

      Nobody wanted this

  • Rhett Hoskinson

    This makes me like the trade despite his struggles.

    http://projectprospect.com/article/2009/09/17/dustin-ackley-scouting-report

  • http://www.twitter.com/Ray_Zayas ComeOnYouBronxBombers

    To the bullpen!

  • joeman

    Sper please

  • Frittoman626

    What a fucking ripoff!!! Flores and Ramirez are low tier prospects, but they’re better to have than fucking Ackley. If it had been just one or the other I can understand, but both is a overpay… Ugh.

    • Diego Moreddardno

      Yeah, Flores was a good little ballplayer who never got much of a chance up here. I didn’t care for Ramirez. If it was just him going, fine. We don’t need another .215 scrap heaper. Better off just staying with what we have and keeping team chemistry at an all time high.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Yeah. I’m not a fan of this.

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      I don’t see the big deal honestly

      • Frittoman626

        It’s not the prospects, it’s the fact that the Yankees have up anything of value for a guy who would have been non-tendered at the end of the season.

  • blake

    @Joelsherman1: Another possibility is a team told #Yankees were interested in Ackley and NYY got to spin for something that makes more sense?

    Hope!

    • Adam

      Why wouldn’t that team just trade their 27th and other low prospect for him then?

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        Mariners already decided Iwakuma isn’t getting traded and not even a chance at the 2nd WC was mentioned as the reason. Maybe they are just dumb and refused anything else.

  • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

    So, Ackley gets No. 26 because logically it goes to a schlum?

    • vwnut13

      Sounds like Chris Young needs a new jersey number.

      Isn’t 24 reserved for schlums since Cano left?

  • Robinson Tilapia
    • dickylarue

      Can he pitch?

      • Pkyankfan69

        He hits like a pitcher…So there’s that.

        • dickylarue

          I was talking about the baboon.

          • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

            He throws fastbananas at 45 mph and sliding bananas at 10 mph. Hitters wondering why there’s a baboon on the mound while umpires think, “the shit that goes on every day in this game”

            • dickylarue

              If he can give us 5 innings a night we’re golden.

              • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

                We need to see if MLB will allow us to pitch with mudded up bananas.

              • BUDDHABING0

                Golden shower you must mean no?

                • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

                  Well, he will be peeing on the mound.

                  • dickylarue

                    I actually prefer that to all the spitting.

                    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

                      Eh, I prefer gum on the ground.

          • dhupads

            I think you still have to call him Mr. President.

            • dickylarue

              zing!

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam
  • joeman

    Ackley.isn’t the answer…to anyone they now have

  • dee

    Refs on the move?

    • frogbogg

      Gotta be for Sonny Gray and Reddick.

  • Steve B.

    Royals get Cueto , Rangers get Hamels , Blue Jays get Price….we get Ackley…great job Cashman

    • Adam

      Is it August 1 already? Time flies.

      • Dave Guarnieri

        Yankees have lost a lot of leverage.

  • MG2015

    blake, what is the scouting report on Ackley?

    On a scale of general suckiness, with Drew being a 5, Ryan a 7 and Pirela a 9.99, where is he?

    • Adam

      4.9

    • HoopDreams

      Pirela with a bit more pop.

    • blake

      6 ….but with 4 upside maybe?

      • MG2015

        so it’s a great deal, he can replace both Ryan and Drew lol

  • blake

    @eboland11: One opposing team scout called Ackley “a good project” for the Yankees. Added “he can run” and should “play refreshed leaving Safeco.”

    So is he gonna play 2b? What are they gonna do with Drew? Ackley just isn’t an upgrade and he might be worse

    • Pkyankfan69

      He’s going to sit on Drew’s shoulders as they form some sort of mega person 2B

      • JacobyWanKenobi

        Two pieces of shit piled together are still two pieces of shit :)

    • Dan A.

      Yankees 2B MLB ranks: .198 BA (30) .257 OBP (30) -13 Defensive Runs Saved (30) -1.1 B-Ref WAR (30) -1.6 Fangraphs WAR (30)— James Smyth (@JamesSmyth621) July 30, 2015

      Someone posted this below. I think you’re overrating Drew. Also Ackley’s June and July were both above average (113 and 120 wRCs)

    • Yankee Trader

      Rosenberg just said he has played one game at second the last TWO years!

      • Dan A.

        They got the best second baseman in baseball two years ago.

        • Yankee Trader

          Yes. As a second baseman in 2013 he batted .217. He hit better that year in LF.

          So who gets cut?

  • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam
    • dickylarue

      ..

    • Alkaline

      Basically the way most trades are no?

  • Spaceman Spiff

    Dont get it…

  • MG2015

    If I were Garrett Jones I wouldn’t be unpacking my bags tonight too quickly in Chicago…

  • Rhett Hoskinson

    It’s nuts how Cashman has kept this team relevant without a rebuild and one low risk, medium upside trade has all you fans ranting about his ineptitude

    • Bill

      The 200 million dollar payroll helps.

      • Rhett Hoskinson

        So does the drastically rebuilt, borderline top 10 farm system

        • TripleShortOfACycle

          They were in the top 10 a few years ago with little to show for it

        • Bill

          So the Yankees are relevant because Scranton has top quality players?

          • Rhett Hoskinson

            That and the fact they’re in first place by six games

  • Adam

    I think the thing to consider here is that we were going to have to move some AAA marginal talent regardless, or definitely lose them to Rule 5/40 man crunch.

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      Been saying this ad nauseum all…… season.

      I expect more spare pieces to be moved from now to August 31st.

      • Dave Guarnieri

        Would not get Jagielo or Sanchez thru waivers.

        • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

          Sanchez Yes
          Jagielo isn’t apart of the 40 man so he can be delt.

  • Yankee Trader

    Only played one game at second in two years?

    • Adam

      Cobinson Rano

      • Jerek Deter

        I might use that as my next name. Thanks!

        • Sir Didi Nakamura

          Yuture Fankee Hryce Barper

          • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

            Problem, the Fankees are the team people hate. Come up with a better nickname.

        • Adam

          I’ve fallen in love with the letter swap thing. Never not funny!

          • Jerek Deter

            Lol same I liked Cill Bosby, but people thought I was a rapist :(

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      Seattle is kind of set at 2B

      Makes it hard to believe the Yankees would throw him in as the everyday 2B right away though

  • GPU

    The pro scouts know their stuff. If they’ve really been after him for as long as they supposedly have, I’m intrigued.

  • HoopDreams

    That Yankee stadium debut ovation is gonna be thunderous.

  • dayanks

    Flores is a replacement level player, Jose will never become anything in the big leagues, but not a fan of the deal. Yanks just don’t need Ackley.

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      My thoughts exactly.

    • BigDavey88

      Your first two statements are exactly why we got Dustin Ackley.

      Anyone thinking our surplus and depth farmhands can get a decent return is dreaming.

  • RobA

    MEHstan Ackley

    • JacobyWanKenobi

      BRUHstin Hackley

      • Adam

        More like……….

        Bustin Ackley.

  • http://www.twitter.com/Ray_Zayas ComeOnYouBronxBombers

    Refs is going to Cincy in a leake trade

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      for real or YTPS?

      • Nick_CT

        no not real and I doubt they would want him unless they are moving phillips

      • http://www.twitter.com/Ray_Zayas ComeOnYouBronxBombers

        Rumors on the radio /ytps

  • yanksgoyanks

    This is fucking bullshit, Flores has a cannon arm and hit a little. I remember he got 3 hits off Max Scherzer, then they sent him down. Ramirez if he finds his groove could be a Betances lite, always has had powering stuff.

    • dayanks

      Too many ifs. Yanks have a surplus of bullpen and outfield depth, this trade doesn’t hurt.

    • Still Stucky

      If you didn’t have the common sense to say “rocket for an arm” instead of cannon arm, I don’t even…

  • dickylarue

    Holy shit. Wait. Girardi will call him “Dusty”. We have a Dusty!

  • JGMAN1

    Player for player, Ramon Flores is better than Ackley… never mind throwing in Jose Ramirez. What does Ackley’s skill set bring to the Yanks that is superior to what they already have right now?

    • Austinmac

      They have to clean out some of these AAA players and get something back before they lose them this winter for nothing.

      • JGMAN1

        I understand that but man… Ackley?

  • joeman

    bad fing move

  • Still Stucky

    River Av Blues – where RealGM Knicks fans seem measured and rational in comparison.

    • Adam

      ANALOGY OF THE SEASON AWARD NOMINEE

  • YankeeFan™

    What number do you see Ackley getting ? Ima say #26

    • Frittoman626

      Ackley doesn’t deserve a number under 70.

      • Adam

        He’ll pick 99, just so he has to get a watch from Judge next year.

        • Sir Didi Nakamura

          never

      • YankeeFan™

        LMAOO

  • YankeeB

    Serviceable utility man. Nothing more, nothing less. Another lefty bat though on a team that is too lefty heavy to begin with. Got to believe Drew is a short timer and Refsnyder might be given a shot after all.

  • Jerek Deter

    I think Ackley is going to be good dare I say better than Drew by a lot :O

    • MikhelB

      better than all around superstar Drew? dnt you dare say thaaaat!! hahah :P

  • blake

    Just don’t really get this move

  • blake

    Maybe they are trading Gardner and need a LFer…..right Joeman?

    • joeman

      hope

  • dickylarue

    Well I think this move successfully neutralizes the Jays pickup of Price today. Who’s with me?

    • Still Stucky

      Given the peanut gallery has moved on, I’d genuinely concur.

  • YankeeFan™

    Wouldn’t be surprised if Ackley turns out to be pretty good with us. I remember a lot of people last season said Chris Young was done.

  • dayanks

    Best case scenario: Ackley hits, places decent D, and can be backup OF. I’m guessing Jones will be gone?

  • MoneyFloatsMyBoat

    Change of scenery and playing home games at Yankee Staduim is worth a shot, expecially with the man crush Yankees seemed to have had on him for years. Don’t really see a negative in this trade, besides everyone wanting the big name.

    • YankeeFan™

      Seriously every year Yankee fans wanted him & now that he has a bad season they wanna destroy him.

      • http://batman-news.com vorozab

        I don’t know who you’re talking about – I have never, ever wanted Dustin Ackley on the Yankees, other than perhaps when he was drafted.

        • YankeeFan™

          Trust me on this site his name has pop up a lot in recent years. & I’ve been reading this site for a very long time.

  • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

    Ramirez has been pitching alot better recently but whatever.

  • Pkyankfan69

    Girardi on with Joe & Evan just after 5… I’m sure we’ll get nothing new but if you want to hear Girardi regurgitate what has happened recently here is your chance.

    • Austinmac

      Please fill in we remote fans on anything of interest. Thanks.

      • Basil

        us

  • Alex Rodriguez

    Suck it blue jays

  • dayanks

    2015 Ackley = 2014 Chris Young?

    Trust the Yanks statistics department!

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      I do.

      If there’s one aspect I trust with this front office is thier analytics department.

  • joeman

    trying to think of a Gardner trade ….

    • dayanks

      oh god pls no

  • B David

    I actually like it, gave up nothing for a player who clearly has talent, but never worked out. Our lineup and park are much better than Seattle, so I see a reasonable chance of this being a nice pick up.

    • dayanks

      Optimism!

    • vwnut13

      And maybe they can fix his swing, ala Didi.

  • MikhelB

    hahahahahaha wooooooow what a blockbuster deeeaaal!!!!

  • dickylarue

    Look guys. This is step one. Step two is getting Paul Byrd out of retirement. It’s all coming together.

    • Austinmac

      I miss his 1920s era wind up. We need him.

      • dickylarue

        I miss Kay telling us how he looked like Kelsey Grammer.

        • Austinmac

          I had forgotten that. Good times.

  • Austinmac

    He seems like a Jones replacement, I guess. Is he better than Jones? Could be. Can he play first?

    • blake

      Meh

    • vwnut13

      Well, the Indians did get Rob Kaminsky for Brandon Moss…

      • Austinmac

        I don’t get the Cards move there.

  • http://batman-news.com vorozab

    Can’t hit, can’t field. Other than that, though, he’s great!

  • vwnut13

    Cool.

    Now go get Kimbrel.

    • Dave Guarnieri

      I would sacrifice Mateo for Kimbrel rather than over use of Dellin, Miller, and Shreve. If they can take the Division it will be because of a lock down pen. (Plus Alex and Teix staying hot). The starting pitching makes my hair hurt.

  • joeman

    go get Ross and Dirty C

  • RetroRob

    I can’t really feel anything about this trade. I guess Mike’s “meh” sums it up.

    • Andy

      Meh with an added wtf

  • craig

    OMG…they must be trading Drew for Trout, so they’ll need another 2b!!!

  • MB923

    World Series!!!

  • HoopDreams

    BTW, Ackley is out of options. So #Yankees have to put him on 25-man roster. Which means another move has to be coming.

    • MB923

      Either release Ryan or Drew.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      One of Jones/Ryan/Drew has to be on the way out.
      Not sure which one.

    • JacobyWanKenobi

      Ackley is the next Brah Colt.

    • Tom

      Gotta keep the man with the mustache.

    • datkidde

      60 Day DL Pineda maybe

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        Not 40-man, 25-man.

        • datkidde

          Oh yea huh

  • blake

    @mlbtraderumors: Does Castro have any trade value? #Cubs “aggressively” trying to trade him, per @jaysonst: http://t.co/mGKvvv09kk http://t.co/vKEsCshjSv

    I thought Madden promised him he wasn’t being traded

    • Austinmac

      He wasn’t being traded while they were talking. He never meant to imply he wouldn’t get traded the next day. Much like Tulu.

  • vwnut13

    But our Dustin isn’t a balding midget!

  • Still Stucky

    All they need to do with Ackley is whatever thy did with Tex and Beltran, because as we all knew, they were done.

    • blake

      Well Ackley hasn’t been good since college….Tex and Beltran at least used to be good in the majors

      • Still Stucky

        Is the Tex and Beltran overreactions were even more hysterical considering what you just astutely pointed out your final answer?

      • RetroRob

        He was good his rookie year, and he held a 99 OPS+ last year, driven by a strong second half. If he could replicate that at 2B it would be a good pickup.

        I know I’m arguing both sides here, but there could be some value. As I said in the other thread, I wouldn’t have an issue if they didn’t give up much to get him. Flores had no opening and was the likely victim in the OF glut. Overall meh, but meh with potential of upside.

      • NYCORNERSTONE

        lol since college

  • craig

    Seriously, though…could this be to clear a couple of 40 man spots for a different deal?

    Cash tends to work in spurts (twss) and makes a few deals at once.

    Thoughts?

    • RetroRob

      Maybe. They cleared two 40 man spots, but added one. Yet they still need to make a move on the MLB roster (Jones, Ryan?), so that means another 40 man spot will open up for a total of two. There is a pitcher coming at some point.

    • Douglas Rau

      Well, he is running out of time–just under 23 hours to go now.

      • craig

        When the ninja pounces the dominoes fall quickly.

  • blake

    @JeffPassan: What the Dodgers are doing with their money is exactly what the Yankees should have been doing for the past decade: http://t.co/xJgtQym5EW

    • craig

      Thanks Jeff…now go write another shitty column.

      • TripleShortOfACycle

        So you disagree?

        • http://batman-news.com vorozab

          I think it’s a bit silly to go touting the Dodgers when a)they haven’t even made a WS since 1988 b)they actually have a worse record than the Yankees at the moment despite Greinke pitching like 1968 Bob Gibson.

          • TripleShortOfACycle

            They have been at this new model for 2 years.

            • craig

              And how many WS have they won in that time?

              *crickets*

              • TripleShortOfACycle

                Really?

              • Austinmac

                Would you prefer the most valuable team in baseball stick to a budget rather than spending as needed? I understand why an owner would do that, but I don’t understand where a fan benefits.

                • craig

                  The Yankees have the 2nd highest payroll in baseball by a pretty significant margin. People on here act like the Yankees have a $30 million payroll.

                  Bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch bitch.

                  BTW, the last time I checked the Yankees were also in 1st place in the AL East by 6 games, had the 2nd best record in the AL and have a better record than the greedy Dodgers.

        • craig

          How many WS have the Dodgers won in the last 25 years?

    • dayanks

      This is relevant when the Dodgers finally get past the Giants.

      • TripleShortOfACycle

        I thought the playoffs were a crap shoot?

    • Beauee

      In a way (and I don’t like to admit this), he has a point. The Yankees have more money than the Dodgers and they keep talking about budget constraints. Very silly. They need to use their competitive monetary advantage like the Dodgers are currently doing.

    • Austinmac

      Blake, you must understand that the new mantra is spending money is harmful to a team. The only way to have a good team is from within at pre-arbitration salaries. Ignore the reason the Yankees won their first pennant was buying a player.

  • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

    I’m just at the point where I wish it is August 1st already and we can focus more on the games again and lose all hope when we go down 3-0 in the first.

    • Sir Didi Nakamura

      this

  • Beauee

    So the Yanks didn’t give up much to get Ackley but what is the point really? He hasn’t played second in two years and he is no better than Drew on offense; additionally, what does this mean for Refs? And if they want to use him as a BU outfielder, I don’t understand that either; we have enough outfielders. I guess they are gambling on a “change of scenery” turnaround, but I just don’t see it. “Meh” indeed.

  • Yankee Trader

    Ackley played one game this year at second- gave Cano a rest?
    Before that the Last time he played second was in 2013 and he hit .217 when at 2nd. Who then can he replace?

  • Nefarious

    Once upon a time Ackley was a top prospect. Now will he re-discover that? Who knows. It’s not like its never happened before. Carlos Gomez is the first name that comes to mind but I’m sure there are others.

    • IRememberCelerinoSanchez

      It’s possible, but the guy has 2,220 career plate appearances. He likely is what he is. Which is not very good.

      • Nefarious

        That’s the most likely outcome but figured I’d look at the bright side

      • Evan3457

        Yeah, it’s low probability, but it’s buy-low on a former top prospect. And they traded surplus from their glut of AAA OF and RP.

    • Evan3457

      Phil Nevin futzed around in the minors and majors until he figured things out at age 28, then had a very good 6 years for the Padres (18 bWAR between 1999 and 2004) before decline set in at age 34.

  • MB923

    Not that Ackley is the future, but does anyone see a Refsnyder trade coming?

    • Aldukes

      100%

    • dayanks

      Leake.

    • Yankee Trader

      Maybe refs and others for Phillips and Chapman

      • NYCORNERSTONE

        then have Drew Ackley and Phillipps Ryan doubt it

        • Yankee Trader

          Ackley has played second once in two years.

          • NYCORNERSTONE

            i know,,, why did we want him

            • Douglas Rau

              Put him on the list with Sergio Mitre and Wilson Betemit in the “What did the Yankees ever see in this guy” category?

          • Evan3457

            Because they signed Cano. FWIW, advanced defensive metrics (DRS, UZR) have him as a solidly plus secondbaseman in 2011, 2012, 2013.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            Robbie.

  • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

    This is a solid deal. Flores and JoRam had no real place on this team, and Ackley’s always had talent.

    Might as well see what he can do once he’s away from an org that actively ruins hitting prospects.

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      Actively ruins hitting prospects? Care to explain that one?

      Also, Jose Ramirez has clearly been fading in interest because he just cannot command his stuff.

      • http://batman-news.com vorozab

        Well, they got nothing out of Justin Smoak, nothing out of Jesus Montero, nothing out of Mike Zunino, nothing out of Ackley. They don’t have a very good track record of developing hitters.

        • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

          I goofed, look up.

      • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

        Smoak, Montero, plus more.

        It’s like if the Yanks cant produce SPs from the farm, then the Mariners are the equivalent for hitting prospects.

        • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

          Scroll up, I goofed.

      • Texecutioner

        Right? Zunino, Ackley, Montero, and Miller have been killing it!

        • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

          I care to apologize, I misread that statement as being for Ramon Flores and the Yankees.

          • Texecutioner

            Hey dude no need to apologize to me. This wasn’t a shot at you, just enjoying how bad the mariners have been. I didn’t forget about the cliff lee trade or cano signing.

      • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

        Blatantly disregard my first question. I goofed.

      • Preston

        Mike Zunino, Dustin Ackley, Jesus Montero and Justin Smoak were all elite top ten type hitting prospects, at some point maybe it’s not the kids, it’s the team. Smoak is currently hitting above average for the Blue Jays. Hopefully all these other prospects victimized by Jack Z can find a better home.

      • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

        Look at every top hitting prospect not named Kyle Seager that the Mariners have had over the last several years.

        To name a few

        Smoak
        Montero
        Ackley
        Zunino
        Nick Franklin

        The last Mariners prospect who made the Top 100 and produced a wRC+ of 100 or better for them is Ichiro Suzuki.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I love you.

      • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

        Hah, thanks man!

        I wish I was more active, but between Disqus and the LoHud influx, I just can’t make myself chime in as often as I used to.

        Speaking of, when did you go back to the old name?! Unfortunately, I use this account on other sites, so I can’t go back to Cool Lester Smooth.

        • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

          Yeah Lohud really brought this place down.

  • NYCORNERSTONE

    After this it feels like we scored 21 runs last year not 2 days ago worst trade deadline week in a long long time

  • MattPat11

    It would be nice if the Yankees if the Yankees would start one of these muti year quests for a player that was good.

  • dickylarue

    They trade Refs for a rental pitcher and Mike might as well shut down the site for 24 hours.

    • HoopDreams

      I think this is happening, honestly.

    • YankeeFan™

      LMAOO I would not be shocked

    • blake

      Less than 24 hours before you can put your Refsyder action figure back in its protective case

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Aaron Harang.

  • Axis of Mike

    Next up: an equally unexciting pitcher. I hope I’m wrong.

    • dickylarue

      How do you feel about a nice Brett Tomko or Scott Feldman acquisition?

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Remember when Tomko was a Yankee?

      • Axis of Mike

        Ha! I thought you were serious and actually looked up Tomko! Where did that come from?

  • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

    I dont like the trade (cause like Mike said ‘meh’) nor do I dislike it (i dont think we gave up too much value).

    I just cant shake off the feeling that this move will make more sense after the next couple of days. I think Cash has more moves lined up.

    • Tom

      I think Refs and Sanchez could be moved.

    • Coolerking101

      Disagree. This is classic Cashman to bring in a formerly high upside guy and hope his instructors can work a miracle. I’m guessing Ackley will compete for the 2B job next year against Ref.

      • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

        What are you exactly disagreeing with?

        I can actually see what you are saying (if Ref stays). I just feel another move or two in the next few days would give more sense to this trade (with said moves not including Ackley).

        • Coolerking101

          Sorry, I was unclear. I disagree that this deal will make more sense soon b/c I don’t believe another related deal is on the horizon. I think this is just Cashman buying a lottery ticket.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        I could see that happening.

      • Deep Thoughts

        Yep. Look at the job they’ve done turning around Brendan “XBH” Ryan.

  • Coolerking101

    5th year in the league. Lifetime .240/.306 hitter with minimal power in the middle of the worst year of his career. His contract runs out at the end of the year, so if he’s a project, the Yanks will have little time to help him [CORRECTED….he’s only arb eligible next year ]. Not to mention Drew has hit better than this the last two months with more power. How is this an upgrade?

    • Adam

      I think he has one more arbitration year before free agency.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting

        2 more arb years … if he isn’t non-tendered.

    • IRememberCelerinoSanchez

      I agree that the deal is lousy, but don’t assume he is Drew’s replacement. He might be Jones’ replacement. The Yankees official tweet listed him as an OF/2B, in that order.

    • NYCORNERSTONE

      You mean he’s a rental

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Thank God we didn’t trade Severino for him.

  • IRememberCelerinoSanchez

    I have no problem giving up Flores and Ramirez for a helpful piece. I just don’t think Ackley is better than any of the position players on the current 25-man roster. That’s what I don’t like about this trade. It’s that Ackley has a 2,220 plate appearance track record of not being good.

    • http://shhhorsie.com Cheval Anonyme

      If you do the math for the 40 man roster, you would see that Flores and Ramirez were DFA candidates after the season.

      • Some Asshole

        The 40 man crunch is a LIE!! HUBRIS AND HAL’$$ budget!!!

        /bigdan’d

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Yes, and I still wish the return wasn’t Ackley.

        Anyways, he’s ours now. Go Dustin.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Exactly.

  • Preston

    You want to hear a fact that will make you feel lucky to be a Yankee fan. Dustin Ackley has 7 career WAR. That makes him 29th in career WAR for Mariners position players all time… http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=1871&ind=0&team=11&rost=0&age=&filter=&players=0

    • dickylarue

      So you’re saying we won the trade?

    • JGMAN1

      Makes me think WAR is deeply flawed. WAR What Is It Good For?!”

      • Basil

        You wouldn’t be the first.

    • JGMAN1

      Really though… What does Ackley’s skill set bring to the table that is superior than what the Yanks already have?

      • Preston

        You sir, are missing the point that was being made. This was not meant to be a post about how good Dustin Ackley is.

        • JGMAN1

          Preston… I really did get the point… I was really just looking for your opinion on what Ackley brings to the Yanks.

      • Some Asshole
    • Deep Thoughts

      Thank you. That was the laugh I needed this afternoon.

    • Deep Thoughts

      Without looking, Junior Edgar Ichiro, then Ackley? What about Alvin Davis, Tino, Olerud?

      EDIT: I saw “4th” not “29th”. No more Smirnoff ICE six-packs for lunch.

      • Preston

        Yup, all there. Junior, Edgar, Ichiro and Alex make up a pretty good top 4, then it goes to Jay Buhner, by the time you realize Harold Reynolds 12.2 WAR is 13th you get really depressed.

        • Deep Thoughts

          LOL, how could I forget Alex and Buhner.

          Remember, there are no retired numbers. The “Hall of Fame” features Alvin Davis.

          The PEZ Museum in Burlingame CA was less depressing.

  • Douglas Rau

    Too many outfield bats (Healthcott, Flores, Williams, Judge, Cave eventually) to get everyone regular reps at AAA.

    • KranmarMysteryDelicious

      very true so they should have traded some of them for someone who can play the game, not Ackley who is basically another Brian Roberts

      • Douglas Rau

        That’s not true–Brian Roberts’ back doctor is driving a Mercedes, with all the business Roberts gave him. Can Ackley’s doctor say the same?

  • http://jdbilingualsafety.blog.com/ ChristIsKing

    I don’t like giving up Ramirez but then again didn’t want to give up DePaula… 6ERA in Low A Ball so what do I know.

    • Adam

      Who did we give up depaula for again?

      • LazerTown

        Headley

  • Dan A.

    Joe just said they’re not using Ackley as the predominant second baseman, and plan to move him around. Very curious. Not sure who they’re getting rid of.

    • dickylarue

      He may work concessions at home games to make ends meet.

    • MB923

      A-Rod

    • MG2015

      sounds like Jones will soon be gone…

      • Dave Guarnieri

        Since they would not get Zobrist, not getting Prado he adds versatility. He is a very poor man’s Zobrist/Prado.

    • Still Stucky

      If people didn’t realize he was the new super-utility guy immediately, I don’t know what to say.

    • Beauee

      Well, if it’s one thing we needed it was certainly more OF depth.

  • leo baldwin

    Yanks join in the trade deadline madness with a huge SPLASH! woooooooooooooo

  • jmpnyy

    Ryan or Drew to Pirates for whatever.

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      Francisco Cervelli :D

      • Tom

        Gerrit Cole so he can be on the team who drafted him first.

  • Alkaline

    Oh man just what rab needed

  • YankeeFan™

    Would you take Ackley”s # from last season?

    • Douglas Rau

      .245/.293/.398? Maybe for a bench player but it’s hard to be excited about him.

      • Sir Didi Nakamura

        Better than Drew, but defense might make him worse.

        • Havok9120

          His 2B defense was always pretty good.

      • YankeeFan™

        He did hit 14 HR & drove in 65 RBI

  • dalelama

    Whew this deal is a stinker.

  • http://shhhorsie.com Cheval Anonyme

    Clears a 40 man roster spot at any rate. Yankees were likely to lose a couple of serviceable players in the off-season. They gave up nothing to gain very little for a marginal win.

    • Deep Thoughts

      Great roster management and AAA depth move. That’s about the only good thing I have to say about it.

      EDIT: Oh yeah, one more thing, at least he’ll have to shave the raccoon’s ass off his face.

  • Patrick

    Repost to put this in the proper thread:

    I’m very annoyed with this trade. Ackley just isn’t any good and Flores and Ramirez both have potential. Flores is only 23 and he’s hitting pretty well in AAA. At the very least he’s a 4th outfielder in the majors, at most he will start somewhere. Ramirez still has awesome stuff, he’s too injury prone to be a starter but I think he will be a valuable setup man somewhere.

    Ackley is worse than Drew or Refsnyder and will be off the team by this time next year. What an absolute waste.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I’m about done with Ramirez actually even being a healthy, effective reliever but, yeah, Flores has more value as an up and down outfielder to me…..or at least as a chip for a better player.

    • Preston

      The talent gap between Ackley and Flores is huge. If in 5 years Flores has posted a wRC+ of 90 in over 2000 MLB PAs that’d be a big success story. For Ackley it’s been considered a failure. Sometimes elite talents come around. But if not, he’s comparable to what you could reasonably hope for from Flores, and Flores is probably below Heathcott and Williams on the depth chart.

      • JGMAN1

        I’d rather Heathcott or Williams got the call over Ackley.

  • Douglas Rau

    I would think either Brendan Ryan or Stephen Drew would be the one to cut. My guess is Ryan–both field pretty well but neither offers much with the bat except for Drew’s occasional power. Yes, I know Ryan is the right-handed batter of the bunch but when you hit as little as he does, that’s almost irrelevant.

  • YankeeFan™

    Maybe they have a trade lined up for Jones or drew lol

  • Nick_CT

    Can he pitch?

  • KranmarMysteryDelicious

    “Ackley isn’t actually all that good for all the focus he has gotten from the Yankees. The former second baseman and current outfielder has hit only .215/.270/.366 this season, which is actually horribly similar to his .225/.282/.335 batting line at last year’s deadline. Maybe they think he’d be better outside of Safeco Field as a left-handed hitter at Yankee Stadium, but that’s a pretty simplistic scouting report since he’s been better at home this year and isn’t much of a pull hitter. He could just be that bad.

    While the Yankees might not exactly miss Ramon Flores if they dealt him, it’s my opinion that there’s no guarantee that Ackley is even a better player right now. We saw a small glimpse of what Flores brought to the table, and even if that was only a mirage, the potential for a useful outfield bat off the bench is likely more than a below-average Ackley. He’s been just as bad as Stephen Drew, without the random home run barrage, and he hasn’t played second for more than one game in a season since 2013. This might have been the most substantial offer Zduriencik will ever get for Ackely.

    If the Yankees are looking for a solution at second base, Dustin Ackley is not the answer. “

    • Still Stucky

      Indeed.

    • Septhinox

      A more useful outfielder off the bench than Mason? Or Slade? Cave? The Yankees has a glut of OFers and they can’t all play. Some will have to be traded.

  • Game 3

    Girardi plans to use him ‘all over the place’, not as the starting 2B at this time. – on WFAN right now

    • Deep Thoughts

      Trenton, Scranton, AND Wilkes Barre. He’s got the versatility of Martin Prado with the hit tool of Stephen Drew.

      • Still Stucky

        That’s pretty good.

      • dayanks

        No more options

        • Need Pitching & Hitting

          Outright?

    • MoneyFloatsMyBoat

      Sorta like a pour mans Zobrist in terms of versatility.

      • Game 3

        Or a rich man’s John Acer.

    • Septhinox

      That means he replaces Jones then most likely.

  • MG2015

    can the Padres hire Bertin as their GM in the next hour and have him trade the Yankees a starting pitcher, Gyorko and Kimbrel for Jones, Drew, Ryan, Burawa, Lail, Sanchez, Williams, Austin, Aune, Katoh, and Culver?

    • Game 3

      and CC

    • craig

      He’s already working for the Phillies…see, now that was funny!

  • Hank

    Can they stick him on the mound and have him start instead of CC tonight?

    • craig

      OMG another “Can he pitch?” joke…how cute and original.

      • BigDavey88

        Somebody’s cranky!

        • craig

          Nah…it’s just such a lazy joke. It’s the kind of thing people at OverTheMonster would say about the Yankees moves, too. If you are going to go after the low-hanging fruit you have to hit it out of the park.

      • Some Asshole

        …but can he!?

        /s

        • craig

          Well-played, sir…and totally…probably by the 3rd inning tonight.

  • craig

    Cash was reading RAB and was finally like, “Well fuck it dickylarue wants some kind of trade and so many of these idiots are asking for Ackley, you know what. Fuck them. I’m going to go get Ackley and shove him up their asses. Now they can leave me alone about Drew. Of course Ackley sucks, so they’ll be wishing we had Drew back.”

    • Need Pitching & Hitting

      I have a feeling Drew may not be the odd man out… at least not yet.

      • Austinmac

        I’m guessing Jones is going.

      • Hank

        Seems like Jones, no?

        He’s played 2nd base once in the last 2 years – I just don’t see them dropping him in at 2nd and cutting Drew right away. They probably will want to at least see if he can play there before making that decision. I can see them giving some time at 2nd over the next few weeks and possible DFA’ing Drew later on down the line if he’s Ok there and starts hitting again.

        Could be Ryan but then you have a bunch of lefty hitting MI’s which doesn’t seem like something the Yankees would do.

        (Or someone could be hurt that we just don’t know about yet )

    • KranmarMysteryDelicious

      amen

    • dickylarue

      So it’s my fault? Great. I feel shame.

  • Pete22

    I wake up to this? Cashman Failed, there are no other words.

  • KranmarMysteryDelicious

    Yup, CASHMAN
    REALLY FUH UH

  • Joeman

    A move that didn’t need to be made

  • Deep Thoughts

    Just saying, that UNC team with Warren and Ackley and Harvey et al. didn’t win squat.

    • blake

      And Miller

      • Patrick

        Harvey to the Yankees confirmed? :)

      • Deep Thoughts

        Uh oh. crap.

  • Dalek Jeter

    Solid meh. Bench piece and lottery reliever for bench piece. Mild silver lining is this is the same ML Scouting department that snagged us buy low successes like Young, Prado, amd McCarthy.

    • Beauee

      At least those guys has some level of MLB success at one point. Ackley has had none unless you want to count his 90 games as a rookie in 2011.

      • Billy

        Plus his 2011 season was fueled by a .339 BABIP

  • Some Asshole

    You know, for all the shitting that Flores will be something great and how the Yankees always give away talent, I bet nobody is really noticing the Mariners’ fans say the same thing about their team.

    • BigDavey88

      We’re all irrational asshats.

      The End :)

      • craig

        I’d like to fancy myself a rational asshat.

        I’m not. I’d just like to be.

    • craig

      The Mariners have fans? Where did you hear this?

      • Septhinox

        Not many, but a few to pay for Cano. :D

        • craig

          His swing is damn pretty!

  • YankeeFan™
    • cxz

      I honestly think they think even less of him than we do Drew. Imagine that.

      • RetroRob

        Imagine if the Yankees passed on Stephen Strasburg to get Drew? Add in that their team is also not in first place, and it will put it in perspective. So, yes, I do think they hate him more.

      • Tyler

        I think we’d all be even more upset if the Yanks picked Drew 2nd overall and he was supposed to be a franchise player.

    • Patrick

      Bad player is bad. Shocker.

    • Deep Thoughts

      Same player although Ackley came with all the hopes and dreams of a top-round draft pick. We knew Drew was not that coming in. That’s why he’s making 2.6MM and is a non-tender candidate.

      • BigDavey88

        Stephen Drew: A 1st round pick, number 15 to be exact!

    • Tyler

      Who is a really terrible beatwriter that covers the Mariners because I bet M’s fans feel the same way about him as Yanks fans do about Marchand.

  • HoopDreams

    Refsnyder for Leake?

    • plguzman

      I’m thinking that the odd man out could be Refs

    • cxz

      Meh.

  • Patrick

    I would literally rather have Ramon Flores on the 25 man roster if the choice is between him and Ackley. Ackley is not good at all.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I may not disagree with that.

  • Walter Sobchak – Vietnam Vet

    Seems like a totally unnecessary move. Seriously, why did the Yankees make this move? I can’t figure out why.

  • My name is Paul Heyman

    Ackley is like a utility but it seems his defense kinda sucks lol

  • disqus_8E66WIUyso

    WTF

  • imadominiCAN

    WTF… this is terrible. This guys is a bum. Another Drew. I don’t get it.

  • YankeeFan™

    I don’t honestly see Leake as a upgrade, I just have a bad feeling of him pitching in the AL East.

  • imadominiCAN

    they value defense yet they trade for a guy who doesn’t provide it, but won’t give their own guy that they drafted a shot at playing 2B. Makes no freaking sense.

  • Roy Munson

    Seems just so silly. He’s not any sort of upgrade over Drew or Jones. Smells like making a move for sake of making a move

  • RayVT

    How about Servino, Bird, Sanchez, Refs & Nova for Sonny Gray.

    • cxz

      Where do I sign?!

    • Texecutioner

      Oakland does love to trade their stars away

    • MG2015

      Servino, yes,Severino , no, even better yet, Servitto (Matt) currently on Banshee and formerly Agent Harris on The Sopranos

  • Still Stucky

    Ackley can play the infield and outfield.

    Why do we make things more difficult than they are?

    • HoopDreams

      Being a bad hitter and bad defensively I suppose.

    • Walter Sobchak – Vietnam Vet

      He can play them. He can’t play them well.

      • Still Stucky

        Was Jones killing it in the outfield?

        • Walter Sobchak – Vietnam Vet

          What’s the difference if he was or wasn’t if Ackley can’t field?

          And Jones’ bat >>> Ackley’s bat

          • Still Stucky

            The Yankees obviously see something in Ackley’s bat that intrigues them.

            Seriously, this quite obvious fact make you THAT resentful?

            Where go you people find the reserves of negativity?

    • Beauee

      What is your point exactly? Just because he can play lots of positions does not mean he would be an actual upgrade at any one of those positions. He’s not an upgrade at 2B and we have lots of OF depth. So what purpose does he serve?

      • Still Stucky

        Roster flexibility.

        • Beauee

          Roster flexibility for the sake of roster flexibility doesn’t actually improve the team. Look at Garret Jones (who you brought up). He can play OF and 1B, but that doesn’t mean he has actually made the team better. Ackley can play OF and 2B but he is not very good at either, so I fail to see how it does anything to improve the team. This is not about flexibility but about the Yanks thinking that Ackley could benefit from a change of scenery. I seriously doubt we will see much improvement, but I would love to be proved wrong.

          • Still Stucky

            Maybe it doesn’t the team. Maybe it just makes Garret Jones expendable and now th Yankees have a lefthand hitter who can play first, the outfield (including center), 2nd, and 3rd and short in a pinch.

            Maybe it’s a marginal benefit to the team.

            What’s the case against marginal upgrade? Because Cashman should do nothing until you all get your obligatory major upgrade?

            • Beauee

              I don’t know who this “you all” is addressed to because as far as I know, I don’t belong to any clubs. Anyway, I never said I was against the trade. I just thought it was mostly inconsequential. Pointless in a way. Jones would have been expendable anyway; we had enough OF depth. My guess is some combination of Flores/Williams/Heathcott could have contributed close to Jones’ level. Maybe Ackley surprises us all and turns it around, but as it stands it seems like a rather pointless endeavor.

  • Super Sub-Par ACK!ley

    Ackley,drew,ryan … Tampa Yankees?

  • imadominiCAN

    Mariner fans must be thinking that this is pay back for the montero-pineda trade. They will LOVE Flores. he’s underrated.

  • Walter Sobchak – Vietnam Vet

    Why make this move? I’m having a hard time figuring out why. Is it because he’s young(ish)?

    • Septhinox

      #1 They’ve always wanted him
      #2 Flores was behind Judge, Williams and Slade and was surplus with Cave soon to be at AAA
      #3 Trading both Flores and Ramirez opens up a valuable 40 man spot

  • dickylarue

    This is sort of what it felt like when the Knicks got Darko Milicic after he bottomed out and all Knick fans thought he’d finally live up to his lottery pick promise now that he was in NY.

    • HoopDreams

      I believe he’s kickboxing these days.

  • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

    It might be just me, but this trade deadline is exhausting.

    Might probably because I go to sleep just when the Trade Deadline Thread is posted, then wake up with all the moves done already.

  • Greggreen

    so, we are pretty much never gonna give ref a chance

  • Texecutioner

    Ackley weirdly reminds me a lot of Stephen Drew. Idk

  • MoneyFloatsMyBoat

    Boy with all this cryin goin on, I can’t wait till the game tonight starts to get a break from this trade deadline fiasco.

    • BigDavey88

      Hopefully the Yankees don’t trail at any point tonight because the season will be OVER.

      TORONTO WINS.

  • YankeesJunkie

    The only angle I can see is Ackley who hit essentially league average last year has put up a horrible BABIP but the same rate of Soft/Med/Hard% this year compared to last year and hoping that he can regress to those numbers. Not very exciting and sad to lose Flores, Ramirez is a meh but both are relatively down.

