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Fan Confidence Poll: August 31st, 2009

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Given the team's current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees' overall future?
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  • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

    9 for me. Team is clicking all over. BP has been very good, SP very good and the O just keeps getting hits.

    I wonder if they can get Posada and Jeter to 20 hr.

  • Jeremy

    9 for me, which is unusual. Probably due to having been at the Mitre game and still living in a state of wonderment.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Confidence Level: 10.

    (Again, finally).

    I like this Joba plan better than all the other Joba plans. And that was the only concern I had left. Nothing stands in the way of a decade of Yankee dominance.

    (Kazmir and Wagner? Bitch and please.)

    • http://twitter.com/JamalG Jamal G.

      Oh, and for all those who say that the Yanks have something to worry about in regards to Andy Pettitte and Joba Chamberlain as the third and fourth starters in October, in response, I say a resounding *”child, please;” I’d like to know what other playoff-contending AL team has a deeper rotation than the Yanks. I’d like to know what other team boasts four starting pitchers in the top-34 leaderboard for AL starters in regressed tRA.

      *Watch Hard Knocks. Chad OchoCinco says “child, please” is just a nicer way of telling someone “fuck you.”

    • Andy In Sunny Daytona

      I hear Kazmir catches bullets with his teeth.

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    9. Things are going great but there are always things that could be better.

    /cliche’d

    I am, however, incredibly excited for the rosters to expand. Getting a look at the young guys (and a second look at Pena/Cervelli) is going to be great.

  • V

    9 for me as well, ESPECIALLY if Mitre and Gaudin are respectable this season and next. Damaso Marte too.

    Btw, we just met Kei Igawa, and my wife got his autograph, heh!

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Btw, we just met Kei Igawa, and my wife got his autograph, heh!

      … and then she promptly hit a homer off him.

      http://www.instantrimshot.com

      • V

        Nah, just a double, lol.

  • Makavelli

    7-8 for me. They are playing very good baseball and if the confidence level was just solely based on the regular season I would give it a 9 or a 10 even.

    What I’m worried about are the short series’ against teams with dominant pitching. The Angels added a pitcher who dominated us this year (even though he had an ERA above 6.00). They destroyed us going into the All Star break despite being on a hot streak. The Red Sox we’ve been playing very well against as of late but you never know what you’re going to get against them in the playoffs. It always interesting. The Tigers have Verlander and company and have a very good offense as well.

    CC doesn’t have a very good history in the post season, AJ Burnett has been either filthy or real bad…he’s streaky, Joba is a question mark, and Mitre/Gaudin is real bad. Our offense is incredible…but it’s been incredible the past several years and we haven’t made it out of the 1st round since 2004.

    I’m kind of nervous but I do have confidence because we’ve been playing so well. I just hope it carries through.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside
      • Makavelli

        TSJC,

        These are wild concerns though. These are pretty legitimate no?

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Makavelli: I’ve never ever said that any of your concerns are not valid. Just saying, you tend to make them more pressing and more dire than they are, on a repeated basis.

          You need to experience the power of positive thinking. This team is the balls. The Angels and Red Sox teams are far more flawed than we are, and we’re going to mop the floor with them.

          If you can’t be confident in this team, I don’t know if there’s any ever team you could possibly be confident in. Ever.

          • Makavelli

            I love this team more than anything. I do believe we’re nasty. Although after the past 5 years or so it seems that we were built for the regular season and that’s it. This year, we actually have really good pitching to boot. I just hope these guys can stick with it. I mean we had Randy Johnson and Wang in the past and they used to get bopped around in the playoffs (albeit, Randy wasn’t in his prime but still).

            I have confidence. I’m not trying to scare people or bring everybody’s spirits down. I’m just trying to bring up valid concerns. I have confidence in this team.

            That being said. What are your predictions for the National League side of the playoffs?

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              That being said. What are your predictions for the National League side of the playoffs?

              I predict that the Phillies, Cardinals, and Dodgers will fight to the finish for the privilege of getting swept by us in the Fall Classic.

