New numbers for new players

Derek Jeter has more power to right than Albert Pujols
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There’s very little official business left for the Yankees to take care of this offseason. They still have to renew the contracts of their 19 pre-arbitration players, but that should happen in the next week or so. Other than that, it’s just show up for Spring Training, assign numbers to the new guys, and get to work.

During his introductory press conference, we learned that Curtis Granderson would be wearing No. 14, giving some credibility to a number that had been used exclusively for spare parts in recent years. The Yankees did make three other significant additions this offseason, though the numbers Nick Johnson, Javy Vazquez, and Randy Winn will sport in 2010 still aren’t listed on the official site.

However, as astute commenter Mo’s Savant noticed, their numbers are listed in MLB.com’s store, available for customizing a shirt or jersey. Of course these aren’t official, but if you’re like me and find a weird satisfaction in these kind of things, it’s worth mentioning. Let’s run through them one by one.

Nick Johnson: No. 26

NJ wore No. 36 during his first stint in the Bronx, but apparently Edwar Ramirez has too firm a grip on it. I suppose Nick could buy it from him in Spring Training, but I’m guessing it’s not that important to him; he wore No. 24 with the Expos/Nationals , and No. 20 with the Marlins. Jose Molina, who will always hold a special place in my heart as the best backup catcher of the Jorge Posada era, was the last to wear No. 26, and before him it belonged to other backup backstops like Wil Nieves, Koyie Hill, and Sal Fasano. The last significant player to wear the number was Orlando Hernandez during the Dynasty Years.

Photo Credit: Linda Kaye, AP

Javy Vazquez: No. 31

A former Yankee like Johnson, Vazquez wore No. 33 during his one season in pinstripes, and did the same with the White Sox and Braves. During the Expo and Diamondback years, Javy rocked No. 23. Nick Swisher is the proud owner of No. 33, and he went out of his way to get the number from Brian Bruney last year, so I don’t think he’s giving it up anytime soon. So Javy is stuck with No. 31, previously worn by Mike Dunn and Ian Kennedy, and Edwar Ramirez and Aaron Small before them. Dave Winfield was the last big time Yankee to wear the number, though Tim Raines also had it during the late-90’s and Steve Karsay during the early-00’s.

Photo Credit: Matthew Gunby, AP

Randy Winn: No. 22

During his time with the Devil Rays, Mariners, and Giants, Winn had always worn No. 2. Obviously, he’s not getting that as a Yankee. Instead, he doubles up on it and takes No. 22 from the departed Xavier Nady. That number has a prominent place in recent Yankee lore, having been worn by Roger Clemens, Robbie Cano, and Jimmy Key with a few LaTroy Hawkinses and Jon Lieberses mixed in. Jorge Posada even wore it for part of the 1997 season, his first full year in the majors as Joe Girardi‘s backup.

Photo Credit: Chris O’Meara, AP

Unfortunately, we still don’t have numbers for the likes of Boone Logan or Greg Golson, or any of the prospects added to 40-man after the season either. We’re just going to have to wait for camp to open and see what’s on their backs. I’m happy I can finally buy my Nick Johnson shirt, but damn, did they really raise the price of customizable shirts to $36.99? It’s a recession, you know.

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Derek Jeter has more power to right than Albert Pujols
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  • Matt :: Sec 105

    the tshirts are at 37 bucks? daaaaaaaam.

  • misterd

    Given that April 1st lies at the end of Spring Training, I’d love to see a conference in which it is announced Winn bought #2 from Jeter.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      In all seriousness, what would it take to buy #2 from Jeter at this point? $100M? More?

      Even if he wanted to, Randy Winn couldn’t possibly afford to buy Jeter’s number from him.

      • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

        Let’s think about it. How much would Jeter sell it for? 1M? 5M? Maybe not. Would he sell it for 25M? 50M?

        Would he really turn down 50M?

        He’s got a price, I wonder what it is.

