Dec
23

Money talks for the Yanks and Teixeira

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So I spend my day having lunch with my parents, and I come home to this news. It’s fairly shocking, but as my dad said, “I expected that.” Mark Teixeira and the New York Yankees just made too much sense. He fills an obvious need right away, and even if the deal includes the ever-popular opt-out, the Yanks will get a few years of Teixeira’s peak.

As details about the signing emerge, Dan Granziano runs them down. The deal — eight years and $180 million — will contain a no-trade clause, and we’ve just learned via Danny Knobler that it will not contain an opt-out clause.

What this Teixeira signing indicates though is that a new generation of Steinbrenners is willing to spend what it takes to win just like George. They’ve also managed to do so without trading any of their prized young arms. Here’s what they have, as per Graziano:

Alex Rodriguez (2008-17): 10 years, $275 million
Derek Jeter (2001-10): 10 years, $189 million
Mark Teixeira (2009-2016): 8 years, $180 million
CC Sabathia (2009-2015): 7 years, $161 million

He writes further:

Those are also four of the five largest contracts in baseball history — the fifth being the 10-year, $252 million deal Rodriguez signed with the Rangers prior to 2001. Rodriguez was traded to the Yankees after the 2003 season and opted out of that deal to sign a larger one after the 2007 season.

Also, assuming the deal goes through, the Yankees will have signed six major free agents since the end of the 2007 season (when George Steinbrenner‘s sons took control of the team) for a total of just under $800 million:

Alex Rodriguez: 10 years, $275 million
Mark Teixeira: 8 years, $180 million
CC Sabathia: 7 years, $161 million
A.J. Burnett: 5 years, $82.5 million
Jorge Posada: 4 years, $52.4 million
Mariano Rivera: 3 years, $45 million

The Yankees are playing with house money. They’ve bought the pieces they need to supplement the prospects they’re developing. We’ll find out starting in April how it all works. Right now, the Yanks are rich, and they’re not afraid to spend, spend, spend.

Categories : Analysis
  • jsbrendog

    still. sont. know. what. to . do.

    i wasnt for tex but now that it happened i am still speechless..i dont know…wtf

  • Mike Pop

    And hopefully it leads to title after title

    • The Scout

      It better, because this is Cashman’s legacy. He has decided to use the Yankees vast corporate resources to capitalize on the limited window presented by an aging core of everyday players, while also building a bridge to the future when (in theory) the Yankees can produce cost-effective home-grown talent. If the team wins a championship in the next two years, I will judge his strategy a success. We’ll never know whether it was overkill or whether the money might have been better spend elsewhere, but I will be content that the team achieved what Cashman set out to do.

      • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

        If this team does not win a championship THIS year, it is a major failure. This is all in. A 89 win team adds these sorts of players they HAVE to win it all.

        I am not a fan of the Texiera signing. I understand it, but do not like it. Another long deal with a no trade for a guy with a funny body type. Manny is out there on the cheap compared to this. If they are playing these types of games just picking up the top guys out there for stupid money they better got get Manny too.

        • Zebidiah

          I think if they can make it out of the short series, they win it all.

          • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

            IF they do NOT make it out of that five game series they will be the laughing stock of baseball.

            We still need a bench. We also need to find a way to get rid of Matsui now, and or Swisher. Swisher if he gets traded man how dumb will he feel for doing that phone press conference?

            I still think this deal does not address our biggest needs as much as it does tweak the Sox. I think Yanks only signed him because he was bound for Boston, if he was going to sign in LA or Washington he would be there now instead of in Pinstripes.

            • Mike Pop

              I dont think Swish gets traded. He is the only vet piece to go to the outfield for 2010.

              • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

                Swish would also allow them to get a bench guy that does not play first well, like a better glove lil guy who has speed hopefully.

        • Kevin

          A funny body type?????????? Care to expand on that????

  • Mike Pop

    I think I am more excited about this signing then I was about the CC deal because of how it murdered the Sox.

    • JeffG

      Exactly – on a strategy basis this was a big up to take away from one of our top competitors. Plus it makes them cry. Lovin’ it.

  • kenthadley

    Kellerman thinks there is a push for Huston Street to set-up Mariano…..Kennedy and some other stuff…..is this just his speculation, or has anyone heard of this?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Ben K.

      Haven’t heard a word about this, and I don’t think the Rockies are going to deal Street unless they get blow away by a proposal. Is he just talking about this on the radio?

      • kenthadley

        yes, on his show today……he seemed to think it was being pursued, but I couldn’t tell if that was his way of pushing it or if he has some kind of insight to it. just thought you guys would have heard about it also, since you seem to be on top of everything NYY….so maybe it is just his “fan” coming out……wonder how the Bosox blogs are doing today? must be ” a Blue Christmas in Beantown”….

        • Chris A

          The boston ppl have the stance of..’oh we never really wanted him, hes just an overrated high priced dh’

          • Alan

            Teixeira is an injury risk and has never been a winner. He’s not gritty enough to win a championship. The Red Sox were only involved in an effort to drive up the price for the Yankees, who were the front runner all along.