  • Dos Luises

    Does he have any options left?

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      Nay.

      • Y’s Guy

        Where do you find that out? Why isn’t it on their BR page?

  • Douglas Rau

    He’s like “Ben Zobrist lite” except he doesn’t do any of the things Zobrist does well.

  • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam
    • cxz

      I still love that he’s floating in our system. Would make for the ultimate comeback story.

    • YankeeFan™

      I love this

    • Beauee

      Soon…very soon…

    • My name is Paul Heyman

      Fingers crossed!

  • http://cnn.com/ Magic Rat

    Can anyone name a highly rated young hitter who sucked or otherwise under-performed for the first several years before suddenly putting it together?

    I’m getting Alex Gordon for sure and to lesser degree, Konerko. Moustakas maybe or still too early to say?
    Eric Karros?

    • Septhinox

      Carlos Gomez

    • My name is Paul Heyman

      Maybe the Yankees saw a potential fix on his swing. Maybe they thought a change of stadium could help him. Who knows? But having Ackley, Drew and Ryan on the 25 roster doesnt add up. (That is if ackley replaces jones)

    • Some Asshole

      It’s always too early to say for Moustakas. See you in twenty years.

    • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

      Carlos Gomez

    • Rick

      Jose Bautista, JD Martinez

    • BigDavey88

      Me.

      Just you wait.

    • Re2pect

      there’s plenty of precedent

  • RayVT

    Actually I’m not concerned over adding Ackley. I’m just anxious to add an ARM and maybe a bat too.

  • Re2pect

    catch up mike, we already took over a thread for this lol

  • Yankenstein

    Cash is just getting warmed up.

  • Rick Myles

    What a nothing move by Cashman. He’s Drew with less power and another 20 points of BA. .215 hitter, whoopee. Does nothing to upgrade the position. Just confirms that Refsynder will never play 2B for the Yankees. Expect him to be included in an off season trade. Cashman fiddles while the starting rotation burns.

    • Beauee

      The melodramatic flair was A+.

      • BigDavey88

        The demonic flames of DL trips and inconsistency are too much for Rick Myles!

    • dave_8

      he’s the super-sub — not 2b as yet.

    • ClusterDuck

      This isn’t a “nothing” move. This is a negative move.

  • NH Yankee fan

    Maybe this makes Ref expendable, but damn Ackley doesn’t seem like much of an upgrade at all to 2B. What a weird day! No pitching, Pineda goes down and they pick up a utility guy.

    • Game 3

      He’s not the 2B.

    • Walter Sobchak – Vietnam Vet

      And in a year where Cueto, Hamels and Price were available. Who woulda thunk it. I love that Hamels deal for the Rangers too. If the Yankees wanted to stay away from a rental, he was right there for the taking. But they flat out won’t part with Severino or Judge.

  • Veteran presents

    Cash is gonna flip Ackley to another team.

    • Rick

      Which makes zero sense

      • Veteran presents

        So did this trade

        • Rick

          Not if you actually read the posting that says the Yankees have been after him for years

          • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

            Yeah, the Yanks are the only team with the depth to get Seattle to completely give up on the guy.

            • Rick

              Which has nothing to do with anything

              • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

                No one with the Yankees’ OF and RP depth wanted Ackley as much as they did.

                The Yanks have thought they could fix him for years.

                They’re not trading him.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      The Newark Bears?

  • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

    So, I was looking for old articles about Ackley, and found this:

    “..In addition to the stellar batting, Ackley has also been able to fully transition to his new 2B position, especially when there has been no one else available to fill the slot. His ability to quickly react and close the gap alongside SS Brendan Ryan has caused nightmares for visiting teams.”

    http://baseball.yoexpert.com/major-league-teams/why-is-dustin-ackley-the-best-prospect-in-major-le-3152.html

    Ryan and Ackley re-united!

    • BigDavey88

      The master plan has been revealed!

      • plguzman

        LMAO!!!!

  • Manny

    Interesting thought, what if Pentland or another hitting coach/analytical personnel in the Yankees organization has seen something wrong with his swing that they believe the Mariners haven’t seen or been able to fix. I think that’s worth the risk.

    • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

      Well..you could say that those same people could have seen something in the swing of Young and Didi thay could be fixed…hmmm…

      • Manny

        Exactly. Man Seattle would really hate us if he’s able to turn it around.

        • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

          Quick! Revise the trade and include Smoak!

          • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

            The Blue Jays already fixed Smoak, haha

    • craig

      Al from Miami would probably buy them a lot of blowjobs for the rest of the year if that’s the case.

      I actually think it says that in his contract somewhere.

    • Re2pect

      people always say mariners dont develop guys

    • My name is Paul Heyman

      Arod da gawd is going to help him just like he did with Didi

    • Deep Thoughts

      It’s certainly possible. Their approach for two managerial regimes, going back to Wedgie, was some variation of “Be aggressive,” “Swing away,” etc. It would not surprise me if their P/PA was at the bottom of the league.

  • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam
    • cxz

      So, trade coming or something? 25-man looks crunched

      • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

        Goody is replacing Pineda due to 10-day rule you’d think. Mitchell, Caleb Cotham was optioned.

      • cashmoney

        Diego Moreno, Jones and Pineda on DL.

        • Adam

          Moreno and jones?

          • cashmoney

            I assume they DFA Jones, sent down Moreno for Mitchell and replace goody with Pineda’s spot?

    • Tom

      Maybe this time, Goody will be brought into a game.

      • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

        Hopefully. At least Cotham got a chance.

  • dave_8

    Shouldnt we be talking to the Cubs about Castro if they’re pushing him?

    • Re2pect

      they prob want what we need. SP

      • dave_8

        idk. kinda strange that there’s a sudden aggressive push. you’d think his name would’ve been out there much earlier than now.

  • Rick

    Ackley is essentially Ben Zobrist minus Ben Zobrist

    • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

      So he is…nothing?

      • BigDavey88

        He is not real. He is a vision who’s sole purpose is to torment the sports mongo.

        • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

          He is The Vision!

    • Some Asshole

      I’ve enjoyed Garfield Minus Garfield, so I may enjoy this.

    • craig

      I laughed

    • blake

      He’s a bankrupt mans zobrist

  • captainmike

    Seattle fans were happy to see Dustin go

    • Rick

      Did they anoint you their spokesperson?

    • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

      They were also happy to get Abraham Almonte for Shawn Kelley, so…

  • Some Asshole

    It’s official, everyone!

    BOSTON TORONTO is laughing at us!!

    http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/783/439/3439783.gif

    • Walter Sobchak – Vietnam Vet

      Wonder if we’ll even be able to hear them from all the way down the standings

    • Still Stucky

      BEST. 500. TEAM. EVER

  • YankeeFan™
  • Centaur Hips

    Another Yanks Mariners trade, huh? I do think Ackley is better than he has shown and the switch is ballparks is a sizable boost, but I’m not in love with this. Typical low cost Cash move grabbing an under-performing player. We’ll see how they’ll use him, but offensively he might be an upgrade over either Jones or Drew.

  • dayanks

    You’re telling me a 27 year old former 1st round pick who got off to a slow start in a pitcher’s park and moving to a hitter-friendly, short left porch YS with Pentland already working miracles this season for two dispensable prospects?

    It’s worth a try.

    • Walter Sobchak – Vietnam Vet

      Your definition of a “slow start” needs work.

      • dayanks

        Frazier is 28 and got off to a slow start. Batista, JD, Cargo all got off to slow starts. It’s worh the gamble.

        • RayVT

          Don’t use logic on us Yankee Fans! We just missed out on Price & Hamels & now we get Dustin & it isn’t even Peds!

    • Mayan Brickann

      He hasn’t been able to hit away from Safeco either. Road #s are actually better, though they are still putrid. As you say, no harm in this, but he’s terrible.

      • dayanks

        So was Chris Young last year.

        • Mayan Brickann

          Good point. He comps somewhat favorably with 4th outfielders and utility infielders.

    • RayVT

      I agree! It is worth a shot.

    • dave_8

      not exciting — but I’m kinda with you. JRam? eh, he’ll throw hard with no command forever. Flores, 4th OF? — both more likely AAAA rather than haunting you for trading them

    • IVoted4Kodos

      In 17 games and 54 at bats, he’s hit .296/.397/.481 in YS.

      Meaningless, really, but I bet the scouts/coaching staff sees something that they like or think they can fix.

      • dayanks

        Exactly. He could be Chrs Young 2.0 and he’s only 27!

        • IVoted4Kodos

          He’s also been better in June and July than he was at the start of the year.

          Not a big move, but also really nothing to whine about.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    I hope he comes with some nicely cooked salmon.

    • Some Asshole

      *indistinct babble that Tim Salmon would be a better choice than Ackley*

    • Tom

      The Salmon who played RF for Anaheim?

      • Robinson Tilapia

        As Chris Berman would say, “Tim ‘Sock-eye’ Salmon!”

    • dickylarue

      “I’d prefer Trout” spoken in Comic Book Guy voice.

    • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

      I’d prefer another fish, personally.

  • Deep Thoughts
    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      There will be more.

  • Rob

    Is he gluten free?

    • dickylarue

      You bet your ass he is.

      • BigDavey88

        “Gluten is the root of all evil and keeps you out of the hall of fame.” – Babe Ruth

        • Rob

          No, “The love of gluten is the root of all evil.” Not gluten itself.

          • BigDavey88

            “I am gluten.” Stephen Drew

            • Rob

              Joe Girardi to Stephen Drew, “If loving you is wrong, I don’t wanna be right.”

  • ClusterDuck

    Yanks have too many good prospects so what does Cashman do. He trades one prospect Flores and buries another Refsynder all to aquire a guy who hasn’t played second base in several years and who has a – 1.1 WAR this year.

    • dickylarue

      You dare question him? He’s smarter than all of us put together!

      • OscarGamblesAfro

        Your signature picture…now THATS amore!

      • Some Asshole

        …that’s not saying much.

        Self and board commentariat SLAM!! Boom!

  • InvalidUserID

    Would have rather just tried Ref.

    • dave_8

      Ackley’s not taking over 2b. super-sub

  • Robert

    Good luck to Ramon Flores. Saw him play at Trenton always professional a great arm an above average fielder.
    Was always in the shadow of Mason,Slade and Tyler.
    I think Seattle may have gotten a starter.

  • Centaur Hips

    http://www.fangraphs.com/statsd.aspx?playerid=10099&position=2B/OF&type=&gds=2015-07-01&gde=2015-07-29&season=

    He does have a 120 wRC+ in July but in only 38 PA… Not like he’s torn it up lately… wonder what they’re thinking here.

    • cxz

      They must have just really wanted that 40-man spot. That’s all I can think of.

    • Mayan Brickann

      Probably something like “He’s been a considerably below average player for the past 4 seasons. Time to move on”

      • Centaur Hips

        He was pretty good in 2011 and decent last year but yeah not much of an impact.

  • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

    Baseless speculation:

    Mitchell retains his 55
    Goody claims 65 (despite wearing 64 before)
    Ackley takes 26.

    • Some Asshole

      Number 26 in reality, but not in our hearts.

    • YankeeFan™

      I knew Ackley was taking 26.

      • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

        I said baseless speculation, not reality.

        • YankeeFan™

          Lol sorry miss that part as I scrolled up lol

  • OscarGamblesAfro

    First and perhaps last time nearly 500 people write,speak or think about Dustin Ackley

    • Some Asshole

      Nick Noonan still exists.

    • BigDavey88

      I’m pretty entertained.

  • nyjchris

    This has nothing to do with 2B or Ref. Ackley’s here to be a utility player. Girardi just said it. As usual everyone only wants to complain about Drew.

    • BigDavey88

      But Drew stole my credit cards!

      • Some Asshole

        Classic Droo.

      • Scheister of Doom

        Then you have a gripe. It’s your money and you need it now!

    • John

      The same way he said ref is here to stay and its not a 3 day audition. Then he played 1 more game and was sent down.

  • MG2015

    Andrew Bailey was promoted to Scranton today, he will be with the Yankees soon and that could put Warren back in the rotation…

    • dave_8

      Bailey’s more interesting to me than Jose Ramirez.

  • DM

    I think they are going to trade Gardner (my favorite player) for pitching. Better be for an ace.

    • Aldukes

      why do you think that?

      • DM

        Heard talking to SD Upton and starter to NY for Gardner. Hung up on the starter.

  • goose

    Canyon of Heroes here we come.

    • OscarGamblesAfro

      Lol! Just as they were about to drop the Andy Stankowitz plaque on us..

  • Dan A.

    I get thinking Ackley can turn it around, I get that he’s been better the last 2 months, I get wanting to have a utility guy, and needing to clear out some 40-man spots.

    But, unless something else happens, this deal’s a head scratcher. They’re not starting Ackley at second, so they either will cut Ryan, so then both second baseman will be Lefties (unlikely). Or Jones, so they won’t have a back up first baseman, and no lefty-power off the bench. The only way this makes sense is for it to be the precursor to something.

    • Veteran presents

      Hopefully. Cash Ninja!

    • MG2015

      It could just be they see Ackley as an upgrade over Jones and will move Jones before the deadline…

      • Dan A.

        But then no lefty power on the bench. That seems to me to be the bigger need for the Yanks than who they’re getting in Ackley.

        • MG2015

          he hit more HRs than Cano last year in Seattle…

    • Walter Sobchak – Vietnam Vet

      I think the move just plain doesn’t make sense. But too small a move to get worked up over. They’ve been after Ackley for a while so apparently they see something in him. Either they’ll be right or they’ll be wrong.

    • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

      They very well might start Ackley at 2B. He’s not much worse than Drew, and he’s much more talented.

      Also, we didn’t give up anything to get him, either.

  • Scheister of Doom

    Sooooo…just when you think the Yanks can’t get a worse option for second-base, they do. Who’s the 25 man casualty?

    • Veteran presents

      CC

      • Scheister of Doom

        Chris Capuano, or the other CC that replaced him?

        • Veteran presents

          Shit, too many CCs on our team.

    • Still Stucky

      Bitter and misinformed.

      Potent combo.

      • Scheister of Doom

        I’m not bitter nor misinformed. Look up the definition of “option”.

        Sarcastically ignorant, a pungent combo.

        • Still Stucky

          He’s not going to be the second baseman.

          • Scheister of Doom

            An option at second, it what it says above. You’d be foolish to think he’s not going to play at the weakest position on the team, being a former second-baseman and all.

  • gageagainstthemachine

    Am I too late to the fun?!

    • Some Asshole

      Not at all! We still have your suicidal needs here. Some punch…some shotgun shells…a toaster. Have at it.

      • gageagainstthemachine

        I just couldn’t resist posting a Bill the Cat picture.

      • Big Tasty

        the toaster plugged in next to the bath tub?

        • Some Asshole

          Yeah, that one, but I’ve got a bagel in there.

  • Rick

    Well … I for one am looking forward to Dustin Ackley’s big debut tomorrow night. Or game winning hit tonight if he is going to Texas.

    • OscarGamblesAfro

      I for one welcome our utility infielder overlord

    • Mayan Brickann

      Wouldn’t expect to see him til Sunday. Last I saw of him suggests that it will take 3 days to shave his beard.

  • NYYFanFromThePhilippines

    Okay okay, let’s try to inject some positives to this thread:

    What are the positives from this trade? Aaand go!

    • BigDavey88

      I got more reading material.

    • goose

      Ackley’s beard is going away.

    • Still Stucky

      Garrett Jones with a middle infielders glove.

      • John

        Ackley has no power. At least jones could run into 1 once in a while

    • John

      None!!’you have a player worse than drew who is not as good def. Plus it definitely blocks ref from playing 2b. All negatives. Ohh and you wasted 2 decent assets in Flores and Ramirez

    • Ewing33

      Former 2nd overall pick in the draft “developed” by a team that seemingly can’t develop a hitting prospect to save their lives.

    • Mayan Brickann

      Nobody died.

      • Some Asshole

        RIP one-name rando commenters.

    • Douglas Rau

      I just saved a ton of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico!

  • Big Tasty

    what is Sterling’s HR call for Ackley going to be? lol

    • Mike Myers

      a HACK from ACK!

      • Mike Myers

        A dinger from Dustin!

      • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

        Sterling’s from “ACK!”?

    • Some Asshole

      “I don’t know who that guy is, but you just can’t predict it, Suzyn. You just can’t! The ball boy hits a home run!”

      • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

        We’re still waiting on that first Brendan Ryan home run since Fenway in 2013.

        • Some Asshole

          Don’t want to mess with perfection.

          • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

            I want Ryan to hit a HR damn it.

            • Some Asshole

              It’ll get by Toronto’s outfield for an inside the parker.

      • JacobyWanKenobi

        “That one is swung on and THERE IT GOES TO DEEP RIGHT, IT IS HIGH IT IS FAR IT IS GOOOONE, HOW DO YA LIKE THAT!? I’M PRETTY SURE THAT WAS NIX!”

        Suzyn: “You’re right John, that was definitely Nix, and he just does something every game!”

    • BigDavey88

      Way backley for Ackley!

      woof

      • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

        That doesn’t even sound good just reading it.

        • BigDavey88

          Then it’s probably the one.

          OHHH MCCANN CAN YES MCCANN CANNNNNNN!

      • Some Asshole

        Berman-esque.

        • BigDavey88

          Where’s my millions?

          • Some Asshole

            Berman spent yours all on those weight-loss cookies.

    • W.B. Mason Williams

      The implication here is that he’s going to hit a home run.

      • Still Stucky

        Owe me a Coke.

    • Still Stucky

      There is a good chance that may forever remain conjecture.

      • Big Tasty

        lol

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      Holy Ackley!

    • dickylarue

      Dustin the Wind!

    • Veteran presents

      Stephen Drew. How do you do?

    • Big Tasty

      Dustin…. flashing the tungsten. Ackley lights up the right field seats! (bows head in shame)

    • KranmarMysteryDelicious

      Dunno, but Sterling will never get a chance to say it. Ackley won’y hit any dingers.

    • Patrick

      We’ll never know ..

    • Big Tasty
      • Some Asshole

        I can’t believe he managed to hack that off before nightfall.

        • TheEvilUmpire

          $2.6m can buy a decent chainsaw.

        • Big Tasty

          he had some help…

      • Rob

        He looks like Nick Swisher.

    • gageagainstthemachine

      “I bet that fucking kid is happy to be out of perennial loser town Seattle! Did you predict that Suzyn? I bet you didn’t, you one line hack job waste of space in my booth! Asshats all around me!!”

      Probably not. But I’d love to hear it.

  • Mike Myers
  • dave_8

    I think the bigger news is Girardi not seeming to be too worried about Pineda and Nova.

  • Farewell Mo and Jeet

    Jeez, at least Ramirez has some potential and Flores could have been a useful 4th outfielder. We already know beyond much doubt that Ackley is basically worthless.

    • LazerTown

      I have no faith that Jose will learn to throw strikes.

      • Farewell Mo and Jeet

        Do you have faith that Ackley will be any better than Ryan or Drew?

  • LazerTown

    So, the chicken littles spent all week moaning and groaning that Cash has done nothing. This place must have been pleasant all afternoon now.

  • Ewing33

    I always liked Flores but so did Seattle obviously. Will give Cash benefit of the doubt that they like something about Ackley. Don’t really know him at all.

  • dkidd

    does girardi go with dusty or acky?

    • Mike Myers

      Dust-ie

  • BD11

    The Empire Strikes Back!! Ack ack! #EricTheMidget

  • W.B. Mason Williams

    Not sure where I see the added value here.

    • dayanks

      No immediate value, just high upside for value

  • grandedan

    Why couldn’t Flores have replaced Jones? Flores has played some 1b. Is Ackely a sure fire better player than Flores? Is it because of his .243 career major league BA or because, compared to Flores, Ackley is as Bill James put it 30 years ago “established major league talent.”

    This is what the Yanks always seem to do with position players. They give the job and all their patience to bad vets and let their own home grown players toil away in the minors or go somewhere else.

    A younger Drew, but still Drew II.

    • Rick

      If he turns into Drew of the last month and a half for the rest of the season, we made out very well.

      • grandedan

        That must be it. The Yankee analytics dept must have determined he’s just bout to get hot.

        • Pete22

          They already got Drew and his 799 OPS since June 1

          • grandedan

            And his 76 OPS+ for this year and his 38 OPS+ for last.

        • Rick

          I know. It’s a shame it didn’t work last year with McCarthy, Headley and Prado

          • grandedan

            Or Soriano, or Roberts, or Drew, or Ryan. . . .

            • Rick

              Soriano wasn’t good after they acquired him at the deadline? Weird. Your memory must not be serving you right. Roberts was not a trade deadline acquisition and neither was Ryan. So let’s see, 4 hits and 1 miss. I’ll take that.