              • Makavelli

                Does everybody still stick by the Phillies being our hardest opponent in the WS due to all of the lefties in the rotation?

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  There’s no such thing as a “hardest opponent”.

                  Confidence Level = 10

  • pat

    8. Hard to not be too optimistic. Barring a prolonged slump, we’ve secured home field as well as the best record in baseball. Now we just have to excise those postseason demons that have plagued us the past few years. Gotta bitch slap those Angels, Arod needs to be Arod and everybody else needs to do their job.

  • Riddering

    10.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, temper my feelings, be reasonable, euphoria leads to the dark side. I get it.

    But it won’t change my confidence! I’m certain we’re going to hit 100 wins this season and have no worries at all about taking the division. Next year I think we’ll be in even better shape for the future and then Jesus will Arrive and all will be well for years and years.

  • Sam

    8. Our pitching in the playoffs concerns me a little. Should bump to 9 when we clinch a playoff berth.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Should bump to 9 when we clinch a playoff berth.

      We’re currently at a 99.5% likelihood of making the playoffs. We’ve clinched already, for all intents and purposes.

      http://www.coolstandings.com/b.....gs.asp?i=1

      • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

        Pffft, try 99.87773%.

        http://tinyurl.com/pwvab

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Kiss the baby and start the bus.

    • Makavelli

      8. Our pitching in the playoffs concerns me a little. Should bump to 9 when we clinch a playoff berth.

      How does clinching a playoff birth lesson your concern on the pitching staff in the playoffs? lol

      • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

        i think the period in there means they are two separate sentences…

  • Kiersten

    Staying strong at a 9 since that Boston sweep in the Bronx. Love this team.

  • Jose

    My confidence has not changed throughout the entire course of the season. It remains at a 10. Then again, my confidence for the organization back in 1990 was a 10. I cannot lose faith in the ultimate Yankee goal of winning championships.

  • Frank

    8. My main concern is the BP, specifically Bruney,Coke and D-Rob. Not real confident in them in a close game, much less a playoff game.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Good thing the odds of those guys actually getting into a close game in the playoffs is small. When push comes to shove, we’ll see Hughes and Aceves handle the load. Especially in the playoffs.

      • Makavelli

        Who, out of the post season bullpen roster, does come in…in a close or late game?

        This question is enhanced even more when Joba is in there and seemingly leaves in the 5th inning or so…

        • Chris

          6th/7th: Aceves
          8th: Hughes
          9th: Mo (or more likely Bruney, Coke or Robertson as we’ve probably tacked on 4 or 5 runs in the 7th and 8th innings against the crappy middle relievers that every other team runs out there).

          • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

            Marte says ‘wtf?’

      • Chris

        Do you think that by the time the playoffs come around Marte will have moved ahead of Coke on the lefty reliever depth chart?

        • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

          Considering that Girardi used Marte with a one run lead in the seventh and Coke in the ninth once the game got out of hand yesterday, I’d say it’s already happened.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

            That.

            Considering that Damaso Marte has already established himself as a dominant, lights-out LHP reliever over much of the past decade, I’d say that Coke needed to be AWESOME to avoid losing his spot to Marte. Damaso gets the benefit of the doubt, and he’s shown that he’s good to go.

            • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

              I haven’t seen Damaso Marte be anything but awful for the Yankees. Therefore, his track record does not matter and the Yankees have no option to face left handed batters. They are screwed in the playoffs and will be doomed.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      Brian Bruney, August, 2009:
      8 games, 10.0 IP, 45 batters faced, 9 H, 6 BB, 5 K, 1 R, 0 HR, 0.90 ERA

      David Robertson, August, 2009:
      11 games, 9.2 IP, 45 batters faced, 11 H, 4 BB, 17 K, 3 R, 1 HR, 2.79 ERA

      As for Coke, I got nothing. He’s got a definite gopherball problem, and I can understand you not being confident in him. Silver lining: now that Marte’s back, Coke is relegated back to #2 lefty out of the pen status, as he was intended to be initially.