            • Jeff

              Haha!!! Really?!? Are you serious right now???? Dude, get your facts straight. Peter Gammons, Red Sox die hard lover said his team, THE SAWX, where going to sign Tex. AND YOU LOST!!!! You Sox fans are full of crap!!

              • Mike Pop

                He was joking if you didnt see it

                • Jeff

                  No I couldn’t tell, but it sounds like a typical sox fan. Guess they are all returning their pre ordered jerseys from noon :)

                • Alan

                  Hook, line, and sinker. Guess I should have thrown in some “!!!1!1!1!1!1!!1!!” so that people knew I was being sarcastic.

                • http://www.sportinggurus.com Adam

                  Baha nice one.

                • Dominik

                  I was listening to 1050 ESPN today because I had to do some cleaning and was out of earshot of ESPN News in the other room. I dont listen to sports radio as a habit, but it’s as bad as its repuation. Kellerman was still talking about signing Manny, trading for Cameron and this Street idea, which is complete lunacy, all for players like Melky, Kennedy, Veras, Bruney and Igawa. None of it’s going to happen and he’s clueless for suggesting it. I’m curious to see if this puts the kibosh on Pettitte, though

                • planet

                  Kellerman had been pushing for the yanks to sign Teix and not make the mistake of signing Manny…

              • Jay CT

                I fricken hate Max Kellerman. He is a loud mouth jerk who takes the opposite approach to everyone else just to hear himself talk. he throws out stupid ideas all the time, so you can’t put merit into him discussing Houston Street. Once he said that he wouldn’t trade Eddy Curry for Kevin Garnett (when KG was still with Minnesota) he lost me forever. Him and his stupid “army.”

    • J.R.

      I wouldn’t see a need to trade for Street, the bullpen is already great and there are more arms in waiting in AAA.

  • J.R.

    God I love being a Yankees fan.

    • steve

      hahah. i agree completely. i got 4 texts from my anti yankee fans when this happened. man the whole world is pissed at the yanks

      and i love it.

      • mustang

        That’s the best part.

      • A.D.

        THE EVIL EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

  • MrJigginz

    Going into this offseason,the two guys I wanted the Yankees to acquire the most were CC and Teixeira,in that order…I’m absolutely tickled.

  • Alan

    Long live the Evil Empire, guys, we might as well embrace it at this point.

    • The Scout

      Just for fun, slide on over to some of the Red Sox fan blogs. Much sour grapes over there. Enjoy!

      • Alan

        “Bawww…our team only offered 168 million, you guys are big unfair meanies!”

        • Ryan S.

          Henry totally pussed out. It should’ve been worth the extra cash to them just to block us from getting them. Boston could’ve accepted Tex going to Baltimore or to the Nationals … but to us? They must be shitting in their pants.

          • Mike Pop

            They wouldnt care as much if they still had Mashing Manny but they have to be a bit concerned regardless of what they say.

            • Alan

              In my opinion, they’re going to push alot harder for Ramirez/Teagarden/Saltalamacchia. There’s no way they can sit idly by while Ortiz gets older and has less protection in the lineup than he’s had in years.

              • Mike Pop

                Na Manny is going back. It was all part of Theo’s genious plan. He wanted Manny to pull that so they could get Bay for Hansen and Moss and that for 2009 have Manny and Bay in the same lineup with Pedroia and Youk.

                Theo did it again

              • Jeff

                What about teh captain? Isn’t he better than Posada? Sox fans are typical – Love em when they are good, hate em when they aren’t any good to you anymore!!!

                • Alan

                  Yep, they did the same thing to Nomar and Lowe. I can’t ever see myself turning my back on someone like Jeter or Posada, players that have been with the Yankees forever, regardless of their performance. They came up as Yankees, they retire as Yankees. End of story. Even A-Rod, who some consider not to be a “Real Yankee”, deserves our support every time he hits the field.

  • JeffG

    Better call an ambulance right now… Gammons is going to drop dead.

    • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

      “Put em in a body bag” (annoying extra kid bad guy in karate kid tone)

    • Alan

      I think I just heard on the news there’s bodies floating in Boston Harbor.

      • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

        Is Ted Kennedy driving around again?

        • Alan

          You owe me a new keyboard, because its soaked with water right now.

          • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

            Did Ted Kennedy drive around with your keyboard too?

            • headstand

              ROFLE

              • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

                I bet half the board is clueless due to age like I am clueless when they put stuff like:

                GOWD 1111111111111111 THE SUX0R 111111111111111

                The generation gap is sometimes wide on the old RAB my young dizzles.

  • Mike K.

    Damn, last year everyone said I was crazy when I told them the Rays were going to be sick. Look what happened. This year, I told everyone we were going to land CC, A.J., and Teix, look what happened.

    Now I call this – Mark Melancon will be our setup man this year. And we should sign Baldelli to platoon with Gardner.

    Also, not too keen on Andy – and I know this one is actually crazy, but Charlie Haeger anyone? I know its probably just my knuckleball obsession, but he’s only 25!

