Jul
31

Sunday’s Trade Deadline Open Thread

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The non-waiver trade deadline is 4pm ET today, though we’ll occasionally see news of a deal leak out a little later than that. I remember word of the Kerry Wood trade broke at like, 4:15pm ET last year. Do the Yankees have a starting pitcher up their sleeve? We’ll find out soon enough. Let’s keep track of the latest here throughout the day, with the most recent news up top…

  • The Yankees aren’t going after any big-name arms at the moment, if anything they’ll make small, incremental upgrades. (Morosi)
  • Nevermind, Wandy’s not going to Cleveland. The Yankees wanted the Astros to pick up half the money on the lefties deal, but Houston said no and talks about the left-hander are dead. (Justice, Heyman & Jayson Stark)
  • The Yankees are not deep in any talks, and get this, it sounds like Wandy is heading to the Indians for two minor leaguers. How about that. (Olney & Richard Justice)
  • Bell Mike Adams is apparently headed to the Rangers. It was unlikely the Yankees would get him anyway, but at least now we don’t have to worry about it. (Ken Rosenthal)

  • The Yankees were thinking of acquiring Bell and spinning him elsewhere, but that’s not going to happen. Just isn’t enough time. (Heyman)
  • Wandy would have to fall into the Yankees laps for a trade to happen, meaning the Astros would have to eat a big chunk of the money left on his deal. There’s no indication they’ll do so, and in fact the Yankees didn’t even bother scouting his last start. The two sides did talk this morning though. (Jack Curry, Buster Olney, Jon Paul Morosi, Sherman & Carig)
  • A team official said the Yankees are “staying tuned” to the market as they try to find pitching before the deadline. (Marc Carig)
  • The Yankees are making a push for Wandy Rodriguez. Houston reportedly wants impact prospects for the lefty, but I can’t imagine they’ll get them with that ugly contract ($10M in 2012, $13M in 2013, $13M player option for 2014). There’s no indication they’re near a deal. (Ken Rosenthal & Sherman)
  • The Yankees are in on Heath Bell, but neither side is optimistic a deal can be reached. Bell won’t come cheap, plus his strikeouts are way down and lefties handle him well. There’s no harm in adding a reliever, but let’s hope they don’t fall into the trap of chasing a big name. (Jon Heyman & Joel Sherman)
  • After checking in on Josh Willingham, the Yankees decided the asking price was too high. I’m not quite sure what they’d do with him anyway. Replace Jorge Posada as the designated hitter? (Ken Rosenthal)
  • The Rockies asked the Yankees for a package of Jesus Montero, Dellin Betances, Ivan Nova, and Phil Hughes in exchange for Ubaldo Jimenez. Brian Cashman countered with Hughes and others, and ultimately they pulled out of talks all together when Colorado refused to let them conduct a physical. I wanted Ubaldo, but I can’t imagine giving up several top pieces and not conducting a pre-trade physical on a guy that’s lost some velocity this year. (Heyman & Joel Sherman)
  • Brandon

    Ok, now that we have a deadline open thread, I’ll repost this here…

    Umm, anyone care to explain why the Nationals want Span or Upton? They do realize they are 12 back in the wildcard. There not making the playoffs. Why deal a good young arm for an outfielder that is in there mid to late 20?s that wont be around much longer due to FA? The things they do will never make any sense to me. I mean if there going to deal Storen, deal him for some top prospects. Pull a haul close to what was done in the past. Dont do Storen and another major leaguer for an OF that will be gone soon when you have no chance of making the playoffs.

    • daniel

      they are building for the future. Their team will be very good in a few years

    • Steve (different one)

      Those guys are signed beyond this year, right? They are trying to build a team for 2012-2013.

    • V

      Span is under team control through 2015, and the Nationals don’t have a CF coming up anytime soon. Span is WAAAAAAY underrated (he plays amazing CF defense and isn’t a black hole in the lineup).

      Relievers don’t land you ‘top prospects’, much to the Padres’ chagrin. Span >>>> Storen in value.

      • Joltin Joe

        That’s racist

        (he plays amazing CF defense and isn’t a black hole in the lineup).

        It is politically correct to say isnt an African American hole in the lineup

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Span is under contract for another 3-4 years, it’s not about winning in 2011. Trading a reliever for several years of an above-average center fielder is a no-brainer. I can’t believe the Nats were haggling over which reliever.

      • Brandon

        I didnt know that Span was under control for that long. I thought he was an FA after next season. Then I take what I said back and I agree with you now.

        Also, I dont think its about which reliever anymore. I think its about the other player going with Storen.

    • YankeesJunkie

      Storen for Span is a great deal for Nats if they decide to go through since relievers are replaceable especially for guys that can put up 4 WAR/yr and are cheap until 2015.

    • MannyGeee

      Meh… They have Werth for 6.5 more seasons, so build for the future is kind of a thing.

  • Gonzo

    I think someone implied that they acquiesced to a physical because of the 45 pitch inning. Who knows if that’s true though.

    • Brandon

      Doesnt really matter, IMO. The Rockies sort of have an obligation to agree to it and they should have, unless they know that something is up.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I remember seeing that last night but I can’t remember where. I have no idea why they let him pitch last night. What good could have come from it?

      • Steve (different one)

        It was Kevin Goldstein on Twitter.

      • A.D.

        Makes no sense, the Rox essentially are waiving the white flag on the season with this trade, just skip Ubaldo for 2 days till the deadline is done

  • Granderslam

    Do the Yankees have a starting pitcher up their sleeve?

    Let’s hope. But who? All the available names are practically off the board. Ninja Cash a possibility or doubtful at this point?

    • Steve (different one)

      Bedard might be the only name left. Then again, after yesterday, it seems kindof clear that all the “rumors” are worthless and no one really know what they are up to.

