Jul
31

2014 Trade Deadline Open Thread

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The non-waiver trade deadline is 4pm ET this afternoon, and over these next few hours there will be a ton of rumors and speculation. A bunch of actual moves too. The Yankees have already swung trades for Brandon McCarthy and Chase Headley, but Brian Cashman has said he is still seeking another starter and another bat. I can’t imagine they’ll get through the day without doing something.

On Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, we learned the Yankees are “in on everything” but do not want to part with their top minor leaguers. Josh Willingham, John Danks, Jake Arrieta, Justin Ruggiano, Chris Denorfia, Joaquin Benoit, James Russell, Marlon Byrd, Ian Kennedy, and Brett Anderson were among the names connected to the club. They do not have interest in Matt Kemp and were not targeting Justin Masterson before he was traded to the Cardinals, however. We’ll keep track of the day’s Yankees-related rumors right here in this post, so make sure you check back throughout the day. All the timestamps are ET.

  • 3:42pm: Apparently the Yankees are getting Stephen Drew from the Red Sox. Huh. [Gordon Edes]
  • 3:36pm: The Yankees are out on Byrd. [Jayson Stark]
  • 3:01pm: The Yankees are one of several teams talking to the Rays about Price. I can’t see this happening but I’d love to be wrong. [Bob Nightengale]
  • 1:55pm: There is a false rumor going around saying the Yankees have acquired Byrd. They have not. At least not yet, anyway. It’s bonus. No deal. [Sherman]
  • 1:48pm: The Rays will trade David Price today. I doubt it will be to the Yankees, but geez. This is fun! [Joel Sherman]
  • 1:34pm: The Yankees are going to take things right down to the wire. They’re still discussing Willingham, Denorfia, and Byrd. [Ken Rosenthal]
  • 1:25pm: Just in case you’re wondering, Danks is currently pitching for the White Sox, which wouldn’t happen if he was close to being traded. Pretty slow day for the Yankees thus far.
  • 11:17am: The Yankees continue to work on small deals. Nothing big is expected to happen today. Lame. [Feinsand]
  • 9:48am: The Red Sox have traded Lester (and Jonny Gomes) to the Athletics, according to multiple reports. Yoenis Cespedes is the primary piece going back to Boston. Wow.
  • 9:30am: The Yankees are not working on anything huge at the moment. Their focus is on upgrading in right field and adding depth to the bullpen and pitching staff. [Joel Sherman]
  • The Yankees and Phillies have discussed Byrd, but nothing is close. Apparently there’s some concern about how he’d fit in the clubhouse. They are not in on Alex Rios and maintain interest in Willingham. [Jon Heyman]
  • Despite the connection to Danks, the Yankees have no interest in picking up the $28M or so he is owed from 2015-16. He is scheduled to start at 1pm ET this afternoon. They also did not bother to call the Red Sox about Jon Lester. Seems like that would be a gigantic waste of time. [Mark Feinsand & Nick Cafardo]
  • Beantown Bombers Fan

    How much $$$ would ChiSox have to eat to make Danks attractive?

    • I’m One

      $28MM? OK, Maybe $26 or $27MM would work. You might be able to get the same performance from a pitcher earning league minimum.

      • Djan

        Time to save all money possible and pursue lester in f.a without loosing a draft pick!

  • SamVa

    I really like the idea of Rios, but I guess that ain’t happening.

    Asdrubal Cabrera could be an interesting fit for 2B.

  • MP

    Via MLBTR, Jon Lester traded to an unknown team.

    • I’m One

      Any chance the Yankees have moved to the West Coast? :-)

    • Tom

      Speculation that it’s the A’s and it might be Gomes and Lester for Cespedes (WEEI Alex Speir)

      • I’m One

        Unless the A’s can re-sign Lester, they got fleeced.

        • Tom

          Yeah I’m not sure I get it… unless they were trying to move some future salary? Though Cespedes isn’t making a ton of money – I think around mil per?

          But since it’s Beane….people will be searching for a reason to love it (like the Jim Johnson trade). I didn’t think the Shark/Hammel trad was all that good either (Russell and their 2013 1st round pick)

          • Tom

            He’s actually making 10.5mil next year and can become a FA after that – so maybe it’s not such a bad deal (I didn’t realize he could be a FA after next season)

          • Brett is Bubbas Son

            After coming so close in the early naughts, I think they don’t want to walk away empty handed with such a good team again. Lester gives them a 4rd ace level pitcher on their staff (Kazmir, Gray, Lester, Samarj…(screw that)) and Gomes isn’t that large of a down grade over Cespedes over the last 3 years, JG OPS+ 2012-142, 2013-111, 2014-92, YC 2012-139, 2013-103, 2014-114. I would definetly rather YC than JG, but I would much rather have JL and JG than YC.

    • Colombo

      If the rumor about it being Oakland is true, that is a truly scary situation. That rotation is otherworldly. Good for Billy Beane to realize he has a chance here and really going for it.

      • nycsportzfan

        Oakland is tinkering to much. Jason Hammel has been just pathetic since being traded to Oakland and Samrdzjia has been good but not great. They are giving up pieces like Addison Russell to upgrade a rotation that didn’t need upgrading and it might bite em..

        • Chris Z.

          Don’t you worry. If it fails MLB will figure out some way to protect mid and small market teams from making these kinds of mistakes. Like, if you don’t win the world series you get your prospects back. Anything in the name of parody.

          • AdamP

            “In the name of parody ”

            I see what you did there.

  • JLC 776

    There’s a surprising amount of interesting drama going on with this trade deadline – sadly not a lot of it seems to involve the Yankees. The dealing of Lester and other Sox trade chips (and how many of them will simply come back in 2015), the ineptitude of Ruben Amaro and the Phillies’ front office, the potential aggressiveness of the Orioles – all fun stuff to watch.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew) RIP Egon

    The MLB trading deadline is the biggest cock tease in all of sports.

    David Price is on the move! John Lester scratched from his start! Phillies are making Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels available!

    Teams would have to be blown away to give up such guys and obviously GM’s are prospect hugging more than ever. Sadly 95% of what is being reported right now is just click bait. Rarely do any of these guys get moved. The biggest name to get traded might have already happened in Justin Masterson.

    Idk but I woke up on the cynical side of the bed this morning.

    • CountryClub

      Looks like Lester is going to A’s according to heyman

    • Frank

      Exactly- it’s like having a hot babe smoke your wood only to stop before you shoot you’re load.

      • Deep Thoughts

        Truly poetic. This is Frank DeFord, isn’t it?

      • Frankie D

        But what if she lets you put it in her poop chute?

    • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew) RIP Egon

      ANDDDDDDDDDDD within 15 minutes of posting this, the Lester trade happens.

      hmmm Lets see if this works….

      The Yankees totally won’t get Cole Hamels today! They hug their prospects too much!

      (eagerly waits and sees)

      • I’m One

        Hey, it’s worth a try!

    • Ed

      Reading this right after the Lester / Cespedes trade happens is rather amusing :)

  • Yankee$

    “They are not in on Alex Rios…”
    This is the message I would expect Ninja Cashman to want in print this morning. I think he’ll be a Yankee before afternoon rush hour.

    • D$1184

      True. There was no rumor of the Yankees being in on Mark Teixeira and then boom, he’s signed.

  • Frankie Cerveddardi

    Not another penny nor prospect should be dumped into this monstrosity. When the 2nd WC was created we all knew that it would delude clubs into thinking that they still had a chance. If we were under the 1 WC format we’d be dead in the water.

    The division is a pipe dream, folks. We had 7 games against the worst team in baseball while the O’s were playing the two best teams and we lost a game in the standings. It ain’t happening.

    They should stand pat, keep what prospects they have and play them more in the 2nd half. Get the pitching healthy and see if we can do better next year filling in the black holes at 2nd, 3rd and RF.

    • CountryClub

      Not if the player they get will help next yr too. In that case it would be fine to make a trade to try and help this yr.

      • I’m One

        I see nothing wrong with rental players that upgrade the team while costing little (Headley & McCarthy are good examples). I’m also fine with giving up something of value if the player coming in exchange provides value for future years. They just need to chose the right players (always an issue determining that).

        • CountryClub

          agreed.

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Don’t like Danks.

    Go for Alexi Ramirez to play SS next season , until Tulowitski becomes available!

    And one of the few pitchers I’d consider trading Severino for is 25 year old, lefty Chris Sale, who is underpaid. Of course that is a pipe dream.

    • nycsportzfan

      I brought up the idea of Alexi the other day. Let em play some 2nd/3rd/DH/SS the rest of this yr, and take over next yr. We could use the RH bat with pop. Alexi makes sense.

  • Frank

    Yanks should be sellers, not buyers. That said, this day is the most over-hyped event except for perhaps the NFL announcing the schedule in April.

    • Kenny

      The entire NFL is overhyped. There is no runner-up in that competition.

  • Frankie Cerveddardi

    A’s appear to have a trade for Lester. Beane is going for it and I give him a lot of credit. He’s a good GM who I wish we would have snagged years ago. Our farm would be in a lot better shape.

    • Tom K

      Oakland’s farm system is, and has been, quite bad for a while now.

    • CountryClub

      A good GM that has never won a playoff series. That fact doesn’t make him bad, but he’s had some really good regular season teams that have done nothing in the playoffs. If he had that same track record in NY, most fans would be calling for his head on a daily basis.

      • Paisa

        They’ve been to the alcs twice

        • Evan3457

          Once. 2006. And got swept.

          • Paisa

            You’re right, I thought they had played Detroit again in 2012 for some reason. I guess I’ve done my best the lastfew years to forget the gory details of that postseason

    • mitch

      basically nobody on the current As team came through their farm system

      • nycsportzfan

        Josh Donaldson and Sean Doolittle are probably 2 of the biggest pieces on the A’s roster.

  • Y’s Guy

    Lester and Gomes for Cespedes?!?!

  • Frank

    Great move by RS getting Cespedes.

  • Kenny

    Alex Speier is saying that it’s Lester and Gomes for Cespedes possibly

  • http://www.twitter.com/mattpat11 Matt DiBari

    The team is a dumpster fire coming off an offensive no show against Colby Lewis and they’re worried about a potential upgrade’s personality?

    • Terry

      This has been mentioned before.

      The Yankees market their image and, more than that, they are the international image of MLB. They’ve built their roster that way too. That’s why Granderson was encouraged to be an ambassador of baseball abroad after he was acquired to give him international exposure and goodwill and why so many of the Yankees are involved in community and international outreach (including Tanaka being an outreach to the USA).

      A lot goes into being a part of the Yankees clubhouse, not simply grooming standards and hitting a ball with a bat (although it’s certainly a part of it).

      That’s not to say Byrd can’t fit in per se, but given his modus operandi, it would be a chore for him and could he accept it over the course of years? Would he want to? This is the subtext for the friction between some people in the Yankee organization and Cano. The opening public offer from Cano and Jay-Z (whom the Yankees never liked) was a ‘in your face’ slap in the business world.

      With Byrd, given his entire package, of course the Yankees would tread lightly.

  • Bob

    Lester and Gomes for cepedes

    • mike

      wow Beane must be really down on Cespedes…..he has moved backwards as a player, but he is a really big part of the fabric of the team

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Lester is from Tacoma, so that would be a little closer to home.

    Could we see a WS this year Giants vs the A’s?

    Where is Lackey going?

  • MP

    Aaaaand the sox get Cespedes. Great.

    • Y’s Guy

      well, they did get Cespedes, but they lost Lester and I dont think they’re getting him back.

      • Terry

        Good move by both parties.

        Beane is clearly going for it while the window is open, and he knows Yoenis’ defensive weaknesses and health (he is NOT 28 years old) better than anyone. He’ll also get progressively more expensive, not too much, but this is all relative to the Athletics; they’re not the Yankees.

        Whereas the Red Sox can use Yoenis in a small outfield in Fenway. He’s a relatively balanced hitter, but his greatest power is obviously to LF, perfect for Fenway.

    • Phil

      Cespedes isn’t as good as everyone thinks. He does have an amazing arm and won the HR derby, but take a look at his other hitting stats and you will get a better idea if you haven’t watched that many Atheltics games this season.

  • CountryClub

    So now, if the Sox get Lester back at the end of the year, they made a hell of a trade. And if Oakland doesn’t keep Lester, they made an awful trade, IMO.

    • Tom K

      Saying they will get Lester back is a massive assumption. They better be willing to pay market value, something they weren’t willing to do when they negotiated in spring training.

      • CountryClub

        I said “if” they get him back. Cespedes is a FA after 2015, I’d be surprised if Boston gave Lester and him long term deals. We’ll see how it plays out.

        • TC

          I think he will only be arb eligible after 2015, since his contract was only for four years. His power in that park is scary. Plus the competitive balance pick offsets the pick they forego by trading Lester. Seems like a stellar deal for Boston.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

            He has a clause in his contract that lets him become a free agent when his contract is up after next year.

            • TC

              Thanks, I didn’t realize that. Certainly makes the trade more balanced than I originally thought. I wonder if trading for Cespedes is a reflection that Boston wanted someone who was ready to play now or that teams simply wouldn’t part with elite prospects to rent an ace?

    • I’m One

      Completely agree. I don’t see Lester going back to the Sox (just my opinion), but still think the A’s made a bad deal if they don’t re-sign him. I’d rather have Cespedes at his salary for the resto of his contract than Lester for a couple of months, even with the increased chances at a WS title. Then again, I’m not an A’s fan, so maybe they value that ring more than I do.

      • mitch

        I think this is the right move for them. Their window is closing and Lester could put them over the top. Also, Cespedes secretly isn’t that great. He’s basically the Cuban Marlon Byrd.

        • The Great Gonzo

          He’s a little better than Marlon Byrd, but yeah… He’s not a world beater.

        • viridiana

          Cespedes OBP barely over .300. Strikes out quite a bit. Looks like type of player who could decline quickly. Not a bad idea for Sox to get something for Lester — but I thought they’d get more.

          • nycsportzfan

            Reminds me of Carlos Quentin.

    • The Great Gonzo

      I think Lester’s time in Boston is done.

      If they didn’t want to pay him market value (or close to it) when they were the only bidders in the room, what makes anyone think they’ll be willing to do so when 10 other teams are throwing money his way?

  • JOhn C

    WOW!! Just saw on twitter that Lester could be headed to A’s for Cespedes!. Nothing confirmed yet.

  • TripleShortOfACycle

    This is why the Sox are light years ahead of the Yankees

    • CountryClub

      If they don’t sign Lester back I’m not sure it’s a great deal. Especially since Cespedes is a FA after next year.

    • The Great Gonzo

      False. 10000% false. They boned themselves in negotiations with Lester and got lucky that Beene is getting out of the Cespedes business.

    • Scott

      Please explain that to me??!!?

    • Evan3457

      Because the Yanks didn’t have a Lester to dump because 4/5 of their rotation this year had long term injuries?

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Actually they’re like 7.5 games behind them and one of the worst teams in the AL.

  • Bob

    Cashman, sell sell sell!!! Whatever happens Yanks ain’t beating Oakland in playoffs with that rotation.

    • Kenny

      Agree. IF they’re able to keep Lester, they look unbeatable in that division for, perhaps, several years. Not that this necessarily guarantees WS visits: they have to get through the gauntlet of the play-offs for that, and the playoff hottest-team-wins syndrome.

  • The Ghost of Eric Duncan

    What the hell?? How could Beane give up Cespedes for a couple of months of Lester??

    • Terry

      The Athletics are not the Yankees, so they think in terms of constant gains and losses in replacing their players.

      Simply speaking: Cespedes is not as good as the media makes him out to be. He has defensive liabilities aside from his arm, his character is questionable, and he’s older than he claims to be.

      Meanwhile, the Athletics have a more valuable, and possibly better hitter in Stephen Vogt who is making $500k a year to Yoenis’ millions.

      And the Athletics will need room to move in a defensive wizard and speedster appropriately named Billy Burns into the outfield.

      So yes, Billy Beane knows what he’s doing.

      He’s trading Yoenis for his team’s best chance at a Championship, while building for the future, unlike the Yankees who can buy their way out of myopia.

    • Phil

      Because he really isn’t as good as everyone thinks he is. Go look at his stats.

  • mike

    i never heard Byrd was a personality problem…apparently he was a good guy in the Mets clubhouse…maybe they are worried about pissing off Ichiro?

    • mitch

      doubt it would have anything to do with Ichiro. They had no problem heading into the season with him as the 5th outfielder

    • Terry

      It’s not to say Byrd’s personality won’t play in other team’s clubhouses.

      The Reds and the Mariners, for example, are suitable landing places for Byrd’s personality, and nobody is saying that those clubhouses are entirely dysfunctional.

      But let me ask you if Byrd would have shown any class if President Bush had walked up to him and offered him a handshake before the eyes of millions, including international viewers…

      Some kinds of baseball players like top cause a scene or don’t really know how to act in those situations because they’re not used to it (this is partially why Derek gets ‘overpaid’).

      The Yankees don’t want scenes, or “edginess”, or acting out, even if it’s harmless which I’m sure Byrd is most of the time.

      Most of the Yankee clubhouse understands these groundrules.

      Would Byrd?

      Or would he consider it a violation of “Bein’ Me”.

      These are some of the questions that are entirely relevant to the world of sports business, especially to a franchise as illustrious as the Yankees.

  • ClayDavis

    You have to be kidding me. The Red Sox continually catch teams with their pants down. Over and over and over again. What’s that like?

  • Yankee Analyst

    Difficult situation for the yankees. It seems that they are far away enough from being a championship caliber team, that it does not make sense to give up significant pieces of the farm for a major upgrades. On the other hand they are close enough from the postseason that going after a fire sell seems a strategy they will not pursue.

    The result is an in between / timid strategy of looking for marginal upgrades that will probably not move the needle one way or the other. We are most likely looking at a Willingham or Danks type of upgrade and a yankees team that will probably stay in the playoffs race until the last weeks of the season but likely will not make it even to the WC game.

    The most important upgrades, if they are lucky could be Pineda and Tanaka coming back healthy from injury and pitching well for the final stretch.

    • Bret The Hitman

      In the NBA we call this a treadmill team.

  • Bronx_Boy

    Yikes, what a huge trade for the Red Sox. That guy is a new hero for the Fenway mob.

  • CR7

    Cespedes for a 2 month rental.

    Even when the Red Sox lose, they win.

  • MP

    Sox getting a competitive balance draft pick from the A’s too. Holy freakin’ hell.

  • CR7

    Same crap for the Red Sox. They get whatever they want. They sold a 2 month rental for a superstar.

    • Richmond Ron

      A superstar with a .788 career OPS?

      • BKamm

        Agreed. That’s Ellsbury territory. Definitely not a superstar.

  • Bob

    Should have done something like that with cano last year

    • CashmanNinja

      We were trying to win for Mo’s last year…same goes for Jeter…it’s not possible to sell in New York because fans won’t accept it. Even if the team only managed 60 wins in a season the fans would STILL be against selling because that’s just how Yankee fans are.

      • TripleShortOfACycle

        Red Sox fans seem to accept it just fine

      • Kenny

        This let’s-win-one-for-Mo/Jeter is the height of mawkishness. They each went into the last season of their careers with more rings than the average player can dream of. The team’s needs outranked win-one-for-M/J.

        • ClayDavis

          I keep hearing/reading that us Yankee fans would not put up with a rebuild? Who exactly are these fans? My friends all want the team to tear things down rather than have years and years of being average.

          • The Big City of Dreams

            Ppl talk about rebuilding and yes many would be ok with it but many won’t. Rebuilding yrs are tough to watch. You’re dealing with multiple losing seasons, kids your high on fail, kids you’re not high on get traded and then blossom over there, etc. You think Yankee fans would be able to go through a 5-6 yr rebuild? Better question would guys like CC, Tank, Tex, Alex, Ells, McCann, and others want to sit around and be apart of it.

        • BKamm

          Bogus stuff huh?

      • JoeyA

        I’m sorry, but this is such a horseshit response these days.

        All teams operate more intelligently and manage expectations on a year to year basis. You can’t expect to contend each and eveyr yr like the Yankees did from 96-2012 because it’s not common to produce HOF and borderline HOF players for the most important positions on the field. Posada,Jeter,Williams,Pettite,Mo CARRIED this franchise for over a decade. That’s not reproducable.

        If BOS fans are able to put up with selling like this yr, than why can’t NYY fans.

        BOS isn’t tearing it down right now by selling, they’re simply being realistic about their chances of winning this year and are making smart moves to maximize their assets and upgrade positions for the next couple years.

        It’ doesn’t have to involve trading your entire roster for a bunch of 20 and 21yr olds. Nobody is advocating becoming the MArlins

        But, come August, when your team looks like the Yankees have both this yr and last, it’s SMARTER to call it a year and put yourself in a better position for next couple years.