    • jsbrendog

      im in for the knucleballer haha

  • gg

    I am very suprised….are people still not going to call us the front runner for the division crown??? how could that even be possible

    • Alan

      Don’t worry, I’m sure John Kruk will be on Sportscenter tonight proclaiming that the Yankees still haven’t done enough to surpass the Red Sox.

      • Mike Pop

        Lol, “They still have the 5th rotation spot to fill and their are uncertainties about their position at Catcher, Left Field and Center Field. In my mind despite the 426 million or so they spent they still are not a playoff team.”

        • Alan

          Don’t forget the gaping hole in our bullpen. Whos going to set up for Mariano!?!

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike A.

          That’s so stupid. You know “uncertainties” is too big a word for Kruk.

          • Alan

            I approve of this comment.

          • Jay CT

            Steve Phillips and Buster both said that they still are not the team to beat in the east. At best, they have pulled even they said on 6 oclock SC

            • Mike Pop

              Is our lineup better than Boston ? I would say so. If AJ stays healthy all season I think our rotation is better too.

            • Alan

              Are you serious? I guess I need to watch SC tonight. Steve Phillips doesn’t deserve to have a job, everyone knows this, but I’m shocked at Olney saying that.

      • A.D.

        He also said they should move Joba to the pen and Tex to a pinch hitting role

    • truth

      how is it possible that the yanks have not been crowned yet? lineup 08 vs lineup 09:

      not in order necc:
      2009 2008
      damon damon
      jeter jeter
      TEX ABREU
      mr like a virgin a rod
      posada GIAMBINO
      cano posada
      SWISHER cano
      matsui matsui
      nady nady
      melky/gardner melky

      hmmmm after that yanks did need another bat….stilll do

  • LC

    Can we get a poll on who we think will be traded first by the Yanks?

    1. Nady
    2. Swisher
    3. Matsui

    With Tex practically signed, the yanks have too many players. They have to trade one of them right?

    • baseballnation

      Matsui is immovable right now so I think they deal Nady (he’s Fa anyway nexy year)

      • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

        I bet somebody would take Matsui if we picked up half the ride, on the one year deal he has. If I was a team in need of a DH and only had 6 mill to spend and only wanted a one year deal he would be a good bet.

        • ChrisS

          or they can just move Nady who has a little more perceived value, IMO, than Matsui’s actual value.

          The Yankees need a DH and Matsui is a much better hitter than Nady.

          • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

            Chris S, so you are saying deal Nady, we eat no contract and Swish plays right full time?

            • ChrisS

              Pretty much. Swish and whatever Nady+ brings in return with an eye on 2010.

              If you have to eat half of Matsui’s contract to move him to an AL west team that needs a DH (or add sweetner for an NL team to take a chance on him in the OF), you’re essentially paying 13 million for Nady, the lesser hitter of the two. An OF with Damon in LF, Swish in RF, and Gardner/Cabrera in CF (unless Nady brings in someone like Ankiel who can play CF this season and move to LF next) isn’t that bad and Nady isn’t that great to make up a difference.

              • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

                “unless Nady brings in someone like Ankiel”

                Why would the Cards trade Ankiel for Nady? I do not get that one?

      • Mike Pop

        I move Nady and Ipk for Rowand and 15 million right now.

        Gives you Rowand, Damon, and Swish as your outfield with your 4th outfielder being Brett I would assume.

        We can afford to take the risk of losing Nady’s bat and gaining Rowands now that we have Teix. We get an upgrade in CF and Swish and Nady might end up being a wash.

        • K.B.D.

          Rowand = career OPS+ of 104. Only one season in the last 4 with an OPS+ over 100.

          Think about it and then say no.

          • Mike Pop

            But we need guys for the outfield for 2010. All we have right now is Swish, Gardner, Melky, and A-Jax. So really thats 3 question marks. He may be losing speed for his defense but all we are asking him to do if play CF for at most 2 years, hopefully 1 when A-Jax comes up. If they picked up 15 million that would be a 4 year 29 million dollar deal for us. 7.25 for him is worth it dont you think ?

            Again, Im not saying this is a great idea but we neeed to trade an outfielder anyways and IPK doesnt seem to fit the plans for us in the future. Nady is a FA anyways. Unless we could get something of better value for X or Matsui I would really consider this trade.

            I still want X to hit 3 homers in one game so I can call him XXX.

            • A.D.

              Say no to Rowand. You can probably buy an outfielder for cheaper next year.

              Frankly with the offense we have, they can put BG in CF, let him bat 9th and see what he can do

              • Jay CT

                How about revisiting our talks (not theirs, but RAB idea) of DeJesus? I know this is an unpopular thought, but I still like Ankiel

                • ChrisS

                  I like the thought of Ankiel as well and he’s much more obtainable than DeJesus who is on a nice contract and/or a top flight mL stud.

            • K.B.D.

              Why move IPK, a cost controlled starter with decent stuff for 2 years of a league average OFer? That alone doesn’t make sense to me. Worry about 2010 when it gets here. Don’t make rash decisions until then.

        • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

          Mike Pop, as your friend and buddy I will tell you that deal is not fly. I like Aaron Rowand and all but he is not that good of a baseball player and makes way too much money for how not good he is.

          http://www.mosquitoallgon.com/images/NoFlyZone.gif

    • A.D.

      Nady and pitching to the Braves for Jordan Schafer

      • Mike Pop

        I was thinking bout that earlier today during the Rowand talk. Would be awesome to do IMO. IPK and some salary relief with it ? Maybe throw in Igawa and a couple million.

        • A.D.

          My guess is if anything theyd want an extra bullpen arm, or another starter if IPK & Nady couldn’t get it done. Figure ATL needs a LF & they could use a starter in the rotation or a pen pitcher to go with Mike Gonzalez.

          Nady + IPK + Wright or Veras or something worst case and we get Schafer and a throw in minor leaguer.

          Getting Schafer would be huge, then you have him and AJAX in AAA playing LF and CF. More likely one is definitely ready next year, and the other as they come along

          • K.B.D.

            So the braves are trading their #1 prospect for IPK, a #4 or #5 (#3 at best) starter, Nady, a career 108 OPS+ guy.

            Oh, if that doesn’t work, throw in Chase Wright (guy with purely fringe stuff) or Jose Veras (a set up guy).

            That’ll get them to bite.

            This is why people hate a ton of Yankees fans. Because some Yankees fans think their trash will get other peoples treasure.

            IPK + Veras + Nady =/= Jordan Schafer.

            • A.D.

              First of all Schafer isnt even the best OF prospect for the Braves.

              On top of that the trade partially relies on the fact that Schafer was somewhat disgraced off the HGH suspension last year.

              Then the OF is a position of strength in the minors for the Braves, they have Heyward, Gorkys, and Schafer, along with Francouer (though he has his issues) a young outfielder in the majors.

              Given they do need a bat & a LF, and appear to be looking to win this year, with the trade for Vazquez, it works with their plans.

              Obviously they may still be super high on Schafer, I don’t know. And obviously they may not want to trade him, i’m not pretending the Braves would be crazy not to do this deal, just putting out what the Yanks could offer

              The point wasn’t trash, its that the Yankees aren’t going to trade Hughes or Joba. The Braves need a LF & a pitcher that can start in the Majors, what the Yankees can offer in that regard is Nady & IPK.

              • Jay CT

                I also do not think other teams are as down on IPK as some fans are. His actual MLB innings number is still very low. I think there would be a way to get a young cost controlled CF prospect in a deal

              • K.B.D.

                Yeah, but Schafer could be that LF in a year or two (or Heyward could be). Why trade him for a career barely better than league average guy and a back of the rotation starter? If they need the starter so badly, go find somebody on the FA market who won’t cost you Schafer. It doesn’t make sense to me.

                • Mike Pop

                  IPK is young and cost-controlled though. I agree Schafer could be more valuable but if you give them a quality pen arm, Nady and another guy in AAA, wouldnt that be fair? Im saying they get 4 guys we get 1 or 2 and neither are sure things.

                • K.B.D.

                  After they got burned trading for Teixera, I see them being reluctant to deal top prospects in general.

                • A.D.

                  Could be, but the cost is less and they’re getting a couple of young players in return, so its not a bunch of prospects for a rental.

                  In reality it comes down to the desire for a team to win now, I would never have wanted to trade LaPorta for a CC rental. But it happened

                • A.D.

                  Theyre giving up a very good prospect (with baggage) for 2 major leaguers and a former 1st round pick that had torn up AAA

          • Mike Pop

            And those two are in your outfield for at least the next 6 cost controlled years together.. Get it done Cash !

            • K.B.D.

              Cash wouldn’t even be able to keep Frank Wren on the goddam line with a lead in like:

              “So about Jordan Shafer… we got this kid named Ian Patrick Kennedy. Don’t know if you’ve heard ab- *clock*… Frank? … Frank?”

              • K.B.D.

                *click* rather…

                • Mike Pop

                  What about Brandon Jones, he any good ?

                • bobtaco

                  How about Matsui, IPK, and another of the B+ level prospects for Matt Kemp. I bet Matsui would like to play for Torre again.

    • MrJigginz

      My guess is Nady will be the one to go…I wonder if they’ll try to throw in Igawa as an add in,just to free up more money.Nady for a decent prospect,or Nady + Igawa for a low minor league prospect or two…

      • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

        Nady and Igawa will get you nothing in return except a bill to pay part of Igawas contract.

  • baseballnation

    The Yankee hate is in full mode at http://projectprospect.com/for.....038;t=3955

    Viva la evil empire lol.

    • Alan

      Yep, get used to it. The ESPN message boards are flooded with Yankee hate right now. We’re opening a brand new stadium this year, why not do everything we can to christen it with a championship?

      • baseballnation

        I want to christen the bathrooms at the new Yankee stadium haha.

  • LC

    is it crazy that now b/c of the tex signing the brewers only get a 2nd rounder for CC and the Blue Jays get a 3rd rounder for AJ?

    the brewers and jays must be pissed

    • mustang

      I was thinking that especially the Blue Jays

  • E-ROC

    With the contract that Teixeira got, Albert Pujols is rolling over in his grave.