              • grandedan

                No but they played Soriano SIX WEEKs after MY analytics dept reported he was done when his SO to BB ratio was 10 to 1 in late May. They also played Roberts more than six weeks after MY analytics dept reported he was done and should have been playing Pirela everyday by LAST June 15th. Had they followed MY analytics dept, we’d know a whole lot more about Pirela now than we do and may not even had to put up with Drew’s sub 70 OPS+ for two seasons. And Ryan? Well you don’t even need an analytics dept to know paying him millions of dollars to stay on your roster is a huge mistake.

                Hey, but maybe they know something about Ackley that no one else does.

                • Rick

                  What you’re talking about has nothing to do with the analytics department liking someone at the deadline … which they’ve proven to be very successful at.

                  • grandedan

                    Reports on twitter say this Ackley acquisition was prompted by the analytics dept claiming he’s better than his numbers. We shall see if they are as right with him as they have been with the first Stephen Drew.

    • Still Stucky

      Flores can play second?

      • grandedan

        I doubt very much he plays 2b this year. And he hasn’t played it for two years anyway. As long as Drew and Ryan are on the roster, Ackley is stuck in the OF or perhaps some 1b.

        • Still Stucky

          If for the foreseeable future, Drew and Ryan platoon, Ackley will fill Jones’ role AND provide an bat off the bench and glove as you mix and match for Drew or Ryan.

  • dlcb

    I don’t see what the problem is here. Ackley has been slightly above average defensively at second base for his entire career. Last year he was a league average hitter, and he has 2.4 years of team control left. And they acquired Ackley when his value was at its lowest point. Isn’t that what you’re supposed to do? This year, Ackley can serve as a utility player and next year he can battle Refsnyder for second base duties. Too many people are overreacting to a bad half season.

    • Ewing33

      Yea, I like it in this sense too. We need to add more middle infield depth and we still have OF depth to spare.

    • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

      Yup. It’s a clear buy-low move, and they only expended expendable players for it.

    • grandedan

      But is he better than Flores, who has SIX years of control left? We’re going to find out won’t we? And it’s unclear if the Yanks see Ackley as a long term 2b. Hasn’t played there in two years.

  • Mandy Stankiewicz

    THE DODGERS GET PERAZA? And LATOS? Damn!
    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/07/dodgers-nearing-deal-to-acquire-mat-latos-michael-morse.html
    What does LA’s AAA infield look like???
    I feel like that team has 50 guys on the roster.

    • Aldukes

      and WE GET…… ACKLEY!

      • TheEvilUmpire

        I had bad Ackley in high school. Sad to say, I wasn’t very popular with the girls!

    • Some Asshole

      The Dodgers also took on the cost of feeding Ethiopia for a year.

      • dickylarue

        All for the price of a cup of coffee.

    • Pat M

      The days of McCourt seems like light years ago…. A case where money meets brains

    • TripleShortOfACycle

      Its ok we got Ackley

      • Mandy Stankiewicz

        See that McCann shot?!

        • TripleShortOfACycle

          Candyman

  • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

    “Which is why Yankees manager Joe Girardi said he recently told the head of the team’s minor-league department, “We’ve got to create one.”

    Avelino to the rescue in 2018!

  • JacobyWanKenobi

    Orioles MiL player hit a 2 run shot to take the lead in the 9th, didn’t touch home and the team lost. Lol

  • RANDALLK34

    Wahh Wahh so many cry babies

  • Centaur Hips
  • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam
    • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

      Good for the Pirates. I’ve always liked that group of guys (not as much as the Nats, though. I love half the players on that team).

  • MB923

    A closer is about to be off the board. Pirates are about to get Soria. Not that Yanks or anyone here is interested, but just pointing it out.

    • Aldukes

      OMG

    • Veteran presents

      Melancon?

    • cxz

      Nice. The Pirates are probably my favorite non Yankee team.

  • drewskie

    I’m going to miss Flores wish we traded him for something better

    • MB923

      What is there to miss about him? His walkoff HR in Spring Training?

      • drewskie

        His cannon arm andhe has plate discipline

        • MB923

          Well he did have a cannon arm in his short appearance in the bigs. 2 OF assists in 15 games. Plate discipline? Well, not yet at the majors with his zero walks in 33 PA (Yes, well aware it’s a SSS)

      • cashmoney

        for one, he is better of than Ackley. He maybe be a better player than Ackley given the opportunity. He always been an average, obp guy who most doesn’t think will generate enough power for corner position. but you know, what’s to miss about Ackley? Ackley has more versatility that’s about it.

    • Ewing33

      Lets see what the lefty Ackley can do in a stadium that isn’t death on lefties. Fucking Cano can barely hit there.

      • Veteran presents

        So Ack will put up Cano-like #s here?

        • Game 3

          I’m calling it. Yes.

        • Ewing33

          Yes.

        • TheEvilUmpire

          Ruth-like numbers!

          • Evan3457

            Ruth…Buzzi?

      • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

        Yup.

        Not to mention getting him into an org that has developed more than one above average hitter in the last 15 years.

  • John in Forest

    Clears two guys who had no real future in the Bronx off the 40-man roster. Has played LF and CF this year, played 1B in college, and was primarily a 2B until the Mariners acquired Cano. He’s spent three years in a majors while Flores and Ramirez are still trying to establish themselves. It’s not a move that had to be made, but I don’t see any real problems with it. It means something else is coming, though — Drew, Ryan, and Jones don’t all stay in New York once Ackley reports.

  • Mike Myers

    Maybe Ackley learned how not to hit from Cano and will be good once he comes to the yanks?

    • Big Tasty

      cano has been raking lately before his ab strain

  • YankeeFan™

    im not stressing that we lost Flores and Ramirez we have plenty of outfield depth and plenty of minor league bullpen arms.

    • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

      Seriously. We traded our 4th best AAA OF and our 5th best AAA reliever for an extremely talented 27 year old, who’s sucked to this point in time.

      I don’t understand why anyone cares.

      • Pat M

        Those 4th and 5th players they really aren’t that good…

      • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

        a yankee fan??? ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

        • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

          Yes, and I know more than your dumb ass does about the Phillies, not to mention the Eagles.

          • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

            we already summed up you dont know nothing about the eagles. did u forget? you think kendricks is a more sound player than ryans, not even kendricks will tell you that. step it up baby cakes.

            • Call Me Carlos the Dwarf

              Do you ever break character?

              I mean, your opinions are so self-evidently wrong, and the fact that you stalked my profile to another site so hilariously pathetic, that I have to assume this is a gimmick account.

              • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

                yeah you know if we take out the fact that im right, id be wrong.. thats your sound logic huh? ahahahahaha didnt have to go to another site its all right on your disqus profile son, see you dont even understand how that works!! step it up dwarf. or should i say.. troll!!! ahahahahah

  • TheEvilUmpire

    If Ackley is a small piece of the trade deadline haul, then I’m ok with it. If this is it, then somebody needs to be fired!

    • Still Stucky

      [statement agreeing with a conclusion no rational person actually believes will occur]

      And you can quote me!!

    • https://www.facebook.com/daniel.wasserman.35 nsalem

      Sometime the best move is no move at all.

  • ClusterDuck

    And Sterlings call is…

    Finally a homerun from Ack.
    Rather have Flores back.

    • Game 3

      Ack Ack!!! It’s a GEICO homerun!!!

    • feztonio

      Ackley — goes smackley ??? or … “he Dusted one!!!”

  • Centaur Hips

    Anyone else notice all the low BABIP hitters on the team? Tex, McCann, Drew, Jones… now Ackley

    • dayanks

      because shifts suck

    • LazerTown

      Slow players tend to have lower BABIP.

      • Centaur Hips

        Usually has more to do with good contact and line drives than speed.

  • RANDALLK34

    Flores stinks, who cares

  • dkidd

    eppler’s staff and the analytics crew kick ass so i’m actually excited that they see something

  • Mike Myers

    Sterling “Well Ackley was just traded for mike trout. i tell ya, you cant predict baseball!?

  • YankeeFan™

    just notice the yankees and red sox both have a dustin lol.

    • MB923

      They did a couple of years ago too. We had Dustin Mosely.

      • YankeeFan™

        ohh yea i remember him.we got him from the Angels i believe.

  • Walter Sobchak – Vietnam Vet

    I choose to hold out hope for Ross & Kimbrel

    • MB923

      Or Leake and Chapman. Though don’t rule out Shields and Kimbrel.

  • RayVT

    Even Montero couldn’t hit at Safeco

  • Tar

    Ackley was one of the best college hitters you will see. I’m down with trying to figure out what went wrong in Seattle…especially given their track record of making good hitters bad.

    • John

      The big leagues are not college.

      • Tar

        I realize that…… but he destroyed College pitching.

        • Pat M

          Tar, a month from Ackley will be loved here at the house of fickle RAB. I’m betting 90 % of the folks commenting on him never seen him play ball. He’s going to be an assist. Dude was a great NCAA stick .

          • Tar

            Hey Pat M!

            .412 .487 .648 Was Ack’s career line at UNC. That’s impressive and no small sample either.

            What do you think about Castro? Looks like Theo wants to move him

            • Pat M

              Theo has been wanting to move Castro ever since he took over basically. Word is he’d move Baez as well if the right deal comes along. Castro is a star … Always hoped the The Bombers could get him

            • John

              That was yrz ago.

          • JGMAN1

            Any idea why he hasn’t lived up to the college career as a pro? Seriously, I’m interested in your opinion. What’s your take on Heathcott and Refsnyder?

            • John

              Refs has not been given a chance yet. And Heathcott well we all know about the injuries and alcohol problems. Ackley is a lifetime .240 hitter in the bigs. Terrible move

              • JGMAN1

                I’m not sure it will be a move of any real consequence. I don’t see Ackley as an defensive upgrade at second to Ryan or Drew. I’d like to see Heathcott get a legit chance when he’s healthy again. I really don’t know what Ackley brings to the table aside from a great college career. Is he a MLB version of Tim Tebow?

            • Pat M

              I think once they signed Cano and he was shifted to a corner outfield he changed his approach to hitting. More punch rather than line drive type hitting

    • ClusterDuck

      Ref was College World Series MVP. I’m down with giving him a chance.

    • BigDavey88

      “especially given their [recent] track record of making good hitters bad.”

      This is key.

      Maybe it’ll work out.

  • Jerek Deter

    Ackley > Cano

    • Mike Myers

      your trolling > that others trolling

      • Jerek Deter

        Lol in all seriousness I think Ackley is going to do fine

        • Mike Myers

          we can hope. at least we will have new face of suck. im tired of Drews.

          • TheEvilUmpire

            There are some prostitutes on the Vegas strip who will contest that title!

        • Bo S8

          Totally agree. Could we at least take a look before getting into the shrieking tizzies.

    • dickylarue

      Frankly, it had to be said.

  • feztonio

    sooo will cashman be doing mass quantities of drugs right up until the deadline or is he going to sober up a bit for the last few hours?

    • dickylarue

      He’s been high since Sunday.

      • Still Stucky

        High on the farm system.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      Quaaludes.

  • Vern Sneaker

    Organizational “depth” for when Refsnyder’s traded tomorrow?

    • https://www.facebook.com/daniel.wasserman.35 nsalem

      Would not be surprised.

  • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

    a good signing as a utility infielder but we need a starting pitcher. What does that mean for the guys we already have in that role? What was the rationale for picking up someone like Ackley?

    • Still Stucky

      That first thing you wrote.

  • Tom

    “Ackley hits one deep to left center, it is high it is far it issssss gone!!! Ackley sends one backey. Suzyn you just can’t predict baseball.”

    • ABS

      nah “Dustin Just Dusted it”

      • vwnut13

        “Dustin didn’t dwarf that one!”

  • https://www.facebook.com/daniel.wasserman.35 nsalem

    .878 OPS at YS3 in 65 PA lets see what happens.

    • Bo S8

      Yep

      A voice of reason

      • https://www.facebook.com/daniel.wasserman.35 nsalem

        He has always played well here . I don’t think he can sustain those numbers over the course of a season but in a much larger sample size Cano’s lifetime OBP in YS3 was 94 points higher than Safeco . (.906 to .812) . I think its reasonable to believe that Ackley could OPB around .750 at YS3. If you combine that with his .680 lifetime road OBP he would come in around .715. He’s also a decent fielder so it seems like it be a step above what we have. I’m excited to have him. Respectfully disagree with Mike’s “meh” assessment.

        • Bo S8

          Yep

          I was totally pleased with the trade, a Great buy low in my opinion. Saw the 91 DPs turned which is a good tell on D and that looks good. Average to above range according to the numbers. All the pointers are for a great get.

          So got here and it’s bedlam

          What!

  • Pete22

    The problem with Ackley is he is your starting 2Bman next year. Drew is gone after this year. Refsnyder fans weeping, weeping, weeping. Sob.

    • Still Stucky

      What will Apple’s stock price be on Easter?

    • Veteran presents

      At least Refs bats righty. They could use both, platoon.

    • MB923

      I’m not sure how up to date it is, but MLBTR lists 16 (Sixteen) 2B as FA next year. There’s also these things called Trades.

  • Mike Myers

    So Ackley and AROD are the highest drafted players on the team now?

  • Conwaymente Jay

    Paul O’Neill-ish move?

  • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam
    • cxz

      He looks like 13 now.

      • Mike Myers

        maybe he will be faster now minus the hair weight

    • Veteran presents

      Get rid of that ugly Toronto colored shirt at least.

    • OscarGamblesAfro

      Ok he looks like a young Brian Cashman…now the trade makes sence

    • Rob

      It’s Nick Swisher’s fraternal twin.

    • m_pemulis

      Kinda has a creepy resemblance to Cashman…

  • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

    Seattle to hitting prospects is what Baltimore is to Pitching prospects…

    THINK ABOUT DAT SHIT FOR A MIN LITTLE HOMIE!!

  • JacobyWanKenobi

    Tigers: “We have the worst bullpen ever, let’s get rid of pitchers!”

    • Veteran presents

      I thought they traded for 3 southpaws today.

    • Adam

      He was going to be a FA anyway.

    • HoopDreams

      Their season is over anyways.

      • JacobyWanKenobi

        Yeah lol, I JUST realized they were 12.5 back

  • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

    the city of Toronto is abuzz over the signing of Price. They’re going nuts. They’ve already mapped out the parade route down Yonge Street after the Jays win the WS. Man, this is depressing to listen to. They admit it’s probably only a rental because the Blue Jays won’t be able to sign him given the length and cost of the contract after the end of the season.

    • Rick

      Toronto signed Price?

      • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

        yes, he’s officially a Blue Jay

        • Rick

          They traded for Price. Like you said, he won’t be in Toronto for more than 10 starts.

          • http://yankeecanada.com/ Bob(bobby) M.

            gave up some good young prospects to get him. They’re stocking up to win the WS this year and hopefully save AA’s and the manager’s job

    • John

      The same way the BoSox were suppose to be in 1st Nd the yanks in 4th right. They need to play the games and Price is not going to pitch everyday

  • jmpnyy

    Reysnyder + more to SD for Kimbrel or SP

    • MB923

      How bout Kimbrel And a SP. At this point, I don’t really care who. Ross, Cashner, Shields, IPK, Whoever.

      • TheEvilUmpire

        Eddie Whitson?

    • Pat M

      Will Hal tear up his no more salary memo ???? Kimbrel or Chapman would work

    • LazerTown

      Why?

      He isn’t particularly cheap.

      • vwnut13

        Because Shreve, Betances, Miller, Kimbrel is NASTY.

  • InvalidUserID

    Whats the consensus on what the Dodgers gave up vs what they received? I won’t pretend to know any of those prospects but looks like the Dodgers picked up some good talent.

    • Rick

      It seems like they got a lot more back than they gave up. Peraza is a solid prospect, Wood is a nice young lefty and Latos just blows. Jim Johnson is a nice little addition to their pen. The prize they gave up was Olivera and he’s a 30 y/o prospect at this point – so no one knows what he is.

      • InvalidUserID

        That’s what I’m trying to look at. It looks like they got a lot in return and really just absorbed more payroll.

  • JacobyWanKenobi
  • HoopDreams

    This tweet made me laugh more than it should have. https://twitter.com/ror925/status/626855149437349889

  • JacobyWanKenobi

    Gotta love MKS, deadline is tomorrow, a lot of stuff is happening with the yankees, spend an hour and half talking about the jets

  • JacobyWanKenobi

    Dodgers have 79.2MM owed to players who are not on the 25man roster

    • MB923

      Yikes.

    • Pat M

      Total of 85 million in total. They have tons and tons of dough

  • Dan A.

    We'll talk to Girardi soon, but I'm told by someone that the plan is to use Ackley at second base. Hmmm. Perhaps Drew is on the move?— Mark Feinsand (@FeinsandNYDN) July 30, 2015

    Okay, I’m just going to wait until 4 PM tomorrow to figure out what the hell is going on with this move exactly.

    • TheEvilUmpire

      Back to the Red Sox, where he belongs.

    • Rick

      That probably is the plan. Use him at second and in the OF as a utility guy. That tweet doesn’t say they plan to use him there full time.

    • Tar

      I’m thinking Drew is gone in a trade. Thank god he hit those HR’s at least someone will want him.

      • Patrick

        Who in their right mind would trade anything for Drew?

      • dave_8

        Girardi said Ackley is a super-sub.Then mentioned Drew playing 2b.

        • MB923

          If true, I guess bye to Ryan or Jones.

    • dave_8

      Girardi spelled it out on FAN at 5pm

      • Adam

        Care to share?

        • dave_8

          I did in another thread. He’ll play everywhere. He’s not here to be the 2B.

      • Dan A.

        I heard that. But until he’s on the active 25 man roster, it could just be a smoke screen. Girardi said on FAN they had no plan to use a youngster at second, the same week the called up Refsnyder for 4 games. So…

        • dave_8

          The old Nick Swisher is our 1st baseman trick? Bubba Crosby? Idk. It makes sense since Ackley hasn’t been playing a lot of 2b recently.

    • Centaur Hips

      Well he was a good defensive 2B before he moved to the outfield. I think he’s probably a utility type that might see time at 2nd. I’m wondering if this is the end for Jones, Drew or Ryan. If it’s Jones they really don’t have a back up at 1st though.

      • Bertin Lefkovic

        I would move Jones. Picking him up was a great idea when you didn’t know what you were going to get from A-Rod, Beltran, or Tex, but better to have 4 players who can play the middle infield positions than Jones, who gets almost no playing time.

        • Big Tasty

          soria is on the pirates now

      • Hank

        Brendan Ryan! (I’m only half kidding – he’s played there before)

        I assume without any other moves it would be McCann.

        They only have to ride that out for a month and then when the rosters expand they could pick someone up or even callup org filler like Roller to give Tex a breather.

  • SweetSpot

    Possibly a positioning move and precursor to something else by Stealth.

  • Bertin Lefkovic

    Ackley to the Marlins for Prado?

  • Austinmac

    It seems people are aghast at the possibility Refsnyder could be traded. First, we have no such information. Second, he has flaws as a player. His defense is still a bit scary.

    One use of prospects is for trade. If he can bring something more useful, it’s okay with me.

    • nyjchris

      Why is everyone so in love with him?

      • Ewing33

        They aren’t. They just think he is better than Drew and probably has been for almost two years now.

        • nyjchris

          I think he could be. But playing him creates a ? on defense and his bat is far from a sure thing as well. I think Cash thinks that at this point in time there’s no need to rock the boat

      • Big Tasty

        i cant speak for anyone else but i have an asian fetish

      • Austinmac

        We are in love with any possible good young player. There haven’t been many position ones.

    • n0exit

      Who cares is Refs gets traded? Second division regular guys. That’s it.

  • gageagainstthemachine

    I feel like it’s been a long week waiting and regardless of who, what, and when, RAB commenters were going to be like this when the opportunity presented itself…
    http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/fireworks.gif

    • Havok9120

      You just wanted to use that GIF.

      • gageagainstthemachine

        Hold on now…
        Have you ever read all the comments on here about people’s erections for baseball/prospects/trades? Moncada was enough to make you go mad…
        Ironically enough, this would be my first one..

    • cashmoney

      only if Suzyn Waldman is on the receiving end of this spectacle.

  • Hank

    All kidding aside I think this might be a minor upgrade,, just don’t see this as a priority or need.

    There’s a small chance he starts hitting and he becomes a better fielding version of Jones at the corner OF spot with less power (but perhaps better hitting?). will be interesting to see who the 25 man casualty is but I assume it will be Jones?

