Feb
28

Cashman confirms Yankees have made “significant offer” to Cano

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Via Dan Barbarisi: Brian Cashman confirmed the Yankees have already made a “significant offer” to impending free agent Robinson Cano. Hal Steinbrenner confirmed the two sides have had a “conversation or two” about a new deal earlier this month, but Cashman confirmed an actual offer was made. Apparently there is a significant difference in valuation during talks, so I’m guessing this recent offer was well off Scott Boras’ mark. I’m sure there are still many offers and counteroffers to come, but this is notable because the team is breaking it’s “no extensions” policy (which they’ve already done once for Robbie, of course).

Categories : Asides, Hot Stove League
  • Robinson Tilapia

    I’ll throw in an extra ten bucks to get this done.

    • Who hates bunts more? Axisa or Earl Weaver?

      That should close the “significant gap”

    • jsbrendog

      I got 5 on it

      (has horrible college flashback)

      (buys pint of ice cream)

      (naps)

      • Robinson Tilapia

        messing with that Indo weed?

    • Gonzo

      I’ll keep my cash. I need it more than the Steins!

  • Eddard: Back and better than never

    No one draws a line in the sand anymore. First it was, We won’t negotiate with terrorists then it was we won’t do extensions mid year and now they’re making significant offers. Cano is much better off waiting until FA and that’s what Boras will advise. We cannot afford another bloated 7-10 year deal to a player over 30.

    • jjyank

      You’re funny.

    • jsbrendog

      purple monkey dishwasher spamlogs

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Actually, we probably could afford it. I’m raising my contribution to $20. Let’s get this done.

  • MartinRanger

    I appreciate the Yankees making an effort regardless. I would be stunned if they got anything done, and surprised if Cano comes back next year in any case, but there was no reason to maintain this ridiculous ban on extensions.

    And Eddard…what?

    • RetroRob

      The Yankees know there’s a chance they might lose Cano, which is why they’re being vocal about this.

      I said it before. The Yankees can not wait until January 2014 to see if they can sign Cano after Boras goes on his dog-and-pony show. They will need to start making plans post Cano soon as this season is over. Unless they can come to an agreement prior to hitting free agency, or shortly thereafter, Cano will be gone because the Yankees will move on and focus their resources elsewhere.

      • CS Yankee

        This…all of this!

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I disagree. I don’t think he’s necessarily a goner at all if he hits free agency. I think his price goes up, but that’s about it.

        • RetroRob

          You. Me. Out front. Bring the boxing gloves!

          I’m a little over the top every time I bring up this topic, but I don’t think fans should assume the Yankees will sign Cano. Dodger dollars are out there. The Yankees will have pretty much an entire roster to fill next off-season beyond a few players. They simply can not afford the luxury of sitting back and waiting to see if Cano is coming back. It will paralyze their entire off season at a point where they can’t afford to do that.

  • jjyank

    If anything, I appreciate the willingness to explore the idea of an extension. Even if nothing comes of it. I think most of us can agree that if the budget is going to remain in place, the Yanks are gonna have to take a shot on a few extensions if they want to remain competitive. At least as long as guys like A-Rod and Tex are raking in a big portion of the budget.

  • Murderers’ Row Boat

    How about we launch a QuickStarter fund to help the Yankees buyout A-Rod’s contract. $10 from every Yankees fan should do it.

    • CS Yankee

      So…pay 130M$ to the NYY, who (BTW) are worth about 5 billion, so they can pay “Arod off” and still have the cap restrictions in place.

      Hmm???, no thanks.

      I’ll spend my $10 on a beer at the game so some good would actually come out of the coin.

      • Gonzo

        Yeah, they can afford his buyout (if they want), and I rather buy a beer.

      • Jim Is Bored

        I’ll pay 10$ on a good six pack and watch from the comfort of my couch on a big screen TV.

        But mostly because I’m not in NY.

    • Havok9120

      Oh ho. A Kickstarter reference on RAB.

      The last time I tried that everyone just kinda looked at me in confusion.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    I hope these proclamations that the Yankees are making “significant” offers to Cano aren’t meant as a way for the Yankees to save face when he walks after the season.

    • jsbrendog

      ooo I didn’t think of it from that angle…..there’s the proverbial turd in the punchbowl….i agree with you.