        What do we do? Talk about trading people for fucking John Danks and Josh Willingham.

        YUP!

        Those are the guys who are going to get us to the World Series!

        In 4 months of baseball we are barely over a .500 team, have yet to put anything remotely resembling a strecth of winning baseball together, continue looking anemic to teams like the Texas Rangers who run out no-names that shut us down,and can barely get through a week without blowing games in the field, yet our FO is delusional to think they can upgrade 3-4 positions via trade and make a run because…”fans won’t accept selling”

        Give me a fuckin’ break.

      • stuart a

        baloney. yankee fans are like others given a cogent plan to build for the future they would be for it..

        yankee fans against rebuild is NONSENSE

    • I’m One

      Are you aware that they didn’t field offers for Cano but simply didn’t like them? While we’ve heard nothing either way, that doesn’t mean other teams didn’t call with offers.

      • TripleShortOfACycle

        They had a pretty good offer from Texas

        • I’m One

          In hindsight, “pretty good” might have done it. However, at the time, the Yankees intended to at least try to re-sign him. They needed to be blown away.

  • CashmanNinja

    I wonder if the A’s would be willing to let go of Hammel now. He’s been dreadful for the A’s since they acquired him, but I don’t think he could suddenly just turn that bad after how he pitched earlier for the Cubs. I remember the Yankees were interested with him as well as Samardzija, well…he’s a pitcher who could give us some more depth and could be had for very cheap. Or maybe they’d be willing to trade Milone. I would personally want Milone because, a.) He’s a lefty , b.) he said he wants to be traded. I know he’s not exactly overpowering, but a lefty is still valuable — especially for the Yankees. He’d be a small move, but a positive one. It beats selling the farm for someone who isn’t worthy of it.

    • Terry

      The Athletics know better than to sell low.

  • CR7

    As usual, the Red Sox are smart. The Yankees are stupid. Could have sold Kuroda, Cano. He fought to finish barely above .500.

    • CashmanNinja

      Uh, where would Kuroda go? He’s nearly 40 years old, he’s clearly at the end of his career, he’s still owed a lot of money for the rest of the year, and yeah…he hasn’t been that good. You think we’d actually get something good for him? Ha. We gave up peanuts for Bobby Abreu years ago and that was when he still had something left in the tank. Kuroda would net us like a C prospect. I hate fans being delusional.

      • CR7

        Um, Kuroda was excellent last year until after the trade deadline. A front of the rotation starter, we could have gotten a couple good prospects. Talk about delusional.

        • CashmanNinja

          Kuroda also was on a 1 year deal last year so he’d be in the same position as this year except slightly better stats. He was still owed around the same amount of money, was old, and…oh yeah, he was contemplating retirement again. So it would have been a RENTAL. What would you pay for a (then) 38 year old rental? Not much. We’d have gotten a B prospect instead of a C prospect. Plus didn’t he have a no-trade clause?…

          • CountryClub

            The A’s just got a rental too. You don’t actually think they’re giving Lester a 100 mil deal, do you?

          • CR7

            So you’re saying no other team would have paid prospects for a front of the rotation 38 year old rental to try and bolster the rotation for a run at the World Series?

            OMG, a no trade clause! No player has ever waived one of those to go to a contending team…

            smh

            • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

              Kuroda refused to waive his NTC with the Dodgers to go to a contending team.

          • Terry

            Actually, Kuroda is a different kind of case.

            First: he’s not being dealt, so get that out of your mind.

            Second: The Yankees need to do well this year for a multitude of reasons, not least of which that it will encourage players like Kuroda to come back, possibly even with a discount.

            If you know Kuroda, you know that he wants nothing more than to be seen in Japan the way Hideki Matsui has; as a Yankee who took home America’s most prestigious championship on its most historic team.

            Money is a side issue for Kuroda right now, he’s working on his legacy, which means a lot to him, and can help him financially at home in more ways than one.

            But he’s only going to come back to the Yankees if he thinks they’re going to win. If the Yankees can prove they’re serious contenders this year, it’s indicative that they are going to be contenders next year. In such a case, it will be the Yankees who have negotiating leverage with Kuroda who will be only too happy to trade a few million for a Ring.

            If he doesn’t think they have a good chance of winning, retaining him just got a whole lot more expensive if not impossible.

            • stuart a

              Kuroda is 40. come back next year!!!

              no friggin thanks..

              • Terry

                Give it a rest.

                The Yankees will need starters next season and Kuroda is a more reliable bet than CC, Pineda, Nova, Whitley, and a lot of other prospects in the Yankee system.

                The value is there, and the Yankees will want it whether it’s named Kuroda or some other pitcher.

        • The Great Gonzo

          Speaking of delusional, at this time last year we were in the thick of the WC and AL East race. That is the EXACT position you want your team in when you go on a fire sale.

          Think positively for a little while. Change your outlook on life, take a walk on the beach, smell some flowers.

          • CR7

            We’re in the thick of the wild card race now too.

            Last year’s team wasn’t going anywhere just as this year’s team isn’t going anywhere. It’s obvious to anyone with half a brain.

            • CR8

              SMH, what a dumb comment.

          • clu haywood

            The thick of the race? At this time last year the yankees were a third place team, barely over .500, with a negative run differential. Oh, and 8.5 games behind the division leading Rays at the time. That’s some hell of a race.

            http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo...../july-2013

        • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

          He also had a full NTC and has shown a willingness to turn down trades in the past.

      • CountryClub

        He/She was talking about last yr. Kuroda was pitching like an ace at this point of the season.

  • Frankie Cerveddardi

    Sox did what the Yanks couldn’t do last year when they should have traded Robbie Cano. Sox got rid of their bad contracts 2 years ago and have now picked up a good young ballplayer for a pitcher they weren’t going to re-sign anyway.

    • Scott

      Cespedes isn’t exactly young. He is 28 (and that is debatable given the track record of Latin American players trying to fudge their age to get the majors quicker).

      • Terry

        He is not 28, the A’s and Sox know it, and I’m tired of repeating it.

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Cespedes might have a field day with the Green Monster?

    Looking at his splits over the Years at Fenway, albeit a small sample size, he hasn’t been that impressive.

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/.....s-cespedes

    • Terry

      His swing is conducive to it since his homerun stroke is to LF.

      As with all such hitters, the Yankee shift to the left-side of the infield will be interestingly crammed with the speed of Gardner and Brendan Ryan finally playing ‘SS’ or at least short LF.

  • JOhn C

    Yanks better go all out to sign Yasmani Tomas this offseason.

  • Frank

    Cespedes may actually break the HR record playing in Fenway. What a genius move by the RS. Even if he leaves after next season as FA, still a great move.

    • viridiana

      Cespedes will break K records before HR records. yes, he has power but holes in swing– and he’s likely to get worse rather than better.

      • mitch

        no way. Playing in Boston is just the move he needs to move from a 25-30HR guy to a 70+ HR guy

        • Scott

          You like to get high huh? If Cespedes hits 70 HRs I will come to your house and give you the keys to both of my cars.

          • Terry

            I will go to his house and give the keys to my plane if Yoenis hits 50.

            (It’s not an ignition key, it’s just the key to the cockpit door).

    • Get Phelps Up

      Yeah, he’ll break Adrian Gonzalez’s record…

    • Old Man Time

      Are you trying to win a bet on who can say the dumbest thing in the thread?

  • CR7

    “Quite the opposite of yesterday’s Orioles possibility, this is good news for the Yankees. It would take Lester out of this weekend’s series at Fenway, and it would send him to a team the Yankees won’t face again this season.”

    This is from Chad Jennings. What an idiot. How this affects the Red Sox, affects us.

    They now have a 3-4-5 of Cespedes, Ortiz, Napoli. And they’ll re-sign Lester.

    Once again, they’re the smartest organization around.

    • JOhn C

      resigning Lester is no slam dunk. There will be other suitors out there, including the Yanks to up the bidding. If the Sox wouldn’t ante up now, why would they ante up even more later?

      • CashmanNinja

        @JOhn C — you’re exactly right when saying it’s not a slam dunk. The Red Sox could have gotten him for the cheapest amount possible, but wouldn’t commit to it. Now they’d have to get involved in a bidding war and pitchers ALWAYS get their money. They probably could have had Lester for a somewhat team friendly deal, but now other teams (who obviously need pitching) are going to go all out for him. The price is instantly raised. The Red Sox probably just screwed themselves out several millions of dollars by not signing him when they had the chance.

      • The Great Gonzo

        I would say that it is more likely that the Red Sox re-sign Pedro Martinez than Jon Lester right now.

    • CashmanNinja

      How do you know they’ll re-sign Lester? The A’s seem to have more financial wiggle room now. Plus the money they were giving Cespedes now goes towards re-signing Lester. I believe he’s from the area and if the A’s offer him more than the Red Sox apparently were…he could very well stay in California. Again, how do you know it’s a rental? It’s not a rental until he leaves after the season because I doubt they made that trade for a rental. Cespedes gave them national recognition. I think they traded for Lester because *gasp* they wanted to have a lock down rotation for the next few years (I don’t view Samardzija as a rental either). The A’s actually want to win.

    • Kenny

      The Yanks’ hand-me-down staff better be fitted with kevlar uniforms when they face that murderer’s row.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

      The smartest organization around sure does have a lot of shitty years.

      • Brian Carnevale

        Exactly how I feel. Can’t take the WS wins away, but when you sandwich them around two last place, non-competitive years, doesn’t smack of smartest org around.

      • Get Phelps Up

        You’re not impressed with one playoff appearance in 5 seasons???

  • CountryClub

    Personally, I think people are overreacting to this Sox deal. If Boston signs both Cespedes and Lester long term, it’s a good deal. But if they only sign one (or neither)….eh.

    • TripleShortOfACycle

      No Lester + Cespedes > No Lester and the pick comp for losing him

    • Frank

      Disagree. Getting Cespedes for this season and next for FA to be Lester is a win for the RS. It’s not overreacting, it’s just a fact.

      • CountryClub

        I think they’d be better over the next few years with Lester than Cespedes. We’ll see how the whole thing plays out, but I think it’s far from a net positive at this point.

      • The Great Gonzo

        False. Their top two pitchers right now are an off year Bucholtz and a completely pissed off Lackey, who might also be on the move.

        Cespedes and no pitching do nothing for them this season besides give them a new wonderboy for Jery Remy to fornicate over, when he’s not thanking Joseph Abboud for the free ties.

    • mitch

      messageboard Yankees fans overreacting to a Red Sox deal? Impossible

  • nyy13

    Yankees continue their strategy of overpaying past their prime players(Ellsbury,Beltran, McCAN’t,)….

    All MLB teams are getting better prospects, getting young, while the yankees keep using guys like Soriano, Johnson, Beltran, McCan’t…

    What’s next? Are they gonna sign Bernie Williams, Tino Martinez from retirement??

    bUT…BUT…isn’t cashman fault right?? It is the fault of the fans who want to see better execution of the general manager, right??

    Also, Cashman is a genius!!

    • Long-Past-His-Day-Rod

      Lol.

      Ellsbury and McCann “past their prime” at the ripe old age of 30?

      ALL other MLB teams are “getting better prospects, getting young” while the Yanks are only interested in old guys?

      Is the 13 in your handle your age, the number of joints you smoked before posting this, or the number of brain cells you have left?

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      “What’s next? Are they gonna sign Bernie Williams, Tino Martinez…”
      ^ nyy13 will be at the open mic night in Sunnyside from 10:15-10:25, try the fried raviolis folks.

  • SweetSpot

    Billy Bean is a terrific GM. They are going for it all and he’s probably not done getting some offense.

  • Reggie C.

    This move allows Cherington to go all in on the Max Scherzer sweepstakes and have it go over smoother with the fan base as Lester is no longer on that roster. Will Cherington be able to get Scherzer? If the RS next move is a Lackey trade then I imagine they’ll have freed enough off the books to pretty much make Scherzer the next 200 million free agent.

    Oh yeah … the Athletics better get out of the first round this year!

    • The Great Gonzo

      Again, false. Lackey has nothing to do this season with Scherzer next season. He had a team option for $500k in 2015. Now they will potentially have two holes to fill in a rotation anchored by Ruby De La Fucking Rosa and Clay Bucholtz who cant stay healthy.

      Scherzer doesnt fix their massive issues. One pitcher and Cespedes doesn’t punch their ticket to October. In 2015 they will need a closer, 3 SPs, and a miracle in the way of Bradley/Boegarts/Middlebrooks/Pedroia/Victorino not sucking again.

      DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE

      • viridiana

        Yeah, and Ortiz — no matter how he’s stayed ahead of PED police — is pushing 40.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Why would they be willing to pay Scherzer and not Lester?

      • mt

        I agree with you – Scherzer already rejected that 6 year offer for $144 million from his own team so he can get more money in FA so why would Sox pay Scherzer north of that when they could have gotten Lester for less (I think Lester would have signed with Sox earlier this year for 5 yaesr at $110 million or something.). Also Scherzer will Have QO attached to him while Lester will not (Lester also has longer period of success and also there is the sentimental factor of winning two World Series for Boston.)

  • Reggie C.

    Tbh, I’d rather the Red Sox get Cespedes than say Addison Russell, who was traded for an inferior starter.

    Lester, Kazmir, Jeff Samardzija, Sonny Gray … yeezus.

    • The Great Gonzo

      That is a rotation from hell.

  • josh0909

    Lester is probably going to get overpaid big time. He’s a legit number 1 starter with zero QP attached to him. I just don’t like the idea of signing any pitcher past 30 to big money deals.

  • CR7

    The Red Sox are getting Max Scherzer.

    • Scott

      Are you his agent?

    • Old Man Time

      Please go back to Over the Monster with your Sox buddies.

  • Kenny

    The Yankees are not working on anything huge at the moment. Their focus is on upgrading in right field and adding depth to the bullpen and pitching staff.

    “If He didn’t want them sheared, He wouldn’t have made them sheep.” [line from an old movie]

    • Bret The Hitman

      So glad I fell back asleep early this morning.

  • JoeyA

    I love people saying that this helps the Yankees by getting Lester out of the division.

    As if BOS, or any other team for that matter, can’t just throw anyone in there and they would have a chance to shut down this offense.’

    This team is not a realistic contender.

    Everyone knows it but the one guy who needs to.

    • CR7

      Sadly, the guy who needs to know it has no clue how to stay away from psychotic hookers, let alone run a baseball team.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Why would he “need” to know this?

    • Evan3457

      Why do you assume the mandate to try to contend every year, and to never sell-off, comes from the GM?

      • JoeyA

        Because there are ways to make smart trades and contend while being realistic about your team.

        case in point” Billy Beane

        He just traded one of his top outfielders in a year they are heavy favorites for WS.

        You think BOS is doing this and saying “we arent contending again until 2017?”

        These are smart moves by Cherington, Mozeliak, and Beane to upgrade their teams while not mortgaging the future and yet, still not going into full fire sale rebuilding mode.

  • johnnycomelately

    Cespedes commin to town juuust in time to face the yanks. NBD

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      …and Lester leaves just in time to miss them.

      • Terry

        If Cespedes is up, the Yankees really need to shift the infield to the left.

        The guy is a groundball machine to that side. Heck, with Gardner in LF in Fenway, Yoenis either hits the ball at/over the Green Monster, or he’s Out.

  • SweetSpot

    Bad news for the Yankees for sure. Cespedes in Fenway as a right-handed bat with his arm as a bonus in a short left-field for the next ten years. Good grief.

    • 72′ Yankees

      Figure they’ll stick him in RF, right? Would be a waste of his arm in LF.

    • CountryClub

      His arm is wasted in LF in that park.

      • SweetSpot

        True that. With that arm Yawkey Way or Landsdowne Street might make sense as well.

    • The Great Gonzo

      TEN years? Where did you get the other 8.5 years from?

    • Scott

      10 years? He is a FA after next year.

  • Mike

    MLB clubs continue to bend over for the Red Sox. I hope we sign both Lester and Scherzer in free agency and screw them over.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Bend over? They received Jon Lester.

      • TripleShortOfACycle

        How many top teams give up an all star to acquire a top tier talent at the deadline. They usually give up prospects

        • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

          Not saying it’s ideal for us, but simply put, the A’s just got better.

          That’s not bending over.

        • Evan3457

          The A’s didn’t have any top prospects. Vogt is hitting a ton this year in limiited playing time, and will likely do a good job in replacing Cespedis in the lineup, but he’s 29 already.

  • mt

    All I can say is WOW! I always thought they’d get some major league ready top prospects but Cespedes – wow.

    I know Sox this year are further behind the AL east lead and the wild card than we were at same time last year but damn – getting Cespedes is such a coup – makes me wonder – I had always been against trading Cano last year but this now makes me think.

    One could argue that Cano should have been easier to trade last year than Lester this year since Cano never gave feelings that he might do a slight discount or let his “lifetime love for Yankees” influence his decision – he was going to go with the best money offer anyway whether it was from Yankees or anybody else. So Yanks could have made the trade for cost-controllable players completely confident that it would not cost them anything more than necessary on Cano’s contract – if they really wanted Cano back. They would have been able to get him by paying the price they would have to pay anyway even if they had kept him – that is, the highest price (I ultimately agree with letting Cano walk at 10 year but that is not the point I am making. I am focusing on facing cold, hard reality and maximizing your assets.)

    Here Red Sox at least have to worry that, assuming Lester is not going to necessarily demand the absolute highest bid from Red Sox (since he loves it so much there) and is letting factors other than money possibly influence the decsion (his love for Boston) he may also put “love for As” in that category as a decision factor, especially if As win a World Series.

    I guess last year Mo’s last season and “Yanks never sell” got in the way.

    Also we don’t know whether Red Sox have absolutely no desire to sign Lester at anywhere close to to a maximum Scherzer type contract so they may be blowing smoke up everybody’s butt about wanting to sign him as a FA this off-season. They may be just so happy to cash him out now and run away with Cespedes in their goody bag (although they can never admit that to their fans). Sox gave a hint by never coming off what I consider an embarassing offer (the $70 million for 4 years, I think) before trading him.

    I am not sure as a Yankee fan I can take the worst to first and back again pendulum Sox have done but Sox know their fans will forget this year quickly if they win the next few years (and they have 3 titles in 10 years in their back pocket as good will that will last a long time.) I am not sure Sox fans talk a lot about Bobby Valentine and 2012 anymore.

    I also must add I do not get sentimental as a fan about value of stuff like Cano possibly having been a lifetime Yankee – I want to win with whatever players we have. (It would not have bothered me if Jeter played for another team, for example.)

    • Scott

      Billy Beane is a very good GM (I do believe he is overhyped but a very good GM nonetheless). If they are trading Cespedes, there might be a reason and it may not be just to go for the WS win this year. I can’t see Beane giving away Cespedes for a rental pitcher without knowing something else.

      Lets see how this plays out before we declare the RS the smartest team in history and annoint them the WS winners the next 3 years because they suddenly got Cespedes.

    • Phil

      Cespedes is not as good as you make him out to be.

  • http://Riveravenlues Austinmac

    We are further back than a week ago with the season slipping away. Yet, the team’s focus is marginal upgrades for players gone after this year. Short sighted as usual.

    • CR7

      ain’t that the truth.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      What do you suggest?

      • CR7

        Selling Robertson. Trying to sell Beltran and eating $5 mil to some delusional team that wants his clutch postseason hitting. Selling McCarthy. Sell Ryan to some delusional team that wants a utility IF for defense.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

          Beltran has no trade value right now only eating $5M. Maybe if they eat $25M.
          They got McCarthy for Nuno. How much do you think they are getting back?
          Robertson is the only one on that list with any potential value.

        • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

          Lol. Relievers don’t net much. Not soon to be FA ones. McCarthy would get us nothing. No one is trading for Beltran or Ryan. Not a chance.

          Do better.

          • CR7

            You just sell Ryan to be rid of his contract. They could get organizational filler for McCarthy. So eat 10 mil or 15 mil and be rid of Beltran. He’s shot & some team is delusional enough to want his postseason hitting.

            • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

              They’d have to eat his contract to trade Ryan. No one is trading for Beltran. Not a chance in hell. Get that out of your mind. And you want to trade McCarthy for org guys? Who cares? That does nothing from a competitve standpoint.

            • Old Man Time

              Sorry, but this is just stupid. Sell just for organizational filler? Serves no purpose other than letting you shout “sell” on a blog.

    • Roy Munson

      Perfectly Said. They are turning into the mid-2000 Knicks. Killing themselves to stay relevant. So stupid

    • coney1

      What do you expect? This team is run by an owner more interested in hotels, an idiot attorney, and a tenured GM who is more concerned with scaling buildings and banging ugly chicks.