    I also think the Yankees will start giving him a few games at 2nd just to see if he’s still OK there defensively and if he’s starts hitting as a bench piece they could cut Drew somewhere down the line (late August/Sept?) and install him as a 2nd baseman. Though that’s a lot of if’s.

    Part of this also may be a look at him in terms of a possible 2nd baseman option in 2016 (if he hits over the next 2 months and shows he can still play 2nd base with some spot starts there in 2015)

    • RayVT

      If anyone is going it has to be Ryan. Ryan is almost always injured and is not a hitter. Ryan & Drew are duplicates, but Drew is a better hitter. Ouch!

    • n0exit

      I think its pretty safe to assume that Ackley was acquired to play second.

      • nyjchris

        Well Girardi said on the fan the exact opposite

        • n0exit

          Yea I said the pre Girardi’s “indications”. We’ll see, I have a feeling he ends up starting 2B.

  • jmpnyy

    Ryan because it’s costs less $ for either side or Yanks to eat contract. Option only is the problem.buyout?

  • TripleShortOfACycle

    Are the Mets going to resume this game?

    • nyjchris

      yea at 6:25

  • n0exit

    Good pickup. Solid upside. While anything could happen, the Yankees have been chasing Ackley for a while (so much so that even yours truly could see this coming in June) so I doubt he goes anywhere. Let’s see what cash can do with the mid level guys on the pitching side.

    Wonder if the DFA avoider stays and Drew goes.

  • dave_8

    Hits pretty well at YS. Probably 2nd only to Minute Maid.

    • Austinmac

      You never know if that is the stadium or the pitching.

      • dave_8

        yeah, but I think you never know anything sometimes.

        I think the Yankees have a cogent rationale despite it not being clear to us. He’s been on their radar in the past. They see something in him.

      • renzostew

        Ackley has hit better at Seattle this year he is bad on the road at .146

  • duckwellies

    “It is high, it is far, it isssss gone! Ack-ack guns one over the right field wall! Oh, Dustin ain’t rustin’!

    (Fans, that ball knocked a man’s teeth out in the seventh row…and that seventh row tooth extraction is brought to you by ‘Seventh Day Adventist Dentists’, where dental hygiene is heavenly.”

  • Centaur Hips

    Ackley is meh and doesn’t help much but the offense is fine anyway. Get that SP to fill in the meantime for Pineda and that will be that.

    • n0exit

      You’re underestimating how screwed up he was in Seattle. He has a lot of upside and at worst, he’s drew. I think he could finish around 90 wRC+ hit a few dingers (without cheating for FBs every time) and possibly be a league average hitter next year.

      • Centaur Hips

        So…. meh. Unless he suddenly unlocks his upside (not likely in his late 20s) he’s probably somewhere from a 75 wRC+ to league average while playing around the diamond.

  • Preston

    I did not know that metrics considered Ackley a good defender at 2b, career UZR/150 of 7.2, DRS of +23, by insider edge fielding he doesn’t make very many of the remote plays, but he’s been pretty great at converting the routine ones, which is backed up by his .990 FP.

    • cxz

      The only problem is he’s only played 1 game at 2B since 2013, so we’d need to hope the transition is smooth

      • n0exit

        He’s played his whole career there except 2 seasons. He’ll be fine.

      • Centaur Hips

        Well at least he’s done it. Might need some time to shake off some rust but it’s not new to him and he was good before.

      • Preston

        Yeah, I get that. I’m just saying, my impression from afar was always that as a prospect with his hitting profile I had kind of always assumed that Ackley was a “2b”.

  • bernbabybern

    Alright! Let’s get Capuano back and win this thing!

  • blake

    @DanBarbarisi: Girardi says Severino is in the mix as a rotation possibility going forward. As is Adam Warren.

    • Pat M

      Warren could be in the return package to San Diego or Cincy

  • vwnut13

    Cool.

    Now get Kimbrel.

    (man, I feel like i already posted this. lol)

  • Bpdelia

    My ongoing Flores comp had always been Stan Javier. I still see it. A nice long career as a platoon guy with maybe two solid to above average starter seasons thrown in at some point.

    I just cannot see how Ackley improves the roster even at the margins.

    If there is any #2 pick top ten prospect shine left it’s buried under a mountain of failure. To be successful as a guy with no plate discipline you need one of three things.

    1) elite defense. Ackley is bad. Average at his best.

    2) absurd super elite bat to ball contact skill. If Ackley had that at UNC he doesn’t have it now.

    3) big power. He never had that which is why he was shoe horned in at second after playing the corners in college.

    Honestly i hate it. It’s possible he turns it on but u think it’s a reckless gamble for an infinitesimal upgrade at best. And the only position he can credibly play are ones the Yankees are already too deep at on the forty man.

    Seems like a move for the sake of doing something.

    • John

      I feel the same way. I think Cashman felt the pressure of all the teams in the division doing something that he felt he needed to do something

    • renzostew

      I agree.What is Cashman thinking Ackley is not a upgrade.

    • Pat M

      Stan Javier had big league staying talent, Flores is suspect

      • JGMAN1

        I liked Julian Javier better

  • blake

    I’d be really careful about just making Ackley the 2b….he hasn’t played there in awhile and isn’t as good as Drew defensively…..plus he can’t hit either

    • Rick

      I haven’t seen a single thing that says Ackley will be the full time second baseman. I’ve seen it said that he will play second base, but nothing more.

      • blake

        Interesting….I’m guessing they are gonna try him as a super utility type

        • BD11

          a poor man’s Prado

          • blake

            Hits lefty though

            • BD11

              yes, and like Drew I think they believe he will find his power stroke in YS. just hope he makes better contact.

        • Austinmac

          I think so, and i guess Jones goes, but it could be Ryan. We won’t know until Tomorrow.

      • dave_8

        Girardi said he’ll play all over. Then mentioned Drew playing 2b.

  • disqus_8E66WIUyso

    WTF

  • TripleShortOfACycle

    Even the Pirates are making moves

  • PriceyMustacheMasher

    MLB.com predict that we will end up with Kimbrel and Leake for what its worth..

    • n0exit

      Wje you speculate, anything is possible.

    • blake

      That would make the yanks a lot better….cost for Kimbrel though……

      • vwnut13

        They wanted to swap Kimbrel for Mateo.

        What was the price for Kimbrel before the season?

  • renzostew

    Ihave no idea why the Yankees want D.Ackley Drew is better defensively and Flore is a better hitter.

    • n0exit

      This drew is a good defender at 2B mythy is lol. He’s average.

    • Still Stucky

      Drew can’t play the outfield, Flores can’t play the infield.

      The term “super-utility” exists for a reason.

      Baseball fans should have to have the utility of a guy who can play 5-7 positions on a 13 man position player roster explained to them.

  • bernbabybern
    • HoopDreams

      Tf kinda shirt is that?

      • Veteran presents

        Fantastic 4?

      • bernbabybern

        Star Trek

    • blake

      Carolina blue shirt

    • n0exit

      He’s Cashman’s love child? That explains it.

    • YankeeFan™

      He looks happy to be a Yankee.

  • maybetoday777

    How is this improving the club? Cashman is still one of the worst GM’s in baseball.

    • Rick

      I didn’t realize redsox.com brought you here now.

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      Is he?

    • Pat M

      maybe you need to buy a clue or a bus ticket out of town…. Ignorance is tolerable however stupidity is not

    • MB923

      Bit of a stretch there. How many losing seasons do the Yankees have under him? Zero. Red Sox about to have their 2nd straight Last Place finish and 3rd in the last 4 years.

  • SteveNj

    The Trade heard around the world

  • Dick M

    Ackley’s an upgrade over Drew/Ryan. Would have rather traded Mason or Heathcott though. Flores is gonna be a productive major leaguer.

    • Veteran presents

      Flores may be a productive player but Slade and Mason still have higher upsides despite their health.

    • n0exit

      Yea starting guy on a team like Seattle but not really a star or anything. 4th OF for the Yanks at best.

      • Dick M

        Maybe so. I’d still rather trade one of the other 2.

    • Walter Sobchak – Vietnam Vet

      Ackley is most definitely not an upgrade.

      • Dick M

        Compared to Drew/Ryan he is.

      • Centaur Hips

        He might be… if he is it’s a pretty minor one.

    • John

      I guess you have not heard that he is hitting .215 this yr and .240 for hiz career. At least drew can run into 1 once ina while. Plus Ref will never get a chance.

  • RayVT

    There must be a reason Cash money has wanted Ackley for all these years. Perhaps we will find out.

    • John

      Really good bjs

  • vwnut13

    Padres and Yankees agree to let Kimbrel knock out the Mets before the trade is official.

    • Rob

      13 pitches. Miller woulda done in in 8.

  • blake

    @YankeesWFAN: Girardi indicated he sees Ackley more as OF, not 2B, but able to play 5 different positions. Ackley will join Yanks Friday in Chicago.

    • Bertin Lefkovic

      2B, LF, CF, RF, and ?

      • Preston

        1b

        • Wkamm

          He’s had a total of 18 games there.

          • Deep Thoughts

            That’s a function of the Mariners always keeping no fewer than 3 1B/DH types on the roster at any given time, with one usually forced to the outfield.

            • Deep Thoughts

              Kendrys Morales, Logan Morrison, Mike Morse, just to name the ones beginning with “Mor” over the past 2-3 seasons. Montero if you wanna just list the “Mo”s.

            • Wkamm

              Whatever the reason he’s still played a total of 18 games there during his entire career. It’s not a lot of games.

      • RayVT

        3B

      • Rick

        I’m assuming it’s 1B, 2B, 3B, RF, LF

        • Preston

          He’s never played 3b, he doesn’t even really have the arm for RF let alone the hot corner.

          • Rick

            I was thinking in an emergency situation.

        • Wkamm

          Lifetime 288 at 2b, 207 in LF, 71 in CF, 18 at 1st base,

      • Centaur Hips

        I see him as only LF, RF, 2B

        CF in a pinch.

        • Wkamm

          2 games in RF lifetime.

      • dave_8

        Girardi mentioned 1b during his 5pm spot on FAN.

        • Wkamm

          He’s only played a total of 18 games there. Maybe that’s why?

    • cxz

      This makes having Jones feel redundant

      • Bertin Lefkovic

        Jones has been redundant ever since A-Rod and Tex started hitting and stayed healthy.

        • cxz

          Nah, you need a bench option to use at 1B with Tex being the health risk that he is. Ackley literally is going to serve the role Jones is, but with more positions

    • n0exit

      Whatever I’m over girardi and his indications. Let’s just see what happens.

    • bernbabybern

      Girardi should just say “I have no idea, ask Cashman.”

  • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

    The Rando posts just keep coooooooomiiiiiiiing!!!!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t7Sptdhpa8A

  • PriceyMustacheMasher

    Seems like we needed an ace to make people happy, but we needed to get one without giving up Judge or Severino.. People know that other teams get to make offers too right? No way I would have topped the Blue Jays offer for Price.. So lets just hope that the professionals knows what they are doing in getting Ackley, I for some reason believe that they do. And if he turns out to be a bust, its lucky we didn’t give up too much

    • TripleShortOfACycle

      The guys to get were Kazmir or Hamels

      • PriceyMustacheMasher

        Hamels was super expensive too.. No way to have gotten him without having given up Severino, Sanchez and a couple of more mid range prospects.. Kazmir was not that cheap either. Remember that the Astros farm is super deep

        • TripleShortOfACycle

          Would have been worth it for Hamels imo

    • Since_77

      I want to agree but then I remember they gave us Brian Roberts last year and replaced him with Drew this year at 2B. Still waiting for Drew to break his 2 year slump.

      Vernon Wells & Soriono did not work out either.

      • PriceyMustacheMasher

        We are the Yankees, and we did catch lightning in a bottle for a few weeks or months with Soriano and Wells and then we cut them.. And Roberts was the best option at the time, unless you wanted to resign Cano at 240 millions.. So don’t know what your alternative would have been

        • Since_77

          No GM is perfect, no even Cashman but the Rays did very well picking up Forsythe for a lot less money than Drew or Roberts.

          • PriceyMustacheMasher

            They gave up Jesse Hahn… A pretty good starter, so I wouldn’t call that cheap

  • YankeeFan™

    The Padres better leave Kimbrel in NY tonight.

    • MB923

      Or have him fly to Chicago.

      • YankeeFan™

        gotta find his apartment tonight and then hell fly to chicago.

    • Austinmac

      Think of the travel cost savings.

    • http://jdbilingualsafety.blog.com/ ChristIsKing

      Shreve, Dellin and Miller not enough? Where would Kimbrel pitch?

      • YankeeFan™

        8th or 9th makes the game shorter.

        • http://jdbilingualsafety.blog.com/ ChristIsKing

          ? Betances Miller has been just fine. Shreve and Wilson have also been great. How do you get Kimbrel in past the 7th? Trade a lot for a 6th-7th inning guy?

  • Guesto

    Kimbrel – “like a condor,” throws heat. Strengthen a strength. Bullpen of the heavens.

  • Pkyankfan69

    Kimbrel looking pretty damn nasty… We’ll take him off your hands Pads

    • Pat M

      Shields might be a mandatory salary to go with Kimbrel… Again, will Hal take on the dough

      • Austinmac

        He would sure help the bullpen. They would have to send some money as his deal is backloaded. Even then, I don’t see a significant payroll addition, but who knows.

    • Austinmac

      Lots of 98s with control.

  • blake

    Was nice knowing you Jonesy 2.0….thanks for that homer you hit that time

    • MB923

      He’s gone? Or you guessing?

      • blake

        Just guessing but seems super redundant with Ackley

        • MB923

          Wouldn’t rule out Ryan or Drew

        • FriarFlyer

          Go with 11 pitchers…the 12th pitcher threw what 4 innings this month? The way arms move up and down they can get away with it..a.

        • Wkamm

          Ackley has played 18 games at 1B and 2 in RF during his career.

      • Still Stucky

        Not the everyday second baseman, don’t play SS.

        It’s Jones by process of elimination.

  • MB923

    Kimbrel gets the save in New York. Hopefully we get to say that again very soon.

    • blake

      Gets the hold …I think Miller is the closer now

      • Rob

        30th save.

      • MB923

        7th, 8th, 9th, IDGAF what inning it is in.

      • Rob

        Oh, i getcha. You don’t think he’ll close here?

        • blake

          I mean I have no idea….I just don’t see them taking Miller out of that role when he is perfect on the season

          • Rob

            I guess both could do it depending on who’s due up.

  • Centaur Hips

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/is-dustin-ackley-fixed/

    Found this on him. This was towards the end of last season. Sees him as an above average player… but his stock is surely down since then.

  • Veteran presents

    So when is Toronto trading for Kimbrel?

    • KimbrelSlice

      Chapman

    • cxz

      With what farm system?

  • grandedan

    Well Girardi’s comments coincide with my earlier posts. Ackley plays OF because Drew is your 2b. Jones is gone. I still don’t know why Ackley is better than Flores as a 4th OF but this is how the Yanks do things. Vets first.

    Axisa’s comment above about adjusting your bench and adding a Zobrist type player as part of a six man rotation is interesting. About a week ago, I said I think the Yanks next year will come out of the gate with a six man rotation. I think all signs point that way. Perhaps this is how they see the future for Ackley.

    Be nice if he could hit though.

  • Centaur Hips
  • blake

    As an aside I’m glad I don’t have to read more pining for Ramon Flores ever again

    • raymagnetic

      Said the guy who was begging for all star Drew for two years straight everyday all day. :roll:

      Personally I’d rather see a rookie get a chance over a scrub like Drew being traded for and letting him suck every day. That’s just me however :)

      • Pat M

        Raymagnetic, how goes it ?????

        • raymagnetic

          Pat M, I’m good. I’m in Vegas. Just did a five team parlay tonight. Hoping I hit!

          • Pat M

            good luck man…

      • blake

        Hyperbole is fun right

        • raymagnetic

          Are you saying you did not pine for Drew for two years????

          • Rob

            I remember it being more like 9 months,(end of 2013- when they got him mid 2014) but 20 times a day. Ya

            • raymagnetic

              I don’t think you were on lohud when the pining began.

              • Rob

                Maybe my memory is foggy. I remember after Bo Sox won in 2013. But what he said about wanting him for a year. Seriously? Drew and Boras turned down the QO at 14.1. Blake was at 3/36. I was there. I just don’t say much about it.

                • blake

                  I said I’d consider a 2 or 3 year deal…..basically I wanted him cheap to avoid Brian Roberts who was of course a disaster……a whole other group was pining for Infante. I just wanted Drew because I felt like he was the best option in a bad situation…..still feel that way….and so did the Yankees after awhile.

                  Hasn’t worked out like either of us planned….still doesn’t mean it was a bad idea

                  • Rob

                    I will admit you had me convinced but I didn’t express it . Ever since, anytime you fall head over heels I take a step back and think to myself, it’s Blake being Blake. I wish it had been your Hamels crush not your drew crush that was fulfilled.

          • blake

            Not like you’re suggesting….I wanted him on a 1 year deal because there were no better options….

    • Pete22

      Wait till he starts in the All Star game next year

    • Wkamm

      I know how you feel. I was getting sick of the obsessive pining over Hamels. ;)

      • blake

        Yea cause Hamels and Flores are totally the same

        • Wkamm

          No. Not all all. Flores served his purpose and with the current OF I think most people knew he should get sent down. I don’t recall much whining over Flores.
          But Hamels? There was this one whiny beach that wouldn’t shut up.
          Anyway, hope you’re off the rag and the PMS isn’t too severe.

    • Dick M

      i guess you were in favor of Jones and that 260 OBA?

      • blake

        He never plays …it’s ok

        • Dick M

          Let’s go with a 20 man roster.

      • vwnut13

        Well, Brandon Moss and his .217/.288/.407 netted a top prospect, so…

        • chris hines

          You mean Moss and his 3 consecutive 160, 137, 121 wRC+’s got a top prospect.

  • Steak Sandwich

    Sweeny Murti ?@YankeesWFAN 10m10 minutes ago
    Girardi indicated he sees Ackley more as OF, not 2B, but able to play 5 different positions. Ackley will join Yanks Friday in Chicago.

    • Austinmac

      I wonder how Jones is feeling about now.

      • MB923

        Probably like how he felt last night looking at strike 3 down the middle to end the game.

        • Austinmac

          Then, it’s a pretty familiar feeling, I would think.

    • Hank

      5 positions? So I guess he sees him as legit option at 1st base too? (Doesn’t have much time there)

      That would seemingly spell DOOOOM for Garret Jones.

  • Steak Sandwich

    Expand

    8m
    Bryan Hoch ? @BryanHoch
    Girardi said the Yankees like Ackley’s versatility. Sounds like you could see him at all three OF spots. Needs work at 2B.

    • cxz

      Ackley in CF? Eh

      • Preston

        He’s not good there, I think Ellsbury, Gardner and Young would all be considered above him on the CF depth chart. But he can play there in a pinch without embarrassing himself the way current Beltran or Jones would.

    • John

      What is he suppose to say?? I have not been informed that we traded for anyone

  • Steak Sandwich

    Teflon Drew

    Daniel Barbarisi @DanBarbarisi
    Girardi said that if they were to use Ackley at 2nd, they’d have to work him out there first. Seems more ominous for Jones than Drew, then.

    • John

      So the Yanks are going to have no power on the bench. They pretty much traded for the same player but with less power and less defense

      • Ewing33

        Girardi didn’t seem to like Jones from the get go kinda like with Carpenter. And maybe for good reason with both of them.

        • John

          That’s not the point. You need power off the bench

          • Ewing33

            Chris Young or Beltran depending on who is starting gives you one power bat off the bench. And ARod in the WS with no DH.

            • John

              Need to ge there first

              • MB923

                Well as he said, Young/Beltran is still power off the bench. Technically so is Drew.

  • Steak Sandwich

    OT:

    Daniel Barbarisi @DanBarbarisi

    Girardi says Severino is in the mix as a rotation possibility going forward. As is Adam Warren.

    • grandedan

      Obviously this is contingent on what happens over the next 24 hours. There should be another starter coming.

    • Pete22

      Thats your depth, but between CC (dead knee), Nova (dead arm) and Tanaka (dead elbow) you have to wonder if they have enough depth now with Pineda out. Maybe Cash is working on something.

      • Deep Thoughts

        ..

  • MB923

    This was probably brought up earlier since it’s a few hours old so forgive me if I’m reposting this, but I just read Andrew Bailey promoted to AAA. Maybe he’s with the team in the pen soon. His numbers in the minors this year look pretty good. K/9 over 10.

    • http://jdbilingualsafety.blog.com/ ChristIsKing

      Which is why I don’t get the Kimbrel obsession

      • MB923

        Well, nobody is better than him (maybe Chapman but that’s about it)

    • Preston

      He’s no Diego Moreno.