    • Glen L

      you mean jumping for joy, since pujols should and (depending on the economy, i suppose) will get a good deal more as he’s far better than teixeira and any one else (non-Hanley/Utley division)

    • A.D.

      If Pujols was completely worried about max dollar he would have waited and gone to free agency, instead of signing an extension to avoid arbitration

  • Glen L

    I’m so happy :)

    One figures Nady, or perhaps Damon, would be the most realistic to be traded

    • Ryan S.

      I doubt Damon is going. We need him as a leadoff and the players would be pissed the fuck off.

      Nady would be very easy to trade, and 3 guaranteed years of Swisher is more valuable to us than 1 guaranteed year of Nady.

      Funny, if it works out that X-Man is traded, Nady is going to have spent the first half of a season with the Mets, and a couple years later, a 2nd half of a season with the Yankees.

  • ChrisS

    Teixeira must just hate Boston. This is the second time he’s snubbed them.

    • The Scout

      Then add good taste to his list of fine qualities.

  • mustang

    3:58pm: Joel Sherman says the Red Sox were at eight years, $168MM, so the Yankees outbid them by $12MM.

    I guess Mr. Henry is not a good porker player.

    • K.B.D.

      1.5 million more a year? Not a whole lot if you ask me.

  • Hand of Abbot

    Its not my money so I’m not going to complain. One thing though. I’m seeing Damon among those rumored to be getting traded. I think this is a huge mistake. I keep on seeing him as the MVP of the off season. With Giambi gone, he’s the center of the clubhouse and he’s far and away our best leadoff hitter. I’m not really okay with this if it means Damon goes.

    • Mike Pop

      Ya we gotta keep Damon.

      • Jay CT

        Absolutely

    • Barry

      I agree Damon is an undervalued part of the team.

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com/ VO

      I highly doubt that damon will be traded, considering they had him call up CC and talk to him about NY thats just a stab in the back

  • A.D.

    Man the Brewers got hosed on the draft pick situation

    • K.B.D.

      Heh, supplemental pick and a 2nd rounder for CC? Wow.

  • A.D.

    Man the Manny market just tanked, the Angles have said no, the Yanks are out.

    Looks like he might be crawling back to the Dodgers

    • Mike Pop

      That 45 million might look good now.

    • Alan

      I agree, the big loser in this development has to be Manny Ramirez. There’s no way the Yankees sign him, at this point, and the only other interested team is the Dodgers. 2 years, 45 million?

      • A.D.

        If they’ll still offer him that. Else Boras will have to do something creative to get someone else in on it

    • Ryan S.

      Dodgers aren’t even gonna offer him 2/45 anymore…they have no reason to. Coletti totally has the upper hand in the negotiations unless the Nationals are still feeling frisky.

      • Mike Pop

        Imagine if Beane stepped in and signed him.

        • A.D.

          Marlins go with a 1 year deal…something nuts

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com/ VO

      not saying this is a possiblity but wouldnt it be just sick if the yankees got him as well?

      • http://www.sportinggurus.com Adam

        They will. 3 and 70. Bank it.

    • Jonny not the Damon

      Don’t Manny and Tex share Boras for an agent? Wonder how that next phone convo between Ramirez and Boras is going to go…

      • Mike Pop

        Manny: What the hell Scotty? You knew NYY was my leverage and landing spot
        Scotty: Manny go sit in the corner and let me do the negotiating bitch

  • Barry

    You’ll have to redo those line-up projections

  • Alan

    So, when I can order my Teixeira jersey?

    • Mike Pop

      Give it a week or so.

  • Bogie

    Swisher is buddies with CC and may have helped draw him here; Damon was an important recruiter for A.J., I believe. I’m not sure how the team chemistry would be helped by those two being traded. Matsui has two bad knees (although he can still hit (I assume)). For me, odd man out is Nady.

    • Jeff

      Swisher is good since he can back up first base and also play the outfield…

      Matsui is moveable, and possible the West Coast, like the Angels would be interested to take him on in a DH role.

      • Mike Pop

        Ya I dont see why moving Swish would be a good idea. He can play all the outfield spots and 1st. Gives them flexibility and gives players rest when needed. We have not even seen him play but people wanna trade him. Id like to keep him because hes locked up for so long and we need more outfielders after the 09 season.

        • A.D.

          Problem with moving Swish is how can you really turn around and ask for more than you gave up after the man hasn’t taken a swing

      • christopher

        assuming that matsui shows he is healthy in the sprimg, do you think the angels would dop figggins for matsui? would the yankees?

  • Mike C

    Keep Matsui as DH, Swisher in right.

    Don’t forget Jeter and his $20 million is off the books in 2010.

    • Ryan S.

      You make it sound like he isn’t coming back in 2011.

      • ChrisS

        Hopefully for less than $20/year.

        Damon and Matsui’s combined $26 million is off after this season, just as a couple of LFers are hitting the market.

        • K.B.D.