  • Eric

    no way because you have to give up prospects and all the yankee prospects are so good they cant be traded, yankees are building a great team for 2014

    • Louis

      Sarcastic? I mean cause the Yankees top prospects are too good to be traded for a reliever. Half the reason we havent made deals is because teams are valueing prospects more in general. Teams are demanding more young talent for their established players, and buying teams are more reluctant to trade their prospects because waves of young talent have been changing the game recently. Teams realize that the chance of a serviceable player with years of team control is one of the most valuable assets in the game, even for a team like as the Yankees. Sure the Yanks will definitly have a great team in 2014, but they still have a great team now, with plenty of help on the way, even without making any trades.

  • Rich in NJ

    To this point, I like that Cash (and ownership) appear to realize that no deal is far better than a bad deal (i.e., an overpay).

  • Louis

    Are the Pads asking for less for Heath Bell than they are for Adams? Cause Adams price was sky high last I checked. Any deal for Bell seems like it would have to involve a top 5 prospect, am I wrong?

    • Steve (different one)

      Maybe not now that the Rangers called their bluff and dealt with Baltimore.

      • Louis

        so… maybe like a Warren and Joseph kinda thing? Or more? I might be undervaluing because Bell is a reliever and a rental.

    • A.D.

      Adams is more financially friendly

    • Grit for Brains

      Not sure what kind of prospect they want for Bell but yes, Adams does have a higher pricetag because of the extra year of club control

    • MannyGeee

      Be weary of trading for a reliever ( high profile at that) @ the deadline. For every Wood there’s a Gagne…

  • Greg

    I bet they come up with a bench bat, but it looks like there is no real good starter availible.

  • Skip

    Is it me or is the package of Montero, Hughes, Betances, Banuelos >>> the Indians package?

    I heard that Pomeranz is the crown jewel of that package, but isn’t he 22 years old and in High-A? Please explain.

    • A.D.

      College pitcher drafted last year, are only going to rush him so quickly

    • jayd808

      It’s not you. That package is far and away better. Thank God no one was dumb enough to actually MAKE the offer. Welcome Jesus to the bigs on August First… and a tip o’ the cap to Jorge, “well done my good and faithful servant”

    • Louis

      It also could be the fact that since your a yankees fan you value our prospects more than another teams. Pomeranz is legit and Alex White is also a really strong (top 50) kind of prospect. Dont know too much about the other two but I assume their solid. Yea maybe the Rox asked for more from the Yanks than from the Indians, but teams always ask for more from the Yankees. Plus, the way that I heard it, the Rox were pissed at the Yanks package and might of quickened talks with the Tribe out of spite.

      • Sabr King

        If you’re the GM of a multi-million dollar organization, would you trade your most valuable asset in terms of talent to cost, for a lesser package out of spite?

  • Will

    It always seems like other teams ask for WAY too much in trades from the Yanks. Of course Cash says no and then the teams settle for an incredibly lesser package. For the Twins they wanted IPK, Hughes, and Melky and got spare parts from the Mets. Mariners wanted Montero, Nova, Nunez and got Smoak aka Poor man’s Teixeira and some other spare parts. Rockies wanted Jesus, Banuelos, Betances and got Pomeranz, White and fringy guys. I’m so glad Cashman didn’t mortgage the future for a question mark of a pitcher. Look at Javy last year. He put up amazing numbers in 2010, Yanks bought him over, he bombed, and Braves got a promising arm who is close to the bigs in Arodys. I’m so glad to have the two Bs and Montero with us still.

    • Eric

      it only seems like they ask for WAY too much from the yanks because the yanks have a higher view on these players than other organizations. Nobody doubts monteros bat, but he most likely would have to play 1st if he was in the national league or DH in the AL. If he cannot handle catching in the bigs he really doesnt fit into yankees roster and everyone else in MLB knows that. Yanks see betances as an ace, other clubs feel he will be a power arm out of the pen. Bottom line is that it is very true that teams do not want to help the yanks, but if they felt the yankee prospects were the better package they would not choose a lesser deal to try to hurt the yanks.

      • JohnnyC

        Except that the package Indians gave Rockies is, even on the surface, a lesser package. Keith Law says most scouts project Pomeranz to be a late-inning set-up/closer type and White to be a middle reliever. McBride’s a 26 year old organizational corner guy and Gardner’s a 4/5 at best…if that. Granted, with the Yankees leaving the table, that was probably the best deal Colorado could get. It’s significant that they couldn’t wait until the off-season to trade Ubaldo. Makes you think they know something they don’t want other teams to discover. And Jayson Stark tweeted that the physical on Monday is no trivial thing. Deal could still be cancelled.

        • CMP

          That isn’t at all close to what Law said.

          He wrote Pomeranz is a potential number 2 starter and White either a high leverage late inning reliever (AKA set up man) or a number 3 starter.

          http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb.....id=6819978

    • CP

      The problem with the rumors is that you only hear what they were asking for. The requested package from the Yankees is more than they got from the Indians, but that’s not to say they wouldn’t have agreed to a deal with the Yankees for less than that.

      The bigger issue I have is with the physical. If they told the Yankees no and then told the Indians yes, that really annoys me.

  • Rich in NJ

    No wants to help the big, bad Yankee if there is a comparable alternative. Pomeranz, however, is very good return for a guy whose FB velo has dropped 3 mph.

  • Bronx Byte

    Pulling out of a Jimenez deal was the right way to go. Dan O’Dowd in Colorado was looking to fleece the Yankees and Cashman wouldn’t bite.
    A-Rod will be back soon enough and a healthy Soriano and Chavez will do the Yankees some good.
    The September schedule is brutal and Montero can join the team when rosters are expanded.

  • Mike R. – Retire 21

    “The Rockies asked the Yankees for a package of Jesus Montero, Dellin Betances, Ivan Nova, and Phil Hughes in exchange for Ubaldo Jimenez”

    This sounds like something the Yankees put out there to satisfy fans that might be upset about losing out. I think this package might not be 100% accurate.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I don’t think that happens often. Lying about something like that will hurt their reputation with other teams.

    • toad

      That just doesn’t sound like a serious offer to me.

  • BigYank1

    Yanks trying for Wandy now according to Rosenthal:

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....iguez.html

    • JohnnyC

      Astros paying part of the contracts with every deal made so far. Cashman probably will just take the contract as is on Wandy and forego giving up a real prospect.