      • Makavelli

        10 walks in 19.2 innings from 2 of our projected playoff relievers is a tad concerning.

        You combine that with 20 hits in 19.2 innings and it doesn’t serve up to be a tasty recipe. The 17 K’s from Robertson is very nice while the 5 K’s (and 6 BB’s) for Bruney are very disappointing.

        The ERA’s are very nice…but so wasn’t Joba’s ERA with 6+ days rest…for a little while despite having pretty bad numbers. And it eventually caught up to him.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Your ability to find the dark stormcloud of fear and sadness in every given dataset is unparalleled.

          • Alex

            i agree. have some confidence, it won’t let you down.

          • Chris

            The problem is really with Bruney. Robertson has been great. I’ll take 4 BB in 9.2 IP when 17 of the 29 outs are Ks. Bruney has a nice shiny ERA, with none of the peripherals to back it up. When you lump them together, it looks bad, but doesn’t really tell the whole story.

            • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

              I’ll take 4 BB in 9.2 IP when 17 of the 29 outs are Ks.

              Yep. How do you counteract walks? With a fuckton of strikeouts. What does D-Rob get? A fuckton of strikeouts.

              • pat

                Mmm fuckton, is that metric?

                • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

                  blame canada.

          • Makavelli

            LOL. Sorry. I don’t really have much of a concern with Robertson…Bruney makes you sweat a little bit though. And Coke needs to find himself a good crossword puzzle to enjoy for most (if not all) of the playoffs…

  • Henry

    I hope we see NOTHING BUT Hughes, taking the 7th and 8th with a little mix of Ace so we don’t burn out Hughes and a little bit of Marte here and there and then game over. There isn’t even a 9th inning. Quite frankly, I’m not too sure if there will even be a 7th or 8th if Hughes keeps up the dominating performance out of the pen(not taking into account his rust and lack of use lately obviously.)

    • Henry

      Marte specifically for lefties of course

  • http://twitter.com/JamalG Jamal G.

    For everyone expressing concerns about the Yankees’ rotation in the playoffs, please, explain to me what other playoff-contending AL team’s rotation you would take over the Yanks?

    Everything is relative, holmes.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      CC-AJ-Andy-Joba are better than (or, at your most pessimistic, equal to):

      Weaver-Lackey-Santana-Kazmir
      Beckett-Lester-Wakefield-Buchholz
      Shields-Garza-Neimann-Price
      Verlander-Jackson-Washburn-Porcello
      Pavano-Baker-Blackburn-Duensing
      Buerhle-Floyd-Danks-Peavy
      Millwood-Feldman-Holland-Nippert

      I’ll take our foursome over all those other foursomes. Every day of the week and twice on doubleheaders.

      • Henry

        I’m glad you’re soo confident that our staff is that much better. Here us the way I look at it.
        CC, AJ, Pettite, Joba

        vs.

        Beckett(toss-up), Lester (toss-up), Wakefield(adv. Yanks), Bucholz(inclined to say Yanks, but Ill just stay safe and call this one a toss-up depending on which Joba shows up)

        Verlander(toss-up), Jackson (toss-up), Washburn(adv. yanks), Porcello (again, inclined to say Yanks especially since Joba has been a monster vs. Detroit this year, it’s just that Porcello might just be as equally good as Joba).

        So in general, although we might have the better rotation, it’s very very close. And no matter what the outcome, as I mentioned we clearly have the adv. In our No.3 slot, Andy IMHO will be huge for us ESP. if he can hold true to that adv. we have in the No. 3 slot.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Which is why I said, if you’re a natural pessimist and think that CC and AJ will be just good rather than dominant and Andy and Joba will be thoroughly mediocre instead of good… even if you take that dim view of the Yankees rotation, we’re still at bare minimum break-even with all the other rotations in the playoff hunt.

          At our worst, it’s a tie. At our best, it’s a walkover.

      • Chris

        Wakefield can barely walk. Does he even count as a starter anymore?