      • Tom

        He’s a killer B.

    • Pete22

      Just a question if he can stay healthy, and based on the track record, that is doubtful. Don’t hold your breath

  • Steak Sandwich

    Joel Sherman ? @Joelsherman1
    #Pirates making strength (pen) stronger if finalize deal for Soria. Giving up minor lgr. Melancon/Soria/Watson/Hughes top unit #Tigers

    Yanks need to go for a jugular relief pitcher move

    • Some Asshole

      The Yankees need to do whatever another team does.

      • Steak Sandwich

        b/c it helps a weaker rotation – Sherman is making the point the Yanks have a suspect rotation – lock it down in the pen it is a 1:1

    • Centaur Hips

      Improving the pen is literally the lowest priority right now by far.

      • vwnut13

        Improving the pen improves the starting pitching.

        • Centaur Hips

          I don’t see how it does. It might allow a few less inherited runners to score and will make Joe feel more comfortable going to the pen earlier, but other than that the SPs won’t really be affected.

  • Steak Sandwich

    Did Moreno pitch long enough on Tuesday to rule him out for Saturday?

    • Austinmac

      Probably, but good question.

      • Steak Sandwich

        Then I wonder if you Warren?? Would Moreno have enough to piggy back for an inning or two on Warren’s outing (say 4 IP)

        • Austinmac

          That he could probably do. Maybe 2-3.

          • Steak Sandwich

            Now we just need for Moreno not to turn into a pumpkin here in August.

  • Deep Thoughts

    Tom Wilhelmsen is “The Bartender.”
    Ackley is “The Non-Tender.”

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      *crowd reaction gif*

    • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam

      Wilhelmsen’s bar must be a dive, because that’s he does to Mariners games regularly.

  • InvalidUserID

    Is this the Jose Ramirez we got in the Pineda trade?

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      Oof…

      It’s the Jose Ramirez we picked up off streets of San Cristobal

    • Big Tasty

      thats jose (now Vicente) Campos

    • Preston

      That was Jose Campos, who has since adopted his middle name Vincente.

    • InvalidUserID

      Ahhh, thanks. Got the first name, partial credit?

  • grandedan

    Some writer on Twitter offered Severino for Chapman. I’d do that in a NY minute. That would be one way to deal with the starting rotation problem this year and next. Fit into a six man rotation too.

    • blake

      I would not

    • vwnut13

      No way, would rather get Kimbrel for Mateo.

      I think the Yankees can get Kimbrel without Severino/Judge/Mateo.

    • raymagnetic

      No!

  • Still Stucky

    Has anyone checked Fangraph’s postseason odd?. If you could let me know how much the Yanks chances plummeted following the Hamels/Price non-trades and then the Ackley transaction, I’d consider it a solid.

    • grandedan

      My running theory is deadline deals rarely impact post season fortunes. But they are fun to obsess about!

    • Big Tasty

      The BJs up to 40 or 45% with 4% chance of winning WS.. that was just on twitter.. not sure about Yanks

      • Big Tasty

        but i know you’re being sarcastic, ha

    • Big Tasty

      ..

  • Veteran presents

    So looks like a lot of people have a boner for Kimbrel. Are you guys willing to give up Mateo and others?

    • http://jdbilingualsafety.blog.com/ ChristIsKing

      I don’t know for what. Our pen is fine.

    • Pat M

      No, you’re picking up a huge salary

      • Big Tasty

        i dont think salary should be a fan’s concern… just my 2¢

    • Preston

      Here’s how that conversation goes:
      Cash: So you really thought you guys were going to compete this year?
      Preller: Yeah, Rookie mistake.
      Cash: I’ll bet you feel real dumb paying elite closer money to a guy when you have so many other holes on your ball club.
      Preller: Yeah, I probably should have gotten at least one infielder that didn’t suck.
      Cash: Well if you need to unload that money I’ll take it.
      Preller: But I need to try to save face and act like I’m getting something in return, can I please have Mateo?
      Cash: No.
      Preller: Can I have a top 10 prospect?
      Cash: No.
      Preller: Can I have something of value, anything?
      Cash: I’ll give you Mason Williams, at least somebody on your team should be able to play CF, and I guess you can take a reliever that’s not on the 40 man.
      Cash: Your welcome.
      Preller: Thank you.

      • Veteran presents

        That would be cool.

  • Since_77

    Since Jayson Stark is reporting that the Cubs want to move Castro. Why not pick him up and try to move him to 2B?

    • blake

      I’m all for in this winter….I don’t know about it mid season

    • cxz

      Have you saw his contract, and what he’s done this year, and 2 years ago? Big, big gamble.

      • Dan A.

        Bad this year. 115 wRC last year

        • Centaur Hips

          2 of the last 3 years he’s been at or below a 72 wRC+ and this year he’s all the way down to 53. Apparently he’s not hitting the ball as hard or hitting line drives this year either.

  • blake

    Ackley was really bad at 2B when he came up but he made himself into a decent fielder there…..the deal always was that he should be ok there for his bat…..well he never hit so then they ended up moving to the outfield where the bat played even worse.

    I’m telling you in college Ackley raked….he was Nomar like in how often he found the barrel …..Safeco has killed many a young hitter…..maybe he can figure something out with a fresh start.

    Who knows…..I do know that the Yankees pro scouting department is pretty awesome and usually when they “see something” in players….there is something there to be tapped

    • MTU

      For whatever reason they have wanted him for a while.

    • grandedan

      Some similarities to a certain current 2b of Korean descent.

      • Dick M

        Except the Korean shows plate discipline.

    • chris hines

      Are we using aluminum bats now? Because if not what he did in college is pretty irrelevant.

      • blake

        It’s not totally ….I’m not saying he’s gonna be prime Chase Utley or anything …..and chances are he will continue to be not that good

        • chris hines

          How is what he did 6 or 7 years ago, against non pro ball players, with metal bats, relevant to what he could do at the major league level now?

          • blake

            Because there is ability in there somewhere….it may never come out….the ship may have sailed…but apparently the Yankees are willing to find out

            • chris hines

              There are plenty of kids who hit really well in college and couldn’t hack it with real bats against real pros, it doesn’t mean the ability was there and they never tapped it. They just overwhelmed inferior competition, almost a different a game, and then got exposed with real bats and real competition.

  • Steak Sandwich

    The Yankees were faced with the question of how much to strip of that for 12 starts of Price, plus the postseason. Steinbrenner has quarantined Aaron Judge, Greg Bird and Luis Severino at Triple-A and A-ball shortstop Jorge Mateo — who just might be the Yankees’ best prospects. And executives from other teams say Cashman is being protective of even more than that. The idea is not to be so gung-ho for a title now that you damage your near future.

    And even more than that? Interesting

    • Big Tasty

      Cito Culver… obviously

    • John

      Everyone here wants Cash to turn the Yankees into what yhe Phillies are today.

      • TripleShortOfACycle

        Or the Dodgers

        • Steak Sandwich

          ouch good comeback

        • PriceyMustacheMasher

          Guessing you are one of the people that thinks the Dodgers just raped the Braves in that deal? Dodgers can just do all this with their money now, because they still had a bunch of new money. The Yankees have been doing it for years before the Dodgers

          • TripleShortOfACycle

            When have the Yankees done anything like what the Dodgers did last night?

            • PriceyMustacheMasher

              They got 1 good player.. Lets not act like the Dodgers completely won that trade.. And no the Yankees haven’t made a trade exactly like that, but they have been using their financial advantage for years (just try to look more than 2 weeks back)

              • TripleShortOfACycle

                You are in the vast minority with those opinions on here

                • PriceyMustacheMasher

                  Yeah, there is always more trolls here than everyone else, nothing new there

          • John

            The dodgers are paying like 80 million on players that are not even on their roster.

    • Austinmac

      It is the hope of a less expensive team that drives this in my opinion. It is a Hal directive. That’s why we can’t and won’t see an expensive deal. We’ll see, but that is what the signs say to me.

      • Dick M

        you and everyone else

      • Basil

        There’s a lot more Steins now who need to live well and who may be resentful of big bucks to ballplayers.

        There should be a happy medium between George’s scorched earth policy with respect to the farm system and the kind of hyper-frugality that is more associated with little folks.

    • Steak Sandwich

      Wade, Barbato, and Sanchez are also in the off-limits it appears:

      “I’m pleased that so many of these guys, like Sanchez, Barbato, Wade, have started to hit their projections, or that the light’s suddenly gone on,” Cashman said.

    • TripleShortOfACycle

      So if they are all off limits and the team refuses to add any big money contracts how does the team improve?

      • Steak Sandwich

        I guess they rely on the off limit items – if Joe ever plays them and gives them a chance

  • Diego Moreddardno

    Cashman’s first response when hearing of David Price to the Jays – Get me Dustin Ackley. This trade just makes no sense and does nothing to help a contending ballclub. A Zobrist would have been an upgrade. And nothing has been done to improve the pitching staff.

    • Steak Sandwich

      they might see Ackley as a future Zobrist type. Zobrist was a late bloomer at age 27

      • chris hines

        4 straight years of being below average to extremely below average, I think the book is written.

  • grandedan

    My God, Sheldon Richardson. You gotta cut him right now.

    • Yanks48

      Crazy. Don’t even know what it’s like going 100 mph

      • Steak Sandwich

        Well, inside a plane, it is cozy depending on where you are sitting and have some good music to listen to

        • Yanks48

          I knew someone was gonna say this -.-

      • grandedan

        With a kid in the car! And High.

    • PriceyMustacheMasher

      Maybe the kid just wanted to try real life Gran Turismo/GTA

  • Ewing33

    So the team sees Ackley more as an outfielder? Kinda blows up the trading from a surplus area to address middle infield depth weakness. Unless Cashman sees it differently.

    • Steak Sandwich

      In the future they also see as a 1b, 2b and maybe 3b option as well

      • Ewing33

        True. It has to be that or else we just added more outfield to the glut.

    • MTU

      An average OF’er who can’t hit ?
      Wow. I’m impressed.

  • https://twitter.com/missvykki vicki

    look out, garrett jones. you may not be the handsomest yankee now.

    https://twitter.com/TheDaveSimsShow/status/626872694420701185

    • vwnut13
      • Big Tasty

        i didnt know Jim Gaffigan played baseball

      • dayanks

        wHAT IS THAT

        • vwnut13

          Brian McCann’s face.

    • dkidd

      look out, garrett jones. you may not be a yankee now

    • dave_8

      you’ve been beaten to the punch on this pic a few times

      • Veteran presents

        Mike should just put this picture at the top.

      • https://twitter.com/missvykki vicki

        deduct points as you see fit, but no way i’m scrolling down to read thousands of rab hottakes on a minor trade.

    • dkidd

      looks like he took a celebratory bong hit

    • Austinmac

      He may not be a Yankee tomorrow.

  • DeutschlandNY

    I’m calling it, Ackley becomes World Series mvp this year!

    • MB923

      Only if Drew is still on the roster, because he was supposed to hit the walk off grand slam.

    • vwnut13

      Who are the Yankees going to trade Ackley for on the Blue Jays?

  • chris hines

    What do they see in Ackely? He has a long track record of being awful.

    • MTU

      Excellent question.

    • Yanks48

      That’s exactly what they see in him

    • Big Tasty

      low risk w upside… only way to look at it

      • chris hines

        It’s not much upside based on his entire career.

    • NYCORNERSTONE

      Hes a clone of Drew without Drews glove i will never understand this one

  • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread
    • Steak Sandwich

      yeah too bad that has been all down in the minors #wastingbullets

      • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

        He’s being #Lindgren’d

        2016- Judge is wasting at bats in the minors.

  • Asher Dratel

    Latos to LA. Everybody comin’ off the board now. Fuckin’ A.

    • Veteran presents

      You only found out now?

      • Big Tasty

        Capuano DFA’d

        • Asher Dratel

          I hear they sent Esmil down!

        • OscarGamblesAfro

          Dont tell him they cut Alfonso Soriano, it will only upset him

      • Asher Dratel

        Yeah it just came up on my FB feed, I was out all day and going through the backlog of posts where I follow trades would be a complete nightmare.

  • https://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek/ Roadgeek Adam
    • blake

      Lol

  • chris hines

    The only good part of this move is Ramirez is likely a nothing and Flores’ upside is probably as a 4th outfielder anyway, still a very underwhelming move.

  • Centaur Hips

    I keep thinking the game is at 7… 8 p.m start times suck.

    • Mike Myers

      5pm west coast time…..life is easier out here

      • Austinmac

        My daughter is moving to LA tomorrow. Yikes.

        • LazerTown

          LA is amazing. I miss the west.

          • MTU

            For what ? Traffic jams.

            • LazerTown

              It has everything. And amazing weather, sure beats NYC (I’m sure I’ll get some flak there) And the sunshine feels so much better out west without all the fuckin trees.

        • dkidd

          next two months are going to be scorching out here. let her know it gets better after september

          • Austinmac

            Thanks, but where she’s from was100 today.

      • Y’s Guy

        NY Giants games are over before you finish Sunday Brunch..

        • LazerTown

          Then you actually got time to do stuff.

          • Y’s Guy

            as long as you dont mind waking up at 9 to watch the game.

      • John

        On sat and sun waking up to the games are awesome. I use to live in SD for 4 yrs

  • calripyankee

    The last thing the Yankees needed was another OF.. And to think, they coveted one this bad..

  • RayVT

    I see the Red Sox have heard that the Yanks got Ackley!
    Red Sox fan pukes onto crowd at Fenway Park

  • MattPat11

    Bringing in a guy who doesn’t it because he can not hit in a different position every day. That’s fun. Its like bringing the shitty rotating DH back.

    • Austinmac

      Good times ahead. You did make me laugh.

  • cxz

    So, who’s really left on the board as far as SP goes? Gallardo, Haren, Leake, Padres entire rotation, and that’s about it that are readily available/worth mentioning, right?

    • calripyankee

      Iwakuma?? With this rip off of a trade, SEA owes the Yanks one..

      • dayanks

        SEA said they won’t trade him.

        • John

          But he is a FA at end of yr. Better getting something for him.

      • cxz

        Apparently they plan to hold onto him, which bums me out because I’ve been calling for him all along

  • James

    Former #2 overall pick infielder who struggled when first called up, and moved to LF in his late 20’s – became a star.

    Hopefully Ackley follows the Alex Gordon precedent.

  • YankeeFan™

    i love severino so call him up, hes good for around 50 innings so start him for Pineda until he comes back and then send him to the pen.

  • NH Yankee fan

    I really wonder if they are going to package Refsnyder now with this Ackley trade?

    • John

      I hope not. Plus Ackley is just another drew but with less defense and less power. So not an upgrade

  • Mike Myers

    Positives:
    1) we get to yell “you suck” at someone new
    2) upside!
    3) my stock in #cashfailed the tag has risen
    4) Arod will have a new friend
    5) We can compare Ackleys contract and WRC to Cano and feel ok
    6) what else?????

    • Centaur Hips

      We can win another trade over the Ms.

  • Pat M

    So many RAB’ers want the NY Yankees to be a carbon copy of the St. Louis Cardinals and that’s just not going to happen. Two years I plead my case for The Yanks to trade Cano, Granderson and Hughes because they were never going to resign them. The haul would have been a franchise shift to the future. Instead they spend crazy money on Tanaka, Beltran and even McCann and still chasing the future. Ellsbury was a solid signing I believe

    • RayVT

      Very true Pat! How are you doing?

      • Pat M

        I’m recovering from 3 elbow reconstructive surgeries after shattering it during the Pal stickball tourney in May in NYC. I’ve survived double digits operations over the past 20 years but at 63 this ends any future ball playing .

        • RayVT

          Ouch! I’m sorry to hear that you have been going thru so much! Glad to see your thoughts here!

          • Pat M

            Thing is I felt great that day even hit 2 onto the Metro North tracks during BP. Went 1 for 1 and bamm crashed and burned. Long flight back to the coast, however the flight attendants on United were great, even cut up my food for me….

            • RayVT

              LOL! I like the positive spin on it! Hopefully the Yanks get some pitching. Kimbrel, Ross, Gray, or Chapman.

        • NYCORNERSTONE

          Thats got to be painful i dislocated my elbow and laid there screaming it not like Mel Gibson in the movies

        • MTU

          Keepin’ those surgeons in Audi’s.
          Heal quickly and well.

    • Austinmac

      Yes, I agreed with you. Good to see you around.

      • RayVT

        Yes I remember. I on the other hand wanted to re-sign Cano!

        • Pat M

          I wanted him back but not at 275 for 10. He’s declining

          • RayVT

            True! But I wish they had signed a SP

    • YankeeFan™

      i also wanted this i knew deep in my mind we wasn’t resigning any of em.

    • blake

      What’s up Pat

    • MattPat11

      Why couldn’t the Yankees be a Cardinals style team that wins now and develops quality major league players?

      • Pat M

        Because a philosophy like that takes about 4-5 years and that will not fly in Yankee land. Shit just read todays posts about the trade deadline

        • John

          I thnk there are alot of fans excited for players like Severino, judge, Bird and Refs. I dont min waiting until 2017 to see the fruits

        • TripleShortOfACycle

          Part of the reactions today is do to the Yankees dismal record of drafting over the years

  • HoopDreams

    Perhaps get Kimbrel and Cashner? or Leake. Move CC to the pen for LOOGY duty. And Warren could spot start.

    • calripyankee

      Cashner’s awful.. Yanks already have a hard thrower who needs work.. His name is Bryan Mitchell..

      • IVoted4Kodos

        3.93/3.78/3.67 ERA/FIP/xFIP is far from awful.

        • calripyankee

          After his 5.1 inns of work today, giving up 7 runs (5 earned) his ERA is now 4.13.. In an extreme pitcher’s park?? I’m not that impressed..

    • blake

      It’s a plan….just worry about Kimmys price

      • HoopDreams

        We will find out soon.

    • LazerTown

      I’m so sick of hearing about Kimbrel.

      He is a reliever. Sure he is good, but is it in this team’s best interest to lock up big money in yet another expensive reliever, when they really don’t need one?

      • HoopDreams

        Well if they aren’t gonna pickup a starter, it’s an interesting thought to just build an even more shutdown pen. Money shouldn’t be much of an issue with the 2nd highest payroll.

        • LazerTown

          Money is always an issue. It comes out of the budget some how.

      • vwnut13

        Relievers are the future.

  • josh0909

    AWFUL trade from the Yankees. Getting a good starting second baseman should be priority number 1 and a pitcher 2. I mean how much would it bloody take to get an ian kennedy or mike leake? I mean Gordon can’t cost that much.

    • PriceyMustacheMasher

      Dee Gordon?? He will cost ALOT… Plus the deadline is still not over, so calm down

    • cxz

      Gordon would cost an arm and a leg, you crazy?

      • MTU

        He’d still steal 30.

    • vwnut13

      AWFUL?

      Rob Kaminsky for Brandon Moss was an AWFUL trade.

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      This guy just wrote Dee Gordon wouldn’t cost much!

    • IVoted4Kodos

      Yeah, what an awful move, taking a flier on a guy who has show real ability in the past while giving up next to nothing.

      And seriously? Gordon wouldn’t cost much? Are you familiar with the real world at all?

    • LazerTown

      Awful because it’s not what you think their biggest need is?

    • blake

      Yes he can

  • blake

    @BryanHoch: Dustin Ackley’s comments on being traded to the Yankees: http://t.co/9cZrx5DlkT

    • NH Yankee fan

      Most of the talk on there is about Flores..

      • blake

        The RAB loves Ramon

  • just_add_bacon7

    I’m just going to pretend this didn’t happen.

  • Preston

    The outrage by some surrounding this pick up reminds me of the reaction to getting Chris Young last season.

    • LazerTown

      Seems the outrage is because Cash is not allowed to do any other moves unless he gets an ace first.

      • dickylarue

        He doesn’t have to worry about that anymore. They’re all sold out in the ace store.

    • HoopDreams

      Young is a dead pull power hitter that has always hit well against LHP though, Ackley, doesn’t hit anything.

      • calripyankee

        There are some on here who think CASHman walks on water, and any criticism of him is blaspheme.. The guy shits perfection..

        • IVoted4Kodos

          No, but there are some who think that panicking over a minor trade that cost nothing af real value is fucking ridiculous.

          • calripyankee

            I’m not feeling the panic on here.. Just think there’s a lot of thin skinned CASHman supporters..

            • BillyBall

              Im seeing the opposite, Im seeing allot of pessimistic cry babies who want to make trades just to pass the time. Our best trade maybe sitting in AAA named Luis Sverino. So chill out and bash Cash all you want but I’m for not giving up the farm for a rental and I have no worries about trading Flores for Ackerly who may wind up being a decent bat down stretch. Only time will tell, not crying.