    • TripleShortOfACycle

      You want them to give up the few elite prospects they have?

    • CountryClub

      Actually, short sighted would be giving up the farm for big trades.

    • Scott

      Would you rather they traded away all their prospects for Lee? I think the Yanks are being smart. They know they aren’t going to win it this year. They are making the small marginal moves to remain competitive without giving up anything significant. They are getting rental players so they can dump them after this season and move forward with some younger guys next year.

      Not to mention trades in the off-season are much cheaper in terms of the exchanges then they are during the season. So Cashman can work some trades next season using some of the prospects he is saving right now.

      The Yanks have too many holes to sell of 5-7 good prospects and get into WS contention. They have a plan, no one wants to see it because most fans either want a fire sale or a “play the kids right now” Maybe playing the kids actually hurts their development instead of helping them. You can make marginal upgrades this year while focusing on next year.

    • Bret The Hitman

      C’mon mac this is a rerun we’ve watched how many times?

  • Missing Cano

    No way are the Sox going after Mad Max UNLESS they finish in the top 10 (next year 11) of the protected draft picks. They are NOT going sacrifice their first round pick and more importantly that draft pool money for a long term 7 year contract for an approaching 30 year old pitcher who averages 6 IP a start.

    • CR7

      they are finishing in the bottom 10 of MLB.

      • Missing Cano

        Even so, they are NOT giving 7 years to a pitcher like Mad Max. It goes against the way they do things with shorter contract preferably no longer than 5 years. Not happening.

  • Richie Rich

    The Yankees should have been sellers at the deadline. Why not sell Robertson, Betances, etc., for major prospects given that the team has little shot of making the playoffs (it’s not like they can’t simply overpay Robertson at the end of the season when he is a free agent, which they will do anyway). Because Cashman and his apologists support a policy of targeting salary dumps in trades and overpaid vets via free agency. And the team simply gets older, more brittle, and mediocre…

    • mitch

      because nobody is giving you major prospects for relief pitchers

  • TWTR

    We suck.

    • Old Man Time

      If by “we” you mean all the posters knob-slobbering the Sox, then yes, you suck.

  • The Great Gonzo

    Goddammit. The Red Sox make one move and you all lose your fucking minds. May MO have mercy on all your souls.

    • TWTR

      It is called facing reality. They made the kind of move the Yankees should have been making for the last few years.

    • Scott

      +1
      TY for your sanity. If you were a suicide counselor today you could make millions talking people off the ledge.

      The Sox make one trade and suddenly they are WS contenders and the Yanks are never going to win again in the future of baseball. THE SKY IS FALLING, TAKE COVER.

  • SweetSpot

    So smart of the Red Sox; they deal away two players with only two months of team control left and get a 28 year old star for the next ten years. And, they get a shot at getting Lester back later this year.

    • TWTR

      They are and there is no other reasonable way to look at it.

      Wake the fuck up, Hal.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      10 years? He’s a free agent after next year.

      • SweetSpot

        Right. And I am sure the Sox knew that and have every intention of re-signing him. They are not winning now; this was done to re-build the team for the future.

        • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

          They can intend whatever they want. Until it happens, they just have next year with him.

    • CountryClub

      Cespedes is going to want a huge deal. Boston has shied away from that model in recent years. Not so sure they keep Cespedes.

      • TWTR

        Investing in hitters is a lot safer than investing in pitchers.

        • Scott

          Which, if Lackey is traded the Sox have none of next year (pitchers). They may hit the crap out of the ball next year but they will be playing plenty of 12-10 games, lots of scoring for both teams.

        • Chip

          Said Carl Crawford’s agent

          • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

            Eh, that was more of a speed investment and those are not good.

    • TripleShortOfACycle

      Interesting how on LoHud you downplayed other teams moves while always praising the Yankees. Now you are waxing poetic for the Sox

      • SweetSpot

        Waxing poetic? I think the A’s and Sox pulled of a mutually beneficial deal that benefits both teams. I wish we had Lester or Cespedes don’t you? It’s called analysis and opinion.

    • viridiana

      Actually, they get a 28 yr old in decline for just i yr and two months. And if Cespedes proves me wrong and gets better rather than worse they’ll have to pay thru the nose when he’s 30 to keep him. Sox did the right thing to get something for Lester. But Cespedes is no cure-all for team with little beyond untested young pitching prospects and a 38 yr old PED bully nearing the end.

    • Terry

      He is not 28 years old and both the Athletics and the Red Sox know this.

  • Paisa

    Another great deal by Billy Beane. He may not have the best pedigree when it comes to building a system but he almost always comes out on top of deals.

    Cespedes is a fa after next year so the a’s were going to be forced to trade him after the season. Essentially this trade becomes a rental for a rental kind of deal where the a’s get back the guy who is easily the best player involved and a guy who can do everything that cespedes does at the plate in Gomes.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Right on. Lot’s of people seem to be missing that here. Hell of a deal by Beane.

      • TWTR

        Not really. Beane made a good deal for a small revenue team. The Sox made a good one for a large revenue team.

        • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

          What? How do markets matter in this? Oakland got better. They traded less than a year and a half of Cespedes for a stud ace in the stretch of a playoff race.

          • TWTR

            Because Oakland knows they can’t re-sign Cepedes, so they are all-in this year. A team with their payroll gets very few chances to win a WS.

            Boston, otoh, has the money to sign any player the Yankees or the Dodgers don’t set records to sign.

            So they can offer Cespedes really big buck before he reaches free agency (I would be shocked if they don’t), and even re-sign Lester.

            • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

              “Boston, otoh, has the money to sign any player the Yankees or the Dodgers don’t set records to sign.”

              Do they? Because they just traded their ace bc of concerns about re-signing him.

              If you could have either of them for more than this year, you’d still take what Oakland received. Regardless of market, Beane made a hell of a deal. If it were the Dodgers or Yankees making that deal, it would be just as good. So market isn’t relevant.

    • Farewell Mo

      Great trade by the Sox. The get a year and 2 months of Cespedes at a great salary in a park where he could be just beastly for 2 months of Lester in a year they’re going no where and they can still bring back Lester in the offseason.

      Gotta give it to Cherington. He pulled off a miracle with Crawford/Agon and now made another great trade coming off a WS championship with a loaded farm system

      • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

        That’s all based on Lester coming back. If he does, then yeah nice deal by Boston. If the more likely outcome comes about and he doesn’t, then they’ve downgraded.

        If they don’t want to pay him now, why would they in a few months?

        • Farewell Mo

          Even if he doesn’t come back, you think a team is gonna trade top prospects for 2 months of Lester? I don’t.

          Now the Sox have a player who could be a major force next year for a player who they weren’t gonna resign anyway.

          Sox aren’t going through a major rebuilt, they’re gonna reload and compete next year

          • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

            Well they weren’t going to retain him and lose him for nothing. They’re too far out to do that, so given the options of retaining Lester or adding Cespedes, I’d much rather see them get Cespedes.

            • Farewell Mo

              IMO, it’s win/win for the Sox.

              If they resign Lester, they got a year of Cespedes for nothing at a cheap salary.

              If they don’t resign Lester, they got a player who will be a major contributor for next year, no uncertainty about a prospect flaming out, and they already have plenty of young prospects to work in.

              • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

                So the only way they could have lost was too retain Lester and not re-sign him?

                That was never reasonably going to happen given their place in the standings.

                If they re-sign him that’s one thing, but as of now, they’ve downgraded.

      • iYankees

        Trade for the Red Sox is terrible. You have to look at what they could have gotten and I think they could have gotten a lot more from another team. High-level prospects that could have contributed for years rather than a 1.5-year rental of Cespedes. Wow.

    • Missing Cano

      +1 Plus he can trade Jeff S this offseason and recoup some prospects/players. I still think though he is going to miss Bill McKinney down the road.

    • JLC 776

      Great summary. People seem to be reacting like the Sox just got the second-coming of Manny Ramirez under team control for 10 years…

      • Paisa

        That’s the thing. Cespedes is ultra talented and definitely useful, but also a sub 3 obp kind of hitter.

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Too many Yankee NTC’s, aging players to get a big deal done if the GM wants a difference maker. Other teams might have interest in Gardner, Robertson and Betances, if they are giving up a marquee offensive player or pitcher.

    The Yankees best hope will be a 100% cured right UCL with Tanaka pitching in a few weeks, and a healthy Pineda with velocity.

    • TWTR

      Cano didn’t have one. Neither did Granderson. Neither does Robertson.

  • Missing Cano

    More worried if Cespedes was 23-24 with four more years of club control. He is one more year of control, MLPA is pushing the offensive guys to go to the market now, he will want to get paid, and it will be a huge market for guys that can hit 25 HRs. Sox should have gotten good prospects with longterm control. Cubs did MUCH better with their deal with the A’s.

  • Christ is King

    Guys, why doesnt Lester cost a draft pick?

    • CountryClub

      Because the A’s traded for him mid year, they can’t give him the qualifying offer. So no pick.

  • SweetSpot

    The Yankees will never be sellers; it’s not in their DNA to do so. Being a seller often leads to multiple years of mediocrity with no guaranty the prospects you get will pan out and that won’t fly in NY in my opinion. I also think as good as they are, Yankee fans somewhat overvalue Robertson and Betances as far as their trade value is concerned and the return would not be what many think it would be.

  • hey now

    Pete Abe brings up a good point: With no draft pick tied to him now, the market for Lester is going to go through the roof.

    Lester can say he’d take less to sign with Bos, but when some team puts a $130M offer in front of him that goes out the window.

  • Missing Cano

    Jack Curry ? @JackCurryYES
    Lester was braced for this and quotes made it sound like a reunion w/ Red Sox is very possible. He and Cespedes might be teammates in 2015.

    • TWTR

      They could have it the same thing with Cano. They could do it now with Roberston.

      Shit happens along the way, but you have to recognize good moves.

      • Old Man Time

        Except Cano said if he was traded he wouldn’t come back.

  • Dan A.

    Hard not to see how the A’s didn’t win that trade (especially with Cespedes being able to opt out after next year). I doubt Lester going back to Boston (they never would have done this trade if they were going to come close to the asking price).

    I’m all in on the Yankees signing Lester next year. No draft pick compensation! The bidding could get really high. Imagine a rotation of Tanaka/Lester/Nova/Pineda/CC/Phelps/Greene. Obviously there are injury questions, but it’s hard to see the rotation getting hit by Murphy’s law 2 years in a row. It could be downright dominant.

    • Paisa

      I am interested in bringing in Lester too. Have been for a while. He’s a prefect fit here and if Tanaka is not going to pitch next year then they really need him. But now, without the pick attached and his value blowing up, you’re probably going to have to go at least 7 years maybe 8 and that concerns me.

      • Dan A.

        7/8 years would be bad, but remember the Yanks will have a lot of bad contracts off the books before that deal goes bad. CC/Tex/A-Rod will all be gone.

        They can afford to have him be a back end starter for the last 2 years.

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Jonny Gomes and Lester for Cespedes.

    Just my opinion, but could Lester get the big bucks to return home, and sign with the Mariners, or resign with the A’s if they win the WS?

    • Missing Cano

      I doubt the A’s. Mariners are an interesting possibility, but I am unsure whether they have the pockets to go back-to-back offseason splurges. Depends. I think it could be a bidding war between the Yanks, Sox (who will appeal to his heart and slight discount), and the proverbial mystery team. I strongly suspect Tanaka is done until 2016, and the Yanks will see Lester as the lefty they have been looking for to replace Andy/C.C. and that lefty lineage.

  • Missing Cano

    Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1
    Cespedes language: If new pact not agreed to by later of 10/31/15 or 5 days following club’s last gm in ’15, player released #RedSox

    so i guess they do not even receive any draft pick comp for him if he bolts after ’15 if so that is awful

  • Joe C

    This deal could well turn out to be a disaster for the Athletics, especially if they don’t win the World Series and Cespedes has a hall of fame career with the Sox. If that the Billy Beane’s entire reputaion is shot.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      He’s like 29 and not on his way to the Hall of Fame.

    • Old Man Time

      Hall of Fame…hahaha! My god, the idiots are in full force today.

  • trollhunter

    Cashman should have sold Cano last year and should sell anyone he can this year. I hate the fact that the Yankees are to stupid to realize when they are out of the race.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Who are they selling? That’s the problem. A reliever in DRob? A #4ish starter in Kuroda?

      They don’t have the goods to bring much back.

      • TWTR

        The Angels gave up two top prospects for Street. That means Robertson would bring a lot back.

        • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

          No it doesn’t. The Angels traded for a year and a half of Street. Not two months.

          • TWTR

            But he isn’t in Robertson’s universe. Look what Oakland just gave up for two months of Lester. We aren’t getting Cespedes for a reliever, but there is no reason to think they can’t get a lot back.

            • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

              Isn’t in his universe? His ERA is under 1. He’s been awesome.

              The Lester trade couldn’t be less relevant to this argument. A stud ace is worth a huge amount more than any reliever. Apples to oranges.

        • Evan3457

          The Angels traded four prosects for Street, only one of which was regarded as significant and not regarded as a top propect

          “Lindsey, the top-rated prospect in the weak Angels system, has the potential for plus hittability, thanks to above-average bat speed…He’s a hit-first prospect, meaning he doesn’t possess above-average peripheral tools, like power and defense. But Lindsey could become a solid big-league contributor at the keystone if the Padres give him a little more time to marinate.”

    • TWTR

      I don’t like Cashman, but ownership has to be on board with these moves, and it seems like they are not.

      • SweetSpot

        That’s the problem criticizing Cashman without knowing what part Hal and Levine played in any particular yay or nay. The Yankees are pretty close-mouthed most of the time.

        • TWTR

          True, but he keeps taking their money, so it’s on him too.

          That said, if they wanted to be bold, he would do that.

    • Dan A.

      I think the situation between the Yanks last year and Boston this year are different enough to justify what they did. The Yanks were decidedly in the race at the deadline last year. And if not for Jack Z. getting really high after WA legalized it, the Yanks probably would have been the top bidder for Cano and still have him in pinstripes. It doesn’t seem like Boston is offering anything reasonably close to Lester’s market value at the moment.

    • CountryClub

      Selling players last yr was never in Cashman’s control. Ownership would never allow that and they said as much publicly.

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Per Passan

    Gomes, Lester and $ for Cespedes and second pick the competitive balance Comp B round.

  • McCant

    According to baseball reference Cespedes can’t be FA until 2018. What happens when team gives contract before FA years? After contract are they still under team control? Seems a bit confusing as they gave him that four year deal in year two. He will destroy balls over monster and Papi will groom him to be the new Papi. Great. I agree about real Yankee fans being OK with rebuild and being sellers. It’s the damn corporates and bandwagon yahoos who want a winner every year. They don’t get that you have to take a hit every once in a while to properly reload. Here’s hoping for Hamels…..

  • Mike HC

    Can a trade be bad for both teams? Because the Lester/Cespedes trade just might be. Boston traded their ace for essentially one season of Cespedes? And someone should tell Oakland when you are loading up at the deadline to make a WS push, you don’t trade away one of your best hitters.

    • Missing Cano

      it is now being thrown around that beane will move his surplus pitching for a bat or two they have about 7-8 starters heck hammels is now in the bullpen

      • Mike HC

        In that case, I will reserve judgment on this move until Beane is done wheeling and dealing. That does make sense though. Hopefully the Yanks can snag some of that excess pitching.

        Still a head scratcher from Boston’s end, unless they really weren’t getting offered any prospects they liked. In that case, grabbing Cespedes is better than just letting him walk at the end of the year.

        • Mike HC

          Now they moved Milone for Sam Fulds?

          1) The Yanks couldn’t or didn’t want to beat that offer?

          2) Looks to me like Oakland is running in circles with these moves.

          • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

            1) No actually. I’m sure Oak was looking for OF help now and Fuld is better than an OF we have taht isn’t Gardner or Elsbury.

            2) You need you eyes checked.

            • Mike HC

              1) Gotya. I don’t really know Fuld as a player all that much, hence why I was asking the questions.

              2) I think it is a bit counterproductive to trade one of your best hitters to fortify your pitching. I liked the Russell for Samardzija trade because they were going all in this year and Russel was not going to help them. Cespedes was a major part of the team and while Lester might be better, they are losing a lot too.

              • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

                When the pitcher is far superior to the hitter, it’s worth it. They score a ton of runs. People haven’t realized that they actually traded from a strength.

  • JLC 776

    Cespedes and Ortiz can give each other bat-flipping advice: http://www.sbnation.com/lookit.....-derby-too

  • CR7

    Just sell High Socks for Hope.

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Which Philly contract will Cashman have to take when he trades very little for Marlon Byrd?

    Jonathan Papelbon- now facing Yoenis Cespedes with the bases loaded and the Yankees leading 4-2, two outs in the 8th, tomorrow night against Boston!

    • Evan3457

      Papelbon has said he’ll refuse a trade unless it’s to a team where he can close.

      Now, if they trade for him, and then trade Robertson for a good prospect or two…

      But no, the Yanks aren’t doing that.

  • Kosmo

    if NY can add a righthanded hitter and SP under team control for 2+ years then I would think it´s a step in the right direction.
    Yanks can improve now with an eye on next year.
    As it stands NY is an 83-86 win team for 2014 which would be something of a minor miracle giving the fact they lost 4/5 a rotation + Beltran and McCann haven´t exactly been setting the world on fire.

    The Yanks have done surprisingly well given the circumstances.

    • Bubba

      I couldn’t agree more with this. I think this tends to get lost in the noise.

      • Scott

        +1 and +2 for both your comments. At least some people have reasonable outlooks.

  • Missing Cano

    Here are some ugly and disturbing facts.

    Xander and Jackie Bradley not necessarily doing it this year has hurt the Sox more than anything.

    Pressure now is on the likes of Webster, Workman, Ruby, Owens, and company to step up.

    Sox are more likely to trade and resign Andrew Miller than Lester

    indictment of Sox farm for lack of power

    what would have been the return if the Sox actually had some brains when it looked Lester would not resign before hitting FA in ST

    • Missing Cano

      Follow up question. Sox would not pony 155 and 7 years for Ellsbury, will they do the same (or possibly more) for Cespedes, the going market for top OFers.

      • Kosmo

        This offseason the Red Sox will make an offer for Tulo the Rockies can´t refuse.

        • CountryClub

          good.

        • Scott

          So could the Yankees.

          • Kosmo

            This offseason the Rocks will probably listen in to offers for Tulo. They´re reported to be interested in near ready MLB SP. The Red Sox can offer 2 or 3 SP prospects and include Boegarts. I wonder what NY has to offer in the upper levels besides Severino ?

      • Paisa

        Cespedes won’t get that.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

          Agree, but I would have said the same thing about Ellsbury.

  • CountryClub

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 2m
    #phillies said to put huge price tag on marlon byrd.

    —–

    That team is delusional.

    • TripleShortOfACycle

      Yet they traded Pence for next to nothing

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      “That team is delusional.”

      Yes, they are.

  • Missing Cano

    Beane going for offense pieces possibly it is beginning man he is GOOD

    The Twins have acquired lefty Tommy Milone from the A’s, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (Twitter link).

    • stuart a

      milone fo rwhittingham?

      good move for Minny. Cost controlled nice lefty…

  • Missing Cano

    The Astros are “very busy” taking calls on righty Jarred Cosart, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Houston has taken lefty Dallas Keuchel off the market, however, though it always seemed a longshot for him to be dealt.

  • Pinedamaybegreata (formerly Monterowasdinero)

    Sox starting pitching truly awful so they are no threat to us compared to O’s, Jays, Rays. I have a feeling A’s will not get to series now that post season expectations have gone WAY up. Are we still hot on Castillo? He could be our Cespedes (who should have a monster contract year at Fenway next year)…

  • JKatlak

    Boy the A’s are doing the Angels and Tigers a favor in my opinion. Sure they get Lester along with the rest of the rotation they have, but now I see them as even more likely go out against the Tigers or Angels in the playoffs. I think the A’s will hit miserably in the playoffs despite being first in runs scored and the Angels and Tigers will go at in the ALCS. Expect to see Oakland massively disappoint in the playoffs with a lot of 2-1 and 3-2 losses even with their pitching staff. If it came to down to playing Oakland vs. LA/Det I’d take playing Oakland all day. As long as I got a lineup like LA/Det I don’t fear Oakland hitting my pitching staff at all whatsoever.

  • McCant

    Cashman usually pulls something out of his ass that no one saw coming instead of the obvious like Byrd. Stay tuned….

  • stuart a

    yanks have many players they could trade and get a nice haul back; gardner, Robertson, betances, they can trade cervelli or jr murphy, and others.

    the difference is the yanks are deluded to think they can make the playoffs…I bet they do almost nothing, more incremental moves.

    my incrememntatl moves are dfa ichiro and Roberts and call up refsnyder and pirella and see what they have…………..