        And it’s pretty comical that a team could be contending for a playoff spot with Pavano at the top of their rotation.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          Don’t look now (okay, you can), but Pavano’s actually been damn effective for the Twins. He’s their best pitcher by far, the only good starter they’ve had all year.

          (Which is why they may make a trade for Rich Harden.)

        • Zack

          But he was an All Star this year!!!

          But seriously, he’s getting a cortison shot today for his back. He was out for 2 months, came back made 1 start and now they have to skip him. Not even Red Sox fans are counting on him this year.

        • Matty Ruggz

          Wakefield can toss knuckleballs out of a wheelchair if he has to.

          • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

            but teh buntz!

    • pat

      Detroit is still pretty scary. We’re a better all around team than them but Verlander and Jackson are pretty formidable.

      Verlander vs NYY- 14ip 1.29 ERA 15k 2ER 1.07 whip
      Jackson vs NYY- 13ip 1.39 ERA 8k 2ER 1.15 whip

      I understand we beat them both once this year and but it was due to herculean pitching effort from our guys. For some reason if CC and AJ scuffle we would find ourselves in a most unenviable position.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        CC and AJ v. Detroit offense >>>>>>>>>>> Verlander and Jackson v. our offense

        • Makavelli

          Yankees 2006 Playoff offense >>>>> Kenny Roger’s Roasters

          But we all knew how that ended up being. lol

          /Debbie Downer’d

      • http://twitter.com/JamalG Jamal G.

        Not singling you out, but why does it seem that people tend to be more “realistic (IMO, quite pessimistic) when evaluating players on their own team, but tend to give the benefit of the doubt to players on non-rivals?

        • Chris

          It’s the exact opposite with prospects though. A fan will far overvalue their own prospects, but discount other teams.

          • http://twitter.com/JamalG Jamal G.

            Exactly. It’s really weird.

        • Zack

          It’s probably because the 2-3 games we watch them they play great.
          They just look at end of year numbers and oh Verlander and Jackson were great all season and never pitched a bad game, why cant CC/AJ be a true 1-2 punch like that? But then dont look and see Jackson has a 4.10 era post AS break and .290 BAA, or that Verlander has given up 5+ runs 5x this season.

      • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

        Jackson has been coming back down to earth into average land, so no I don’t find myself very concerned by him.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      This.

  • Henry

    To tell you the truth. Now that I think about it, guys just bear with me. It wouldn’t be duh a bad idea to have on your top prospects that are ready for ML action to spen one full year in the pen to get a little taste before being thrown into the fire, that is, as long as there are no big holes in the rotation. Because as itsbbeen said many times before. A good starter will always make a good, if not excellent reliever. And we can use that pitcher as the 6th and 8th inning guy that way he is constantly getting 2inning outing out of the pen so he won’t nd the year with something like 40-60IP. And instead end up with 80-120 IP. And he’ll have some built up confidence and a good number of innings under his belt for next year when/if he’s ready to crak the rotation. A bit out of the ordinary, I know. But IMHO it doesn’t seem like too bad of an idea. What do you guys think?

    • Henry

      7th and 8th innings. Sorry. Lots of typos. Doing it from my phone.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      And we can use that pitcher as the 6th and 8th inning guy that way he is constantly getting 2inning outing out of the pen so he won’t and the year with something like 40-60IP. And instead end up with 80-120 IP.

      People keep suggesting this. It never happens because it’s logistically impossible. There are too many varied circumstances during the course of a 162 game season to get a single reliever 90, 100, 110, or 120 innings in a single year (unless they’re also spot starting). Too many game situations that dictate against it, too many other guys that need work and would rust away, too big of a workload on irregular rest for one pitcher to bear.

      It doesn’t happen. If you’re putting a young pitcher in the pen because you think it’s good for his development, you have a good and valid argument that I agree with on principle (if not necessarily in practice). But he’s going to throw 60 innings, tops. That’s life. Bullpen guys don’t throw 100 innings. It just doesn’t happen.