        • dickylarue

          I heard he shits poblano chiles, but that was from a hooker so take it with a grain of salt.

    • Mustang

      Can you please sum up the general bitchness about it.

      • dickylarue

        I think mostly everyone is having fun with this trade in here.

      • Deep Thoughts

        here you go.

      • dalelama

        Ackley blows…

    • Pete22

      Seems more like the reaction to getting Stephen Drew

      • Preston

        I think the negative reaction here is that they realize Ackley is not replacing Stephen Drew.

        • JGMAN1

          Drew is a better 2nd baseman and they are similar hitters this yr. Ackley more of a LF… not really a 2nd baseman.

  • josh0909

    Mateo, Refsnyder, Sanchez for Dee Gordon. That’s enough right there for the Marlins to bite!!!

    • blake

      You just said Dee Gordon can’t cost that much can he? That’s a lot ….and might not be enough

      • josh0909

        Sanchez is blocked, Refsnyder sucks but has prospect value and Mateo is a no power speed guy. I’d do that trade all day for a gold glove guy that can hit for average and steal bases and is 27

        • PriceyMustacheMasher

          But if you see the prospects like that, why would the Marlins do it then?

          • josh0909

            Because Sanchez is still a good hitter and plays a premium position, Refsnyder still has decent upside and is cost controlled, and Mateo if pans out is pretty much Gordon at shortstop.

            • PriceyMustacheMasher

              But Ref sucks and Mateo is just a no power speed guy.. (but you are wrong about Mateo and his “no power” but whatever..)

            • Still Stucky

              Priceless.

          • Big Tasty

            bc we’re the Yankees and every team should make deals to appease us

            • PriceyMustacheMasher

              Man no wonder people are mad at Cashman for not doing it then..

            • PriceyMustacheMasher

              Man no wonder people are mad at Cashman for not doing it then..

        • Still Stucky

          My favorite post meme is ones where a person explains why the players they want to trade suck but still think the other team will want them.

          • josh0909

            Those guys suck for what we need now.

            • PriceyMustacheMasher

              Trying to save it now?

        • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread
        • blake

          Even if you would….why would the Marlins?

        • blake

          Classic these guys sucks lets trade them….then trying to defend why the Marlins should love them

        • BillyBall

          Your way off base on Refsnyder potential, way off base on Mateo bat, and your idea of trading away the farm just to make a trade is nauseating.

        • Big Tasty

          we have no idea what ref is.. just curious, why do you say he sucks?.. and mateo is a super elite speed guy

    • Still Stucky

      If not, we Jack Woltz ’em.

    • PriceyMustacheMasher

      So in your mind that is cheap?? Are you fucking high? Plus you probably need to give up even more than that

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      Did the game reject this trade?

      • josh0909

        If the Marlins were to reject that trade they’d be high.

    • BillyBall

      No Bueno, Im not giving up Mateo and Sanchez for him alone. I would do no more than Sanchez and Refsnyder without Mateo.

      Lets stop playing the trade the farm and blame the GM in few years for having no farm because people won’t remember my post anyway game!

  • Mustang

    Wow! over 1000 comments on this???!!!!

    I’m not going to even bother going over them.

    • dickylarue

      But there’s a test later.

    • LazerTown

      I’ll give you a hint. Many were off-topic.

      • IVoted4Kodos

        And irrational.

      • Mustang

        Can you please sum up the general bitchness

        • LazerTown

          Cashman Sucks
          Hal is cheap
          Now let’s go get Kimbrel
          Let’s call Severino up

          The usual.

          • Mustang

            Wow! Nothing on him blocking Ref?

            The others I figure they are after all standard protocol

        • Austinmac

          Trout would have been a much better pick up.

    • Pat M

      By the way it was reported that the Yanks did indeed offer up Nova and Sanchez to the Tigers for Price. apparently Detroit wanted Serivino and that was that

      • Mustang

        Like I told you it wouldn’t be enough.

      • Pat M

        You still miss the point however it’s fruitless because Toronto overpaid for a 3 month rental. My point was if they could get a small window to extend Price then throw in Serivino and Moreno

  • Alkaline

    Hell with it. Welcome aboard Ackley. Get a shave and kick some ass out there.

  • Mason Williams Jar

    Good looking starting first 5 for the Rail Riders tonight

  • YankeeFan™
    • calripyankee

      He needs a stache.. Worked for Ryan..

    • MTU

      Now if can just look like a whole new ballplayer we’re set.

    • dickylarue

      Gardner and McCann are gonna see all that stubble and get very jealous.

      • MTU

        Rogaine works.

    • vwnut13

      Same funky left eyebrow doe.

  • NYCORNERSTONE

    So who thinks Moreno should take Big Mike’s spot in the rotation besides me or does Warren get it back

    • MTU

      Neither. It goes to Severino.

    • dickylarue

      Diego es muy fuego!

  • Mike Myers

    Good news – Justin Ackley (wife) is super hot.

    • Mike Myers

      *Justine

    • Joeman

      Can she play 2nd and bat .270

    • Pat M

      Immediate upside, then again baseball players are assured hot mates once the sign

  • mrmoss

    Cashman on dem sleeping pills…Ackley is terrible. get pitching ,pitching and more pitching

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      I heard Cashman prefers to sip that
      Lean with jolly ranchers , like a codeine cowboy

  • Austinmac

    Sale is scheduled to pitch tonight in Boston, but it is raining. He needs to pitch that game. I don’t want to see him.

    • Joeman

      They will get that game in

    • Pete22

      Its actually going to work out for the Yankees. It will be a late start (9 pm or later) and the White Sox won’t get home till 6 AM. Wont be much of a HFA

  • Tyler

    2-0 Royals over the Jays Top 1. Ball was going to drop for a hit anyway but Bautista probably allowed the second run to score with an awful route to the ball.

    • PriceyMustacheMasher

      Even if the Jays were down 10-0 now, they would still be right in it, with that offense.. The other team would however also be in it if the Jays were up 10-0 with the pitching they have

    • Mike Myers

      good thing its not over the yanks or everyone here would think the world was ending.

    • Pete22

      Zobrist killed the rally, could have been more. Blue Jays have yet to bat

  • josh0909

    This trade is pathetic. After that terrible draft from Cashman and now this i hope he loses his job.

    • PriceyMustacheMasher

      Yeah, rumors are Hal just called him into his office to dismiss him…

      • IVoted4Kodos

        “You made a minor move, costing us nothing. Some fans are impatient and stupid and they hate you. You’re fired.”

        • PriceyMustacheMasher

          “Oh, and fuck you Cashman! You failed”

  • ohioyankee

    Man if the Yankees didn’t whiff on some many number one picks they wouls have some solid trade prospects without the main 4, I know some of these are injuries but still. Bichette Jr, Culver, Clarkin

    • NH Yankee fan

      I’m still reeling over the Gerrit Cole loss..

      • dickylarue

        That one will always sting.

      • NH Yankee fan

        That was a bona fide #1 right there..

    • TripleShortOfACycle

      Bingo

    • PriceyMustacheMasher

      This isn’t the NFL draft.. Teams miss on their first round picks a lot here

      • Tom

        It doesn’t help when you’re picking near the bottom almost every year.

        • ohioyankee

          True but still if only half those guys were legit you could have based a package around them, just second guessing

      • Austinmac

        True, but both of those were highly questioned at the time. Girardi’s god son and a guy in the Yankees amateur team who signed cheaply didn’t have a good feel about them.

    • Steak Sandwich

      Clarkin and Hensley ’13 and ’12 have just been injured – it happens

      But very true – indictment Bichette jr. and Culver, though Yanks got Greg Bird in 2011 Bichette Jr. draft – still they could have had Bird + plus a better pick

      • dickylarue

        To be fair, Bichette wasn’t a 1st round pick. He was our first pick in that draft, but he wasn’t in the first round.

        • Steak Sandwich

          supplemental pick in the 50s – he had no business being taken that high – nor did Culver in 2010

  • Austinmac

    Sanchez with a long homer. Judge with a walk and stolen base. He is playing CF with Heathcott in left.

    • Still Stucky

      Shall we just start calling him Franchez now please?

      • Sccrkeepr34

        Why, the Sanchize has moved on?

        • Still Stucky

          Did I mix up my portmanteaus? (that was for you Tasty!)

          • Sccrkeepr34

            No, just starting hot dog boy has given up the Sanchize trade mark…it’s intellectual property is free

  • Mason Williams Jar

    Sanchez with another homer

    • Preston

      I’m glad he’s still here.

      • Austinmac

        Ten pitch at bat.

  • vwnut13

    Sanchez+ for Kimbrel…

  • Sccrkeepr34
    • Steak Sandwich

      hopefully not another chad curtis

    • Pete22

      Yeah, some of those player tweets are a bit much. This is the Sin City boys.

    • YankeeFan™

      i like him even more.

    • Alkaline

      Who cares? Seems liked it help him and some teamates connect. As long as it doesn’t negatively impact his performance or ccause cubhouse drama what does it matter?

      • Sccrkeepr34

        It doesn’t…just thought we’d get to know the guy….

        • Alkaline

          The seemingly sarcastic text and sideways face seem to indicate otherwise for you.

          • Sccrkeepr34

            Because you can tell sarcasm on the internet.

            • Alkaline

              Hence why I said seemingly. And the face? And the point of bringing up his faith at all?

    • Too Many Idiots

      Didn’t seem to be an issue for Mo and Pettitte.

      • Alkaline

        Ty

  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

    This has to mean Jones is gone.
    Throw-in in a trade or dfa.

    • Adam

      I’d like to think trade.
      He’s got some value, would hate to see him go for nothing.

    • Sccrkeepr34

      Who backs up first if Jones is gone?

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        ackley

        • Sccrkeepr34

          I hope that’s sarcasm.

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            he has backed up before.

      • jonathon

        mccann

        • Austinmac

          No, Ackley.

    • Preston

      I’d bet they can find a landing spot. He’s been a solid regular for his career, he hasn’t played well in a very limited bench role. But somebody will bet on him bouncing back.

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        Hope for a deal then.

        • Preston

          Not going to be an exciting return.

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            usually never is.

          • JGMAN1

            Agreed – a decent big league bat with power but makes too much dough.

      • cxz

        I’d take just about anything for him, as long as we get something. He does hold some value, not much, but enough to warrant not being DFA’d. Ackley makes him feel super pointless though, and it would really only make sense to move him, for roster space sake if nothing else.

    • JGMAN1

      Jones really never got many chances to contribute. He’s got a good bat but other than 1b and DH he doesn’t have a position and unfortunately for him those are positions of strength for the Yanks.

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        They don’t trust him in RF.

        • JGMAN1

          Exactly – he’s a DH.

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            They always favor the glove over the bat.

        • JGMAN1

          Exactly – he’s a DH.

  • MTU

    Enjoy the game folks. Just forget about the lump of coal in your stocking. :)

    • bernbabybern

      That’s what we get for asking for Cole.

    • Pete22

      Coal turns to diamonds, with a bit time, temperature and pressure. Let CC sit on it for awhile

      • BUDDHABING0

        More like sitting on an egg that Cashman layed….

    • Joeman

      That trade is a joke. Why bother

  • josh0909

    Times like this is when I wish I had Beane, Dombrowski, or Rizzo as my GM. Those guys have balls and go for it.

    • John

      How many WS rings do they have combined??? Yea Cashman has what like 4 plus 1 as an assistant

      • jonathon

        cashman had very little to do with the 1st 4 and the one in 2009 helps when you can throw $$ around like its nothing

        • John

          You really have not watched this team. He brought in David Justice in 2000. He brought Clemens in 1999. He was the guy who let wettland go and summoned Rivera to turn into the best reliever. He had the balls to do it whe everyone questioned him. Sure he has his inefficiencies. Like the farm has been terrible. But in 20 yrs we have missed the postseason 3 times. FREAKING 3 TIMES!!! How many teams can say that.

        • John

          The Dodgers have thrown money around and tell me how many WS have they won recently???

    • Mike Myers

      yeah! cuz the As win it every year! –

    • IVoted4Kodos

      Maybe if they had done a better job in the offseason, they wouldn’t have to throw money and young talent at fixes.

  • BillyBall

    The fucking negativity on all these blogs drives me crazy. Like dealing with a population of bi-polar maniacs never happy. Many are now pissed that the Yankees didn’t get Price. But if you were fine giving up Severino or Judge plus then your better than me. The plan all along was to compete and allow the youth to grow and slowly move them up to big club. Now it seems like to many on here, that plan has changed and Cash is clueless.

    People read my lip-text ” WE DO NOT NEED MIKE LEAKE OR ANOTHER 3rd STARTER! WE DO NOT NEED TO TRADE THE FARM FOR A RENTAL!”
    Sorry, I feel better now, LOL.

    We have two possibly big time trades sitting in triple A named Mitchell and Sverino. These two kids may provide a bigger boost then a Leake and or even a Price. Price as a rental will give Toronto 8-10 starts and thats great, but giving up there best prospect plus for that and a chance to make the playoffs with the possibility that they don’t or get knocked out in first round to me is a huge risk. As far as Ackerly, Yankee scouts must see potential in him to fill a certain need down the stretch, he makes decent contact and he can be useful this and next year. Lets hold off on killing the Cash for being smart and saving the future and the potential inevitability of becoming the 2015 Phillies.

    Thanks Cash!

    • Austinmac

      Can any projects be traded without trading the farm? Please define that.

      • BillyBall

        Absolutely, so saying that please provide examples of prospect or prospects you want traded and the player or players we will be getting back so we can all assess your genius, lol.

    • BUDDHABING0

      What need can a .218 hitter with no power fill?

    • Pete22

      One team showing the will to win NOW, the other team hoping they have a big enough lead and that there rotation can avoid injury and protecting the FUTURE. I understand both.

  • Joeman

    Get the Dirty C here

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      Who the fuck is dirty c?

      • IVoted4Kodos

        Cashner?

      • Joeman

        Craig

      • Joeman

        Nickname for Kimbrel

  • grandedan

    Yankee Spin Machine (Jack Curry) in high gear. The Yanks like Ackley because of his versatility. He can play five positions. The guy has played LF almost exclusively the last two seasons! He’s played about 20 games in CF so I guess that’s something but he hasn’t played RF or infield hardly at all. At least Kenny is keeping it real.

    • Pete22

      They are nothing but PR agents. Its really a non-consequential move. I think its a bit of a overpay though, but neither Flores or Ramirez was getting a shot this year, and Ackley will start at 2B next year instead of Ref (sob)

      • grandedan

        I think it is a bit of an overpay but you are right, Flores and Ramirez are pretty superfluous to the Yanks although Flores shouldn’t be. I’m not sure Ackley is the starting 2b next year. He might be, but they might be grooming him, or trying to, into a Zobrist type role. We’ll see but I agree, I don’t think they think very highly of Ref. He’s probably gone before next March.

    • Still Stucky

      You still don’t know what “spin” means in this context.

      • IVoted4Kodos

        There’s a lot that he doesn’t know.

    • Rob

      In a vacuum, this is not a bad deal. But when you see the J’s get Tulo and Price, possibly improving the 25th guy on the roster comes of as a limp dick move.But, there’s still time to do something.

      • grandedan

        For this year, he’s probably just replacing Jones so the bar is low there. But I think they have plans for Ackley in the future. That might be good or bad. He’ll be taking someone’s ABs and that may not be a good thing.

  • Steak Sandwich

    Elephant is still C.C. in the room; as long as he continues to start – and this goes for the next two years

  • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

    So who goes on Sat? Mtchell, Warren, Severino? When did he pitch last?

    • Austinmac

      Mitchell unless he is needed in long relief tonight or tomorrow per reports.

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        Kenny said maybe Severino but he just pitched last night.

        • Austinmac

          That can’t happen. My understanding is Mitchell, and if he pitches, then Warren. If they both pitch, go limber up your arm.

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            Could be Moreno if he’s still here.
            Someone has to go.

            • Austinmac

              Girardi said no since he wouldn’t have enough rest. He could relieve I think.

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        They are going to get somebody.
        How do you leave that open if Mitchell and Warren are needed before then?

  • Steak Sandwich

    n a followup tweet, Stark adds that the number of people who feel Kimbrel will end up with the Yankees is “amazing.” New York already possesses a dominant late-inning duo in the form of Andrew Miller and Dellin Betances. Adding Kimbrel to the mix would give them a trio to rival the three-headed bullpen monster (Greg Holland, Wade Davis and Kelvin Herrera) that the Royals rode to the World Series in 2014. The Astros, too, like Kimbrel, according to Stark. However, Houston wouldn’t want to take on all of the money he’s owed.

    but we are not allowed to be like other teams. . . .

    • vwnut13

      Don’t forget Shreve.

    • Pete22

      The thing with Kimbrel is nobody has to be stuck with the money beyond 2015, since he can be easily traded in the offseason. Kimbrel was pretty awful the first 2 months. Might be one of those guys who does not take change too well. If the Yankees get him I wonder if it will be due to concerns with Millers arm. Forearm strains can be a precursor to UCL injury. Miller has given up 5 runs and 2 HR in 8 innings of work since coming back from the DL

  • jonathon

    I cant believer flores was traded for ackley. not only do we lose flores but now refsnyder is useless and has no role on the team going forward too. all the yanks do is talk about prospects , prospects and their building the farm but when push come to shove they have no trust in them and never actually use them

    • Still Stucky

      Wasn’t acquired to start at 2nd base, but sure. what the hell…

    • Tar

      Ackley is only 27

    • Deep Thoughts

      ..

  • PriceyMustacheMasher

    Tulo batting leadoff… Not your typical leadoff hitter

  • blake

    @jaysonst: Amazing all the people who still think Craig Kimbrel winds up going to the #Yankees. #Astros also interested but wouldn’t want all the $

    I just don’t see it….could be convinced to like if but have to see th deal. If the Yanks trade for Kinbrel I hope the plan is to flip him this winter

    • Pat M

      Might have to take Shields as well as Kimbrel

      • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

        If it’s just money then do it.

        • Austinmac

          Hal fainted with such talk.

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            He wants to keep his money and his prospects?

        • Pat M

          I agree if you want to secure a shot of a deep October run…. Things are different in the Bronx nowadays…Stockholders want dividend payoffs in December now that George is gone…

          • http://riveraveblues.com/ Mick

            Hal is a newbie and might have lessons to learn.
            What if his experiment fails and they don’t make the playoffs in the next 5-10 years?

            • Pat M

              They’ll no longer own the team by then. Once Mrs. Steinbrenner passes on or says it’s time to sell Yanks will be sold…. Selling their hunk of Yes was the start of devesting and avoiding inheritance taxes

  • Steak Sandwich

    Jayson Stark ?@jaysonst 31m31 minutes ago
    The asking price remains heavy, but #Reds still talking to teams about Aroldis Chapman. Hearing #Dbacks, #Astros, #SFGiants & #Yankees

    Yanks will get a reliever

    • PriceyMustacheMasher

      So fun that the DBacks are in on him.. They are beyond clueless.. Imagine this board if we did like the Dbacks

      • Steak Sandwich

        Dave Stewart as your GM – as Rick James would say via the Chappelle show – cocaine is a hellava drug

    • IVoted4Kodos

      Shreve – Betances – Miller – Chapman

      I don’t care what order, that would be fun. Would be surprised if that’s the move the Yankees made, but that would be fun. Miller would almost be throwing changeups compared to Chapman.

  • Adam

    Gomez and fiers to Astros. Big time move for them.

    Edit: this makes the mets look even worse, right? Another contender looked at his medicals and signed off on paying him two years.

    • Austinmac

      Good for them.

  • HoopDreams

    Lol, Dodgers DFA Michael Morse.

    • YankeeFan™

      i think we could use him off our bench.

    • PriceyMustacheMasher

      Literally money out the window. I wish I was that rich

    • Steak Sandwich

      They can do that – they are just amazing – I mean they got Jose Peraza for literally nothing

      • OscarGamblesAfro

        Ha, you must not have been a Yankee fan in the 70s and 80s, we did shit like that all the time.

    • blake

      The amount of money they just throw out the window without caring truly is amazing

      • Pat M

        Yanks were once compelled to win at all cost money wise. It’s makes up lot’s of mistakes on so many fronts….

        • ohioyankee

          Yeah the Dodgers have become the Yankees on Steroids

          • Pat M

            Time Warner gives them more than enough dough to cover their payroll. Then add the 4 million in attendance

        • blake

          Yup….even in their hay day though the Yanks didn’t make it rain like this.