  • JT

    Keep an eye on Bedard. May not be too expensive.

  • http://Www.or.ly JM

    I am so bad at doing prospect deals because, you know, YTPS. The Yankees supposedly are trying for Wandy, so what would it take to get it done? Would a real B have to be included? “impact” prospect seems like an ambiguous term.

    • pat

      Hopefully no Montero, Romine, Betances or Banuelos. Nova and Mitchell plz.

    • Jorge

      Astros could make a lot of money off of gag “Pants Lendleton” t-shirts.

  • Brooklyn Ed

    Maybe Cashman is talking to Kenny Williams about Danks.

    (yes I know he’s not available.)

    • Greg

      You never know with the White Sox.

  • Simon

    What would be you be willing to pay for Wandy, considering ‘Stros will kick in some serious cash? Would it include a Killer B? 2-4 B prospects?

    • Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

      I wouldn’t pay anything significant. The Yankees don’t need to worry about money, why have the Astros pay?

      • pat

        Because if they’re gonna pay most of his contract he might as well play for them?

      • Simon

        Well, make the Astros pay as much as they are willing but, they are obviously going to want prospects as well, no?

    • mj

      only if that B is brackman. As for the rest i would only include a combo of Warren/Phelps, Pena. Anyone else have any thought?

    • Reggie C.

      David Phelps and a relief prospect (burawa, kanhle, ??).

      Cashman probably picks up half the contract. Phelps probably makes his way into the ‘Stros rotation. The ‘Stros are operating under a mandate to SLASH payroll to 60 million. They’ve got to pick up some of Wandy’s guaranteed money, and a 50/50 agreement with the Yanks to split Wandy’s money just seems fair.

  • Brandon

    Hmmm, whats the price tag for Wandy? His WHIP, H/9, HR/9 are all up. His K/9 is down. But his ERA and BB/9 are also down. His velocity on his pitches are down also.

    • Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

      Also, don’t forget the contract.

      • Brandon

        Thanks for reminding me. That contract is rediculous as well. 7M this season. 10M next season. 13M for 2013

  • Jamey

    I really wish google would let you use that “omit results from this url” thing under news search, anytime I try to scour the names & rumors “Bleacher Report” comes up 20/25 links and if I wanted that level of writing & intelligence I’d simply go to my nearest junior high school & buy their paper for a quarter.

  • Rich in NJ

    They often leak that the Yankees have interest in a player merely to raise the price for another team.

    • Oscar Gamble’s Fro

      Bleacher report? That’s some fanciful shit.

  • Reggie C.

    Unless the ‘Stros were picking up at least HALF of Wandy’s guaranteed money, we’re looking at a desperate move to shore the back end of the rotation. That’s the wrong end to shore up.

  • Januz

    Houston is in a major salary dump mode. Maybe in exchange for taking Rodriguez’s contract, they should accept Cervelli, Igawa & Pena and call it a day?

  • http://www.retire21.org first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21)

    Where exactly does Wandy fit in? Are the Yankees planning on going to a seven man rotation?

  • Zack D

    If people think 3 years/37m is an ugly contract just wait until you see the asking price this offseason when Yankees try to get a #2.

    Wandy at 3/37m, or CJ Wilson at 5/80? Or Edwin Jackson at whatever he gets?

    • Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

      I don’t want either of the first two. Jackson would be alright on a short term deal though. The idea of paying big for Wilson scares me. In my mind, he isn’t a long term fixture like Sabathia is.

      • Zack D

        But Jackson isn’t taking a short term deal when he’s the 3rd best SP in FA.

  • Oscar Gamble’s Fro

    I have a gut feeling the Yanks are going to get King Felix. This is based on absolutely nothing other than a feeling in my gut. I’m not sure what the Yanks will give up for him, nor do I care to speculate, but I just have this feeling that we’re gonna hear a bombshell by 4:00.

    • http://www.retire21.org first name only male (formerly Mike R. – Retire 21)

      I think that might be gas.

      • Oscar Gamble’s Fro

        Haha, that’s comedy.

    • TJ

      Not even remotely possible.

    • Nuke Ladoosh

      Im hoping the Kuroda talks opened the dialogue enough to get Kershaw done in true Ninja fashion. Montero, Betances, Sanchez, Hughes + Nova.

      • Oscar Gamble’s Fro

        That would be nice.

    • celerino sanchez

      I agree with you #17. Banuelos, Betances, Montero, Nunez, Romine, Phil Hughes for King Felix and League.

    • Jason

      Please, stop the drug consumption. It ruins lives… Its not yet too late, I see you can at least type coherent sentences. As insane as those sentences may be…

  • TJ

    “A team official said to “stay tuned” when asked about the Yankees’ pursuit of pitching before the deadline. (Marc Carig)”

    That’t not what the source tweet says, it says;

    “Person with knowledge described Yankees’ involvement as “staying tuned” as the pitching market dries up.”

    So we should not “stay tuned” the Yankees are “staying tuned” to the market.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Whoops, my bad. Fixed the post.

      • TJ

        It can happen, I read it that way too at the start and read it a couple more times to be sure. Maybe even a typo on the source tweet, who knows?

  • Kevin G.

    If the Yankees get ousted out of the playoffs by Ubaldo & the Indians the universe will explode.

    • pat

      And then if Ubie’s elbow explodes next year?

      • Kevin G.

        Too late, universe already exploded.

        • Gonzo

          Head explodes.

      • Reggie C.

        Or not … I mean if Ubaldo doesnt pass the physical then CLE and COL dont execute the trade. A physical is being done.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      I don’t think the Indians are getting in. They’re 23-36 with a -77 run differential since starting the year 30-15, and they needed a huge comeback last night to avoid 22-37.

    • Jorge

      You expect people to be able to remember that far back.

    • Rainbow Connection

      Just like Lee and the Rangers.

  • Cy Pettitte

    no Wandy PLEASE.

    • JobaWockeeZ

      This Wandy hate is kinda ridiculous. He’s better than every other starter than CC.

      • Brandon

        Uhhh, Colon and Garcia say otherwise at this point in time.