      • Henry

        Yea, I hear everything you’re saying, and quite frankly, I agree, I didn’t really think it through to that extent. Ts just something I thought of here since I’m bored and in class. And my prof. Is just b.s.ing his way through the first day of class.

        • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

          So he spends the first half of the year working on secondary pitches and building innings.

          Spends the second half spot starting, mopping up, long relief or just a few 2 innings appearances, all depending on his inning limits. You can vary high/low leverage, etc. Next year he does the same or becomes your #5 guy (or reliever, depending on just how well he did…total fail, start over in AAA again).

          Tough part is to do that with 5 pitchers…

      • Chris
        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

          And you had to:

          A) go back 13 years to find that and
          B) use the great Mariano Rivera, a/k/a “The Human Outlier”

          • Chris

            Just because no one has done it doesn’t mean that no one can do it. I went back to him because I remembered him off the top of my head.

            If you want a more recent example, here’s one:
            http://tinyurl.com/ltlp7k

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

              But again, what’s Ace going to end up at? 75 IP, tops?

              That’s not “80-120 IP”.

              • Chris

                He has 65 IP in 4 months. If you extrapolate his innings to include April and September, then he would have ended up at 95-100IP.

                Innings pitched by month:
                May: 19.2
                June: 13.2
                July: 15.0
                August: 19.0

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

                  Okay, good point. I forgot about his minor league numbers from April.

                  Still, though, my two rejoinders:

                  1) Ace has flirted with injury this year, so it’s not like the 95-100 IP came without any concerns
                  2) Ace is 26 (almost 27) and has a much smaller ceiling. So, we are more willing to gamble with his arm, because he’s not a blue-chip prospect and because he’s older and more mature.

                  I’ll concede it’s possible (the 90 IP goal, not the 120 IP goal… that’s insane). But it’s still highly improbable.

                • Chris

                  2) Ace is 26 (almost 27) and has a much smaller ceiling. So, we are more willing to gamble with his arm, because he’s not a blue-chip prospect and because he’s older and more mature.

                  I agree with this 100%. I think this is why they were willing to use him in the way they have. I would hope that seeing his success would lead to a willingness to use more pitchers in this manner, and get their innings up to about 100IP out of the pen. Guys with very high upside (like Hughes and Joba) are better options in the rotation, but the next tier of guys (like Nova) could be very effective and have more value that simply as a regular middle reliever.

                  Aceves is also a unique case because he throws so few pitches. Out of the 160 pitchers with at least 60IP, he’s 9th in fewest pitches per IP at 14.7. It’s particularly impressive that he’s maintained a K rate over 7 K/9IP despite throwing so few pitches.

                  I guess the bottom line is that it may not work out for anyone else, but I want some team to try it!

  • JSquared

    10. DEREK JETER!! D E R E K J E T E R Need I say more? NO.

    First place, Cruise Control, Wins are almost automatic… CC and AJ in September October Mode… The Reason they’re here. Defense is Best i’ve seen in a while.

    Further Future… Jairo Heredia only one bad start in Tampa, Montero is resting with an injury, i’m not worried. Austin Jackson going to have time to develop a little more. Banuelos and Noesi in Charleston look good. The Bats are clicking on all levels, JR Murphy loos great.

  • Kiersten

    In other news, 7 games against Baltimore and Toronto coming up. Can we sweep this week away please?

    • Chris

      Do you think going 7-0 this week would push the average confidence level over 9.0?

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        No.

        “Big deal, those are just scrub teams that won’t be in the playoffs WE STILL CAN’T BEAT THE ANGELS OH NOOOES?!?!?!?”

        • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

          if they’d lot tjsc vote 107, then yes :)

  • Reggie C.

    9.
    The lead is holding.

    I think Aceves is facing a taxing mth ahead. Joba rules are more important than concerns of tiring Ace (harsh but true). Damaso has got to get more game action.

    • Zack

      Rosters expand tomorrow, you’re going to have extra arms in the bullpen. No one in the bullpen is going to be overworked.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      I think Aceves is facing a taxing mth ahead.