          How can you ask Jeter to take a pay cut? Seriously?

          • ChrisS

            Because he could conceivably be a 36 year old SS with three consectutive years of sub-110 OPS+ seasons.

            4 years/60 million shouldn’t be an insult to a guy wrapping up a potential HoF career. If he doesn’t like it, I’m there will be about zero teams offering more.

            • Ryan S.

              I would hope both sides find that contract agreeable, it sounds about right to me.

              • christopher

                it will say a lot about jeter if he holds out for another 20 million per contract,,,i have a feeling that he will value his reputation more than the money and comprimise with the yankees. they will wind up paying more that he is worth but he will take less thsn he thinks he is worth

      • Joey H

        for real.

  • Jay CT

    I could be wrong, but as far as I can remember, Mike Pop said about 3 weeks ago, “Imagine if the Yankees are just sitting back and waiting like they did with Damon to get Teixera.” That was the first I read about this. What an AWESOME fricken chess move the Yankees just pulled off. Amazing that in a city this big, they could have kept this type of secret. Perhaps Manny was a smoke screen all along. You still have to wonder why that Dominican newspaper was so adament about the Manny deal and if the Yankees would in fact still sign him

    • Joey H

      I’m pretty sure I’ve been saying the same thing from the beginning.

      • Jay CT

        Ok well I wans’t quite sure, but whoever said it should be really proud of themselves.

    • Mike Pop

      It was all a ploy by Cashman to keep the insiders off them and Teix.

    • christopher

      manny was most likely their back-up plan and i am sure they were talking about him. it could very well be the case that they called boras about manny and he said “you could get tex for 180 million. it hapened before. that is how the david justice trade went down – granted that was GM to GM, but you can see the conversation unfolding that way

      GM

  • J.R.

    You cant do the lineup guessing without knowing if they are going to trade matsui, damon or swisher.

    • Alan

      C – Posada
      1B – Teixeira
      2B – Cano
      SS – Jeter
      3B – Rodriguez
      LF – Damon
      CF – Swisher/Gardner
      RF – Nady

      Move Matsui to the west coast, Angels? Mariners? Trading Swisher would be a mistake, he’s the type of patient, high OBP hitter this lineup needs.

      • Joey H

        You make moving ‘Sui sound so simple.

        • Alan

          If he can prove his knees are healthy, someone would take him. We’ll have to sell low, but he’s got some gas left in the tank.

      • That guy

        As its been said numerous of times. You’ll get next to nothing moving Matsui comming back with 2 bad knees and a large contract plus his no trade clause. Has anyone thought about the market he brings with him too? How many asains tune going to yankee games watching the yankees and buying yankee stuff soley for Matsui. I think the only one who can/will be moved is Nady. FA. Good player. Get a decent return. It fits.

        • Joey H

          I think he would waive his Non-Assignablity clause to go to the right team.

        • Alan

          Nady is the most likely player to be moved, given his contract. I’d just prefer to hold onto him, he’s a solid player.

          • Mike Pop

            Id prefer to keep him but Id move him in the right scenario.

          • ChrisS

            I’d just prefer to hold onto him, he’s a solid player.

            Based on what? The Yankees bought him at his highest value and hopefully they can move him while some GMs think his first three months of 2008 are what lies ahead.

            • Mike Pop

              Hes still above average

            • steve (different one)

              based on 2229 AB’s with a 108 OPS+?

      • ChrisS

        he’s the type of patient, high OBP hitter this lineup needs.

        Which is why you move Nady’s 4:1 KK:BB ratio and 105 OPS+ and not Matsui’s 120-30 OPS+ out of the dh spot.

    • Ryan S.

      I think its none of the above. Nady seems like the likeliest to get traded.

      • Joey H

        Its not like we got Manny. We can tolerate Damon awful arm in center or even put swish in center. I don’t see the harm in doing this. If we got Manny then moving one of Nady Matsui or Damon would be eminent.

        • Ryan S.

          That’s another possibility. If we come in with Damon, Swisher, Nady, and Matsui though, I still think Girardi experiments with Gardner/Cabrera and sees if they work out better.

      • christopher

        nady has the most trade value, nut i thnk the yankees would prefer to deal matsui. there is a good chance they bring back nady – no chance they brijng back matsui

    • http://26ncounting.blogspot.com/ VO

      my guess is nady is gone i doubt they would trade newly aquired swisher, matsui i think is a long shot, and damon is probablly doubtful as well

  • Matt L

    So does this mean that one of Nady or Swisher is on the way out? Because I find it hard to believe that they keep Damon, Matsui, Gardner, Cabrera, Nady, and Swisher.

    • Joey H

      You act like Gardner and Melky are givens for the roster.

    • christopher

      dsmon in left/DHing, gardner in center, nady in left, swisher DHing/utility player at 1st, and any outfield position or matsui DHing and swisher a super utilityu guy.

      forget about cabrera

  • Joey H

    As much as I have come to like X-Man. If we can get the right package and it will be for the better of the team, I’m willing to say goodbye. Thanks for the solid couple months X.