        • JobaWockeeZ

          ERA means nothing. Colon may be better but banking on him lasting isn’t a good bet.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        He hasn’t been this year.

        • Zack D

          The thing that matter is who is projected to perform better for the rest of the year. I can see a case for Colon if he stays healthy, but the rest fall behind Wandy.

    • Gonzo

      They need a LOOGY. LOL

      • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

        I think they’d be best by grabbing Choate and Infante from the Marlins.

        • Gonzo

          They learned that instead of paying two (three if you include Igawa) guys $4mm each to not be a LOOGY they should pay one guy all that money.

    • YankeesJunkie

      If Wandy was not signed to an extension in the past year then he would have been a nice pick up, but with him being under a player friendly contract until 2014 passing sounds prudent.

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        That contract also means they don’t have to trade for him today. Wandy’s definitely a guy they could get in August if they want.

  • Chris G.

    Jack Curry reporting via Twitter that Manny Banuelos will be promoted to AAA for his next start.

  • Mark

    Hoo-ray for Manny!

    JackCurryYES

    Banuelos will be promoted to Class AAA 4 next start. He was 4-5 w a 3.50 ERA at AA Trenton. Allowed 1 run in 6 1/3 in last start on 7/27

    • MikeD

      I wonder if this means the Yankees are planning on potentially putting him in the pen by August 31 in case they need another lefty. They might start him another four or five games at AAA to get his innings up, and then finish the year out of the pen on the big league club if they don’t score a lefty reliever.

      • A.D.

        or to Bumgarner him, though guessing he doesn’t have the innings for that

    • Cy Pettitte

      Manny to Montero, oh yes.

      • Cy Pettitte

        conspiracy theory: they want Manny to get comfortable with Jesus before calling both them up to the majors.

        • The Big City of Dreams

          It’s so crazy that it might work :)

    • Bavarian Yankee

      maybe some of the AAA guys will be traded.

  • Sheepmeister

    So what the odds yankees actually make ANY move before the deadline.

  • Brandon

    ManBan Mania heading up to Scranton.

    According to Jack Curry, Banuelos will make his next start at AAA.

    • Granderslam

      There’s the answer to our pitching woes. Kidding.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        Better now than never lol

    • YankeesJunkie

      I understand that the jump from AA to AAA is not that high, but the move is surprising because his numbers have not been dominating so this may be a move to set up Manny to pen in September. This would not terrible IMO as long as he is the rotation in AAA for 2012.

  • TJ

    Jack Curry- Yes Reporting that Manny Banuelos has been promoted to AAA

    “By moving Banuelos to AAA, Yanks will determine if he can be late-season addition. FB command has been issue. Avg about 5 walks per 9″

    Twitter

    “If the Yankees see enough from Banuelos at AAA, there’s always chance he could get starts in majors, with Nova and/or Hughes sliding to pen”

    • Brian

      There’s your new LOOGY!

      • pat

        NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

        • The Big City of Dreams

          Don’t worry it’s not like they have made mistake with highly touted pitching prospects.

    • A.D.

      Presumably Nova staying up to make room?

  • The Big City of Dreams

    Manny to AAA

    • Gonzo

      I’m not sure how I feel about this.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        Meaning happy he moves up a level but also thinking will they making him a reliever.

        • Gonzo

          Basically.

          • The Big City of Dreams

            Same thing that ran through my mind. I can sit here hopefully if he is a reliever it doesn’t hurt his development but we have been down this road before.

            • Gonzo

              Exactly. I am hoping we don’t go through deja vu all over again.

              • The Big City of Dreams

                When i =t comes to the Yankees unfortunately that is the risk of trying to develop and trying to win.

                • The Big City of Dreams

                  it*

  • King George

    Jack Curry said Wandy has to fall into Yanks’ laps…

  • Greg

    Just saw a tweet that said that the Yanks are not keen on his contract or his pitching but they “know they need to do something”.

    Saw that on the bottom line on MLB network.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      They’re not going to make a move just for the sake of making a move. Heyman tweeted that and I facepalmed.

      • Rainbow Connection

        That did that with Soriano.

      • Rainbow Connection

        They did that with Soriano.

  • A.D.

    So why were the Yanks denied a physical on Ubaldo when he is now taking a physical to complete the trade.

    Also isn’t a physical standard when making a trade?

    • Greg

      Its from Jon Heyman.

      • Greg

        Reply Fail

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Yeah. I ready somewhere that Cleveland flipped out when he pitched last night and demanded the physical.

      • Reggie C.

        I guess COL really didnt want to lose out on Pomeranz and White. COL conceded. Had Cashman actually made Montero and Betances available , i wonder if Cashman’s demand for a physical wouldve been met.

        • JohnnyC

          Could be Cashman was trying to suss out if Ubaldo was damaged goods. By refusing to allow a physical before a deal was finalized, Colorado tipped their hand. The Indians are, believe it or not, more desperate than the Yankees. They may see 2011 as their best chance for 2-3 years due to the awful 2 months they’ve gone through.

  • Brandon

    If the yankees dont make a move, there will be alot of unhappy people here. But Cashman is being a very good GM. The Rockies wanted the galaxy from the Yankees for Ubaldo, and Wandy is not that much of an upgrade when you think about it. Why deal prospects worth something for Wandy and his contract, even if the Astros pay a chunk of it? The reliever market still seems to have not come down as prices still look sky high.

    • Joe

      I agree 10000%

      The rotation may need help, but Ubaldo is damaged goods and Wandy Rodriguez is not a good fit for the AL East.

      I wanted John Danks, but since he isn’t available (as of now) lets stand pat, keep the kids and lets play ball

      • JobaWockeeZ

        He’s not going to turn from a 3.60 ERA pitcher to a 5.00 pitcher in the AL East. Boston can’t do that alone and it’s not like the Orioles or Rays are intimidating.

        Yes he’ll suffer but damn it’s a much needed upgrade which could potentially be had for a much lesser cost than Ubaldo.

  • Simon

    Just wondering, would the Yankees take an extra player from Astros like a lefty reliever or a bench bat in a Wandy deal, (big if).