        • andrew

          But he doesn’t really need the money. Not that i’m saying he would turn down the $50M, but maybe he would jut never sell

          • Steve H

            He doesn’t really need the money in his next contract either though, it doesn’t mean he’s taking a hometown discount, just the opposite, he’ll be getting a hometown premium.

          • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

            Thats the question though. If you say he would “just never sell”, then that means he’d turn down $50M. Would he really? Would he REALLY?

            He has a limit. If someone offered him 100B, he’d presumably sell it. I’m interested in what the real limit is. 25? 50? 250?

            • radnom

              Reminds me of a joke.

              “Guy: Would you have sex with me if I gave you one hundred million dollars?”

              Girl: Yes!

              Guy: How about a hundred dollars?

              Girl: Um, no….what do I look like, some kind of prostitute?

              Guy: Well I thought we already determined that, and now we’re just negotiating on price.”

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                Prostitute: What do you want?
                Man: I’ll give you 50 dollars to have sex–the way I like it.
                Prostitute: Naw, that’s not enough money.
                Man: I’ll give you 100 dollars to have sex–the way I like it.
                Prostitute: Nope, you might be some crazy person. Uhn-unh.
                Man: I’ll give you 1,000 dollars to have sex–the way I like it.
                Prostitute: (thinks) No, that’s still not enough money. Too risky.
                Man: Fine, I’ll give you 10,000 dollars to have sex–the way I like it.
                Prostitute: Sure, let’s do it.

                (ten minutes later, mid-coitus)

                Prostitute: Say, can I ask you a question?
                Man: Sure.
                Prostitute: What exactly is sex “the way you like it”?
                Man: On credit, baby… on credit.

            • KeithK

              Let’s say a player actualy offered Jeter $50M for #2. Maybe Randy Winn turns out to be Bill Gates long lost son so Bill puts up the money. Do you think the Yankees would actually allow the transaction? At the end of the day the number isn’t Derek Jeter’s property. It’s the Yankees’.

      • Thomas

        I think the only way Winn can get 2 away from Jeter is to play it off as if he always had number two.

        Winn: “Hey, Derek. I hear you want to wear number 2. Unfortunately, it is my number and it isn’t for sale. Sorry”
        Jeter: “What hell are you talking about? I’ve always been number . . . ”
        Winn (interrupting): “It’s OK. You just have to go to the equipment manager and pick another number. It’s no big deal. Talk to you later.”

  • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

    I wish someone would take 21.

    • bexarama

      I wish Javy would take 21

      • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

        I wish Jeter would take 21, Mariano would take 2, ARod would take 42, Swisher to 13, Hoffmann to 33 and Gardner to 3.

        • bexarama

          :: head explodes ::

        • Bo

          Gardner takes 3. In Scranton?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        I wish Randy Winn woulda taken #21, and Brett Gardner would take #18, thus angering both irrational idiot fans of both Damon and Paulie, and freeing up Gardner’s #11 for retirement for Lefty Gomez.

        • bexarama

          +11

          Though I guess I can’t talk because I got all irrationally upset when players were wearing #46 from 2004-2006. However, I didn’t boo them.

  • JobaWockeeZ

    Wait it’s 37 bucks for those Navy blue T-Shirts?

    • Stryker

      if you want it customized, yes.

      otherwise, the normal player t-shirts aren’t anywhere near that much. you can grab ‘em for less than 20 at mo’s or any other sporting goods store.

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “Brendog” Peck

        what does customizing entail? how much more customizable does it get than with the payer’s name and number on the back and the interlocking ny on the front?

  • Souter Fell

    man, my Robbie Cano rookie 22 jersey certainly makes the rounds.

    • Kiko Jones

      Got one, too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

    Randy Winn should offer Jeter a steak dinner for #2.

    • Chip

      No way, everybody buys a guy a Rolex for their number. I’m sure Jeter would be willing to give it up for that

      • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

        How about trading it for 25 alibis during the season?

