Jul
24

Rumor of the Day: What the Indians want

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While we generally shy away from posting the endless speculation about potential trade requests, this one is too good to pass up. According to Jon Heyman via Twitter, the Yankees asked the Indians about Cliff Lee, and Cleveland expressed its desire for Phil Hughes or Joba Chamberlain and more. As Chris at iYankees said, a trade involving either of those two would defeat the purpose of acquiring a replacement for Chien-Ming Wang. That Mark Shapiro, he’s quite the joker.

  • Mikebk

    forget lee, go call up zach duke from our AAAA club in the pirates.

    • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

      I like it.

      • Billy Shears

        I would give them Igawa if they pick up his contract.

        • Rocky Road Redemption (formerly RAB poster)

          That’s unfair to the Pirates. We might as well give them something they could use, like a replica world series trophy for any year past 1960.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      He stinks.

      • Mike bk

        who stinks, duke? that 3.38 era would disagree with that assessment.

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          He doesn’t strike anyone else. That doesn’t work so well in AL.

          • Mike bk

            i assume you mean doesnt strike people out. to which the reply is simple, u mean like Buehrle.

            Pitcher A 19 GS 3.38 ERA 133 innings 127 Hits 33BB 70K’s 1.20 WHIP
            Pitcher B 20 GS 3.28 ERA 134.1 innings 122 Hits 26BB 76K’s 1.10 WHIP

            A is Duke
            B is Buehrle

            • pat

              AL/NL yo.

              • Mike bk

                duke vs al this year
                28 In. 24H 2.89 ERA 7BB 14K 1.10 WHIP

                • pat

                  That’s certainly impressive, but it’s 4 games in interleague play 2 of which were at home.

                • Mike bk

                  and there will always be another excuse. so we can keep wasting time about front line starters that will take the farm to get them but then people will say i dont want to give up X or Y, well then the big names arent coming.

      • http://thebronxzoo.wordpress.com iYankees

        LOL, why do people keep talking about Duke? As Mike points out, he would be awful in the AL East.

  • pat

    Does anybody have some trinkets and bead necklaces lying around? That should do the trick.

    • pat

      Oh come on, Native Americans allegedly traded the entire island of Manhattan for trinkets and bead necklaces.
      I hate you all.

  • Simon B.

    That isn’t such a ludicrous offer, I think. People keep writing off Cliff Lee, but he’s been excellent the last two years. He was better than Halladay last year, and not too far behind him so far this season and he’s cheaper and younger.

    • Mike bk

      he is 8 months younger so lets not go crazy there. his 8 mil is cheaper than roy, but i wouldnt give up joba or hughes to get roy either.

    • http://phabfour.blogspot.com/ Double-J

      Lee just came on with his big season last year, and so far, cost notwithstanding, Halladay far and away the better pitcher overall, especially considering their ages.

  • Phil McCracken

    If Wang is done for the year, which probably equates to next year as well, they will need a decent starter. Not of Washburn quality. Something a bit better.

    Obviously the Lee proposal doesn’t make sense, but I’d look at some other avenues, ie Kazmir or Felix Hernandez if we’re looking for a rotation replacement for years to come. Wouldn’t pay big prospects for a guy in his thirties like Halladay.

    • Salty Buggah

      And King Felix is NOT available, they have no reason to trade him yet as he’s so young like a prospect still.

      • Phil McCracken

        There was also no need to Florida to trade Beckett and that happened. Everyone is available if the package is right.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          Well it’s going to be like Joba, Hughes, Jesus, AJax and like ZMac.

        • Salty Buggah

          Alright but since we’d have to give one, if not both, of Hughes and Joba for King Felix, which like the Lee proposal, defeats the purpose.

          • Phil McCracken

            Felix is 23.
            Lee is 30.

            There is nothing similar about trading for these two other than the fact that they both throw a baseball.

            • Salty Buggah

              Ok BUT we lose 2 pitchers to gain one…not helping.

              • Chris

                You don’t know what it would take, so you can’t assume we’d lose two pitchers.

                That being said, the Mariners are currently 4.5GB in the wild card and 5.5GB in the AL West, so they’re not going to trade Felix. Also, unlike the Beckett situation, the Mariners are willing and able to spend some money. There’s no incentive for them to trade him.

                • Salty Buggah

                  I agree. And we dont know what it would take but you have to START with Joba, Hughes, Jesus, and Ajax to get a 23 year old CY Young contender in the AL.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      Washburn of 09 126 IP, 104 H, 38 ER, 30 BB – 2.71 ERA
      He’s pretty good this year, I’d like him.

      • Chris

        He pitches in Safeco with one of the best outfield defenses in baseball. I doubt his numbers would translate at all.

  • GG

    Mike whats a realistic non Joba/Hughes package that would make sense for both teams? Obvs you can’t give up either of them for a year and a half of Lee

    • Mike bk

      with only an 8 mil cost next year there is no reason for cleveland to sell him cheap. in fact they should be looking for just less than what the o’s got for bedard as the contract situations are very similar and lee won a cy young.

      • GG

        I feel that, they kinda need the chips to fall, maybe if someone loses out on Halladay they go in hard for Lee. Maybe LA puts the best package for Lee together after the Phils grab Doc

        • Mike bk

          i think philly is more likely to go hard on doc now that stl got holliday.

  • VO

    What would be the price on Justin Duchscherer? I know he’s been injured but would that take the price down?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Benjamin Kabak

      The problem with Duchscherer is that the Yanks need someone to fill in definitely and not someone who might fill in when/if he’s healthy. If we’re talking about replacing Wang, Duchscherer is not the guy.

      • VO

        100% true, I thought he was already back from injury but he’s not.

    • Mike bk

      it should since he is being paid 3.5 mil and beane just folded the year by dealing holliday so might as well get something for justin.

  • Mike bk

    Ed Price of AOL FanHouse hears that the Jays are considering trading Halladay to the Phillies for Kyle Drabek, Michael Taylor, Jason Donald and Lou Marson. However, no deal appears to be close.

    That would be an excellent haul for Toronto

    • V

      MLBTraderumors says the Jays want Drabek AND Happ. It looks like a matter of ‘who blinks first’?

      • Mike bk

        i know happ is 7-0 and all but he is already 27 in october. i would rather force them to give me drabek, taylor and brown along with marson and donald. i know they have lots of of’s but they can always deal some of their of prospects, or these along with arrebencia for other holes like 3b, but maybe that is part of getting happ cause he could bring a decent return.