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      They could, I’m sure Houston has a spare LOOGY. All their bench players are starting now.

    • Zack D

      Well the Astros have plenty of bench bats to pick

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      Mark. Melancon.

  • BK2ATL

    The Phillies fleeced the Astros for Pence, by not including Dom Brown in the deal to replace Pence.

    The Braves fleeced the Astros for Bourne, by not including a top 4 pitching prospect, and the Braves have real prospects there.

    Now Houston GM Ed Wade wants an impact package for Wandy and his $40 million contract??? Is he delusional?

    While I’m not sure Wandy is the answer, he is an upgrade over Hughes and AJ right now. Plus, it would be great to have another lefty in the rotation.

    What would you offer?

    • A.D.

      Maybe his idea of an impact package is Warren and Mitchell given those other deals

      • Tom Zig

        As long as it’s DJ Mitchell and not Bryan Mitchell, I’m down

    • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

      I’d offer some C/D prospects, but take on most if not all of the salary.

    • Joe

      I dont think Wandy is an upgrade over AJ Burnett and id rather have Nova in the rotation than Wandy.

      His contract is the killer for me, if it was a 1 year rental, that would be fine, but not for three years.

      • BK2ATL

        Which AJ are you talking about? Good AJ or bad AJ? Wandy couldn’t be less consistent than AJ. No one could be.

        If Houston eats a substantial amount (25-40%) of the contract, it’s not a bad deal if we’re parting with non top-4 prospects.

        I agree that Nova should stay in the rotation.

        CC, Colon, Wandy, Garcia, Nova….but then there’s that AJ dude again. We’re stuck with that dude and his “potential.” Ha!!!!

    • CMP

      I think Wandy would be a number 4 starter in the AL east.

      I’d take my chances with what they have now and try to sign CJ Wilson or Darvish this offseason rather than allocate resources on a guy who very likely won’t be a difference marker for the next 3 years.

    • Gonzo

      I liked Pence’s deal better than the deal they got for Bourn.

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      You’re seriously overstating the talent that Pence is if you think the Astros got fleeced in that deal.

  • CMP

    What ever happened to that guy who was posting non stop all March and April about how ManBan should have started the season in the Yankee Rotation?

    • Zack D

      “THAT is a ML pich!”

    • Gonzo

      I was pro ManBan in the rotation, but they guy you are talking about was UltimateWarriorJames. I think. Anyone know his real handle?

      For me, I had no idea that Hughes would be the weakest link in this year’s rotation.

  • Tom Zig

    Basically it comes down to, do you want Wandy through 2014 or CJ Wilson through at least 2016

    • bonestock94

      CJ Wilson is clearly better, but idk if the Yankees will be able to sign him. He might wanna re-sign with Texas, they have money.

      • Gonzo

        Even if they can’t get CJ Wilson, there is value in keeping some $ flexibility. I dunno how much value though.

        • bonestock94

          You have $13m coming off the books next year though with Posada, so that would help. I doubt it makes a huge difference to them regardless, they make a massive amount of money.

          • Gonzo

            The money always matters.

            • bonestock94

              Yea, but money has never really stopped the Yankees from making improvements to the team. If they like the players they’ll pay.

              • Gonzo

                That wasn’t my point. It’s whether they like the players more than having $ flexibility.

                • bonestock94

                  I guess we’re on the same page. I just have a hard time picturing the point when the payroll becomes inflexible.

                  • Gonzo

                    What about the Mike Cameron deal that was killed because of money?

                    • bonestock94

                      Was it:

                      We can’t afford Cameron

                      or

                      We don’t think Cameron is worth this much

                    • Gonzo

                      Cash had a deal in place for Cameron. It was killed from up top because of money.

    • The Fallen Phoenix

      Edwin Jackson through 2016, or none of the above.

  • Wil Nieves Number 1 Fan

    “UBALDO IS STANDING IN GEORGE STEINBRENNER’S BOX…OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS UBALDO JIMINEZ IS A NEW YORK YANKEE.”

    Well, Suzyn, I thank you.

    • Oscar Gamble’s Fro

      I laughed.

    • boogie down

      Thank you for this awesome blast from the past.

  • bonestock94

    Meh, I’d rather they take all of Wandy’s salary and not give them great prospects. The Yanks have tons of money.

  • Josh

    I’m guessing the deal for Wandy would be something like Brackman, Adams/Joseph, and maybe Lance Pendleton (they had him in spring training as a rule 5 draftee) ?

  • The Big City of Dreams

    For 1st time in a while, heard Yankee folks drooling about Montero’s offense again. They see him as option in majors. When? Soon, I’d guess

    20 seconds

    ———————————-

    Please let this be the case

    • The Big City of Dreams

      That’s from Curry

    • bonestock94

      Nice, even though I have huge doubts about Montero’s ability to contribute this season it’s better than the ghost of Posada.

      • The Big City of Dreams

        I agree all Jesus has to do is out hit the guys he would be replacing. Not saying it would be easy to he has a chance to do it. I hope ppl aren’t expecting him to be Joey Bats.

    • Rainbow Connection

      What a coincidence that they’re saying that at the trade deadline and having someone tweet about it.

  • Jedile

    Wandy for Cervelli, Pena and the full 9 seasons of Seinfeld. Course Astros then need to pick up some salary.

    • Cy Pettitte

      Wandy for a package built around Cervelli would be nice, opens up the spot for Jesus already

    • Rainbow Connection

      I would leave seasons one and nine. Awful.

  • Mark

    Richard Justice(Stros writer) says he thinks it gets done, was just on MLB Net, take it FWIW.

    • bonestock94

      Richard Justice’s word is worth approximately 1 cent

  • V

    I don’t want Wandy, just because of what it means post 2012 – that offseason is looking JUICY with the FA pitchers – Hamels/Weaver/etc.

    • http://Www.or.ly JM

      They’ll have enough money for them regardless, trust me.

  • Jedile

    Would it be crazy if we trade for wandy just for this season and maybe next season, then put him in the Bullpen as longman? I mean he is pricy, but if ‘Stros take on salary it might be okay. Or we could trade him down the road for prospects. Do the yanks even trade players for prospects?