    • Steve (different one)

      Eventually the numbers will leak and we will know. If Sherman is anywhere close to the truth (I believe he “reported” something like $171M/7, phrased like the Yankees are reportedly willing to pay…), then the Yankes would appear to be dead serious.

      But, who knows if that number is real or not…

    • RetroRob

      So you’re in the “sign him at any cost” camp?

      There’s a middle ground. They want to sign him (which they do), and they’re willing to pay a lot, but they may have no interest in paying a 9-year/$225M contract that perhaps could happen with the Dodgers. Up the pressure, see if he will negotiate, but if he doesn’t, then the Yankees should let him walk if the contract demands get insane. They will. Try to sign him now or start preparing for post-Cano.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I probably am much closer to that camp than most. I’ll admit it.

        • TomH

          I would go so far as “sign him at almost any cost.” Giving him an ARod or Pujols type contract would be unjustifiable. He’s never been that kind of hitter. But he’s very good, and the symbolism of allowing him to walk would generate bad karma.

          • Robinson Tilapia

            The non-emotional part of my brain agrees.

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        I don’t think I could go more than 7 years though the length bothers me more than the AAV.

        The Yankees could probably have a $300 million payroll and still turn a tidy profit so to quote Mike, I’d rather see the money spent to better the team than go into George’s spawn’s pockets.

        • Havok9120

          And that idea is perfectly fine (except that what numbers we have suggest that they’d be operating at a significant annual loss with a 300 million dollar payroll), but not the situation with which we’re actually dealing.

          At some point we’re gonna need to stop combining our hatred of 189 with what kind of deals we want to team to make. Our hypotheticals need to at least TRY and work within the same bounds within which the team is actually operating.

          • I am not the droids you’re looking for…

            What numbers do we have suggesting a significant loss with a $300mm payroll?

    • trr

      Boras will have no qualms about divulging details of the Yanks offer(s), when it suits him

  • Adam

    5 years for $140 Mil. If Boras doesnt like, see ya Cano.

    • DC

      $28M AAV…lol

      • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

        I’d sign up for that. Better than lower AAV with 3-5 more years.

      • Adam

        Funny? My point was less years.

  • HW7

    Cano will re-sign at fair market value, but only if he can grow a goatee.

    Who blinks first?

    • Deathstroke Heathcott

      He can grow a damn Hitler-stache if he’ll come in at a reasonable price for all I care.

  • Bill

    The Yankees are putting on a good show stating that they made Cano an offer.

    I bet they fall short on ant bid and they will use the excuse that Cano did not want to be a yankee for the rest of his career.

    Getting under the 189 million is more important than signing CAno.

    Lets hope they offer him and granderson arbirtration so they could get draft picks for them.

    You figure joba and hughes are also gone from next year payroll

    There will be alot of rookies or minor leagure free agents playing for the yankees next year.

    The payroll not just going be under $ 189 million but more likely around $ 150 with them not offering contracts to youklis, kuroda and they are hoping Pettite and Riveria also retire to save them money on next year payroll.

    • YANKEEZOMBIE

      -what position does Riveria play?? never heard of him being on the roster -dumbass!

    • Need Pitching & Hitting (but mostly hitting)

      Exactly a 0% chance they have a $150M payroll next season.

  • pat

    Trade him at the deadline if it’s clear he’s not going to resign. This team is not very likely to win a WS (which I’m OK with). Might as well max his value while you still can.

    • RetroRob

      Probably won’t get much for a few month rental. Might as well take the draft pick and the important draft $$ that come with it.

      • Deathstroke Heathcott

        And the higher chance of making a postseason run with him on the team for the rest of that year.

    • jjyank

      The Yankees are not trading Cano midseason. Won’t happen.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        Some fans already have his bags packed and in another uniform. Ppl don’t understand the Yankees don’t operate like that.

        • jjyank

          Yeah, I mean when was the last time the Yankees traded a star player away at the deadline? It’s just not going to happen.

          • The Big City of Dreams

            They rarely trade star players period. Hopefully they get something done with Cano. I’d like to see him remain a Yankee.

            • jjyank

              Likewise.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              +80,000,000

          • RetroRob

            That’s a good question. When was the last time the Yankees traded an in-prime player (not to mention a home-grown one) mid season? Actually, ever. Hmmm???