  • Missing Cano

    Lester is money in the postseason, he does not rely on his cutter anymore as much, he would be transformative for the Yanks in the way Lee would have been after the 2010 season.

  • TheRealGreg

    I think its a fair deal for both sides. A’s are going for it all and Lester certainly helps them. Gomes is also a nice piece of the bench.

    Cespedes is a nice piece for the Red Sox, but he does not have patience at the plate.

    That move alone is not going to make them champions again.

    • TWTR

      No one move ever does. It’s an incremental process.

      Getting an non-roidal power hitter is huge now, and he is under 30.

      • TheRealGreg

        He’s a good player. He’s not Manny Ramirez. His OBP this year is in the low .300s

        • TWTR

          Manny is irrelevant, and he was a roider.

          It’s a different universe post-PED.

          True power is the scarcest commodity in MLB.

          • CashmanNinja

            Then by your standards Peter O’Brien should be a top 50 prospect, but he’s not… Power is great, but home run or nothing hitters are pretty annoying. Tex is one of those now. Adam Dunn is one of those. It’s nice to get the long ball, but if that’s ALL they do then what’s the point? An OBP just over .300 isn’t very good for a power hitter — especially since it means they strike out A LOT.

            People act like Cespedes is so much better than Lester. I’ll go with the lefty ace who has a few rings on his hands over the power hitter who strikes out a lot and takes bad routes to balls (and is lucky to be bailed out by a canon arm…which is wasted in LF in Fenway). Oh, and Cespedes’ WAR was only 2.3; I’ll go with Lester’s 4.6, thank you very much.

            • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

              “People act like Cespedes is so much better than Lester.”

              Exactly. He’s not. He’s a signifcantly lesser player.

    • Missing Cano

      I guess I just do not know why they did not go Allen Craig and Marco Gonazles or Kaminsky from the Cardinals smh

  • stuart a

    boston did ok… cespedas is a nice player. about 6 feet tall at most overly muscular and supposedly 28 years old…

    he is far from a dominating player. a good player but dominating nah…

    on lester going back to boston.. do not count on it, he wil lgo to the place that gives him the most $$$$$$$$$$$$$. whoever signs lester and sherzer will regret the signing half way thru the contract.they always do….

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      +1

      Finally a sensible outlook.

    • Terry

      I approve of this message.

      What is it doing in this swill of insanity and panic?

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/.....s-cespedes

    Look at Cespedes’ 2014 and prior Fenway stats- small sample size but not very impressive. Of course now he’ll be sandwiched between Ortiz and Napoli

    • Terry

      Repeating:

      His swing is conducive to it since his homerun stroke is to LF.

      As with all such hitters, the Yankee shift to the left-side of the infield will be interestingly crammed with the speed of Gardner and Brendan Ryan finally playing ‘SS’ or at least short LF.

  • Christ is King

    Millone for Fuld who was DFA’d by Oakland earlier this season… I dont get it… Did Cashman get in his ear?

    • stuart a

      now Millone is a guy I would like. legit pitcher, gets guys out. younger and cheap.

      beane missed on this 1…that is an incremental move the yanks should have made….

      • CashmanNinja

        And he’s a lefty. I wanted Milone pretty badly, but maybe Oakland just didn’t want to help the Yankees out. That’s always possible.

  • Missing Cano

    The Phillies’ asking price for Byrd is extremely high, according to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. He says the Phillies gave the Mariners a list of three good prospects and suggested the Ms pick two of them. That request, plus Byrd’s no-trade protection, “seemed to scuttle things” between the two clubs. ESPN’s Jayson Stark tweeted yesterday that the Mariners were out on Byrd.

    • Pinedamaybegreata (formerly Monterowasdinero)

      Wonder if you know who was on that list….

      • Missing Cano

        My guess Taylor the SS was on there and the Mariners probably went nuts when they saw it.

  • http://Riveravenlues Austinmac

    I don’t want to give up anything for a player who will be gone in October. Trade a catcher for a young position player.

  • Comet

    The Yankees missed out on Tommy Milone.

    • TheRealGreg

      Pitching has not exactly been a mjor problem. Besides he kind of fits the mold of a Twins pitcher

    • Patrick

      He would have been a good get for the Yankees but they didn’t really have what Oakland wanted – a 4th outfielder type that can play CF.

  • viridiana

    Sox have basically kicked the can down the road. Much too much hysteria over deal for .300 OBP hitter who will be free agent after next year. What will Sox– that have virtually no proven pitching left — do next July as Cespedes agents view $100 million plus contract? My guess is they’ll be looking to trade him. And I don’t think he’ll be as valuable a chip as 2014 Jon Lester.
    Yes, Boston is going about things in the best possible way to rebuild. But they’re far from there. And I thought they would do much better trading Lester. Now they don’t have him.

    • Missing Cano

      Agree. I thought they would come out with players that were much more under control. I actually liked some of the names the Pirates were throwing around for them, and I think they could have done better dealing him to the Cardinals, who turned to Justin Masterson. I think Cherrington overplayed it a little and the Cardinals turning to Masterson was a huge blow to him yesterday.

  • King George

    Lost in all this, Oakland may have the best chance to win it all, BUT they’ve also mortgaged their entire future for this season. Talk about small windows.

    Samardzija – FA after 2015
    Lester – FA after 2014
    Lowrie – FA after 2014

    Cespedes traded away
    1st rd pick Billy McKinney traded away
    Top prospect Addison Russell traded away
    Cost-controlled SP Dan Straily traded away
    1st rd competitive balance pick traded away

    They have traded away some of the key building blocks to their future for essentially rentals in a 2014 World Series run. As Jack Curry noted, Oakland’s window is open very briefly and could shut as early as next season. With the departure of Lester and the trading away of Straily, Cespedes, and Russell…not good for the future despite going all-in.

    • Missing Cano

      Very true, but I do think Beane will try to flip Samardzjia at the winter meetings where more teams are involved than the trade deadline and recoup some lost assets plus Parker comes back next year from TJ surgery so that is almost like its own addition

      • King George

        I have a hard time believing that Beane will get anything equal to or of comparable value for Russell and Straily if he were to part ways with Samardzija over the offseason. Nobody will give up that type of value for a pitcher who openly stated he has no interest in signing an extension and wants to test free agency.

    • Terry

      In all seriousness, I’m not certain the damage to the A’s is that bad.

      On another note, though, I wonder how much of this has to do with Billy Beane wanting a Championship before he calls it a career;Yes, he’s only in his 50s, but he’s had 3 decades in baseball and never gotten a World Series Championship. The closest he ever came was in 1989 as a player but he was left off the roster and didn’t qualify for a Ring.

      And he definitely doesn’t want to push the limits of his luck (or his lifetime) the way Gabe Paul did.

      It has to eat him to be so close and never taste it.

      • King George

        I agree that the drive and desire to get a ring is huge for Beane. But I do think this takes a huge hit into the prospect pool and future prognosis.

  • Missing Cano

    AGAIN THIS IS HUGE – Cespedes is not operating under normal rules.

    10:09am: Dave Cameron of Fangraphs reports another wrinkle in the trade: Cespedes’ contract calls for him to be non-tendered at the end of his deal (if he is not first extended) in order to assure him early free agency, and he therefore is ineligible to receive a qualifying offer following the 2015 season (Twitter links).

  • Hankflorida

    As long as there is a 2nd Wildcard, the Yankees will be buyers. Last year, we had postings of the schedules on Lohud of every team vying to play in October with comments on the opponents that they play.. The Yankees lasted into the end of September, and the interest was there for the Yanks even for a one game playoff in the opponents park.

    • King George

      Oh look, another LoHud reference!

      • Hankflorida

        The reality of the second Wildcard will keep many of us on this blog speculating until probably the end of the season that the Yankees will still have a chance to play in October. Starting from my first game in 1937 to 1964, I was fortunate to watch the Yankees in September just play out the schedule waiting for the World Series to begin.

      • TripleShortOfACycle

        The Tigers have less of a farm then we do yet they are in the lead for Price

  • MB923

    Millone for Fuld is an awful move for Oakland. A middle of the rotation starter for a 4th OFer??

    • CountryClub

      Twins are sending him to AAA

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Middle of the rotation starter? Not in Oakland’s rotation.

      And as much as it pains me to say this, somehow Sam Fuld has been good this year.

      • Terry

        Sam Fuld.

        Rays and A’s reading out of the same playbook.

        Defense, speed, OBP, multiple positions, high value, underrated, and under-appreciated by fans and the arbitration system.

        If Gardner was supposed to be the Poor-man’s Ellsbury (not quite true), Fuld is the Poor-man’s Gardner

  • SweetSpot

    What’s Lester (no draft pick compensation) going to be worth on the open market? Seven $150 plus? Are the Yankees going to make the same mistake again? If not, it begs the question though, what choice do they have? Tanaka may be gone all of 2015, Sabathia is likely done, Kuroda will be gone and Pineda is a huge question mark for health reasons. Am I overstating the problems with the rotation?

    • Paisa

      No. It’s an all around terrible situation.

    • CountryClub

      Hasn’t this yr shown you that rotations can always be pieced together? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying pitching is overrated. But in this current era, it’s just flat out easier to get people out.

  • J. Alfred Prufcock

    If the Athletics were willing to part with Cespedes, surely he wasn’t everything he was cracked up to be. I’d say Jerkface’s moronic bleating was for naught. Good to be back with all of you.

    For I have known them all already, known them all:

    Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,

    I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;

    I know the voices dying with a dying fall

    Beneath the music from a farther room.

    So how should I presume?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    As has always been the case, I know everything.

    • bojo from Lohud

      Could you post the winning numbers for next Saturday’s Powerball lottery?

  • oldguy

    You guys know more than I…when has Cashman ever traded a star player two months from being lost, for an All Star in his prime with more than a year left on his contract? The Sox made a good move. Would love to see Cashman do something other than pick up scraps to plug holes, or overpay for free agents.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

      “when has Cashman ever traded a star player two months from being lost, for an All Star in his prime with more than a year left on his contract?”

      The last time they were in last place at the trade deadline with Cashman as GM.

      • mitch

        the red sox will probably suck again next year, but Yankees fans will wish we were run like them when they trade Cespedes with 2 months left on his deal

        • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

          The point is the Red Sox wouldn’t be making these deals if they were 3 games out of a playoff spot instead of 10.5 games out of a playoff spot.

    • CountryClub

      Well, before Cano, the yanks never let star players walk (and I think the Cano thing was the right move). I guess Pettitte too, but George just wasn’t a fan for whatever reason.

  • Paisa

    When they signed Cespedes before the 2012 to that 4 year deal it was with the understanding that the a’s could potentially trade him. While this was always a possibility I bet they didn’t think it would be for Jon freaking Lester to make a run at a world series title.

  • CountryClub

    Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi 1m
    Source: David Price trade talks intensifying following the Jon Lester deal. Chances of Price trade have increased in last 12 hours.

  • Frank

    Right now the Yanks are like a limp dick in need of Cialis and there’s none to be found.

    • oldguy

      Oldguy understands this.. all too well!

  • CountryClub

    Jon Heyman ?@JonHeymanCBS 50s
    byrd update: offers to phillies in some cases said to be “embarrassing” considering production.

    • TheStraw

      Amaro is smoking crack if he thinks they’re going to get top prospects for Byrd.

    • FIPster Doofus

      Amaro’s tenure is embarrassing.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

        No truer word can be said.

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    Only have a couple of minutes. Busy work days do happen.

    Lester/Cespedes: makes sense to me mostly if they feel they have a chance to bring Lester back. If I was them, it’d be a risk worth taking. Time will tell if it works out, and there’s little guarantee that it happens. Good on them. They’re still dealing with massively overachieving last year.

    I’ll assume the sky is falling and that Cashman failed.

    • Chip

      Wait, Shane Victorino isn’t a true talent 6 win player? I declare shenanigans

    • Richie Rich

      Busy day gardening today?

  • Chip

    Well clearly we need to all make a suicide pact at this point. Is it the new LoHud commenters that are coming over and declaring the end of the world? I feel like its either that or a bunch or randoms in here today.

    Anyhow, the Yankees never made a move like this because they were never buried like this in the standings. Even the two years they missed the playoffs they were an 85ish win team while this year’s Boston team is more like a 75ish win team even with Lester. They made a decent trade but let’s not all pretend they’re going to be world beaters next season with a rotation of nobodies

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Chip with some sense!!

    • oldguy

      My comment about Cashman never doing something like this, did not take into account the context of being in last place…and thus an unfair comparison my part. My criticism is really about being ahead of the curve..not always reacting ,as I think Cashman does. We got out title in 2009 by signing three guys to massive contracts, who we will keep until they are unable to walk. I mostly see him draft poorly,pick up random scraps to plug holes (which occasionally works) and overpaying free agents . I guess since he plays poker with the biggest pile of money he can afford to make lots of mistakes and show no imagination.

      Rant done til year.

      • Chip

        I feel like the Yankees in 2009 picked their spots. They could see that the dynasty guys were about to decline, they had the best player in baseball on their team and the free agent market was the best it was going to be in years. I’m still to this day completely ok with the 3 contracts they gave out that winter. I think the only really bad free agent move (ignoring the A-Rod and CC extentions of course) was Beltran this year. I still think the McCann signing was perfect as they really got to him before the market took off and Ellsbury is a solid player in his prime.

        As far as drafting, we’ve done terribly with our first picks until last season’s draft but it’s hard to get on Cash about Brackman and Cole as they were top 5 picks that just didn’t work out. Heathcott seriously has an almost Trout like ceiling but the dude just can’t stay on the field. DBJ and Culver were clearly terrible but the players drafted after DBJ were Blanke Snell, Dwight Smith, Brett Austin and Hudson Boyd. None of those guys have gotten out of A ball and really DBJ has outperformed them all. This year they turned the 33 overall pick into a top 100 prospect already and they’ve been money in the later rounds

    • mitch

      Agreed. There were always negative posters here, but it has turned into cry baby central the last two days

  • SweetSpot

    Price to Tigers? Wow. (rumor)

    • CountryClub

      that was tweeted by a fake Rosenthal account

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

      Are you referring to the fake Ken Rosenthal twitter rumor?

      • SweetSpot

        Thanks! (fun day)

  • iblamejay-z

    The A’s have decided they are all in on a title this year. That rotation without Lester was already sick. Giving up a bat to get another elite arm was a great play. Pitching wins championships

    • Mike HC

      Tell that to the 2012 Yanks. Lack of offense is why we lost to Detroit. You need both to win.

      • FIPster Doofus

        Yep. “Pitching wins championships” is a meaningless cliche. You’re not winning anything if you don’t hit.

        • Chip

          Also, the 2000s A’s would like to tell you something about pitching and championships

          • Get Phelps Up

            So would the 2011 Phillies.

  • TheStraw

    If Cashman, who stated “I have a lot of work to do” the other day, gets nothing done today other than standing pat, what are we to make of that.

    As convenient as it is to blame the Steinbrenners for everything, I don’t think anything about the current path the Yankees are on changes until Cashman is gone.

    • CountryClub

      I’d be fine with it if it means he didn’t pay silly prices for modest upgrades.

      • TheStraw

        Yeah, but then he better be willing to actually give some more prospects a chance to play in the bigs.

        • Chip

          I don’t understand this argument, in the past couple of years what minor leaguer was kept down that proved to be super great? Gardner and Cano were given spots in the majors before they were really ready but the Yankees stuck with them despite them being below-average hitters in their first taste. A whole line of minor league pitchers have been given opportunities. Phelps has been in the rotation for a solid 2 years now, the 3 biggest guys out of the pen are former prospects. Montero came up and hit some in the majors before he was traded too. I just don’t see a big prospect that was really held back. If anything, the Yankees rush guys up the ladder and we end up with situations like Joba

          • CountryClub

            Yeah, even when they first called up Hughes it was because of a couple of major injuries. They had said just a couple weeks prior that they didn’t want to call him up and then boom. And then he pulled the hammy and was never the same (though quite productive at times).

          • viridiana

            Tyler Clippard was never given a chance. I remember Melancon pitching three shutout innings against Boston and Girardi didn’t use him again for almost two weeks. And what about JR Murphy, now sitting in AAA despite encouraging MLB results. Almonte hasn’t been given a full chance despite his proficiency against RHP — it does often take a year or more for guys to get it in the bigs. I happen to think Refsnyeder is exactly the type of contact hitter this team could use now.
            Admittedly, it is hard to name top-tier position prospects held back by Yanks. But that’s primarily because system hasn’t produced top tier position players in recent years. The test will be over next two years as Ref, JR, Sanchez, O’Brien, Judge, Austin all clamor for shots. It will take commitment and patience to stick with these guys. Time will tell if mgmt has it.

            • CountryClub

              At least in Murphy’s case he was replaced by another player from the farm. And, to be fair, Cervelli has been pretty good this yr. Plus, I think Murphy is better off playing every day in AAA this yr.

            • Chip

              Clippard wasn’t a starter until he got traded right? I think Brian Cashman stated that the team screwed up by not trying him in that role but they did bring him up to get bombed in 6 major league starts so it’s not like he was kept from the majors. I do remember the great benching of Melancon but he did get a chance in the majors and would have likely had one going forward but he was traded. Murphy had a few hot weeks and then couldn’t touch MLB pitching and got squeezed out due to Cervelli coming back. Also, Cervelli has completely outproduced him so it was clearly a wise move. I do agree that Almonte is a head scratcher.

              I think the Yankees are going to be open to playing these guys as long as they prove their worth. Remember, Nunez who was the golden child in the Yankee’s clubhouse was let go for nearly nothing to give Solarte a shot. I’d be willing to bet the Yankees give Refsnyder the second base job out of spring training next year and they’d love Judge to take the right field job sometime in 2016.

          • Kosmo

            FYI Cano hit .297 his rookie season and was 2nd in ROY voting.

            • Chip

              Yeah but he didn’t walk any and didn’t show the power that he would eventually have. If I remember right, he was Sorianoesque with the glove too

        • CountryClub

          When kids are ready, and there is a need, they bring them up. Warren, Betances, Phelps, Green, Murphy, etc…

          It’s been a while since the Yanks called up a legit position player. Cano and Gardner being the last two. Truth is, they didn’t have many to call up in recent years (montero and Jackson traded). But they also didn’t have a lot of need for a long period of time. Now they do and hopefully a couple of the Judges, Austins, Jagielos, etc… of the world can break in over the next couple of seasons.

          • Chip

            We don’t even need huge breakouts. I mean if Jagielo turns into Matt Carpenter I think we should all start doing backflips. We just need some league average starters to come up and be complimentary pieces to the free agents. Even if we could have gotten a number 3 starter out of McAllister, Brackman, Betances, Bleich, ect it would have been huge. If Montero had learned to catch or Romine could stay on the field and be good maybe we don’t have to pick up McCann. Brad Suttle was supposed to really be what Jagielo is

            If we have had one problem in the past 10 years its been turning incredible potential into major league talent

      • mitch

        if Cashman doesn’t make any moves we can complain about then we will complain about the lack of moves!

    • SweetSpot

      No GM has carte blanche to make significant deals and spend money without ownership approval.

    • hey now

      Maybe that “work to do” includes updating his resume?

  • Chip

    I really hope that the Angels go on fire and win the division so we can beat Lester in the wild card game.

  • Lehman College Rocks !!

    this is an outstanding trade for Boston

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....story.html

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Because of an article on boston.com with youtube videos? It also doesn’t mention thet flat out awesome starting pitcher they just lost.

      If they re-sign Lester, it’s a win. Until then, it’s just a downgrade for them.

      • Chip

        Well its a win for them either way as Lester had zero value for them this season and they get a good but not great player for next season plus a comp pick

        • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

          If the options were to retain Lester or lose him and gain Cespedes, as a Yankee fan I’d muchhhh rather them take the latter.

          • Chip

            There is no guarantee they’ll lose him or that trading him will cause them to lose him. Might as well get some good value for him now. It’s not like the A’s are resigning him long term

            • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

              The A’s weren’t signing Cespedes long term either. Obviously for Boston if they are able to bring Lester back than this is a big win. Logically, that’s pretty unlikely though. If they didn’t like his asking price now, they sure as hell won’t like it when he’s on the open market in a few months.

      • Lehman College Rocks !!

        not because of an article

        I put that as a reference

        I have tremendous respect for Cespedes, I value him more than Ells who makes more than twice as much.

        • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

          “I have tremendous respect for Cespedes.”

          That’s your mistake then. He’s a solid player. By no means a superstar and not nearly as valuable as Lester.