  • jerek deter

    The SP market is not that strong this year. Ubaldo was the gem and the rest are #3′s at best. The Yanks are definitely in need of a top of the rotation type of arm and there just doesn’t seem to be any out there. I’m hoping the bombers can try and make a surprise move and pry Haren away from the Angels. I know its a long shot, but it is a possibility because the Angels could be looking for a return on their investment and could get a nice haul from the Yankees. The Halos are behind the Rangers and would have a tough time catching the Yanks this year to make the playoffs. I was hoping by this time they’d be like 5 games out of the division and a deal would have been more likely. He is one of the pitchers I’d deal away some solid prospects for. They should have dealt for him last year. unfortunately, I don’t see any magical deals happening this year.

    • Wooderson

      as weird as this sounds, i actually had a dream last night that the yankees landed danks today. i never dream about baseball or shit like that. it was pretty fuckin weird to wake up and be like “oh, danks….cool dream.”

  • gargoyle

    Much prefer Bedard to Wandy.

    • whozat

      That can only be due to name recognition and remembering who he was back with the Orioles. Bedard’s health is nighmarishly bad.

      • FIPster Doofus

        A few months of Bedard is preferable to three years of Wandy, IMO.

      • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

        Despite the health, I’d still take Erik Bedard over Rodriguez. It’s not name recognition either since most people have to know about Wandy Rodriguez by now. The Yankees have been talking about getting him for the last few years. He’s the new Gabe White. Bedard’s having a better year and doing it in the AL…which carries a lot of importance. I’m always wary of NL pitchers coming over to the AL.

  • wow

    Joel Sherman has the worst Tweeting abilities in the history of Twitter. It’s like the guy is drunk.

    • Joel Sherman

      So…what are you wearing?

  • http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/ Steve S.

    Nice find by Kevin Goldstein, via NYBD:

    Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus did throw out a warning on Twitter about Bell that hasn’t been talked about: his declining strikeout rate

    Usually a severe drop in K/9 tells you that something is wrong with a pitchers health or mechanics. A career 9.2 per nine K-Rate, Bell was over 10 in 2009 and 2010, but this year is at 6.6. In July it’s been down to about 5. It hasn’t hurt his effectiveness (30 saves, 2.34 ERA), but it’s something to be aware of.

    • IRF

      Right, Heath Bell is solid, but overrated IMO. People flipped out last night when KG said Uehara was a better option.

  • mbonzo

    Giants looking for a catcher, how about Russell Martin?

    • Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

      Anthopoulos will get Ianetta, and then flip him to the Giants for Lincecum, duh!

    • Sarah

      How about Montero for Bumgarner?

      • mbonzo

        Giants just need a catcher for the rest of this year and next until Posey is back. They won’t want to give up anything too big after Wheeler and Neal. I was thinking Eric Surkamp.

        • Sarah

          Yeah, I know this, but it’s a good dream. God knows they need another bat.

          I doubt they’d give up Surkamp, I think they like him more than Wheeler.

          I think they were hoping for Ramon Hernandez of the Reds or Yorvit Torrealba of Rangers.

  • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

    please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez. please don’t get Wandy Rodriguez.

    • IRF

      How do you feel about the Yankees acquiring Wandy Rodriguez?

    • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

      MLB Network just reported that it sounds like the Wandy Rodriguez talks have quieted down. Let’s hope so. I won’t lose sleep over “losing out” on Wandy Rodriguez.

      • Zack D

        Will you lose sleep over Garcia in Game 3 and AJ in Game 4?

        • ROBTEN

          Nope. It’s a baseball game.

  • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat
    • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

      Nope, Adams is a Ranger.

      • mbonzo

        Mike Adams has been incredible but I don’t trust any pitchers stats from San Diego.

      • V

        Damnit. Wanted Bell traded so Adams would be closer. Just dealt Axford for a 2B replacement for Weeks. Now I have Bailey/Isringhausen. Oy. Hope Storen gets traded so my Clippard pick up is worthwhile!!

  • Frank

    Does Jeter injury force Yanks to trade for infielder?

    • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

      if he’s out for a month or more yeah.

  • Granderslam

    So….No bat? No BP arm (lefty especially)? No SP? I know there is still time left until the actual deadline, but wow…major Fail.

    • YankeeFan

      Montero/Romero/Nova

      • Granderslam

        Montero, okay. Romero, maybe. But Nova, nope. In the playoffs? I mean, I can’t blame the Yankees since there was nothing really on the market, but I just don’t trust the current rotation (after CC) against BoSox, Phillies, etc.

        • YankeeFan

          So how can you not blame them since nothing really was on the market but call it a major fail?

          • Granderslam

            Even if the market is dried up, it’s still a major fail. Whether it’s their fault or not…doesn’t matter. Still a fail since we need quality-proven players.

            • YankeeFan

              You need an opportunity in order to fail and there was nothing there.

              • Granderslam

                Haren…Lee…there were opportunities and the Yankees are still struggling to make up for those previous mistakes. Therefore…fail.

    • mbonzo

      Who improves the organization?

  • RubaDoob

    mlbtr says the yanks inquired on stewart…thoughts? quality lefty becnh bat til arod comes back

    • Frank

      Or, Jeter has a serious injury.

    • http://bleedingyankeeblue.com Jesse

      i dont think a .147 hitter with 0 homers is a “quality lefty”

      • http://www.twitter.com/bgeary8 bgeary

        Maybe not, but there’s a chance for significant upside. He’s been pretty good at times in the past.

  • http://Www.or.ly JM

    One hour… Panic building…

    • http://Www.or.ly JM

      Aaaand talks are officially dead… Whoop-de-doo.

  • Downs

    Hearing Astros close to trading Wandy Rodriguez to Cleveland for 2 minor leaguers.
    -richard justice just tweeted

  • Rich in NJ

    I really like that the Yankees aren’t burning prospects on questionable or high risk upgrades, but the larger lesson from these deals is that the smaller market teams are having no problem competing despite the bs spin to the contrary.