            Bobby Murcer?

  • Robinson Tilapia

    The Yankees did something. BWAHAHAHAHA!

    Love,
    The Toronto Blue Jays Radio Team

  • Tom

    I have no problem with Yankees mentioning this as part of it is managing the PR aspect of it if Cano should walk.

    But I think it is a huge mistake to continue to negotiate if there really is a substantial gap. If the Yankees don’t have a good chance of closing the gap prior to FA, the only thing they are doing is establishing a floor for Boras when Cano hits the market.

    I get the sense that Boras is simply trying to figure out what the fallback # is when Cano hits FA. He’ll then tack on a few years and some money and start shopping it around.

    • YANKEEZOMBIE

      gee Tom, you’re so smart, you should be representing Cano!

      -i bet you’re some working stiff that hangs around in his pathetic neighborhood bar, thinking you’re the smartest beer-drinker in the room – and likes to make everybody else know it -maybe the fellow drunkards buy your BS – but i don’t

      • jjyank

        You can disagree with him without being a total douche, ya know.

        • YANKEEZOMBIE

          -thanks for setting me straight jj -you and me are both total douches, so i feel a certain kinship with you

          • Havok9120

            *grabs the popcorn and bourbon*

            • Robinson Tilapia

              This should be fun…..until about 7:00 PM or so.

              I’m off to the gym. I expect this guy exterminated by then.

          • jjyank

            O:S

            • Steve

              I’ve seen you type this before. What does it mean? I gather you can block or ignore people but I don’t get how

              • Pat D

                Origin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.....hutdown.22

                RAB Application:
                Operation: Shutdown, or O:S, is the process by which you completely and totally ignore comments from a particular poster. It’s a way of both keeping your own sanity so you’re not constantly arguing with an idiot, and not giving that person any ammunition with which to keep posting stupid shit.

                • Steve

                  Oh, ok. So you can’t literally stop yourself from seeing them, you just ignore them? I was going to say, that would be very convenient.

    • JU

      Decide how far you are willing to go, make that offer before ST ends. If he turns it down, trade him for a buttload of young talent (while teams will still be able to collect Comp Draft Picks if/when Cano leaves) :o

  • YANKEEZOMBIE

    -if the genius Yankee “braintrust” hands Cano some outlandish contract -they will kill his Yankee career – because he will never live up to it (i’m a Cano fan) Steibrenner & Cashman need instructions on how to wipe their own asses, the Yankees are doomed!!

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I don’t watch “The Walking Dead” or play video games anymore. What do we do with a Yankeezombie?

      • jjyank

        Standard zombie disposal calls for a bullet (or crossbow bolt) between the eyes. If we don’t have the stomach for that, we can at least lock him in a barn or something.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Can’t we just trade him to the White Sox?

        • Dalek Jeter

          Those are the 3 most boring ways to deal with a zombie…couldn’t we make him into a “michonne-bot,” by which of course I mean curb-stomp him and cut off his arms?

          • jjyank

            Sign me up.

      • YANKEEZOMBIE

        -YankeeZombies are all of the suckers who walk around in their Yankee shirts & caps mindlessly following & pulling for a team that has delivered squat since 1978 (2009 was a fluke -they lucked out against a lousy Phillies team that backed into the WS)

        i, too was a “YZ” until i realized what an incompetent putz Brian Cashman has always been -these days i only look at the standings & playoff results, NOT their propaganda……

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Too much anger. Already jumping the shark.

          NEEEEEXT!

        • DC

          So you decided to breathe in all the negative propaganda and take it as gospel.

        • Tom

          I don’t want to come across as a smart guy at the local neighborhood bar….

          But shouldn’t your handle be “EX-YANKEEZOMBIE”?

          • Dalek Jeter

            Oh look at you w/ all your smarts and stuff, do you rub your middle school diploma in EVERYONE’S face?!

        • Steve

          1978? The four in the 90s don’t count either?

          • Robinson Tilapia

            They occurred in that middle period between when he was one of the living and one of the un-dead. Can we really hold that against him?