    • ChrisS

      I wouldn’t call his offensive contribution particularly solid. Outside of his first week, he put up a solid ,725 OPS. The sooner they move him before he swings the bat again, with memories of his April/May/June in people’s head, the better.

      • Joey H

        He did a good job man. You know it, I know it. Let it be.

  • christopher

    HATE HATE HATE ESPN!

    this move only brings them on psr with th r4ed soc and rays? are you kidding me? this is a joke.

    wouldn’t it be great if the yankees signed manny ramirez as well – looks like their only competion willl be the dodgers. imagine tha line-up

    • Ryan S.

      Hey, the PTI guys are with us at least.

  • Ivan

    Wow I just came from work and I hear that Tex is a yankee wow.

    Im shocked and excited at the same time.

    I really don’t know what to say.

    • Mike Pop

      Just be happy man, just be happy

  • That guy

    I think they dump Nady for a healthier bench or a bench and bullpen help. Platoon the outfield with Swish, Damon, Gardner/Melky and Matsui. Works for me.

    • Joey H

      Help the bullpen… why exactly?

      • Mike Pop

        While I dont agree that we should trade him for pen help, Bullpens are so up and down year after year its scary. But that said we didnt even see Alby last year and we only saw a bit of Coke. Plus with Melancon, I dont think we really need more help in that area.

        • That guy

          Im not saying its a must, just exploring all posibilities.

      • That guy

        Why not? The bullpen was a welcome surprise last year and its very possible for them to not perform to the standards of last year. Its not like im saying go sign fuentes or something. All help should be welcomed. Never know whats going to happen.

        • Joey H

          You have a ton of guys who are going to come up. I would address other areas like our bench first. Im with you on the bench but the bullpen is our lowest priority.

    • christopher

      if i am the yankees i try to move matsui first because he is stuck at first with an almost garunteed trip to te DL. Maybe they can package him with IPK (who isnt going to get a shot for a couple years at least an he id already 24) and get something of value in return – maybe a good positional prospect? Randy Winn or a good bullpen arm (good young hard thrower).

      I see nady as having very good value especially for a team on the verge of competing. Couple him with IPK and perhaps the marlins for hermida, the Angels for Figgins etc.

  • gg

    i hope cash can talk manny into a one year deal…say “we got the deeper rotation, we got tex and arod, come to the bronx and take beckett lester and dice k deep all year, you grew up here, you hate the sawx and hey maybe we’ll sit down again next winter”

    im gonna go check out boston.com cant wait to read the reactions

  • Mike

    No way there’s Manny. It’s now down to Pettitte or elsewhere for number 5. I say Mark Melancon slots in as the 8th lockdown.

    My biggest question… What number will he wear? He grew up as a Mattingly fan, but obviously 23 is gone. Cano has 24, will he just slip into, and fill out much better, Giambi’s shoes – 25? I’m pretty sure he was rocking that number for the Angels.

    Also, I know its early, but Rich Harden (given another healthy year) for 09?

    CC, AJ, Wang, Joba, Harden?

    -THE EMPIRE IS NEVER DONE-

    • gg

      if we are thinking that far ahead, what are the thoughts here on matt holliday. guy is gonna demand one hell of a bounty. wonder if boston will try for him or extend bay. bay is probablly a better bargain especially with henry crying he cant compete

  • gg

    did anyone else just see henry’s statement?? The guy wont ante up another 1.5mil a year so he blames the new park and says he cant compete. what nerve, our payroll will still decrease this year. guys a loser.

  • RobC

    “Count on it. The Devil will be back, wearing pinstripes and bearing a bill in his hand.”

    Jim Caple “The Devil Wears Pinstripes”

    gotta love it

  • MrJigginz

    I see John Henry has come out with his predictable statement…”From the moment we arrived in Boston in late 2001, we saw it as a monumental challenge,” team owner John Henry said in an e-mail to The Associated Press. “We sought to reduce the financial gap and succeeded to a degree. Now with a new stadium filled with revenue opportunities, they have leaped away from us again. So we have to be even more careful in deploying our resources.”

    • gg

      i guess nobody told mr. henry were still actually cutting payroll

  • gg

    from peter gammons blog the other day:

    “….obvious that Teixeira likes Mr. Henry’s neighborhood, he just wants the kitchen and heating system redone as part of the deal. ”

    guess he found a better neighborhood peter

    • Joey H

      And those were his last words before he died of a massive stroke when the Yanks’ got Tex.

    • christopher

      csnt wait to read gammon’s next blog — priceless

  • Joey H

    Now having got the 3 top FA’s of this years class, What weakness do they have now? You can make an argument for defense but aside from that, do they have one?

  • Mike

    I’m not so sold on Holliday. I’m for Crawford in left on ’10. There’s no way the Rays (I could be wrong) would pick up that 10 Million contract. Especially with a lot of money locked into Upton, Longoria, Pena…

    Hopefully Jackson will be ready for CF (I’m hoping by some luck, this Spring) and I’m teetering on the precipice with the idea of Ankiel in RF. Yeah, people can point to his AVG, but corner fielders need an arm and power. Both of which he has, and c’mon this guys outfield arm is seriously one of the best in the majors, and I’m not just speculating, I’ve read it all over the place from Baseball America to MLB.com, plus… I have eyes.