  • CountryClub

    Jim Salisbury ?@JSalisburyCSN 2m
    Latest Phillies buzz. Byrd to Yankees possible, but not yet probable. Teams talking. Royals dwindling as fit because tight budget.

  • Slap-Ass

    I hope Cashman doesn’t trade for anyone. It’s the last hour and it’s no time to get desperate. Even if this team makes the playoffs, we aren’t going far.

    • Hankflorida

      I just want to get to the dance floor as anything can happen, and it keeps my interest up.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

        Exactly. Just get in and, however unlikely, anything can happen.

    • Get Phelps Up

      That last line is total bullshit. You realize that last season was the first World Series since 1999 to feature the best team in the AL vs. the best team in the NL. From 2010-2012 each year saw the team in the playoffs with the worst record make it to the World Series. The last time the outright best team in baseball won the World Series…2009. The time before that…1998.

      • Slap-Ass

        Well it’s not fact, just my stated opinion.

        • Get Phelps Up

          OK, and I explained why I disagree with that opinion.

  • Bob

    How does Chris Russo still have a job. He comes on tv, channel gets changed. He’s unbearable.

    • FIPster Doofus

      MLB Network: a good idea initially that has since gone horribly awry and turned into an unwatchable channel.

      • CountryClub

        still better than ESPN

        • Bob

          Definitely. Don’t get how anyone listens to Russo. He’s loud, obnoxious and overall pretty stupid.

        • FIPster Doofus

          I’m content to never turn on either station (unless there’s a live sporting event I want to watch).

          • CountryClub

            Oh, I agree. I never watch ESPN unless it’s a game. And the only time I watch MLB programming is sometimes in the morning to catch highlights. You don’t have silly anchors cracking jokes like you do on ESPN.

    • viridiana

      +1

  • CountryClub

    Jon Morosi ?@jonmorosi 2m
    Intriguing development: Rays officials have scouted Tigers farm system extensively in recent days, source says.

  • joeman

    this NYY team is just about a .500 team no one or two players will help

    • Hankflorida

      Based on the fact that Tanaka is out, you may be right, but you have to make an attempt to at least get to that one game playoff in October in order to keep the fans in the seats.

      • Chip

        And in that one game playoff, you could fluke out a great start from a decent pitcher and then you’re on your way. I mean we saw Phelps dominate the A’s just a few weeks ago

  • joeman

    NYY will do nothing..not how they work, they sign FA’s and then pick up stuff and throw it against the wall to see if it sticks

    • Hankflorida

      I think that Cashman systematically caused the power outage in order to change the team from waiting for the three run homer to a move the line team last year when he decided to play Ichiro with Gardner. Getting rid of Cano and adding Ellsbury continued his plan. The experiment failed!

  • CountryClub

    Gordon Edes ?@GordonEdes 4m
    Sox close to deal for Lackey with NL team. Either Cardinals or Dodgers

    • Blake

      Do they have Popeyes in LA?

    • Get Phelps Up

      Lackey for Crawford, Beckett and Gonzalez.

  • joeman

    Hankflorida says:

    July 31, 2014 at 12:30 pm

    Based on the fact that Tanaka is out, you may be right, but you have to make an attempt to at least get to that one game playoff in October in order to keep the fans in the seats
    ——————————-
    what was their record when Tanaka went out ?

    • Hankflorida

      Not having Tanaka is a blow to the Yanks especially for the 2nd Wildcard.

    • Chip

      You’re aware we have reply buttons here right?

  • joeman

    so the RS have packed in on the 2014 season….don’t be surprised if they don’t get Lester back as a FA

  • itsallhowuseeit

    of course not trying to assume or predict the end of the season, but it will be a real shame if in the last two seasons, two baseball legends go out without a playoff appearance.

  • Bret The Hitman

    ok LISTEN UP, this is not a fun day. I just scrolled through 300+ comments and 100% of them are about the Boston Red Sox.

    CUT THE SHIT

    • CR7

      My main man Brettos!!!

      • Bret The Hitman

        Hello CR7!

  • joeman

    Bret The Hitman says:

    July 31, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    ok LISTEN UP, this is not a fun day. I just scrolled through 300+ comments and 100% of them are about the Boston Red Sox.

    CUT THE SHIT
    ———————————
    NYY are dull & boring……

    • Martin L

      The Red Sox will go into 2015 with a rotation of who? Workman, De la Rosa, Bucholtz and young prospects. The Yankees can tell them how well that works out. They are playing small market ball–that’s their choice.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

    John Lackey to STL.

  • CountryClub

    Gordon Edes ?@GordonEdes 1m
    Sox close to a deal with Cardinals for Lackey, according to multiple sources

  • joeman

    NYY are 10-8 without Tanaka….they are a .500 team

    • No 2013 again

      If your numbers are correct, they are also 45-44 with him. Basically the same with or without Tanaka, so what’s your point?

  • Gamer

    Damn lol you guys saying they need to sell dont get it that they arent even close to out it and and thats why u buy…Simple. U dont sell when you are 3 games out of a playoff spot

    • Patrick

      Also, what is there to sell really? David Robertson? And I wouldn’t even trade him because I want to sign him long term this offseason.

  • CMed21

    Am I the only one who thinks the Yankees end up doing nothing? Maybe a small move like the Capuano one but it seems like they aren’t interested in anyone in particular.

    • itsallhowuseeit

      they were interested in plenty, just didn’t have the pieces to get it done.

      • CountryClub

        no, they weren’t willing to give up the pieces to get it done. And that’s because they don’t have a lot of pieces of that quality.

  • joeman

    NYY will do nothing…

  • Gamer

    Watch them get byrd and kennedy or some shit later on today…U guys all know its coming.

    • CountryClub

      At least byrd also helps next yr.

  • jgibs

    Love scrolling through twitter and not seeing ONE Yankees-related rumor. My confidence is going through the roof

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    The grass is always greener.

    How’d you feel if your favorite team went from “Defending Champion” to “fire sale” in one season?

    • Tar

      A lot better than I feel at the moment….Was that a trick question?

    • Patrick

      I would feel better than if my favorite team went from “miss the playoffs” to “miss the playoffs” in one season.

    • emac2

      Great if the fire sale got us back to the series the following year.

      Even better if the process allowed following the minor league teams to be fun because good players were being developed and promoted on a regular basis.

      Better way to get young fans involved too.

      • Chip

        I’d rather see the major league team winning than the Charleston River Dogs win a championship. Pretty sure casual fans don’t follow the farm teams anymore than I care about NBA summer leagues

  • joeman

    Jorge Steinbrenner says:

    July 31, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    The grass is always greener.

    How’d you feel if your favorite team went from “Defending Champion” to “fire sale” in one season?
    ————————————–
    Ill trade one WS ring one year for a down year the next

    • Tar

      Hey Joeman

      Not sure if you have caught on yet…but they prefer if you hit the reply button under the post that you are replying to. No more copy paste just hit reply

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

      Is the reply button really that difficult to figure out?

      • HansDavenport

        Not at all. I love it.

  • Austin

    Hey fans, come out to Fenway tomorrow night for “Take The Mound Night” where one lucky fan gets to be a Red Sox starting pitcher for the night. You keep the jersey!

    • Bob

      And shuts down Yankee lineup probably.

      • itsallhowuseeit

        this

        • CMed21

          At this moment even I could shut down this Yankees lineup throwing lefty (I’m a righty) as long as I walk Gardner every AB, not like he’s gonna steal anyways.

  • CountryClub

    So here’s a hypothetical for some of you:

    What if the Yanks traded Gardner today? Would you be happy? Let’s say the return is a stud pitcher in AA, a couple of good A prospects and a MLB ready 2nd baseman.

    Would you cheer or scream?

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

      Scream given lack of MLB ready prospects.

    • Bret The Hitman

      I’d twerk.

      I’d sell high on Robertson + Gardner. Those 2 combined will cost the team 28 million dollars next season.

      Betances covers Robertson cheaply.

      That leaves me with 28 million bucks to find an OF plus whatever I receive in a trade for Gardner + Robertson.

      I’d sign Hanley Ramirez.

      At the very least that 28 million gets me Hanley Ramirez + 8 million. On top of that I get something good or Gardner + Robertson

      • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

        Hanley’s very likely getting over $20M/year

        • Bret The Hitman

          Not by much.

  • Chip

    joeman says:
    July 31, 2014 at 12:41 pm
    Jorge Steinbrenner says:
    July 31, 2014 at 12:41 pm
    The grass is always greener.
    How’d you feel if your favorite team went from “Defending Champion” to “fire sale” in one season?
    ————————————–
    Ill trade one WS ring one year for a down year the next

    _____________

    Either learn to use the reply button or go back to LoHud

    • Tar

      CHip

      Whats your problem

      • Tar

        And actually why didn’t you hit the reply button under joeman? Maybe you should go back to Lohud

        • Chip

          I did use the reply button under joeman, he clearly does not reread so I tried to put it in terms that he could understand

  • emac2

    I think the Yankees should simply look to sell anything that returns a premium and only buy elite pieces or bargains.

    My biggest fear today is trading prospects for a replacement level player owed a lot of money.

    • Darl

      agreed.

    • mitch

      right because those are the types of trades they’ve been making

  • CountryClub

    Ken Rosenthal ?@Ken_Rosenthal 1m
    You read that right: @pgammo is reporting Allen Craig and Joe Kelly to the #RedSox for Lackey.

  • joeman

    let them trade Gardner

  • CountryClub

    Bryan Hoch ?@BryanHoch 2m
    Word out of Chicago is that the White Sox had no interest in Francisco Cervelli.

    • Bret The Hitman

      Sherman’s speculation. He suggested interest based on past interest, even before Cervelli’s name surfaced in the biogenesis case.

  • Patrick

    Peter Gammons ?@pgammo 1m
    Sox get Kelly, Craig for Lackey

    Wow ..

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

      Somehow I expected Allen Craig or Matt Adams were on their way out, too much backlog.

  • joeman

    they will have a VG shot at getting Lester back

  • joeman

    joe Kelly could be a nice SPer when healthy

  • CountryClub

    Jack Curry ?@JackCurryYES 16s
    Craig and Kelly aren’t having their best seasons, but I would’ve traded them for Lackey in an instant. Revamped roster continues in Boston.

  • stuart a

    lackey trade good for the sux.. that is a real trade….

  • joeman

    RS won that trade and the Lester trade also

    • Patrick

      Disagree on the Lester trade. Cespedes and a draft pick isn’t a great return. Cespedes is gone after 2015 anyways so unless the Red Sox think they are contenders next year it’s a bad deal for them.

      • Bret The Hitman

        They will re-sign Cespedes.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

          I’d be shocked if they do.

          • Bret The Hitman

            They have plenty of money.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

              They seem to shy away from the mega-deals to free agents now.
              That could always change, obviously.
              Also, Red Sox seem to put a heavy emphasis on OBP. Not sure they’d shell out big for a player where that is a weakness.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          Well that settles it.

          This sorta stuff worked at the house that Pete A built?

  • J. Alfred Prufrock

    Longtime Blusers, I have a question for you. A very good friend of mine is being kept from posting here. She’s done nothing wrong and after she posted under her regular name several times suddenly her posts stopped appearing. Now we can’t even speak her name! Is Axisa so full of himself or so insecure that he would keep away a truly honorable Yankee fan based on whispers in his ear? Unfathomable!

    I have seen them riding seaward on the waves

    Combing the white hair of the waves blown back

    When the wind blows the water white and black.

    We have lingered in the chambers of the sea

    By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown

    Till human voices wake us, and we drown.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Email Mike and ask him. There’s a “submit a tip” button.

    • Deep Thoughts

      Go ask Mike yourself. There’s a comment box in the right-hand column under “Contact Us” that says “Submit A Tip.” No one else knows and/or cares about your drama.

      • HansDavenport

        Exactly. Those people at that blog love drama. Mike did the correct thing.

    • Chase Chasely

      Knock it off and take your lame act to a different board. Just so everyone knows, this is the lunatic who broke laws, hacks people’s personal info and harassed their families. Huge credit to Axisa for nipping this nonsense in the bud by banning who he did. Just know Mike, this guy will change username’s & IP’s like the wind. Nobody in this community should give out any personal info to anyone asking for it. They use the female “positive” poster who runs contests offering prizes to get people to email her off the message board and then they take your personal info and harass you and yours.

      • bojo from Lohud

        You are so wrong. I know her personally and what happened. You don’t.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      I hate your poem with a passion I can’t properly put into words.

    • HansDavenport

      It is my belief Axisa is a very wise man.

      • Chase Chasely

        +1000 I’m very impressed with how he handled this and how quickly he acted.

  • Frankie D

    Why is Byrd considered a “clubhouse problem”?

    • PhillyMatt

      Female Reporters

      • bojo from Lohud

        What? He dresses up as female reporters?

      • Chad Jennings

        Could you guys please come back? I’m so lonely….

  • stuart a

    lester trade they did not win..

    lackey trade they won big..

    • CountryClub

      maybe. They got potential in the 2nd trade, but that’s all it is.

  • Chip Rodriguez

    so the Red Sox get Cespedes, Craig and Joe Kelly for one inconsistent veteran and two fewer months of a FA to be. Good grief.

    • FIPster Doofus

      Lackey has been excellent since last season and is only due to make 500k next year. Of course he was going to bring back something nice.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Why are you acting like Kelly and Craig have been good?

  • CountryClub

    Ben Badler ?@BenBadler 1m
    With the Red Sox adding Yoenis Cespedes and Allen Craig today, the market for Rusney Castillo just changed in a matter of hours.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      That’s an overreaction of the worst kind.

  • joeman

    stuart a says:

    July 31, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    lester trade they did not win..
    ——————————————–
    why not

    • FIPster Doofus

      There’s a reply button.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Remind me to pee on your floor when I come over to your house. Oh, there’s a bathroom? That’s not how I roll.

      Reply button.

  • Bigdan

    It is an interesting trade for the Sox isn’t it? It shows that the Sox recognize just how far they are from being competitive next year. Let’s face it. The Sox could have traded Lester for a boatload of cost-controlled prospects. But they didn’t because they already have enough of those. What they need are real bats they can put in their lineup next year and now they have one. Like the Yanks, they probably need about three more.

    And Lester is gone of course. It will take six or seven years probably north of $125MM to sign him and it’s obvious the Sox aren’t going there.

    As Tanaka proved, when faced with a clear option to fill a need, this Yankee regime will spend. If Tanaka is out next year, about a 75-80% chance Lester is a Yankee. Tanaka in, it’s 50/50.

    • FIPster Doofus

      If the deal shows that the Sox recognize they’re far from being competitive next year, then prospects would’ve made more sense as a Lester return than one year of a veteran.

    • Bigdan

      Have to reply to my own post because while I was posting, the Sox traded Lackey, using the same strategy I just described. They are trying desperately to put some type of competitive team on the field next year.

      So they’ve added two bats. Good for them. They still need about two more and a starting rotation.

    • AndrewYF

      If they were concerned about competing next year, they shouldn’t have traded away 4/5ths of their rotation. Now they’re *really* screwed.

  • Jorge Steinbrenner

    Thought the Sox could counterbalance the Lester trade by getting more pieces for Lackey. Guess not.

    They must be counting on a rebound from Craig.

    The Yankees are doing nothing! The Yankees should do nothing! No, Smoegal, no!

  • Chip

    Boston has completely remade their roster for next year.

    They had a weak OF this year and now they’re going to open next year with Craig, Bradley and Cespedes.

    They need rotation help now – but they have money and prospects to do it.

    FYI – this is what the Yankees should have done last year with Cano, Kuroda, Grandy and others.

    • FIPster Doofus

      Craig has been one of he worst regulars in MLB this year. JBJ had a 67 wRC+.

      • FIPster Doofus

        *has

    • Get Phelps Up

      Not for nothing, but Craig, Bradley and Cespedes still could end up being up a below average outfield.

      • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

        This.

    • Gamer

      Omfg. they were in it until the last week thats why they didnt trade it. They werent 12 games under 500 like the sox now. completely different.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Much easier to do when you’re out of the race. Can guarantee that Boston wouldn’t do this if they were where we were last year.

      Much to been seen as far as what they do in the offseason, but as of now it’s safe to say that they’re a worse ballclub than they were a few hours ago. Guys like Lester are awfully hard to replace.

    • Chip

      Wonderful, now somebody is using my handle

      • Chip

        And worse, saying stupid stuff

        • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

          Glad to see that wasn’t you. You seem sensible and that comment was brutal.

  • joeman

    NYY team in 14 was going to be a .500 team with or without Tanaka…parts are needed and not just a few

  • SweetSpot

    Is this going to be a sad day for Yankee fans? Or a last minute hell yeah!

  • http://theevilsquare.com handtius

    These comment sections have become unbearable and unreadable…locals need a stash spot.

    • FIPster Doofus

      It’s like that “South Park” episode when the people from the future show up and take everyone’s jobs.

      • Tar

        Not familiar with that episode but from my perspective it’s more like “how dare we have the nerve to sit at the front of the bus”.

        Some of you view this place as having some sort of caste system… not very flattering. Things change, sometimes for the better sometimes not. One’s values should always be consistent.

        Just my view

        • FIPster Doofus

          I’m fine w/ new people. Just use the damn reply button and make life easier on the established readership.

        • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

          Caste system? Nah. It’s more like an MLB clubhouse. If you’re a rookie here, pay heed to what the veterans say.

          Especially if it’s something as simple as “Use the reply button.”

        • http://theevilsquare.com handtius

          I’m consistent in my views. I like small gatherings, not large parties. I like it when people use the reply button. I like it when the peanut butter doesn’t stick to the roof of my mouth, so I prefer the jelly side of my pbj on the north. Reading through a thread of 400 comments is pretty annoying, especially when a huge bulk of it is nonsensical blabbering and yankee damnation from yankee fans. Curse the yankees!!!! win yankees!!! They suck, but go out and win is not constructive thought and doesn’t hold any value on a comment section.

      • Paisa

        Now for some commentary on the subject we bring you aging hippy liberal douche and angry pissed off redneck.

        • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

          Now for a live report, we go to a paraplegic Swiss man riding a donkey.

        • FIPster Doofus

          THEY TOOK ERR JERBS

          • Paisa

            Hold on a second. This is totally gay. Back to the pile!

    • Mike HC

      Gotta agree. Nothing against any of the LoHud posters, but it is just way too much now. It is the trade deadline though, so maybe things will settle down during normal days.

      • Blake

        This format is tough with a lot of traffic……it’s hard to tell wants going on for sure

        • Bret The Hitman

          What’s going on is every Yankee fan from LOHUD and RAB are posting about the Red Sox moves and so far that’s all we have to talk about.

          This whole deadline is about the Sox. The Yankees whole game plan seems to omit this entire phase of the season.

      • http://theevilsquare.com handtius

        Lets hope so. I don’t comment much anymore. Have too much going on, but I do read through it and get to laugh and sometimes cry, but if it’s like this, I’ll have to opt out completely from the comment section.

    • Chip Rodriguez

      I’m starting to long for the days when Eddard’s insanity was the only thing in these threads I needed to scroll by.

      • http://theevilsquare.com handtius

        OH Eddard…

    • mitch

      Agreed. Let’s pool together some money to bribe Lohud to go back to the old format.

    • Deep Thoughts

      Agreed. At least it’s in the Open Thread Containment Zone.

  • No 2013 again

    Boston’s FO running laps around NYY’s FO. Damn shame that the best franchise has such a weak cast running baseball operations.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      So go root for the Sawx then.

      • Get Phelps Up

        I’m sure he would have no complaints at all about a team that has missed the playoffs in 4 of the past 5 seasons.

  • Blake

    Wow Cherington…..pretty good day for him Id say

    • Missing Cano

      No, he needed to come out of this with at least one of Marco Gonzales or Rob Kaminsky from the Cardinals.

    • Bret The Hitman

      Hey Blake! Ownership there has a good relationship with their GM’s. They seem to let them sell-high and reload (read: give up) when the market calls for it.

      It seems our ownership is too stubborn and inflexible. Last year they could have sold Cano + Granderson + maybe Kuroda.

      This year they can sell Gardner, Robertson, maybe even McCann.

      • Blake

        This move makes sense for Boston IF they can retool their rotation for next season…….if they can’t then they are gonna suck big time in 2015 because as of now they have like no rotation at all.

        Cherington is putting a lot of eggs in the Lester coming back basket IMO

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      How so? He made a move that’s inferior to re-signing Jon Lester and brought in two guys with WAR’s below 1.

  • Bret The Hitman

    Colletti insists Kemp is not on the market. Totally raking in his past 18 games, OPS over .800 now, 3 HR in past 2 games.