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Randy Winn should offer Jeter a steak dinner for #2.

      Nah, not enough. Maybe a lovely seafood dinner would do the trick, but Randy has to promise to call Derek afterwards.

      • Steve H

        Surf and turf get it done?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Only if he puts out.

      • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

        In Phildelphia, it’s worth 50 bucks.

        /Bo Diddly’d

        • pete

          trading places reference, i likes

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          John Henry: (startled) It was a dream. I dreamt the whole thing. It was just a bad dream.
          Larry Lucchino: Good morning, sir. Merry Christmas.
          Henry: Larry, I’ve had the most absurd nightmare. We couldn’t afford Mark Teixeira and the Yankees won the World Series. We lost in the playoffs, Papelbon blew a save in horrendous fashion, and our team got old and shitty.

          And it was all because of this terrible, awful Negro named Sabathia.

          • Chip

            Larry Lucchino: John, I really did but I have a plan.

            Henry: What?

            Lucchino: We sign our own Negros to combat theirs. There’s this old guy who can still play centerfield who nobody else really wants to sign and the Mariners have this really horrible third baseman who used to be kinda good but sucks now. I figure we can get him if we give up something useful.

            Henry: Do it

          • http://twitter.com/tafkasic the artist formerly known as (sic)

            Ah, this comment is my favorite in recent memory.

            +ovr 9000

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              I think Bud Selig would be Jamie Lee Curtis in this version of the movie.

  • http://twitter.com/JamalG_BB Jamal G.

    How comfortable would you guys be with Jesus Montero rocking #6; or do you think that it should be retired and a place in Monument Park be reserved for Mr. T?

    • pat

      Give it to the Jesus.

      • Steve H

        Too bad we’re giving The Jesus to the Royals for De Jesus.

        http://riveraveblues.com/off-topic/#comment-770296

        • JGS

          ::reads that post::

          ::head explodes::

        • pat

          Oh Lord.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          THE GOGGLES… THEY DO NOTHING!!!!

    • The Three Amigos

      Should not be retired… and I would be happy to see Jesus wear 6.

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

      Give it to Jesus, and then retire it for Torre after Jesus’ Yankee career is over (hopefully retiring it for Da Jesus as well).

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Great numbers for Teh Jesus:
      00
      6
      80
      777 or 888 (depending on whom you ask)

      • Chip

        I’d love to see him rock 00.

        • Steve H

          Agreed. How do you say “Chief” in spansih?

          • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

            Chiefo

            • http://www.facebook.com/adorador Ray Fuego

              its Jefe

              • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                Jefe: I have put many beautiful piñatas in the storeroom, each of them filled with little suprises.
                El Guapo: Many piñatas?
                Jefe: Oh yes, many!
                El Guapo: Would you say I have a plethora of piñatas?
                Jefe: A what?
                El Guapo: A *plethora*.
                Jefe: Oh yes, you have a plethora.
                El Guapo: Jefe, what is a plethora?
                Jefe: Why, El Guapo?
                El Guapo: Well, you told me I have a plethora. And I just would like to know if you know what a plethora is. I would not like to think that a person would tell someone he has a plethora, and then find out that that person has *no idea* what it means to have a plethora.

      • Sweet Dick Willie

        Think of the exploding heads if Jesus wears 666.

        • Thomas

          Well, Montero is a beast.

      • JGS

        why 00?

        all the great ones have single digits–give him just plain 0

        • Steve H

          0 looks terrible compared to 00.

        • Chip

          Double zero would look cooler through the catching gear and is obviously much more badass

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Robert Parish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orlando Woolridge

          • JGS

            Color me convinced

    • bexarama

      I’d be fine with him wearing it, but I think he wears #35.

      • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

        That’s what he wore for Tampa last year, so it makes sense. But it’s not nearly as fun.