    Also, I think possibly Hughes, or one of the younger arms could step it up for the 5 spot. Obviously we’ve got CC, A.J., Wang, and Joba for the long-haul. I’ve just always loved Harden’s stuff. And yes, he is oft-injured, but he’s also 26…

    What do you guys think?

    • Joey H

      First of all, We have NOBODY for the long haul. Injuries are going to happen. Its inevitable. So when they do strike, Guys to the likes of Hughes, Kennedy, Aceves, Coke ect.. will have their chance to impress us.

    • mike

      although its likely not to happen, Crawford could step in for Damon at the same salary, lineup spot and play a better LF.

      Yanks will keep Matsui ( 2 for $25 ) because its nice to have a Japanese star
      and some foreign Yen around when you need to sell 85 boxes and 4.5m tickets, so I see him sticking around until Darvish is posted…..

      Thus, Mr Holliday will be your RF in 2010, Crawford ( hopefully) in left, and Matsui as the DH. This lineup could afford a Melky/Jackson/Gardner CF until one of them grabs the ring

    • K.B.D.

      Crawford’s got a 2010 option that will probably be exercised.

    • christopher

      i live down in the tampa area and i can you that they really were excited about the season for the first time eber. i cant see ownership leting crawford walk as it would cause a majot uprising in the area and turmn alot of fans off. crawford, despite his down year, is still probably the second most popular player next to longoria,

      i would lovecameron as hw qouls give the yanks speed, somwthing that they lack, but i dont see it happening next year unless the rays take a nose dive in 2009

  • Mike

    I’d say weaknesses are CF, and possibly C. I love Po-po and hope he’s back full-time.

    Possibly some bullpen issues. I’m not entirely sold on Veras/Ramirez/Bruney. I do like them all a lot, especially Bruney, but like I said, I think Melancon will bolster this ‘pen.

    • Joey H

      How is it a weakness? We don’t need an all star at every position. And if anything, CF is the place to sacrifice offense for great defense. Something we are in a position to do. Catching is an interesting point, but there is virtually nothing we can go out and to do upgrade there. We have to hope Jorgey will come back and be himself.

      • christopher

        bullpens are the most volatile part of any team – i think the yanks should look to upgrade the pen and i would do so in lieu of signing petitte. fuente would look great in pinstripes and could eventually br msrisno’s successor.

        i would take 2 quality veteran bullpen arms with hughes as the number 5 starter if it was up to me

  • Mike

    Also, a tidbit for the whiners…

    “George Steinbrenner estimated net worth is $1.3 billion USD in 2007 according to the Forbes 400 List in Forbes magazine issued in September 2007″.

    “Forbes ranks Carl Pohlad tied for the 107th richest person in the United States, with a net worth of 2.6 billion dollars”.

    For those of you who don’t know, Carl Pohlad is the principal owner of the Minnesota Twins.

    Also of note, “Bing Crosby saw him play football and recruited him to play for his alma mater Gonzaga University in Washington”.

    • Joey H

      Well all fingers point to Mr. Pohlad to spread the wealth to his organization!

    • christopher

      when he croaks the death tax, which i think is 30 percent is going to kill the yankees

  • Joey H

    I would love to be a fly on the wall to see how Boras Negotiates.

  • Mike

    I’m pretty sure we did just acquire CC for 7 years, A.J. for 5, Joba will be under team control for a few years, and Wang until ’11. I’m not talking about a perfect world here, but the long-haul means a contract, and control. Obviously anyone of these guys could walk out on the street and into a bus, but lets not hope that on anyone.

    I’m just talking here guy.

  • D.B.H.O.F. p.k.a The Don Dodda

    This Tex deal made sure the O’s finish 4th and the Blue Jays 5th.

    “We’re done. We won’t be spending any money.” J.P. the Nose

  • Neil H

    “Right now, the Yanks are rich”

    The bit that worries me about this is the word “now”.

    I guess the Yankees know more about their finances than I ever will, but the cost base is about to include costs that the franchise has essentially never carried in the modern era, and they are making long term commitments like the revenue stream is essentially guaranteed.

    29 other teams seem to be saying that they don’t know enough about revenues to make long term commitments, whereas one team has committed $450m+ in 10 days.

    The sane part of my head is saying nothing could happen to this franchise, but the sane part of my head would have made an unbelievably large bet on the futures of Bear Stearns, Merrill, Lehman etc, etc not that long ago…

    But not to worry, our future is being managed by two brothers who have a long and successful history of managing multi-billion dollar companies in uncertain economic times… don’t they?

  • Jamie Renfield-Miller

    i think the yanks should just forget about Pettitte now. I love him but i think the yanks just should forget about him. What i think they should do instead is trade swisher or matsui for noah lowry or jonathan sanchez. Then, sign either Dunn or Abreu to a 2 year deal.

    • joshua

      that’s a very good point. I would like noah lowry more though.