    • Missing Cano

      Yanks do not want bats. They want to continue to score as many 2 run games and see how many they can win. It lets Girardi feel more like he is managing and in control of the game, as well as guys like Phelps, who take the blame for allowing more than 2 runs a game.

      • FIPster Doofus

        You’re probably the type who complains about all the declining 30-somethings on bloated contracts. Kemp would be another (he’s only 29 now, but close enough).

        • Bret The Hitman

          Kemp is younger than Cano and has 5 years left on his deal to Cano’s 10.

          • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

            Makes it about even considering Kemp’s injury and performance issues.

          • FIPster Doofus

            Cano has what to do with Kemp? Not to mention that Cano’s way better than Kemp.

        • Missing Cano

          Nahh, I wanted Cano and Granderson on this team while implementing guys like Judge and company in the coming years.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      I think it has much less to do with the last 18 games than it does with the horrific contract that’s attached to him.

  • Bigdan

    With Cespedes and Craig, where does Mookie play? I gotta know!

    Maybe CF?

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      But then where does Bradley play??

      Oh, that’s right. He sucks.

    • Not an ace

      They already have future hall of famer Jackie Bradley Jr in center.

  • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

    I’m late to the party, but I’m only going to say this once: I don’t give a tuppenny fuck about what the Red Sox have done. I think the trades they’ve made are good, but they have just as many holes as they did at the start of the day.

    But I’m not going to be preoccupied with what they’re doing. They’re not relevant to the Yankees and their chances to make the playoffs, other than the games they play against each other. Either way, I don’t care about the Red Sox. Focus on the Yankees.

  • Blake

    I think the Yanks have done about all they can do so far…..the Headley and McCarthy deals were good in that they cost very little long term and they give them auditions for potential help in 2015.

    They really have very little to sell….DRob is about it and while he could bring you a nice piece perhaps…..he’s not changing the farm system or anything.

    With this bein Jeters final season and with their being no really dominant team in the league I think they are gonna hang out and see what happens over the next month…….if Tanaka comes back and if they are still in the race in Augustayne you go after Cliff Lee if he’s healthy and take your shot.

    • Bigdan

      I think you are right (except the Headley part–he’s a pure rental). I think Cash would have gone for a Byrd now but probably the asking prices are just too high.

      The key is Tanaka. Not just for this year but next. In fact, I doubt they’ll have enough info to decide on surgery for Tanaka till after the season. But on the slim chance he’s back this season, he would give the Yanks the boost to perhaps consider a a waiver deal.

  • Bill

    Do nothing of consequence. Assuming Tanaka has the TJ surgery, start putting pieces together and figure on making a return to prominence in 2016. Use 2015 to get Refsnyder’s feet wet and maybe see if Jose Pirela can play a little bit. Nova will take 2015 to regain his form and maybe Pineda can figure out a way to get 25 starts. Next year might be a last place season, but if they play their cards right, 2016 can be a year where they get back to being the Yankees instead of this melange of mediocrity we’re suffering through currently.

  • nycsportzfan

    I’d rather have Craig, Cespedes, and Kelly then Lackey and Lester anyways. The RedSox made solid moves in my opinion.

    • Old Man Time

      Craig and his 81 wRC+ and -.4 war?

      • craig

        Craig is 29 (as good as he is going to be) and his K rate is up, BB rate is down, SLG is down 4 straight years and his defense is terrible.

        Why do we view this as a good pick-up?

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      “I’d rather have Craig, Cespedes, and Kelly then Lackey and Lester anyways.”

      Idiotic.

  • Hankflorida

    Looking at the AL East, I am thinking of Kipling’s quote, “In the valley of the blind, the one eyed man is king.”. The Yankees should do whatever gets them to October, and then, anything can happen especially if they have Tanaka back.

  • nycsportzfan

    Man, it sucks all these new people around. Its hard to get into 500post threads.

    • Bret The Hitman

      Be more aggressive. You learn in the LOHUD free-flowing format to spark conversation.

      • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

        What’s not free-flowing about this format? Is directly replying to a comment that challenging?

        • Bret The Hitman

          LOHUD is one ongoing conversation where you have to learn to craft your posts so that they spark conversation. This one is multiple conversations but when traffic is high, the herd tends to want to perpetuate a single theme in an ongoing conversation. You have to find a niche/angle to spur a distinct/standout conversation within the traffic.

          You constantly have to do that at LOHUD because there is never a separation, even when traffic is low.

          • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

            As my good friend Dalek Jeter would say, this translates to “LoHud is a shit show of people screaming and whoever screams the loudest or says the weirdest/most polarizing thing gets to carry the conversation.”

            • FIPster Doofus

              “I have the conch.”-LoHud of the Flies

              • Dalek Jeter

                That does seriously seem to be the way of it, or the way it was on LoHud. Which is a terrible, terrible model.

    • Missing Cano

      Get busy living or get busy . . . .

      Remember 8 tracks and cassettes are things of the past.

  • Frankie Cerveddardi

    I knew this would happen. Two days into this experiment and people are already pining for the days when I was the craziest one here. Now it’s all over. I told you these Lohud folks were my kind of people.

    Back to baseball, so the Yanks won’t have to face Lackey or Lester this weekend but I’m not sure it will matter. We can’t even hit 6 ERA pitchers like Colby Lewis or 10 ERA pitchers like Mike Mikolas. And it doesn’t sound like any help is on the way in form of a trade. Yanks just don’t have the prospects to do these deals.

    A’s and Cards are perennial winners and still have prospects to make these deals every year. Sure would be nice to have a quality GM/scouting dept to have that deep a farm.

  • Bret The Hitman

    Let’s cut through the bull right now.

    Name one trade deadline where Brian Cashman had an impressive/notable trade deadline?

    I can’t think of one.

    This is just not his time of year.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      Yea, too bad he acquired David Justice way before the trade deadline.

      • FIPster Doofus

        That doesn’t count, though, because it happened before an arbitrary deadline date.

        • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

          Right, that’s what I said.

          • FIPster Doofus

            I was being sarcastic, fwiw.

            • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

              I thought so, but…my sarcasm meter is broken with the LoHud influx.

      • Bret The Hitman

        Holy shit you didn’t just go back to the grunge era did you?

        • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

          Goalpost changer much?

          Also apparently no older than 15.

          • Bret The Hitman

            1 or 2 trades 15 years ago and life-time contract guarantee much?

            • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

              Doesn’t change the fact that I answered your question and then you decided to attach qualifications to it.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

      Bobby Abreu.
      David Justice.

    • Missing Cano

      Bobby Abreu says hi!

      • Bret The Hitman

        You only had to go back 10 years ago. They should hire you at genealogy.com

        • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

          It’s OK. Math is hard.

        • Get Phelps Up

          You asked for one impressive/notable trade deadline move and he gave you one.

          • Get Phelps Up

            And if you really want to impose an arbitrary time limit, then all you have to do is go back to, you know…LAST YEAR. And the year before that. Hell even this year, the returns on McCarthy and Headley have been strong.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

              In fairness, you can’t really give Cashman credit for last year, since he was against the trade.

              Also not sure missing the playoffs by slightly fewer games was worth the tradeoff of enduring Soriano’s performance this year.

              • Ed

                It’s not so much that he was against trading for Soriano. He just felt that if they waited until closer to the deadline to make the deal, the Cubs would have accepted less for him. I think if he had his way, Soriano would have been a Yankee a week later and we’d have given up a prospect closer to the bottom of our Top 30 Prospects List.

          • Bret The Hitman

            Perspective. He has to go WAY BACK in time to find an exceptional deadline in a sea of duds, an overwhelming sea of strikeouts.

            The problem here is the front office under Cashman and the ownership has no game plan for the deadline.

            They are in constant spend (buy) mode.

            It’s not sustainable and the evidence is OVERWHELMING against Cashman.

            Proof he’s just a pip-squeak who takes orders and brings coffee.

            • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

              They’ve made the playoffs almost every single year.
              How many years was a big deadline deal actually necessary?
              How many of those years was there a deal to be made that actually made sense?
              Not making a deal isn’t a strikeout if there are no good deals to be made.

              Perspective.

            • Ed

              It sounds like he does have a plan for the deadline. It’s just not the plan that you want him to have.

        • Old Man Time

          Where did you request a specific time limit in your question?

          • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

            Isn’t it obvious? It was where he said:

            “Name one trade deadline where Brian Cashman had an impressive/notable trade deadline?

            I can’t think of one.”

            Clearly his restrictions were there and we just couldn’t see them.

    • Aaron Boone

      What about me?

      • itsallhowuseeit

        meh

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Haven’t been a fan long huh?

      Bobby Abreu. David Justice. Glenallen Hill. Soriano. Kerry Wood. Shawn Chacon.

      Recently he’s gotten Headley and McCarthey for almost nothing.

      • mitch

        stop letting your facts get in the way of his narrative

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          Think they got much pushback on this stuff over in Chadville?

          • mitch

            I don’t think they read each others comments. I think they just took turns pounding out complaints

        • craig

          And that off-season deal for Swisher was pretty good, too.

          Cash gets no love.

        • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew) RIP Egon

          +2

      • Bret The Hitman

        Holy shit, Curt Cobain was still alive.

        • Jorge Steinbrenner

          *bashes own head against wall*

        • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

          Also wrong.

          • Bret The Hitman

            Mosh pits were still in style.

        • Giuseppe Franco

          Perhaps a lame attempt at making a joke would’ve had more impact if you actually spelled his name correctly.

    • Get Phelps Up

      They weren’t the most heralded moves in the world, but last 2 trade deadlines he acquired players that were tremendous down the stretch for us.

      • Bret The Hitman

        Define ‘tremendous’

        • Get Phelps Up

          Ichiro: .322/.340/.454 in 2012
          Soriano: 131 OPS+.

          “Tremendous” may be a bit too much. “Very good” is definatley NOT too much.

  • Wayne

    Any reports on Luis Severino, Aaron Judge and Gary Sanchez being traded?
    Just saying!

  • joeman

    would like to see them move McCann among others

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      No chance.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”
    • Bret The Hitman

      He’s a shift-special. Would love to see the new Tex moved before his metamorphosis is complete. He’s out of the cocoon that’s for sure.

    • Patrick

      Trade McCann, seriously?

      Troll harder

  • hey now

    I can just picture pgammo now mixing himself a nice, tall glass of Tanqueray and tonic as he prepares to explain to the world how today was an even better day for the Red Sox than winning the WS.

    • Missing Cano

      He cannot. Cherrington did not come out of it with Gonzales or Kaminsky. It is a huge fail.

  • Evan3457

    1. Cespedis not as good as the name sounds. Will hit better in Fenway, though.
    2. Sox think they won’t lose Lester. They might.
    3. Trading Lackey (and Lester), and his minimum salary for next year leads me to think that Cherrington doesn’t think he can win next year, either.
    4. Joe Kelly is a decent starter who throws pretty hard, nothing more.
    5. Craig appears to be past his prime, but maybe the Sox think he’ll recover like their “character” pickups did last year. He was an outstanding hitter in the clutch in the past.

    If the Sox get every break, they might take another run at it all next year, assuming they can sign a top free agent starter. Or three.

    • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew) RIP Egon

      Exactly. Right now their rotation is:

      Buchholz
      Joe Kelly
      ????
      ????
      ????

      • Reggie C.

        Henry Owens could be slotted at the fifth spot.

        • Joe C

          I thought they were going to bring back jim Longborg. Then again Bill Spaceman Lee suits up from time to time when he’s not busy calling Yankee players stormtroopers.

  • http://www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew) RIP Egon

    Well this really sucks….

  • Hankflorida

    The Yankees have always picked up veteran players to enhance their chances to get to October. I remember way back in the middle of the last century Johnny Hopp, Johnny Mize and Enos Slaughter. I did go to games in the 1930’s but was too young to remember any players that they acquired late in the season.

  • ChipS56

    Glad to see so many LoHuders.

    Interesting that the Red Sox are willing to go from world champions to totally tearing it down getting players who can fill needs going forward and improving their farm system.

    My guess is that they’ll be in on guys like Scherzer, Shields, Stanton, Tulo, Hamels…

    Cashman, on the other hand, has also been smart – he’s giving up garbage for guys who aren’t superstars – but they’re guys that fill needs and give the Yankees time to audition them for next offseason.

  • Reggie C.

    Cherington could trade CC Sabathia right now.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      What? He traded an awesome pitcher in Lester and a solid one in Lackey with a team friendly option for next year. Pretty easy guys to trade. not CC.

    • Jimmy

      Could he get Yu Darvish for a Carmen Angelini game-worn jersey?

  • CMed21

    Not getting Danks is an upgrade over getting him, so glad he won’t be wearing the Yankee pinstripes. How about a deal for Hammel? Oakland should have no extra spots with Lester, Gray, Kazmir, Shark and Chavez.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

      Danks would easily clear waivers.
      That ship hasn’t permanently been sunk yet.

  • trollhunter

    I think its time for Cashman to go. Give it to Eppler before he leaves. Yankees have to either buy or sell.

  • ChipS56

    Joel Sherman on MLB Network – David Price will be traded today.

  • Chip Rodriguez

    for all the griping about Cashman making no moves – if at the end of the day, Severino, Judge, Clarkin, O’Brien, and Refsnyder are still in our system, I’ll be happy.

    • ChipS56

      Agreed – if they move a couple of lower level guys for a Byrd or Rios type of hitter and/or Anderson/Danks type of pitcher. I’m fine with that.

      Though part of me is holding out hope for a deal with the Dodgers – Gary Sanchez, Zoilo Almonte and Adam Warren for Kemp and Beckett?

      • Chip Rodriguez

        Cashman seems the type who’ll wait until the last second, until the prices will drop on guys other teams would rather move than be stuck with. I’m still expecting a couple of ninja moves.

        • ChipS56

          If you think about it – the Yankees don’t make major in-season moves.

          The three biggest deals that stick out to me in his tenure are:
          Marte & Nady for Tabata, Karstens, McCutchen

          Abreu & Lidle for CJ Henry

          David Justice for Ledee and Westbrook

          Aaron Boone for Brandon Claussen

          Denny Neagle for prospects

          That’s it – he’s much more into making a splash in the winter when there’s more time to think through a deal than he is doing it up against a deadline when, as he puts it, prices can skyrocket.

    • Mike HC

      I’m with you. And considering it is a long shot that Boston or Tampa will ever trade with the Yanks anyway, Phillies trade demands are ridiculous, and we didn’t have a prospect anywhere near as good as Russell to get Samardzija, I like sticking on to those guys.

    • swizmo

      I’d be okay with losing O’Brien for someone than can help us now. I think at best he projects somewhere between Shelley Duncan and Mark Reynolds, and might be peaking right now in terms of his trade value.

    • Slap-Ass

      They will all be traded for Price. It makes too much sense.

    • Tyler

      Yeah I definitely give Cashman credit for not forcing something so far. I think Boston has done a good job today but I do think that the trades look a lot better on paper than they may be on the field. The Yanks aren’t going to be sellers so being patient is the way to go.

  • Jerkface

    We got marlon byrd, trade deadline saved!!

    • Jerkface

      thus guaranteeing the time honored tradition of having a 37/38 year old right fielder the next 2 years

      • Jerkface

        oh wait nevermind @MLB retweeted a fake account, THANKS OBAMA

        • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

          Indeed. Always his fault.

          • Chip Rodriguez

            it’s a change from Cashman Failed, at least.

      • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

        Soriano 2.0?

        • mitch

          unless my right-handed, power-hitting corner outfielder signed through next year can win the homerun derby, it’s a terrible acquisition. But if he wins the derby, it’s genius

          • Old Man Time

            +1

      • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

        Or not.

  • Patrick

    JIM BOWDEN ?@JimBowdenESPNxm 1m
    Yankees acquire Marlon Byrd

    Cool? For what

    • Patrick

      I actually think this is a lie and Jim Bowden was quoting a fake Joel Sherman tweet. We will see …

    • Mike HC

      Alright … some excitement on the Yanks front. It will definitely be for at least a semi talented piece.

  • Evan3457

    Jim Bowden tweeting the Yanks have traded for Byrd.

    1) Yeah, it’s Bowden, so I’ll wait for confirmation
    2) I wonder how much they gave up.

    • ChipS56

      Well if it’s Bowden then the Yankees probably gave up Severino, Judge, Clarkin and Sanchez for him…

      I’m with you – let’s wait for confirmation from someone who isn’t a moron.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

    Marlon Byrd, huh?

    I’m a bit worried this will be Soriano 2.0. Help this year (but not enough) and then hurt next year.

    Hope I’m wrong.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

      Apparently this might be fake.

      • Evan3457

        Bowden’s accout says it’s real.
        No idea if it’s really true.
        Sherman denying he also tweeted it.

      • Dalek Jeter

        Idk, mlbtr has it and they don’t usually post fake.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

          They’re just relying on Bowden.
          Bowden might have gotten it from the fake tweet.

          Who knows?

    • Evan3457

      Might be.

      But it’s Bowden, so I’ll wait for confirmation.

    • Dan A.

      That’s honestly my expectation. But I’ll take the power this year for sure. Hopefully there’s $$$ involved and no A-type prospects.

    • Kosmo

      I´m a bit lukewarm about Byrd but the good thing is he doesn´t have a no trade clause.

    • nycsportzfan

      Byrd is a much better all around hitter then Sori at this point, which shows the obvious difference in comparing the 2.

      • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

        Compare Soriano’s 2013 to Byrd’s 2014.
        It’s not that big of a difference.

        Add in his soaring K% and declined LD%, and there are some definite warning signs.

        Not saying I think he’d be as bad next year as Soriano was this year, but I still wouldn’t want to commit to him for next year, and certainly not for the year after.

  • TheRealGreg

    It might be that Bowden was duped by the fake Joel Sherman tweet

    • Evan3457

      This is possible.

  • Mike Myers

    NEWS

    Yankees acquire Marlon Byrd….

    No news on who was sent over

  • RayVT

    Byrd to the Yanks!

  • John C

    Just hope Judge, Severino or Clarkin not invloved

  • Mandy Stankiewicz

    MLBTR says Byrds landing back in NY

    • Evan3457

      MLBTR also relying on the dubious Bowden tweet.
      Maybe it’s true.

  • Patrick

    Paul Byrd I can’t wait!

    • Tom

      I laughed.

      (and then cried when I had to think for a second if it would somehow still be an upgrade!)

  • Evan3457

    Sherman says it’s fake:

    I have asked #Yankees they are not close to Byrd. If anyone cares my twitter is @Joelsherman1. That was a fake account reporting it.

    • Evan3457

      Backed up by LoHud Tweet:
      Amid false accounts claiming the Yankees have traded for Marlon Byrd, one team official says simply: “Nope..didn’t get him.

      False alarm, folks.
      Should’ve known with Bowden the Insane.

  • trollhunter

    Byrd is the word

  • Jerkface

    Trade deadline re-saved!

    We got Esmil Rogers!! ERA of 6.9, God’s number!

  • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

    Wow, ESPN really needs to smack Bowden upside the head.

    By “smack (him) upside the head,” I clearly mean “fire his stupid ass.”

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

    Gerardo Parra to MIL. That’s a tad surprising.

  • Dalek Jeter

    mlbtr and Sherman are back tracking, “nothing is close” with Byrd to the Yankees.

    • Evan3457

      And also Hoch, Marchand, and Curry saying no Byrd. Not close.

  • trollhunter

    Bowdon fountain of misinformation is the word.

  • Evan3457

    Here’s the big move we’ve all been waiting for:
    The Yankees have claimed Esmil Rogers off waivers from the Blue Jays.

    Jack Curry tweet, so it came from the team.

    • Chip Rodriguez

      dat 5.4 FIP… mmm.

  • Patrick

    No Marlon Byrd but we got Esmil Rogers woo hoo!

    • ChipS56

      Yet another guy for Girardi to play instead of Almonte :-)

  • Slap-Ass

    Faaack Byrd.

  • al

    I don’t want Marlon Byrd please Yankees don’t make a deal for him

  • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

    Esmil Rogers claimed by the Yankees.

    And I was starting to think it was going to be a quiet deadline day for the Yankees.

  • JKatlak

    I think Allen Craig is a great pickup for the Red Sox. It’s easy to look at Craig’s offensive numbers and shout “this year!” “this year!” “this year!” but on his good years Craig has something a lot of hitters don’t and that’s intangibles. He may not repeat his intangibles, but that’s because his intangibles he depends on are unique to the league and because it’s just inherently difficult to hit a baseball at the same rate he was doing year from year, but are repeatable over a large sample of years. Craig on a good year knows how to do the little things as a hitter to contribute to a team victory in a close ballgame. Things like taking a pitch on the outside corner the other way to drive in a run and simply staying inside the baseball. He’s just a professional hitter that simply cares about doing what’s best for the team than try to play hero ball that many hitters like to do because they lack the intangibles.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      Well, I’m very glad you’re here to tell us these things.