  • Heismanziel

    Cano might not want to stay if the Yankees are going to stay with the 189 plan. This budget is literally happening at the worst possible time. We have a bunch of aging players that we are committed to for years and then we have robbie (30) whom has a few more seasons of being in his ” Prime”. Why would robbie stay here if he knows the dodgers could match the Yankees if not offer more as well as be able to put more pieces around him? I understand the 189… but when you have a superstar like cano, you have to do whatever it takes to retain him and put pieces around him to win a championship. With all the massive contracts we still have for years.. plus giving cano a major deal, all the while keeping a budget, and expecting to compete for championships is pretty wishful thinking to put it mildly.

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      Didn’t you read Wally Matthews column?

      The budget has been scrapped.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Tea leaf reading is something to behold.

    It’s funny how my tea leaves actually think Robbie wants to remain a Yankee and is simply looking to negotiate the best possible contract within those boundaries, and that there’s no possible way he or Boras could admit to that so we are going to go through a few months of this before he signs an extension neither Yankee fans or those who think he could have held out for even more will be happy with.

    Time will tell who’s right.

    • jjyank

      I hope you are.

    • YANKEEZOMBIE

      -agreed -but i don’t blame Cano (or Boras) -Cano’s shelf-life is limited – he can’t play forever, the Yankees have more money than God himself, no matter what Hal says -they can afford Cano

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Fuck. Now I slightly agree with you.

        #ZOMBIETILAPIA

      • Jim Is Bored

        -you like dashes -i dont know why -they dont add any formatting – but to each their own.

  • Ace

    Zero = the number of Yankees not named Derek Jeter or Mariano Rivera that the Yankees should sign to 5+ year contracts after they turn 30+ years of age.

    Don’t sign Cano for 8 years to get 3 really good years.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      It’s becoming clear to me that there’s a collective case of PTSD amongst some Yankee fans being caused by Alex Rodriguez’s contract. Not blaming anyone for it, but it’s pretty crystal clear it’s happening.

      • Dalek Jeter

        I think it’s justified though.

        • Nice Guy Eddie

          Its understandable, but robbie is an all time great player that’s been in this organization his entire career; and the whole thing with Alex’s contract wouldn’t be nearly as substantial of a problem if it weren’t for this stupid and unnecessary salary cap the team has imposed on itself

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Oh, it’s a scary fucking contract. That’s for sure. It’s still case by case, though.

        • The Big City of Dreams

          It is but some fans are taking it too far. I’m already hearing Cano is greedy, he’s a bum, he’s lazy, let him walk because he’s been paid enough already, etc.

    • WhittakerWalt

      I strongly suspect we’d get at least 5 good years, though. His swing is that good.
      But who knows? He could sign for 8 years and pull a Mo Vaughn after year three.

  • voiceofirrationalrationale

    Dont pussy-foot with these jack-holes, it’s either doable or not. And if it isn’t, plan B immediately. “Sizeable valuation difference” ! No shit, you waited too long, and it’s mother-fucking scott boras

  • All Praise Be To Mo

    Make their best offer, if they pass then trade him. You can get more for him prior to the season starting since he’ll be worth a 1st rounder as well to the team getting him if he’s with them for the whole year.

  • Ray Gonzalez

    I really hope Yanks can sign Cano! What I hope the yanks don’t do is give Cano an 10 year 225 million contract.I Think an 6 year 150 million should be a fair contract. With Boras as Cano’s agents gives me a bad feeling. I believe if yanks will have to break the bank to sign Cano it might be better to trade him before the season starts this way yanks can get more for him than if they tried trading at the trading deadline. What do you think?

    • The Big City of Dreams

      The Yankees aren’t going to trade him

      No way he takes 150/6

      To get him they might have to go 180/8

      He won’t get 225/10 from anyone

  • ken

    if cano signs else where it would probley be with either dodgers,tigers,washington,cards. The draft pick would be at the bottom. a few picks where the yankees would pick. not much there. might get more in a trade.

    • Nice Guy Eddie

      It would be in the compensation round

      • ken

        not much talent there. get a better player by trade.

        • All Praise Be To Mo

          Not just about the player you might be able to pick, with the new draft rules it’s about the extra $ you can spend for your entire draft as well.

  • ton lon ton

    forget can no bring back the blockhead knoblach

    • ken

      what’s Willie Randolph doing?

  • V

    Who gives a shit? Let him walk.

    • dkidd

      and….scene!