    • Rainbow Connection

      Competing once every 5 years (or more) and competing every single year aren’t the same.
      Stop pretending that spending $200 million doesn’t affect competition.

      • Rich in NJ

        The well-run small market teams do compete every season, or almost every season. Some large market teams like the Mets and Dodgers don’t.

        It’s not only what you spend but how you spend it.

        So I don’t need to pretend because it’s reality.

    • Jack Merridew

      Yankees, Sox, and now Phillies compete every single year. Indians have a window where they’re good then have to rebuild. Same with the Twins, the Rays, Pirates, Brewers. These teams can’t sign CC and AJ and still afford Teix, A-Rod, and Mo. It’s not the same.

      • Rich in NJ

        They compete because they are well-run. Granted, they can’t sign CC, but signing AJ was a weakness of the payroll size, not a strength. They traded a very good young player for A-Rod. The Rangers subsidized his salary for years. But Colorado did the same thing with Mike Hampton when he was traded to Atlanta. So this isn’t merely about market size.

        As for Mo, he’s a once in a lifetime player, and a product of the farm system, which highlights that it’s important for both big and small revenue teams to grow their own. Sometimes it seems like the Yankees,or at least some fans, forget that and think that payroll can compensate for everything; it can’t.

        No system is perfect, but the Yankees would be at a disadvantage if they had to spend the same amount as the Royals because a $2m house in the NYC area costs about $300,000 in KC. Also, states like Texas can offer advantages like no state income tax.

        So the picture is far too complicated to merely attribute it to a function of payroll size.

  • Jack Merridew

    Hand it to the Indians, they’re doing something. Cashman has an hour left to improve the club.

    • Viktor

      There doing something..if that what you want the Yankees to do then im fine with doing nothing. Wandy has been garbage this year.

  • mbonzo

    Wandy Rodriguez has a 4.85 career ERA away from Minute Maid park.

    He’s also got a 5.32 ERA v. American league pitchers in 130.1 IP.

    • mbonzo

      Uhh American League hitters, that’d be terrible if it was against pitchers.

      • ROBTEN

        What? You threw 130 innings against American League pitchers? How’d you do that? Heck, I’m not even mad; that’s amazing.

    • Reggie C.

      Yeah. I’m glad Cashman finally glanced at the numbers.

      • Zack D

        Wonder if Cashman look at his a xFIP of 3.98 away from Minute Maid.

      • http://www.twitter.com/bgeary8 bgeary

        Do you honestly believe this was anything Cash was ever interested in? I don’t.

  • Grit for Brains

    Erik Bedard, please become a Yankee today.

    • Ryan

      Um………please tell me this is a joke.

      • Mike HC

        He would actually be a pretty decent pickup assuming he is relatively cheap to get.

        • Ryan

          I agree about his abilities. He’s a head-case though. I usually hate discussing a player’s mental makeup, but somebody who limits his media session to 4 questions in a March spring training game might literally melt in NY in October.

          • Mike HC

            Oh, I never heard anything either way about his personality. Maybe not then.

  • Reggie C.

    time to shorten these games!

    Lets get Heath Bell!!!

  • mbonzo

    Ian Stewart to the Yankees please.

  • Rainbow Connection

    Are there any injury prone relievers the Yanks can pick up? Or have they already signed all of them?

  • Mike HC

    Second year in a row that an ace the Yanks were in on ended up being traded to an AL competitor. Not saying Cashman is right or wrong, just pointing out the obvious. Here is to hoping our top prospects end up being worth keeping.

    • Frank

      I have a feeling a year from now we’ll all be happy they didn’t get Jimenez.

      • Mike HC

        I hope that has more to do with our prospects than anything Jimenez does, but I see what you are saying.

  • Brian

    Yanks current rotation is not WS caliber

    • mbonzo

      3rd best record in baseball, please explain.

      • Jimmy McNulty

        Well there’s two parts of the team. The pitching staff and the everyday line up that they field everyday. Both contribute to the team’s record, and the above poster was only addressing one part.

    • Mike HC

      CC alone almost makes it WS caliber, combined with our lineup.

    • CP

      The Yankees top 3 pitchers all have a FIP at 3.65 or better. The Phillies and Giants rotations are better, but they’re not in the AL so they get to face pitchers and they won’t stop the Yankees from reaching the WS.

      In the AL, the Rangers and Tigers each have 2 pitchers that good and the Red Sox have 1.

      By their performance, the rotation is certainly World Series caliber.

  • theyankeewarrior

    Nothing? Really?

  • Stryker

    man if it’s this quiet in the next 50 mins i do not want to read the comments.

  • IRF

    Hey guys, remember Jerry Meals?

  • Gerald Williams (Yankee Legend) Needs a Monument

    Wayyyyyyyyy to quiet right now. Let’s bring up Montero and Man Ban and see what happens. That could be better then any pickup available right now. I wouldn’t mind seeing another reliever though, especially a LOOGY. Bell would be sweet, but not for any big prospects. I think our rotation will be OK, but I’d like to see Nova in it and move Phile back to the pen.

    • BK2ATL

      I think we’ll be seeing both Montero and ManBan sometime this year. Along with the return of A-Rod, Soriano, Nova and Chavez, I’m really not sure what more Cashman could do. It’s better than a BS trade would bring.

      I certainly was not sold on Ubaldo or Wandy coming here. Even less for Ubaldo with major question marks for their ransom demands. Good luck to Cleveland. I hope it works out, because if it doesn’t that’s a 3-5 year step back.

      What in the hell would we need with Ian Stewart or Heath Bell?

      This market pretty much sucked, as we had no need for K-Rod, nor Beltran, nor Pence, nor Bell. Kiroda wasn’t leaving. Bedard is a pitch away, every pitch, from the DL, as is Harden. Why waste your time there?

      I’m okay upgrading the roster internally from AAA and the DL returns.

  • http://Www.or.ly JM

    Worst trade deadline evar.

  • Bo

    2010 deadline, Cash gets used for leverage, no major improvements made. 2011 offseason, Cash gets used for leverage, no major improvements made save for the Soriano deal that he had to be overruled to make (and wasn’t enough by itself to check the improvement from Philly or Chowderland).