      Dalek, take the professor here in the back and plug him into the hyperdrive!

    • Dalek Jeter

      …wut? Craig’s down year has nothing to do with “teh intangibles” it has to do with him walking less, striking out more, not having an absurdly high BABIP, his line drive rate plummeting, and his ground ball rate skyrocketing. Basically what I’m saying is everything that was good about Craig in 2013 and 2012 as well as everything that is wrong with him in 2014 is both tangible and quantifiable.

      • JKatlak

        No it’s not because trends in baseball don’t continue year to year for many baseball players. Just look at Melky Cabrera. Last year not very good, followed by this year much better. Same thing for Cabrera in 2010 when he was horrid, then he bounces back, gets caught for PEDs, stinks, and then bounces back this year again. I mean if you ask Cardinals fans if they cared that Craig didn’t walk much in 2013 or 2011, they probably wouldn’t because in the end they made the world series (even though they didn’t win it in 2013 and won it in 2011) and was a big help to them getting there when he was healthy. I mean there’s no evidence to suggest that if Allen Craig took the Adam Dunn route by walking more along with other Cardinals players they would have still made the world series both in 2011 and 2013.

        And Craig was above league average for OBP in 2013, so whether or not he achieved it by a high BABIP doesn’t really matter because in the end 2+2= 4 is the same thing as 1+3=4. Doesn’t matter how you got there. You don’t get credit for style points how you achieve a sufficient OBP as long as you do it. Craig is not doing it this year, but you have no basis to predict with accuracy he won’t get back to what he was doing during his previous 3 years especially when things vary with players every year unless you are locked into 1 style of hitting like a Dunn or a Jay Bruce.

    • Old Man Time

      Wow. Some of you guys will say to bolster a move the Sox make.

    • Paisa

      Slugging down for the third straight year, LD% taking a nosedive. And to top it off he is going to play RF for them next year! In Fenway! Should be fun to watch.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      Intangibles.

      The things that flew in the house that Pete Abe built.

      Where are the nice folks from yesterday? Where’s Shame Spencer. I’d trade Tyler Austin for Shame Spencer.

  • Bret The Hitman

    Give Cashman the Byrd, that’s my stance.

  • Missing Cano

    Will Cashman pass on Latos again?

    Coming off a dreadful losing streak, the Reds have dangled right-hander Mat Latos in trades, according to ESPN’s Jayson Stark (on Twitter).

    • Chip Rodriguez

      him and McCarthy in the rotation would be worth it just for their wives. That’ll raise the temps up in the Bronx.

    • Kosmo

      Latos would be a great pickup.

      • FIPster Doofus

        His numbers this year are reason for concern. Few strikeouts, lots of fly balls. His ERA’s nice because of a .206 BABIP and absurdly low HR rate.

        • Dalek Jeter

          Not all fly balls are created equal, and it’s not like he plays in a pitchers park, his home ballpark yields the second amount of homers per game (behind Yankee stadium).

          • FIPster Doofus

            You’re right, but a significant drop in grounders and strikeouts is still alarming. A few years back, he was averaging over a K per inning. Now he’s at 5.57 per 9.

    • Evan3457

      Would certainly give the Yanks a decent shot at a complete rotation on the DL.

      Latos is good, if you can keep him on the field. K rate way down this year, along with the swinging strike rate. Missed time with injuries 6 times in the last 2 years, 3 of them elbow, 1 of them serious enough for the 60-day DL.

    • nycsportzfan

      I’d shit if the Yanks went really crazy and offered a major pact of prospects for Johnny Cueto whos also said to be available, at least he was a couple days ago.

      The Pads must not be dangling Tyson Ross, because you’d figure his name would be out there much more then its been.

      The other day when I seen Stros were dangling Kuechel, I said they must be nuts, and he pitched a complete game gem since and is now said to be off the market.lol Teams are funny sometimes.

  • Kosmo

    nothing definite on Byrd

  • Christ is King

    On a claim (Rogers) do we have to send someone or something?

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      Only a gift basket.

      • Christ is King

        so no players going to Jays? I really dont know.. thanks MMRL… OHHHH YEAAAAAA

        • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

          No, no players on a waiver claim.

          Sorry for the sarcasm then.

    • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

      cash

  • Evan3457

    Tigers-A’s “arms race”?

    Tigers might be in on Price now.

  • ChipS56

    The Brewers got Parra for a song.

    • Evan3457

      He’s a great defender, but not really a good hitter.

      Haniger, 23, is hitting .255/.316/.416 in 271 plate appearances at Double-A this year. Baseball America rated Haniger the third-best prospect in the Brewers’ weak farm system prior to the season, calling him the team’s most advanced hitting prospect. T

  • JKatlak

    Yanks haven’t gotten Marlon Byrd yet. Sherman tweeted just about 10 minutes or so ago that nothing was close. I don’t know where peoples’ sources are from.

    • Martin L

      Apparently, another phony twitter message.

    • Evan3457

      See above.

      Original tweet came from either Bowden, or Bowden relying on a tweet from a false Sherman account. Denied by the Yanks within 10 minutes, and that was confirmed by about 5-6 different guys who cover the Yanks.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      25 other people said this already.

      B-b-b-it it nested so we c-c-c-ant read it.

  • Martin L

    I think Cashman’s approach is the correct way—not trying to go all in, giving up tops prospects for a marginal addition. If he can upgrade, incrementally, then fine. But keep their top prospects.

    In the George Steinbrenner era, Cashman was told to fling tops prospects for a veteran–and often those deals didn’t pan out.

    • RetroRob

      Almost always didn’t work out. George was the reason Fred McGriff was traded for, for, what was that reliever’s name? Dale Murray? Buhner, Willie McGee, Drabek, etc. They also traded Jose Rijo, but at least that brought back Rickey Henderson.

    • nycsportzfan

      I just hope we use some of these top prospects. Its one thing to keep em and use em(even in trades), and its another if your just gonna go nuts in FA’cy and keep the prospects and let em just play, play, and play more in the minors and rarley give a guy a true chance to prove himself.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

    Heyman says Chris Denorfia to Mariners…so we’ll see.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      Well it wasn’t Bowden, so it’s already more credible.

    • Evan3457

      Greg Johns at MLB backs this up. He might be relying on Heyman, but he doesn’t say.

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

        Mariners confirmed it via Ryan Divish.

    • CMed21

      Prefer Almonte playing RF over Denorfia/Ichiro.

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

        Humorously, Abraham Almonte is going to San Diego.

        • vicki

          the padres do have a type, don’t they?

    • TopChuckie

      Whew.

  • Patrick

    Hahaha Jim Bowden deleted his twitter

    • Evan3457

      Oh, good for him.

      Now, if he could just delete himself.
      Or at least his superb trade proposals.

    • Dalek Jeter

      Wait really? Deleted the entire thing? He knows he can just delete the tweet right?

      • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

        It’s back up, with just this tweet.

        JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm · 1m
        I messed up. #confirmed

        • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

          Nevermind. Apparently someone squatted his old account, and is now only following fake Joel Sherman.

          lol

          https://twitter.com/JimBowdenESPNxm

          • Chip

            O man, that’s far too great

      • Patrick

        Yeah he deleted everything, then made a new twitter, then deleted THAT account and now he’s back on his original account with only one tweet:

        JIM BOWDEN ?@JimBowdenESPNxm 2m
        I messed up. #confirmed

        • ChipS56

          Twitter has not been kind to ESPN this last week.

          • Chip

            Twitter is just exposing how terrible ESPN is as a news service. I mean, the fact that they hired Jim Bowden as a voice of reason should be all you need to know

  • RetroRob

    So did I miss any baseball trades while I’ve been off working? : -)

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

      If not sarcasm, a lot.

      • RetroRob

        Yes, it was sarcasm. I’m actually just catching up, though.

        • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

          Just don’t try to read this thread.

          • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

            Yeah well, what else is new on RAB?

            • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

              Well, the reason why to not read the thread is new.

              • RetroRob

                I can imagine. I haven’t even bothered to flip up above to see what kind of insanity has generated 800+ notes.

  • EndlessJose

    If the Yankees don’t get something good in the deadline or make the postseason than Cashman and Oppenheimer should be fired for having a inferior farm.I know they don’t pick high in the draft but letting all these Cubans domainte for ther teams and not getting anything useful from the draft the past 5 years is inexcusable.

  • joeman

    give Reds Garner for Matt Latos

    • CMed21

      Give our best and most consistent hitter for a hurt pitcher that’s been struggling for a while, sure. If he goes in the DL we have an all star injured rotation with Tanaka, CC, Nova, Pineda.

    • Evan3457

      James Garner died recently.
      Or did you mean Phil? He works for the A’s now, so the Yanks can’t trade him.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      That’s not cool. James Garner just passed away.

      Jerk.

  • Evan3457

    As per tweets by Sherman and Rosenthal, A’s now getting a lot of calls on Hammel.

    I thought the Yanks might wind up trading for him, before the A’s got him. Now that he’s sucked for the A’s, it might actually happen.

    Wonder which top Yankee prospect Beanes would gouge the Yanks for?

    • Evan3457

      There’s only one Billy Beane.
      But at the deadline, he’s so active there seems to be more than one.

  • SweetSpot

    It’s sad the Yankees are becoming irrelevant. After Jeters gone the entire landscape and mojo changes.

    • Evan3457

      All good things…

    • TheRealGreg

      MLB needs the Yankees to be relevant. Because it gets them ratings and money

  • CountryClub

    Remember when some fans were crying over losing Abe?

    ——

    Confirmed: #Mariners gave up OF Abraham Almonte and RHP Stephen Kohlscheen in exchange for Padres’ Chris Denorfia.

    • Macho Man “Randy Levine”

      No, I just remember a fandom being renounced over David Adams being released.

    • ChipS56

      As one of those fans I still think Abe will be a good leadoff hitter.

      If Eppler gets the GM job out there at least he’ll have some familiar faces :-)

  • CMed21

    Give our best and most consistent hitter for a hurt pitcher that’s been struggling for a while, sure. If he goes in the DL we have an all star injured rotation with Tanaka, CC, Nova, Pineda.

    • CMed21

      Reply fail.

  • Missing Cano

    The Rays are nearing a deal for Price, tweets ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark.

    I guess Tigers. Escalation between A’s and Tigers right now. Like a poker game, Yankees need to stay away from playing in these waters this year. They are not good enough to go against those two pitching staffs.

    • Missing Cano

      1:33pm: The Cardinals may also still be involved on Price, per Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times (via Twitter). His source indicates that the Cards, along with the Tigers and Mariners, are the final possible suitors.

      Have to give it to the Cardinals. They are run fantastically. They are adding 3 pitchers to their pitching staff, making moves, replinishing a depleted pitching staff just amazing!!!!

    • Evan3457

      Tigers deal would have to start with Porcello or Smyly and go from there. Wonder who they have left to trade? Their farm system was slightly down, last I heard.

  • TheRealGreg

    Interesting that the Blue Jays, Yankees and M’s aren’t really going for it. M’s pick up Denorfia but that’s about it

    • Missing Cano

      M’s might be in on Price

      • TheRealGreg

        The last thing Seattle needs is pitching

    • Evan3457

      Jays still rumored in on Asdrubal Cabrera.

  • CountryClub

    Deadspin ?@Deadspin 10m
    ESPN’s Jim Bowden caught stealing scoop from fake Twitter account, panics, deletes everything.

    • Dan G

      Duh, it was Bowden’s own original thought it would have been:

      “Byrd traded to Yankees for Sanchez, Severino, Judge, Clarkin, Jeter, Cano, Cashman and John Sterling!!”

    • Pkyankfan69

      LOL… What a buffoon… I was driving home from a few morning appointments in Maryland when WFAN announced the “Byrd Trade”… I was very excited only to be crushed by the news that Bowden again proved what a moron he is… I don’t even use twitter and know how to tell which users are validated or not.

  • Pkyankfan69

    I don’t get why the general consensus for the Lester/Cespedes trade seems to be such a great trade for the Red Sox… They’re only getting Cespedes for 1 year (since they’re already finished this year.) Cespedes is a career .262/.318/.470/.788 hitter. While the power#’s will likely increase playing 1/2 his games in Boston, that is not a particularly impressive slash line. He definitely has been hyped up a bunch by the 2 HR Derby wins (and his arm is ridiculous also.)

    If I’m the Red Sox I would have much preferred a near MLB ready OF prospect like Joc Pederson… 6 years of team control of Joc Pederson > 1 year of control over Cespedes. Obviously don’t know if they could have made a deal like that or not though.

    • CMed21

      Because they got a right handed power bat that fits well in Fenway. Also if Lester resigns with Bostin they basically got Cespedes for free.

      • Old Man Time

        But that is a huge “if”. Not a given like so many are ready to proclaim.

      • Dan G

        That’s also assuming a team was willing to offer someone of Pederson’s caliber. Boston might have taken what they could get and hope for what CMed21 said (like NY probably should have done w/ Cano).

        Besides, Cespedes reminds me of Mike Cameron in his prime and you can do a lot worse on what amounts to 1 yr/$10 deal for a .250 hitter w/ 25+ HR and solid defense.

      • Jimmy

        His spray chart looks pretty good for Fenway. Lots of balls that would hit the big left field wall.

    • vicki

      dodgers were not going to trade joc for a lester rental. for price maybe. lester, no.

  • Bill

    Yanks should float Kuroda and Robertson out there and see who bites. Maybe include Ichiro in a deal and pay off the remainder of his contract.

    • Frank

      Absolutely. I’d even float Gardner out there.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      Yes, Ichiro will definitely draw enormous interest.

    • Jimmy

      Good suggestion, I really hope Cashman thought of that.

    • Chip

      Think they could get Trout back? It would hurt but I might do it

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

    Looks like Andrew Miller not going to Detroit.

  • Frank

    RS are the absolute winners. Get Cespedes, Craig and Joe Kelly. And more likely to come. They’ll sacrifice this season but may well win it all again next year.

    • Not an ace

      Their starting rotation and defense is terrible.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

        Yep. Clear winners are in Oakland.. so far. Not sure why Frank is referring to Craig and Kelly as if they’re good pieces. Boston will have a lot of work to do in the offseaon to contend… Starting with finding a new ace.

      • Frank

        Now yes. They can still trade and have the $$ to sign someone like Scherzer over the winter. You see, unlike the Yankees they know what their doing and have a good farm system.And I’m not a RS fan.

        • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

          Why would you trade your ace to sign one from elsewhere? Let’s not act like they don’t make mistakes either. I mean, look at them.. they’re brutal. The only reason they’re in the place to make these trades is because of how poorly they’ve done.

        • Old Man Time

          You’re a bigger Sox fan than half of Boston.

          • Chris

            Their farm system has been a little a bit hyped in the last few years in my opinion. Their “top rated” prospects haven’t panned out the way they were hoping.

        • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

          They were in last place 2 years ago and are in last place now.

          For a team that supposedly knows what they are doing, they sure do suck often.

          And while they definitely do have the $$ to sign Scherzer (or Lester), they haven’t shown any inclination that they’d be willing to shell out major $$ in a deal like that (or else they likely would have extended Lester a while ago).

    • Old Man Time

      I guess they have a backup 1st baseman that will be the integral cog to their WS victory.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

        +10

      • Frank

        I’ll bet you an internet dollar they win another WS before Yanks do.

        • Old Man Time

          Because they have a backup 1st baseman. Wear your Pedroia jersey with pride.

          • Frank

            You’d cream in your pants if the Yanks had Pedroia.

            • Chip

              We used to have Pedroia plus in Cano but I don’t recall finding any cream

            • Old Man Time

              It’s ok for you to come out of your Sox closet, Frank. This is 2014 after all.

            • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

              We used to have a 2b that was better than him and I didn’t have any accidents.

            • Get Phelps Up

              I know, like who WOULDN’t be awed by that 98 wrc+.

    • Evan3457

      All those guys come with “but”s.
      Also need to rebuild starting staff from scratch.

    • FIPster Doofus

      “They’ll sacrifice this season but may well win it all again next year.”

      Hahaha.

  • joeman

    Gardner

  • joeman

    with them playing much better BB didn’t think the Rays would trade Price away…depending what they get back I guess

  • Homebrew

    Cespedes numbers will improve quite a bit, I would assume, with Ortiz hitting behind him now. He will see more pitches to hit.

    • mitch

      except the As lineup is better than the Sox lineup. Also, protection isn’t a real thing.

    • HansDavenport

      He will be hitting in a nice friendly Home Run park also.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

    Asdrubal Cabrera has been traded courtesy of Paul Hoynes.

    • Evan3457

      Jays were looking at trying to get him.

    • Dan G

      To the Nationals. Likely opens up a spot for Lindor if they choose to bring him up. I think he’s only in AA but MLB.com seems to think his defense is MLB ready.

      Andrew Miller to BAL

  • ChipS56

    Asdrubal has been traded according to Paul Hoynes

  • mitch

    any truth to the rumor that Ben Cherington negotiated the deal on behalf of LOHUD that sent their entire community to RAB for an Axisa column to be written later?

    • Chip

      Jim Bowden just confirmed it

      • Chip

        Had to throw in Judge and Severino though

  • joeman

    1 more hour

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

    Asdrubal is going to Washington. Andrew Miller to Orioles.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

      Eduardo Rodriguez to the Red Sox, good pick up.

  • Evan3457

    Bob Nightengale tweets Rays are also talking to the Yankees now about Price.

    No idea if it means anything.

    • ChipS56

      Severino, Judge, Sanchez and Refsnyder for Zobrist and Price?

      • Winter

        Not enough.

    • Winter

      I’m guessing it’s meaningless, but can you imagine a front 3 of Price/Tanaka/Pineda in 2015?

      • FIPster Doofus

        I wouldn’t count on Pineda doing anything.

        • Winter

          This is all hypothetical. Obviously Pineda could stay hurt, the Yankees could (and probably will) not get Price, and Tanaka could need TJS.

      • Frank

        Or Price coming to the Yankees.

  • ChipS56

    Bob Nightengale says the NYY are in on David Price

  • Evan3457

    Red Sox trade Andrew Miller to Orioles tweets Jerry Crasnick.
    It better not be for Bundy, Gausman or Harvey, or I might have a stroke.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

      I just wrote above, Eduardo Rodriguez.

    • ChipS56

      Eduardo Rodriguez

      • Evan3457

        Baseball Prospectus in-person scouting report from June projects Rodriguez as a 4th-5th starter. Sox must think he’s more.

        • RetroRob

          Why? A 4th or 5th starter for a reliever is a good trade. David Phelps is a 4th or 5th starter, and I wouldn’t trade him for Miller.

  • FIPster Doofus

    @FeinsandNYDN 1m

    Am told Yankees could be making a late charge into the Price sweepstakes. Still seems unlikely unless NYY gives up multiple top prospects +.

    • Bret The Hitman

      My guess is because we lack top prospects, Gardner would have to be part of that deal.

      Gardner + Betances + Severino + Sanchez

  • CountryClub

    Ben Badler ?@BenBadler 49s
    Eduardo Rodriguez: Solid prospect, down year, back-end starter potential. Not much to pick from in Baltimore’s farm system.

  • Prestige Worldwide

    Crasnick reports that Andrew Miller is headed to Orioles.

  • Prestige Worldwide

    For Eduardo Rodriguez

  • CountryClub

    Mark Feinsand ?@FeinsandNYDN 48s
    Am told Yankees could be making a late charge into the Price sweepstakes. Still seems unlikely unless NYY gives up multiple top prospects +.

    • Evan3457

      Maybe they’ll trade Tanaka for him.

      /jk
      /bad pointless jk

    • wanzies222

      Deja vu to the Lohud site in June…. there were indications the FO would make a late run for Price or Hamels. We’ll see where this ends up.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

      Ken Rosenthal says it’s effectively impossible.

      • Chip

        Agreed, just no way the Yankees have the pieces

        • wanzies222

          Early conversations w/Tampa indicated that if Price was still around at the deadline, they’d talk. Likely 3 teams. That was in early June.

        • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

          I wouldn’t expect it. At least we’re not the Mets, who are going to be sitting. (A decision I agree with.)

          • Chip

            Sure would be nice if they were dumb enough to give us Murphy

            • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

              I want Murphy extended by the Mets, preferably at like 6/72 or something. I know his defense leaves a lot to be desired, but it’s the game.

              • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

                I should add, the Mets are a SS away from having an infield for years to come along with a RF and CF.

  • Paisa

    Yanks in Price discussion. Now this probably means very little, but if they’re serious then good for them. I’ve been clamoring for Price since early June, although I’d be hesitant to include Judge. Everyone else is fair game as far I’m concerned though.