        • Chip

          I wonder if the front office has any say in this. I mean if you have an absolute stud coming up, wouldn’t you want him wearing an iconic number just in case he hits the upper levels of his production? I really don’t think Jeter’s number 2 would be such a special thing if he were wearing 36 or something. I would think that Montero would at least be encouraged to don the number 6 or something by the organization

    • pete

      I’d prefer 3:16 or Z or something like that

      • Chip

        No number, just a blank space. Jesus loves all numbers equally and therefore shouldn’t be restricted to using just one

    • Gor

      Montero wears 35 in Scranton, doesn’t he? I think he would honor Mussina’s old number.

    • Bo

      You’re assuming he would want 6.

  • ADam

    Did not think Edwar Ramirez had any clout whatsoever to keep any sort of number?? He should be happy he is still on the 40 man wasting a spot

    • A.D.

      My guess is NJ just doesn’t care that much.

      • ADam

        Probably so.. just funny to think about that conversation with Edwar

  • Bryan V

    At the start of this article it’s stated that 19 players, who are pre-arbitration eligible, have yet to have contracts for 2010. I count 20 without contracts, and checked that with Cot’s.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

    http://riveraveblues.com/2010/.....ent-770522

    With these updates, we’re now left with:

    Players on 40-man roster without a number:
    Jamie Hoffmann
    Boone Logan
    Greg Golson
    Romulo Sanchez
    Kevin Russo
    Ivan Nova
    Eduardo Nunez
    Reegie Corona
    Hector Noesi

    STNRIs without a number:
    Marcus Thames
    Colin Curtis
    Reid Gorecki
    Jon Weber
    David Winfree
    Kyle Higashioka
    Jesús Montero
    P. J. Pilittere
    Mike Rivera
    Austin Romine
    Wilkins Árias
    Jeremy Bleich
    Grant Duff
    Jason Hirsh
    Kei Igawa
    Zach McAllister
    Royce Ring
    Amaury Sanit
    Zack Segovia
    Kevin Whelan

    Remaining Numbers below 80:
    6 12 17 18 21 27 35 38 40 47 48 51 53 55 60 61 66 67 68 69 71 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80

    —————-

    My picks:

    Jesus Montero – 77 (the number of the god)
    Marcus Thames – 66 (double up on #33)
    Jamie Hoffmann – 17
    Greg Golson – 18 (take THAT!)
    Jeremy Bleich – 35 (tell me that’s not a nice move)
    Zach McAllister – 21 (maybe he’s True Yankee™ enough to quiet the idiots)
    Austin Romine – 12 (for some reason, I see a low number on his back)
    Kei Igawa – 99 (he needs more bad-ass-ness)
    Romulo Sanchez – 60 (a nice, big, round number)
    Boone Logan – 75 (a kick-ass number)
    Royce Ring – 53 (why not?)
    Amaury Sanit – 47
    Kevin Whelan – 27 (this feels like a UTI’s number)
    Jason Hirsh – 69 (just to add to the comedy)

    • Chip

      Agreed, but I sure hope Montero doesn’t take 77 and instead gets 6, 12, 00 or 18.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Tell me #77 wouldn’t look pimptastic, though. It would.

        • Chip

          Turn the second 7 backwards, that’d throw them off

          • http://www.facebook.com/adorador Ray Fuego

            I say he takes 00 and becomes the real agent zero

    • http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bring-Melvin-To-America/193013541601?ref=sgm Andy In Sunny Daytona

      It’s too bad The Fat Sanchezes are together anymore, because then they could wear #69 and #96.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        I’m curious to see how Boston handles their answer to the Fat Sanchezes, the Thin Ramon Ramirezes. Do they just give them both the same number? That’s what I’d do. Regulations be damned.

        • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “Brendog” Peck

          if they look alike they could be the same player. just dress one one night and the other the next. the hidden 26th man. then when ramon ramirez finishes the season with 162 games, 200 ip he can go straight to the hall of fame

          • Chip

            Qualifications for the HOF: Be a member of the Red Sox, be FEARED

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              If only Mo Vaughn would have lasted a little bit longer in Beantown. He’d be the greatest first baseman EVAH.