    2011 deadline, multiple sizable deals go down including ones involving impact starters (and who wouldn’t be an impact starter on the current staff), while it looks like nothing of consequence for the Yankees on the horizon despite Cash’s talk about needing to make in-season deals after this offseason.

    Even Philly made another All-Star acquisition while sending what looks like dubious prospects in return, but the Yankees can’t get anything started with team after team that’s willing to deal with other squads. Either Cashman goes or a shark who can negotiate using what we’ve got needs to be brought into the front office mix and leave Cash to micro-manage the farm.

    • Grit for Brains

      You can be upset about not getting Haren, Oswalt or Cliff Lee in the past, but what would you have liked him to have done this week? Overpay for Ubaldo? No thanks.

    • http://Www.or.ly JM

      /Boversimplification

      • Gerald Williams (Yankee Legend) Needs a Monument

        How does Stewart make any sense? I’d rather use Nunez.

        • Gerald Williams (Yankee Legend) Needs a Monument

          and Chavez.

        • http://Www.or.ly JM

          Me too. I didn’t say anything about Stewart.

    • IRF

      Who exactly would you like the Yankees to acquire? Theres no one out there that really fits a need without costing too much.

      Also, the prospects in the philly deal were not dubious. They are the teams 2nd and third best prospects.

    • mbonzo

      If the Rockies really did refuse a physical, what player traded would have improved this year? You’re totally ungrateful getting #2 performances from Cashman deals with Colon and Garcia, and instead complain because you want them to trade for the sake of trading.

  • Mark

    Just call up Montero, A-Rod back in a few weeks, Soriano back for the stretch now. Would Eric Bedard really be better than Ivan Nova?

  • bobtaco

    Paging TSJC…

  • Bo

    It’s on Cash that he left it all to this week when asking prices would get nuts. If he’s gonna sit there after the offseason and indicate to fans assurances that his work wasn’t done and point to the time between then and the deadline as the time where he could make up the difference, it’s on him that we’re minutes away from another dud deadline after having since last July (or earlier, let’s be real since we saw how quickly Javy was deteriorating) to get the staff looking playoff-ready.

    • mbonzo

      Stupid Yankee rotation with the best ERA in the AL-East needs more aces.

      • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

        but…but…but…the Red Sox have every. ace. in. baseball.

        • BK2ATL

          Yeah like Andrew Miller and Tim Wakefield….Aces, alright. That’s 40% of Boston’s rotation right now. LOL!!!

          Sometimes, some Yankees fans just need some perspective. Colon, Garcia AND Nova have pitched better than Miller, Wakefield and Bedard.

          By the way, we’re 1.5 games out of 1st place in the AL East right now, by the end of the day, possibly just one game back.

    • pat

      You’re back?!?!?!?! How’s Lanny? And Sal? We’ve missed you guys.

  • mbonzo

    Yankees about to be a game out from the best record in the American League, but frickin’ Cashman sucks for not making them better.

    • Gonzo

      162-0 or bust.

  • Grit for Brains

    Bedard would be nice for his ability and his handedness

  • IRF

    ITS ALL OVA FOLKS

  • http://Www.or.ly JM

    Meh….

  • Bo

    “Also, the prospects in the philly deal were not dubious. They are the teams 2nd and third best prospects.”

    …from a system that’s already been giving up many of its prospects in big deals If we’d been successfully making deals that shipped out as many prospects as Philly has for Halladay and Oswalt, our 2nd and 3rd best wouldn’t exactly be setting the world on fire, which is the case with Cosart and Singleton. Even Philly fans have weighed in saying as much.

    • IRF

      Yep, listen to those knowledgeable Philly fans.

      Ignore the fact that Cosart ranked 70th on BA’s top 100 and Singleton ranked 39th.

  • Bavarian Yankee

    oh man, what a boring trade deadline. Almost nothing happening in the entire league this year.

  • mbonzo

    Bedard traded, wonder where.

    • Cy Pettitte

      fucking red sox.

      • Freddy Garcia’s 86 mph Heat

        more players for their DL

        • Gonzo

          The Harden non-deal left a gaping hole.

    • T-Long

      That’s still a pretty good move for the sox. Damn, Cashman was sleeping at the wheel again.

  • King George

    Bedard to Sox.

  • Grit for Brains

    I don’t understand why Cashman wouldn’t get Bedard!??!11!!??

  • pat

    Love how teams just give the Sox their players. The best playre they could get for Bedard is Tim fucking Federowicz?

    .275/.334/.409 Tim Fedorwicz? Ugh.

    • T-Long

      Yeah that’s Bull#@!#. Makes me wonder if Cashman even made an attempt on Bedard at all.

      • butchie whaler

        Should he have made an attempt on Bedard?

  • Greg

    So we did ABSOLUTELY nothing at the deadline. Doesnt inspire confidence in this year

    • CP

      Except the Yankees have the best pythagorean record in baseball this year, so they aren’t the ones that need to do anything.

      It’s everyone chasing the Yankees that need to make changes.

      • Greg

        I will ask the same question that I have been asking. Can we win the WS with this team?

  • Dennis

    Gammonds just said saltala… Is a frontline catcher. Hahahaha

    • Gonzo

      He’s reading an old scouting report. LOL

    • http://www.yankeenumbers.com Mr. Sparkle

      Saw that and laughed my buttocks off. After I picked them up and reattached them, I remembered that it was Gammons talking about a member of the Red Sox, so what else is new?

      I also remembered way back in early 1991 when Gammons said about Kevin Mass, “The kid can flat out hit.” Yes, it was definitely 1991…not 1990.

  • yankee_lover

    on our way 2 chicago montero better be on the plane

  • Joe R

    Cash jus said Banuelos getting moved to AAA.

    • Joe R

      Didnt realize this was information released pregame. Oops.

  • Michael Mirabella

    Gosh I wish Weaver was on the Yankees, guy seems like a fighter

    • dennis

      wait 2 years him and hamels in 2013, book it.

  • celerino sanchez

    Can we call up jesus now? Time to give Jorge a viking burial.