  • Don’t Worry

    Yeah, but we got some guy off waivers from the Blue jays, you guys!

    • TC

      Incremental upgrade over?? Zach Nuding?

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

        Nuding just got promoted to AAA too for de la Cruz, if it tells you anything. I’d rather have Rogers for depth, not on the 40MR.

  • http://swaggerstadium.com Ben F

    Very interesting. What would it even cost to bring Price in? Sanchez would have to go for sure, severino too, probably. That extra year on the deal probably means theyll need Judge or Jagielo, so three of those four plus an arm–Phelps or Warren maybe? Is that even realistic?

    • Chip

      There is no sure-fire above average major leaguer in that group. Rays would balk at that price

      • Paisa

        I think if it happens it will be Murphy + Ref + whatever – headline guys that are closer to the bigs than Severino/Sanchez/Clarkin/etc. I disagree with the notion that they don’t have the pieces to get a deal done, but it is very unlikely considering that they’re the Yankees and the price is already astronomical.

  • Prestige Worldwide

    I honestly don’t think NY is in the chase here. They would have to be well above anyone else in baseball, and they just can’t match so many other teams without completely emptying the system, which they won’t do.

  • Frank

    It’s going to so hilarious in an hour reading the comments from some knucklheads blasting Cash and Yanks for doing nothing except getting Rogers.

    • Chip

      I find it hilarious now

      • Frank

        This is just the primer.

        • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

          It’s going to be a lot of fun.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      We agree.

      Damnit.

    • Get Phelps Up

      WHERE’S THE BACKUP FIRST BASEMAN?

  • Chip Rodriguez

    Jagielo, Sanchez, Bird and Whitley, plus cash, for Price. Who hangs up?

    • CMed21

      Rays wouldn’t even talk to the Yanks anymore. Severino, Judge, Sanchez, Clarkin, and a lot more is what they would have to offer.

    • Prestige Worldwide

      Tampa. Immediately.

      • RetroRob

        Tampa hangs up before they answer.

        • Chip

          Brian Cashman is calling? Tell him I’ll call him back, I’m dealing with serious proposals now

  • Evan3457

    Sherman tweet:

    In Peavy/Millers deals, #Redsox have augmented already powerful farm system, can be players for any star in trade market #giancarlo?

    Escobar very good prospect, but not a great one, Hembree is a live arm. Good prospects, not great prospects.
    Eduardo Rodriguez doesn’t seem to be a top prospect, either.

    • Mike

      I agree. I prefer our prospects.

  • Winter
    • Bubba

      Is this shocking or even mildly surprising to anyone?

  • Jamie

    How about letting Amonte play right field…16 home runs… 57 rbi… .823 OPS in 75 games at AAA.. let him play and see what happens… nobody else is better out there in a trade…

    Reysnder play 2nd base…13 home runs… 50 rbi… .919 OPS in 106 games at AA/ AAA… let him play and see what happens

    2 youngs guys that can give a potential spark and add some excitement…

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

      Refsnyder has cooled and Almonte isn’t hitting a lick yet.

      • CountryClub

        His bat has come back around. He’s 11 for 34 over past 9 games with 5 extra base hits.

  • joeman

    Gardner and a bunch for Price

    • Chip

      Trade our best hitter who is signed reasonably for the next four years plus our top prospects for a year and a half of Price? Somebody first Cashman and sign this guy to be GM, he’s a genius!

      • Chip

        First, fire, same thing. I just got too excited by joeman’s idea

  • Don’t Worry

    Cashman’s quote by tonight: “The best trade we could have made is for Beltran and McCann and Texiera to start hitting like the back of the baseball cards.” Which translates to: “My time here as GM is coming to a quick close, ladies and gents.”

    • Frank

      Also. “we’ll be getting Pineda back in a couple of weeks so that’s like the A’s getting Lester.”

    • Old Man Time

      You must have translated that with Babelfish.

  • Reggie C.

    Can see the Mariners give up Tajuan Walker for David Price. Walker is a better prospect than anything the Yankees could muster. If the Dodgers wanted to take a page from the Beane notebook and augment a pitching staff already having Kershaw and Greinke , then the Dodgers could offer Joc Pederson.

    Yankees aren’t in Price discussions unless they’re going in both Judge, Severino, and Clarkin.

    • Chip

      I would rather have Joc Pederson than 2 of Judge, Severino and Clarkin. Clarkin is too far away, Judge isn’t hitting for monster power and Severino is a good prospect but could get hurt any time. Give me the power hitting outfielder with great speed

  • will

    Derek Jeter is now the Yankees Dan Marino Dolphins of the 90’s. Mediocre and contend and get crappy draftpicks every year because they “almost made it” or “potential” The yankees should of held a firesale themselves.

    • Jorge Steinbrenner

      What?!?! Derek Jeter has fucking rings! Marino lost a Super Bowl his rookie year! What the fuck are you talking about?!?!

      I now realize the error of my ways and how bat it can truly be. Therefore, I am un-O:S’ing Greg.

      • Jorge Steinbrenner

        Five rings!!

      • Chip

        Ballsy move Cotton

    • Chip

      LACES OUT DEREK!

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      What would they sell in this “firesale” that you speak of?

    • CountryClub

      The yankees are 2 games out of the playoffs. That’s just the fact of the matter.

  • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

    The Scott Sizemore era has ended.

    Let’s all pause for a moment of silence.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

      It shouldn’t have ever started.

    • Old Man Time

      The RS claim Scott Sizemore; MLB 2015 season cancelled; RS given WS trophy.

      • HansDavenport

        Heh, heh. Oh that’s good.

  • CMed21

    Anyone have any idea what the Yankees could get for Betances if they put him out on the market(obv they’re not trading him)? If guys like Miller and Street are getting a lot I wonder what arguably the best bullpen arm in baseball this season with 6 more years of team control who’s payed pennies would fetch.

    • Chip

      Calling what they got for Miller a lot is a bit much. They got a guy who might be a fifth starter some day and is having a crappy season. Also, Street is a guy with a very long track record of dominance and experience as a closer which is, rightly or wrongly, highly valued so Betances wouldn’t bring back as much. You’re probably looking for less than the return for Sergio Santos and that was clearly an overpay

  • JKatlak

    Yanks are not getting Price. If the Red Sox didn’t trade Lester to a division rival, why would the Rays do it? Plus Yanks will absolutely have to give up Betances, Banuelos along with Sanchez and Judge. The price will definitely be higher for a division rival than it will be for others.

    • Prestige Worldwide

      This.

    • Slap-Ass

      I don’t think they’d absolutely have to give up Banuelos. He is worth dog poop right now.

      • Mike

        He has the ceiling of a top of the rotation starter.

  • Don’t Worry

    Whatever happened to $189mm?

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    If it’s a 3 team trade for Price, maybe the Yankees are in?

  • Evan3457

    Byrd is in the Phillies’ lineup tonight as of right now, so that’s probably that.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/Clay_Bellinger Clay Bellinger

      How does that matter whatsoever? They play at 7?

  • HansDavenport

    Looks like the Nats sent Minor league SS Zach Walters to Cleveland for Asdrubal Cabrera. I recall Walters looking okay the brief time he was in the majors. Thought they had him play corner IF though.

    • Evan3457

      He’s played all 3 infield positions and some outfield.
      Hit very well at AAA, but not so well in the majors.

      • HansDavenport

        He’s had 52 at bats with 3 Home runs and a .797 OPS. I wish Almonte had done that in his first 52 at bats.

  • joeman

    would you do a Gardner and DRob for Price…or would that not get it done

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

      That would make it no reason to get Price.

      • FIPster Doofus

        Correct. Plus, it would make no sense for Tampa.

    • Don’t Worry

      Plus Sanchez and O’Brien.

    • Blake

      Still trying to trade Gardner I see Joeman ;). He’s like their best player man…..

    • Bret The Hitman

      Gardner (has to be legit ML talent in the package) + Dellin Betances (Rays don’t want to pay DROB) + Severino (just scouting him and has to be top prospect) + Gary Sanchez

  • CountryClub

    Jayson Stark ?@jaysonst 1m
    Now hearing #Yankees are out on Marlon Byrd. #Phillies could be out of places to send him

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Ah, Rosenthal stating three team trade for Price.

    Chip- what do you think?

    • Chip

      M’s and Tigers? Man, wouldn’t that be something? I would think the M’s are probably getting Price while giving up Walker to the Rays, another starter to the Tigers and then the Tigers send a prospect (or Smyly?) to the Rays?

  • Chip

    Looks like Taijuan Walker just got word that he was traded

    https://twitter.com/tai_walker/status/494928863349055488

    • Evan3457

      Would have to be for Price.

      • Chip

        Agreed, Walker is now saying that he was just hungry

      • Get Phelps Up

        Price, Felix and Iwkuma could set a staff record for most losses in quality starts.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

      Says it was Twitter mistake.

  • Christ is King

    I believe the big splash the Yankees made in the market was during the International Signings… Still hoping we land Emery and Torres (haven’t heard anything on them)… Looks like Cashman is gonna lay low and when interviewed will give the “we tried but nothing worked” which is a testament to our farm system… I could be wrong.

  • Evan3457

    Stark tweets:

    Now hearing #Yankees are out on Marlon Byrd. #Phillies could be out of places to send him

    • Chip

      Idiots, he’s not going to be nearly this valuable ever again

    • Bubba

      This makes me very happy. Byrd always struck me as the ultimate buy high guy.

  • Evan3457

    Sox calling up Ranaudo to start against Yanks tomorrow.
    He’ll look like the ace he’s touted to be.

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Mariners then in on Price with Walker, in the deal?

  • Christ is King

    So far what do you think is the greatest part of the trade deadline for the Yanks?

    1. Esmil Rogers
    2. No Marlon Byrd over pay
    3. Bowden looking like a fool

    Id say 3 is winning by a mile over number 2

    • CountryClub

      All reports have the Phillies asking for a ridiculous return for Byrd. Just not worth it.

  • Prestige Worldwide

    The best thing to happen today is that Lester and possibly Price are out of the East.

  • CountryClub

    Pete Abraham ?@PeteAbe 1m
    Anthony Ranaudo has been told he will be starting for the #RedSox tomorrow against the #Yankees MLB debut for the Jersey native.

  • Don’t Worry

    The Phillies are gonna have a TON of old, overpaid players who underperforming. Good job, Mr. Amaro. I think he’ll be joining Cash in the “Time for New Blood” Club.

  • joeman

    Yankee Trader says:

    July 31, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    Mariners then in on Price with Walker, in the deal?
    ————————
    if I’m TB I rather have Paxton

    • Old Man Time

      That reply button is really hard.

    • Chip

      At what point do we ban people who do this? This can’t go on

  • nycsportzfan

    Wow, if the Phillies don’t fire Amaro, they are pretty dumb. Why in the world would they hold on to there old players at this point? Also, they traded a ton of prospects in recent yrs so could totally use a infusion of youth. Weird.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/roadgeek Roadgeek Adam

      Amaro should’ve been fired quite a while ago.

  • Dan A.

    Multiple reports include Buster Olney–Drew to Yanks. Better be for no more than a ham sandwich.

  • Adam
  • CountryClub

    Blake is finally getting his wish….

    Gordon Edes ?@GordonEdes 2m
    Hearing Steven Drew to the Yankees

    • http://RAB Yankee Trader

      No,please no Drew.

      Go get Prado instead from the DBacks, and find a SS in the offseason

      Aargh it’s true Drew to the Yankees but who do the RS get

      • RetroRob

        Kelly Johnson. A trade of no great consequence. Drew is better than Johnson. How they plan to use him is the more interesting question.

  • TheStraw

    Stephen Drew? Seriously?

    • Colonel

      He’s better than Roberts and a FA at the end of the year. So whatever.

  • itsallhowuseeit

    laughable, they had forever to sign this guy as he sat there for months. Now they make a deal where they actually have to give up something for him.

  • Don’t Worry

    Why wld the Yankees want Steven Drew?

  • Need Pitching & Hitting & Defense

    Stephen Drew????

    Ummm, why????

    Were they that desperate to avoid Roberts getting his next performance bonus????

  • Nuke Guy

    Stephen Drew? Disgusting.

  • CountryClub

    Blake is finally getting his wish….

    Gordon Edes ?@GordonEdes 2m
    Hearing Steven Drew to the Yankees

  • Adam

    Stephen Drew? yeah, cuz that’s the answer! Fuck you Cashman

  • Frankie Cerveddardi

    LOL! Mike finally got his white whale, Stephen Drew! And it makes absolutely no sense. Cashman has just done an awful job. We needed a power OF and he gets Stephen Drew.

  • Blake

    All is right in the world……WS here we come. In all honesty this makes the yanks better

  • Wedge

    Refsnyder isnt better than Drew?

    • RetroRob

      No, not yet, and Ref is not coming up until 2015.

  • Evan3457

    Yanks trade for Drew?!?

  • SweetSpot

    Blake orgasms getting Drew.

  • Charles

    Stephen Drew to the Yankees

  • Pkyankfan69

    Blake just pooed his pants

  • joeman

    According to ESPN Boston’s Gordon Edes, shortstop Stephen Drew has been traded to the Yankees
    ————————————–
    must be planning for next year…otherwise why bother

  • word

    Gordon Edes ?@GordonEdes 2m

    confirmed: Stephen Drew to Yankees

    Should cost Cashman his job

    Disgusted with the way this team is run.

  • joeman

    According to ESPN Boston’s Gordon Edes, shortstop Stephen Drew has been traded to the Yankees
    ————————————–
    must be planning for next year…otherwise why bother..they needed SPing

  • joeman

    According to ESPN Boston’s Gordon Edes, shortstop Stephen Drew has been traded to the Yankees
    ————————————–
    must be planning for next year…otherwise why bother..they need SPing

  • Patrick

    Probably didn’t cost much to get Drew so I don’t mind it. Start him at 2B and drop Roberts.

    Party at blake’s house to celebrate the trade!

  • Jeremy

    Stephen Drew to Yankees according to Edes. Confirmed by Olney.

  • joeman

    Drew..why bother

  • Patrick

    I guess Drew playing 2B is an upgrade over Roberts. Kind of weird that the Yankees gave up on Johnson though, isn’t he the backup 1B? I suppose if Tex gets hurt again McCann at first and Cervelli catching is probably a better combination.

    Party at blake’s house to celebrate the trade!

    • RetroRob

      McCann, Cervelli, Ryan…

      Any of them can be the back-up 1B’man and play as poorly as Johnson did with the glove.

  • RetroRob

    Did someone break RAB?

  • joeman

    why would they want Drew…keep on throwing it against the wall

  • Get Phelps Up

    The Rays are getting just Nick Franklin for Price?

    That seems…light.

    • TC

      Drew Smyly also.

    • RetroRob

      Nick Franklin was not part of the Price trade. It was a separate transaction, with Franklin being traded one-for-one for Jackson.

      I don’t think we know yet all the players involved in the Price deal.

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Austin Jackson pulled from CF to say goodbye during game to pack and go to Mariners

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Drew for Kelly Johnson

    • RetroRob

      Scatches head.

    • Hawkeye

      Wait a second…nope, still don’t get it.

  • trollhunter

    Time FOR CASHMAN TO GET THE F OUT

  • joeman

    he’s not trader Cash…he just spends the team’s money and picks up garbage

  • Don’t Worry

    Aaaand the 1960’sing of the Yankees has begun anew. Joy.

  • joeman

    I think A Jackson is part of that deal..going to Sea

  • Frank

    And another trade period has passed with the Yanks basically doing squat. All that build up, no release. They must have some set of blue balls.

    • Chip

      They got a new third baseman, a new second baseman, a new fourth starter and a new right fielder in trades. How is that doing nothing?

  • Evan3457

    Gave up Kelly Johnson for Drew is the rumor. No big deal.
    Might be the SS for next year, if they can get Boras to be semi-reasonable.

    FWIW: last 13 games, Drew: .267/.377/.511 with 10 K and 8 BB.

    /SSS

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Drew Smyley also to Rays

  • Evan3457

    Walker, Smyly and Franklin for Price.

    That’s representative. And no, Yanks couldn’t match that.

    • Evan3457

      Pull that back down. False rumor, as far as I know.

      • Evan3457

        Just MLB people throwing the bull.
        Might be true, probably not true.
        On the Walker thing, I mean.

      • TC

        Yeah, seems there is still a lot of info to come out on this one. Franklin and Smyly doesn’t seem enough to me. There are mentions of Walker also, but then Walker and Franklin would seem like too much for AJax.

        • Evan3457

          Heyman says that Walker is NOT in the deal.

  • mustang

    Now we all know how Mike gets paid from YES in favors because the got him Stephen Drew.
    I understand Cashman holding the line on prospects with this team, but lets face it folks the fat lady just arrived on 2014 Yankees season.

    • Don’t Worry

      yepyep

  • Don’t Worry

    Fi-ire Cash-Man! Fi-ire Cash-Man!

  • Doreen

    Just pitiful.

    • TripleShortOfACycle

      What did you want them to do?

  • adeel

    I’m going to defend Cash. He managed to upgrade the team while NOT sacrificing the farm. All the trades that went down throughout the league (except maybe Milone) could NOT be matched by the Yanks. Even if they did have the players to get it done, the team is not worth sacrificing the farm for.

    I think if we had Boston’s record, we would be selling. And if Boston had the record we have, then they would be buying.

  • Zach

    This is what happens when you don’t have a farm system.

  • JKatlak

    LOL Tigers got Price for Smyly and Nick Franklin. Talk about getting fleeced if you’re Tampa.

  • RetroRob

    So where is Prado going to play? RF?

    • Frank

      I’d say that’s the plan, yes.

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Did the Yankees just get Prado?

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Prado to the Yankees for?

    • TheStraw

      Peter O’Brien.

  • HansDavenport

    Just a test

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Prado can play everywhere in the infield except C and SS plus plays corner OF.

    Was clutch for the Braves.

    Who did the Yankees give up?

  • AnskyPhillips

    We got Martin Prado for “catching” prospect Peter O’Brien.

    Prado is owed $11 mill in each of 2015 and 2016 (which we will pay all of) and he can play 2B, 3B, and corner OF.

  • joeman

    Pardo..Drew LMAO…

  • joeman

    Pardo hasn’t been good for a few years

    • Mel

      yep Joeman…”Pardo” hadn’t been good since he broke his hip…now Prado the baseball player…could be a different story…might need to readjust your meds.

    • Mel

      Joeman time to readjust those meds…they’re talking about Prado the baseball player…not Don Pardo the announcer…but you’re right…he hasn’t been the same since he broke his hip.

  • Coolerking101

    Looking at the A’s and Detroit, it’s clear the Yankees are not in the same class. The Yankees moves are just depressing.

    There better be a huge hole in O’Brien’s swing….cause if there’s one thing the Yanks can’t afford to lose, it’s a power hitter.

    • Chip

      There are Lindsay Lohan sized holes in O’Brien’s swing

  • trollhunter

    Great day for utility men aquisitions. Always been Cashmans strongpoint. I dont understand this team. I have no more words.

    • Chip

      Yes, if only they could have gotten Allen Craig. Seriously, I really hope you actually don’t have any more words

      • trollhunter

        I found some just for you Chipster go f yourself

        • Chip

          I mean, I could be mad but you used the reply button so I guess I’ll take it as a win

          • trollhunter

            Of course win goes to Chippy. I wouldnt deprive a sad little troll a win so he can feel could about himsellf when his little troll head hits the pillow tonight.

            • Chip

              His little troll head will feel so good when it hits his pillow tonight after seeing all the stupidity your kind has spewed here today

      • adeelmd

        The yankee equivalent of what the tigers gave up would be Gardner, Warren, and O’brien. Hey, that would be a better package than what Tampa got, but don’t remember there is always a higher price to pay to trade within your own division and especially to the yankees. Realistically though, that sacrifice would have been too much for Price (or lester) given how this team is constructed.

  • Niko

    Cashman: No, hear me out guys. What if we get a bunch of bad players instead.
    FO: …and then what?
    Cashman: That’s all I got.
    FO: Go for it!

  • http://RAB Yankee Trader

    Like the moves Cashman has made during July. Prado will be the 2nd baseman next season if Headley resigns with the Yankees and ARod, well who know what will happen there?

    Still concerned about the bullpen and fatigue, but it suppose they can pick up a salary dump in August, like Lee if his elbow hasn’t fallen off.

    Roberts and Sizemore out.
    Prado has played first, sparingly. He should be better than McCann when Tex goes down again.

  • tollhunter

    Really Cashman you couldnt at least get Craig to play the outfield and back up FRAGILE. TEX?? Boston getting Craig reninds me of when they got light hitting BIG FATTY and turned him into a star.

  • doofus

    Tris