  • Steak Sandwich

    Pineda has the same injury as Miller – BUT he will not come back as quickly as Miller – Miller only need a cup of coffee to rehab – Pineda needs to have his pitch count rebuilt before coming back

    I think they are now going to add a SP pitcher

  • blake

    If the Yanks got Kimbrel and he pitched well then they could potentially get a nice haul for him this winter…..maybe could help them get a 2b or something .

    • HoopDreams

      I don’t know what type of 2B though, not much out there.

      • blake

        Detroit could use a closer ….kimmy for Kinsler this winter?

        • HoopDreams

          Kinsler is just another Phillips, at least he’s getting real close to it.

          • blake

            Nah….he can hit still

    • Joeman

      Dirty C

    • dickylarue

      That’s something the Dodgers would do. Not the sensible Hal led Yankees.

  • dayanks

    Gomez and Fiers to Astros. Damn.

    • PriceyMustacheMasher

      Is gonna get called off again

    • calripyankee

      We got our man..

    • ohioyankee

      Man the Astros and Blue Jays have to be the 2 most improved teams. Astros are a dnagerous team now with that rotation

      • Steak Sandwich

        in the AL, the Dodgers are freaking nightmare for the NL going forward after this season

        • Adam

          I agree, they have a ton of talent on the cusp, and are a threat to sign anyone.

        • vwnut13

          That’s because the NL traded everyone else who was good to the AL.

  • blake

    @JeffPassan: Carlos Gomez and Mike Fiers are indeed headed to Houston, source tells Yahoo Sports. @jonheymancbs was first with it.

    Whoa

    • Steak Sandwich

      exodus to the AL of talent continues

    • Tyler

      Houston is becoming so annoying.

    • Big Tasty

      mets lol

  • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

    Its time to be sellers Seattle & Texas.

  • Austinmac

    Another Refsnyder ugly error on an a very easy ground ball.

    • Steak Sandwich

      Wade could move off SS at some point and probably will surpass him

      • Tom

        Doesn’t he already play some 2B?

        • ohioyankee

          Not before Drew plays another 3 years

    • blake

      He botched a DP ball last night

      • Austinmac

        And had a throwing error.

    • BUDDHABING0

      Probably heard about Ackley trade before the game….kid doing a Wilmer Flores impersonation…tears got in his eyes….

  • Tom

    MLB might as well have the Dodgers play the Astros in the world series and skip the first 2 rounds. They are head and shoulders above the rest of the teams in their leagues.

    • Joeman

      Royals will be right there

    • Big Tasty

      games arent played on paper…

    • Too Many Idiots

      The winner has to play Boston for the championship.

    • Pete22

      Dodgers are limited by Mattingly who is not a great playoff manager.

  • YankeeFan™

    Morse probably go back to the Giants.

  • Mustang

    Rob grandedan • a minute ago
    In a vacuum, this is not a bad deal. But when you see the J’s get Tulo and Price, possibly improving the 25th guy on the roster comes of as a limp dick move.But, there’s still time to do something.

    WORTH REPEATING!!!!

  • blake

    @Buster_ESPN: Reds willing to trade Jay Bruce to the Mets for Zack Wheeler now. Worth watching over the next 20 hours.

    Lol

    • Pete22

      Thats a better deal for the Mets than Gomez IMO

      • blake

        Gomez > Bruce

      • Steak Sandwich

        Gomez CF and Bruce is really all or nothing – feel like they have that with Granderson already

    • YankeeFan™

      i would do it they’re In need of a big power bat in that lineup and have lots of pitching and Bruce is only 28.

  • Joeman

    Leake and Bruce for Gardner &

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      We need Gardner to make a trade for dirty c

      • Joeman

        Get Dirty C cheaper than that

  • HoopDreams

    Probably a fantasy, but Im sure taking Shields off the Padres hands along with Kimbrel lowers the prospect haul. I think if anything they get Kimbrel alone.

  • YankeeFan™

    would ya take Shields and Kimbrel off the Padres if they ask for low minor league players ?

    • Joeman

      Me too

    • PriceyMustacheMasher

      Depends on who.. Is it Mateo or Katoh?

      • YankeeFan™

        More like Refsnyder and a couple low minor players with the Yankees taking on a lot of the salary.

        • PriceyMustacheMasher

          Like Blake already said, not my money, so sure..

    • blake

      Absolutely but it ain’t my money and Hal…..ya know

  • cxz

    Ironic that Houston, who had problems signing Aiken over injury concerns, agreed to deal for Gomez, who the Met’s supposedly backed out of over injury concerns. Funny, and ironic

    • Steak Sandwich

      “injury concerns” is code word for frugal

      • Rob

        “Frugal” is code word for cheap bastards when it involves the Mets.

    • Big Tasty

      mets all about $$$

  • Steak Sandwich

    Yanks will play other teams young players: Gregorius, Shreve, Eovaldi

    Will they give their own prospects the same chance???

    • IVoted4Kodos

      They play the players they think can help the team.

      • Steak Sandwich

        bullshit – no reason Sabathia on the team other than contract –

        • Tyler

          …. and that contract is a pretty big reason. Do you think that will somehow just vanish?

          • Pete22

            Its like going into debt and owing 100K and deciding another 100K won’t be any worse. Such a thing as cutting your losses. Every Loss is worth 7 million. Businesses cut non-performing assets all the time when keeping the asset costs them even more money than cutting it would.

            The contract has to be paid either way. Maybe they are hoping he blows out a shoulder so the 2017 option does not vest, but that seems unlikely

            • Tyler

              That just doesn’t seem to be how it works in sports. I can’t remember a guy getting cut with that much money still left on a contract. Salary dump sure, but teams try to get whatever they can out of it. That being said, I still don’t think CC is taking up a spot for a young kid. Warren yes but Severino wouldn’t be up here even without CC

            • John

              Except if you’re the Dodgers. They are paying players to play for other teams. Like 80 mil or so

          • Pete22

            Its like going into debt and owing 100K and deciding another 100K won’t be any worse. Such a thing as cutting your losses. Every Loss is worth 7 million. Businesses cut non-performing assets all the time when keeping the asset costs them even more money than cutting it would.

            The contract has to be paid either way. Maybe they are hoping he blows out a shoulder so the 2017 option does not vest, but that seems unlikely

        • IVoted4Kodos

          Of course the contract is the reason. They’re also not holding back their own young players at the expense of others. They’re playing the young guys they think will help the most.

      • ClusterDuck

        So your response is that the Yankees can do no wrong.

        • IVoted4Kodos

          Yes, because that’s pretty clearly what I said there.

          My response is that there’s no conspiracy to not give their own guys a chance.

          • ClusterDuck

            Right, the poster pretty clearly said it was a conspiracy.

            Obviously the poster disagrees with the Yankees judgement…and so do I.

        • IVoted4Kodos

          Yes, because that’s pretty clearly what I said there.

          My response is that there’s no conspiracy to not give their own guys a chance.

    • Too Many Idiots

      About a dozen players made their debut with the team this season.

  • ohioyankee

    Overall been a pretty cool deadline, teams that haven’t been there in a while going crazy even though our own team looks like it is going as is. Nice to see the sport healthy.

    • Steak Sandwich

      Very healthy, still too regional sometimes, move to individualized channel programming and death of verizon/at&t subscription bundle plans will need to be followed over the next decade

  • Joeman

    Dirty C Dirty C. Dirty C

  • YankeeFan™

    give credit to those Houston Astros.

    • ohioyankee

      They are definitely going for it. They look like a better team than the Angels but we shall see. Hard to see other teams getting better why we stay in place

      • YankeeFan™

        yep i pray we make a move from here to tomorrow.

      • Tom

        They have the core of young players to build around.

        • ohioyankee

          Just like the killer b’s and the big three Hughes, Joba, and Kennedy. Lets wait until they do something before we call them a core of anything

          • Tom

            Their young players have shown that they can be productive in the big leagues. Altuve won a batting title. Springer showed he has power in half a season. Correa is off to a good start in his first 2 months.

      • Tom

        They have the core of young players to build around.

    • John

      Its crazy that the medicals were just an excuse andit was bc they did not wanna take extra money

  • Steak Sandwich

    Lail sill in AA. . .

    • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread

      3 levels in one season is alot to ask for a prep player.

  • Steak Sandwich

    The Brewers will receive an impressive haul of outfield prospects Brett Phillips and Domingo Santana, right-hander Adrian Houser and lefty Josh Hader, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter). Heyman adds that the medicals in this deal have already been approved, so Gomez’s hip is clearly not a concern for the Astros.

    • Big Tasty

      worth repeating…. lol mets

    • Yankeefan93

      A lot better than the Mets deal.

      • Big Tasty

        thats bc Fiers is included as well

      • Big Tasty

        thats bc Fiers is included as well

    • cxz

      Oh wow. Good for them losing out on the Mets deal, I like this one a lot more

      • Steak Sandwich

        remember though they giving up Friers in addition to Gomez

      • Steak Sandwich

        remember though they giving up Friers in addition to Gomez

  • NH Yankee fan

    Denise Richards sporting a Jets bikini..

    • Preston

      Her taste in teams is about as good as her taste in men.

      • Bruce

        Tote bags kinda groovy …

      • Mustang

        Damn !!!
        LOL
        well said
        LOL
        This why I refuse to trade you.

      • Rob

        “Winning”

    • dalelama

      Looking kinda skanky…with knees like those she should stick to long pants unless just rug burns. Look more like callouses though. Wouldn’t make Jeter’s top 100.

  • Steak Sandwich

    There are obviously unique properties to each injury, but it’s worth noting that both Masahiro Tanaka (about six weeks) and Andrew Miller (roughly a month) missed time with forearm injuries this season. Neither one was back quickly.

    per Chad Jennings

    • Pete22

      Since coming back

      Miller, 8 IP, 5 runs, 2 HR
      Tanaka 3.99 ERA, 1.8 HR/9

  • Douglas Rau

    Recently acquired Mike Morse is one of a few players who has already been designated for assignment to make room for other new players. Geez, the guy didn’t even get a Dodgers jersey.

    • Too Many Idiots

      However, he did receive a Mattingly bobblehead and a Vin Scully key chain.

      • Douglas Rau

        I’d take it: Donnie Baseball was my first favorite ball player.

        • Bruce

          Of his era, mine too!

  • KimbrelSlice

    What? The Jays didn’t land Gomez?

  • Austinmac

    Sanchez with a rocket double.

    • vwnut13

      …Kimbrel…

      • Austinmac

        He looks like the best hitter in the planet tonight. Anyone watching around baseball or have the scouts gone home?

        • grandedan

          Sherman is saying the Yanks have decided now he will not be traded for a rental.

          • vwnut13

            Kimbrel isn’t a rental.

            • grandedan

              True. But a lot of targets out there are and I think Sherman is saying Sanchez is rising in the pecking order internally.

              • John

                I would not trade Sanchez for a reliever. Ppl forget he is 22. The Yanks should be able to fetch more than that.

                • Mustang

                  LOL
                  Dude is one best reliever in the game!!!!
                  I would drive Sanchez to San Diego from PA
                  LOL

      • Mustang

        Thinking the same thing.

  • Austinmac

    Sanchez with a rocket double.

  • Tyler

    3-2 Jays. Navarro of all people with a 2 run homer.

    • Austinmac

      Nine right handed hitters. Juggle the rotation as necessary to miss CC.

      • Tyler

        Ya Duffy is throwing for KC so they are stacked against the lefty. Tomorrow is going to be real interesting with Cueto on the mound.

    • Big Tasty

      pimpin it like a maaaafucker

    • Steak Sandwich

      Damn good offense with a solid 1-3 in the rotation – if they pen help – forget about it

  • Tyler

    3-2 Jays. Navarro of all people with a 2 run homer.

  • Steak Sandwich

    more from Jennings:

    Byran Mitchell is a candidate to start Saturday, but Girardi said he will consider Mitchell to be an available long man tonight and tomorrow. If Mitchell’s not needed in either of those games, he could get that Saturday start. If not Mitchell, Girardi did not rule out the idea of using Adam Warren.

    Girardi did rule out Diego Moreno for Saturday. After throwing 5.1 innings on Tuesday, Moreno would be on three days rest for Saturday’s game, and Girardi said he would not consider Moreno to be a viable starting option that day.

    So it looks like Mitchell and Warren are the top options to fill the open rotation spot in the short term, but the Yankees need a starter beyond Saturday. Is Luis Severino an option?

    “Yeah, I mean, he’s obviously in the mix,” Girardi said. “He’s one of the starters down there (in Triple-A), and you’re going to have to talk about it.”

    • RetroRob

      As I suggested earlier, if they don’t trade for a starter, having Severino do his August starts in the majors is certainly an option, then he hands the baton back to Pineda when he arrives back in September, hopefully fresh and ready to go deep into October.

      Still think a pitcher is coming via trade, but having one of the best starting pitcher prospects waiting for the call in AAA is not the worst situation.

    • Bruce

      If they move Eovaldi and Nova up a day, that leaves them needing a starter on Sunday rather than Saturday; correct? If so, that could mean someone they acquire could get the start then — or not.

  • Mustang

    Stark adds that the number of people who feel Kimbrel will end up with the Yankees is “amazing.” New York already possesses a dominant late-inning duo in the form of Andrew Miller and Dellin Betances. Adding Kimbrel to the mix would give them a trio to rival the three-headed bullpen monster (Greg Holland, Wade Davis and Kelvin Herrera) that the Royals rode to the World Series in 2014. The Astros, too, like Kimbrel, according to Stark. However, Houston wouldn’t want to take on all of the money he’s owed.
    Stark also tweets that the Reds are still discussing Aroldis Chapman with teams, but the price remains very high. At this time, the Yankees, Diamondbacks, Giants and Astros are all in the mix for Chapman, who is earning $8.05MM in 2015 and is controlled via the arbitration process for the 2016 season.

    If anything big going to happen this is the way they will probably go.
    Still don’t think anything going to happen.(I don’t even count the Ackley trade) LOL

    • ohioyankee

      Yeah they just don’t have the pieces to make any kind of impact deal

      • Mustang

        Have the pieces and/or can take the money just don’t want to.
        There is a big difference there.

        • Rob

          Chapman will take pieces they wouldn’t trade for Hamels or Price. Kimbrel is more about absorbing money which they also haven’t shown much interest in doing. Chapmam smells more like a Randy Levine kinda move. Kimbrel is something Cash would need approval for.

          • Mustang

            “The Padres requested shortstop prospect Jorge Mateo in trade talks about Craig Kimbrel, but the Yankees said no. New York is willing to eat the entire $28M left on Kimbrel’s contract, but they won’t surrender top prospects. [Jon Heyman] “

        • Duzzi24

          Unlike the Dodgers who absorb money from everyone and robbed the Braves blind at the same time.

    • My name is Paul Heyman

      Just a Q: how much $$ is owed to Kimbrel?

      • Mustang

        33MM

  • grandedan

    For what it’s worth, Jack Curry, Yankee Press Secretary (and Spin Doctor), talked about how Severino has nothing more to prove in AAA and it may make sense for his last 50 innings this year to be used in the major leagues.

    TBA pitching Saturday.

    • Austinmac

      He pitched yesterday so it’s not him on Saturday. Next week seems likely.

      • grandedan

        Ok, good point. Maybe he’s heading for the bullpen though with Warren or Mitchell moving up. I would rather see him break in in the bullpen anyway.

    • Steak Sandwich

      How can they start him Saturday when they just pitched him on Wednesday? Makes more sense to pitch Nova (Monday’s starter) on Saturday and then Severino on full 4 days rest Sunday

      • ohioyankee

        Because they aren’t calling him up. He won’t be up until the end of August

        • ClusterDuck

          By the end of August his pitch limit will be up. They should call him up now.

    • vwnut13

      Call him SKTBA.

  • blake

    Only thing about Severino joining the rotation is let’s say he comes up and pitches well…..what are you gonna do? Strasburg him come playoff time? Push him 100 innings past where he’s gone before?

    It’s a tricky situation…..because if he comes up and is one of their best starters…..it’s gonna be hard to shut him down when he hits that innings limit

    • Preston

      Yup

    • ohioyankee

      How does his calling up effect his clock such as arbitration and super 2

      • blake

        Good question….I’m not sure. I don’t think it would count towards his clock this year? But I’m not sure

        • LazerTown

          Any time he accrues this year would count towards his clock, he would not be able to get entire year of service time this year though.

          • blake

            There you go

      • Preston

        It starts the clock. If he stayed up he’s well beyond the super two, he’d be eligible for arbitration after the 2018 season. If he goes down again it depends on for how long.

        • ohioyankee

          Thanks

        • blake

          There you go….Preston to the rescue

      • Hank

        Service clock starts.

        To get a 7th year (instead of 6) you have to hold a player down in the minors 11 or 12 days one year (think Kris Bryant situation this year). If he comes up now, that would add to the time they have to hold him down next year if they want to get a 7th year of club control. So if say he spent 20 days up in the majors they’d need to hold him down that extra time next year

        As for Super Two – the cutoff data is fluid but is usually early /mid June (think Carlos Correa); so any time he gets this year would push that back if they wanted to avoid the 4th arb year,

        The Yankees don’t seem to worry about Super two (and shouldn’t as a big market team), but they should try to nab a 7th year of control when possible.

    • Big Tasty

      his innings limit will take care of it.. they wont care (and shouldnt)

    • Steak Sandwich

      They did it w/ Warren, they’ll do it again – plus Pineda might be back by then

    • grandedan

      Just put him in the bullpen. Do a Price with him in the playoffs.

      • blake

        That’s what you’d have to do …..I mean he’s only thrown 61 innings this year. They might push him to 150 so it’s possible he could manage it so he could finish the season ….but it would be a balancing act toward the end there

    • Austinmac

      I have heard Cashman say sometime in the past all innings bets are off in the playoffs.

      • blake

        I’ve heard some speculate that they have kinda managed his innings early this year in case they wanted to use him in the majors more down the stretch…..again he’s only thrown 61 innings this year

        • Preston

          That’s 61 at AAA, he threw 38 at AA. He threw 113 last year (but he may have logged more in ExST). He’s probably capped around 150-165 innings, he’s at 99.1.

          • blake

            Snap you’re right

    • dickylarue

      Hey I know! Let’s create “Luis Rules” and then sell t-shirts!

    • Rob

      Anything but Joba rules.

  • Monterocouldstillbedinero

    I go to the gym, out to dinner, mow the lawn and I missed this?

    • Mustang

      You’re better off that you did.

  • Douglas Rau

    Do you think, given the additional years of team control and low money, the Yankees might be willing to part with Luis Severino to get Tyson Ross, maybe as part of a bigger deal that includes Craig Kimbrel (and all of his money)?

    • ohioyankee

      I would guess not. They didn’t for Hamels and didn’t even listen on Price

    • Mustang

      Nope

    • BillyBall

      Why would you want to trade Severino for Ross who is a huge injury risk but very good arm? Severino could get called up and give us same value as Ross and he is younger. Are we suggesting making a trade out of anxiety and concern over not staying calm and going to battle with what we have?

      • Douglas Rau

        No, just spit-balling. I’ve been watching this stuff all day. I’m a little tired.

      • Rob

        Are you sure Severino can come up and give the same value as Tyson Ross? In 2015? You are really underrating how good Ross is. He’s struggled with control this year, still having a pretty nice year, but that’s certainly a concern. May be regressing some from last year. But he’s got great stuff, and his typical high strikeout totals. Was a top 20 SP last year

        • BillyBall

          Yes top 20 starting pitcher in the National League pitching in a pitcher park with an injury riddled career.

  • YankeeFan™

    off to the game thread.

  • https://youtu.be/alYXF7a9N3U Memory Bread
    • Douglas Rau

      Wonder if the trade deadline and concerns about getting moved is in his head.

  • grandedan

    I can see Cashman going right to the deadline to get the starter he wants, but if that doesn’t work out, going the Kimbrel route or maybe even Chapman. I think Chapman is significantly more valuable than Kimbrel right now.

    The Yanks’ org culture is big on the “pivot.”

    • Pat M

      Chapman will be expensive compared to Kimbrel

      • Mustang

        Kimbrel is also under control longer.

  • Austinmac

    Dustin McGowan, once the Jays crown jewel, is not coming in for long relief in AAA. Forecasting baseball players is a tough business.

  • Deep Thoughts

    “We like his versatility, and his last name already sounds like a nickname that ends in ‘y’.” –Joe Girardi

    • Austinmac

      Name tool. Catchy names build popularity and fan interest.

    • vwnut13

      Shit, get Drew Smyly. “Smylyly was great tonight!”

  • Jake

    Sterling’s HR Call: “General Ackley said to that pitch, ITS A TRAP!”

  • vwnut13

    Tigers beating dem hO’s.

  • Jman1213

    Um, yay? I’m at a loss as to where he fits.