              • JGS

                How the hell did he win the MVP over Belle in 1995?

                Vaughn: .300/.388/.575/.963 (144+), 98 R, 39 HR, 126 RBI, 11 SB (seriously???), 68 BB, 150 K

                Belle: .317/.401/.690/1.091 (177+), 121 R, 50 HR (in 143 games), 126 RBI, 5 SB, 73 BB, 80 K

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  Albert Belle gave me a mean look once. Therefore, I’m not really an “Albert” kind of guy.

                  Sincerely,
                  Corky Simpson

                • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “Brendog” Peck

                  tom hadricourt did vote for belle for rookie of the year that yr though so he’s got that going for him

                • bexarama

                  Mo Vaughn winning was so weird. It’s not like he had a BAD year or anything, but he was like the fourth-best 1B in the league. Bizarre.

            • bexarama

              A Red Sox fan assured me once that Jason Varitek is a first-ballot Hall of Famer… please someone tell me this isn’t true (cries)

              • Chip

                You need smarter friends

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            if they look alike they could be the same player.

            Ramon S. Ramirez, the Dominican former Yankee farmhand who was with the team in 2009:
            http://boston.majorleaguebaseb.....rs/144.jpg

            Ramon A. Ramirez, the Venezuelan import this winter:
            http://assets.sbnation.com/ass.....amirez.jpg

            Meh, not really. To an ignorant Boston white guy, though, perhaps.

            • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “Brendog” Peck

              nah wou;dnt work. then again this is bud selig

  • Tony

    I think they should un-retire all the #’s. Create a ring of honor & let players wear the#’s they want. You want to honor Ruth – then Let someone with some pop make the # proud. Think your clutch like Jackson – try 44.

    • Kiko Jones

      Weak-hitting infielders and pitchers across baseball wearing no.44 pisses me off. It was Hammerin’ Hank’s and Reggie’s number, for Pete’s sake!

      • Tony

        Now we both know that they are very carefull giving out #’s. Now if you had a young Ryan Howard – why couldnt he wear 44?

  • Kiko Jones

    The Moose and Sweet Lou wore 14 but the digits got no love for the longest…I guess if Granderson didn’t get 28, it’s Joe G’s, huh?

    Don’t think anyone will really bitch about no.18 being given out, at least not even close to how much people harassed Hawkins over it. Btw, kudos to O’Neill for not stepping up to defend Hawkins from the abuse. When told of how fans reacted to Hawkins getting his old number, he muttered something about being flattered by the fan reaction and not a peep about the bullshit Hawkins had to deal with. Keep it classy, O’Neill.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Btw, kudos to O’Neill for not stepping up to defend Hawkins from the abuse. When told of how fans reacted to Hawkins getting his old number, he muttered something about being flattered by the fan reaction and not a peep about the bullshit Hawkins had to deal with. Keep it classy, O’Neill.

      If I built a time machine, the second thing I’d do is go back to 1936 and kill Hitler.

      The first thing I’d do is go back to 1993 and boo the ever-living fuck out of Paul O’Neill for having the gall and audacity to wear Spud Chandler’s #21.

      Spud Chandler won rings. Spud Chandler was an MVP. Spud Chandler has the highest career winning percentage of any pitcher with at least 100 wins in baseball HISTORY. Spud Chandler had a career ERA of 2.84, still a Yankee record.

      Paul O’Neill is just some whiny bitch scrub .259 hitter from podunk Cincinnati who’s never amounted to shit. How dare he think he’s worthy to wear Spud’s #21? HOW DARE HE!!!!!!

      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templeton_Peck Templeton “Brendog” Peck

        spud chandler’s corpse approves this comment

      • Kiko Jones

        I hope you realize I was being sarcastic and actually berating O’Neill for not stepping up to defend Hawkins from the irrational fans.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Yes, I realize it.