      I’m hoping that we have some nice offensive outbursts against some of our weaker opponents on Joba’s starts (like Toronto this week) that allows us to give some low-leverage innings to Albaladejo and Edwar, who should be the other two designated long-men so that Ace doesn’t have to shoulder all the Joba-shadowing himself.

  • http://www.secondavenuesagas.com Benjamin Kabak

    The two people who voted 1 should really own up to it and explain why.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      It’s probably Whitey14 and Robert Goulet.

    • pat

      Trolls no doubt. Joba or hughes to the pen, and some other a-hole.

    • Makavelli

      There is no explanation. People put 1 to try and be funny. I call it the “Halo 3 Routine”. The best map to play on will come up and people will ‘veto’ it just to be an asshole. And if you tell them to not veto it? They’ll veto it just because you told them not to…out of spite.

      Here, we’re asking an honest opinion but those same personalities (as the Halo 3 bunch) will click 1 and submit just to giggle amongst themselves.

      Oh well…

    • http://twitter.com/Hopjake Jake H

      I would like to know. Probably some boston fans

      • Makavelli

        I live on the MA border of CT and all of my friends are Sox fans…and while they try to stay confident…even they give credit where credit is due.

        Which they never normally did before…

        So that’s nice at least.

        And this is why I get angry and pessimistic. I’m always postive when arguing with them…then need to vent somewhere and/or ask questions in order to have somebody response boosting my confidence again. Unfortunately that place is here lol. But it does boost my confidence…so that’s good.

    • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

      Sometimes I vote 1 as a joke, but it wasn’t me this time.

    • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

      shouldnt allow a one…

      OR

      randomly pull one name from each number, publicize it, and let them defend themselves :D

  • Tom Zig

    I understand Kazmir being a significant addition…but Billy Wagner?

  • Tank Foster

    I’d like either 2 fan confidence polls (this season, and the next 5 years), or, if it’s one poll, to say something more specific than “overall future.”

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

      YOU’LL TAKE WHAT YOU GET AND LIKE IT!!!!!

  • Mattingly’s Love Child

    I’m sitting on an 8. I went up earlier in the year to a 9, but I think that was premature for me. My confidence for this year is worrisome about Burnett’s hot and cold nature, Pettite’s age (he’s been pitching great, but I’m not 100% confident he can continue this), and the roller-coaster that is Joba. I love the Yankees’ lineup, the defense is much improved, and the bullpen is solid. They definitely match up well against all of the other contenders in those aspects.

    What it comes down to is that the playoffs are a crapshoot. If Lester pitches up to his ability and Burnett lays an egg, that’s a loss. But at the same time, if Burnett is lights out, it’s a win against pretty much anyone. The Yankees have done a very good job of improving their odds in the crapshoot. Having 3 starting pitchers that get strikeouts is a good thing for the postseason. But unless Burnett and Joba start showing more consistency, I’m not sure I can go higher than an 8.

    • Kiersten

      Burnett really hasn’t been too “hot and cold” lately. Since mid-June, he’s had 2 bad starts. Granted a bad start could come in October, but I’d say the chances of him pitching like he did in the 15-inning game are far greater than the chances of him pitching like he did last Saturday. Just don’t let him anywhere near the mound at Fenway Park.

      • Mattingly’s Love Child

        I’m pretty sure Burnett was pretty damn good against the Red Sox at Fenway when he was with the Jays. So I wouldn’t say that. But it would still worry me.

        Granted, I probably wouldn’t worry about Burnett vs the Tigers lineup. More the Red Sox and Angels. Teams that have been hitting well this year or have hit him well this year.

        2 really bad starts in the past month are coloring my judgement, but I’m also not a fan of 12 baserunners in 6 innings against the Jays on 8/12. So 3 out of his last 6 haven’t been great.

        • Kiersten

          I definitely agree with you, but those bad starts can happen to any good/great pitcher, you just gotta hope you get lucky and they don’t happen in October.

  • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

    Jerry Hairston Jr. is going to be a playoff hero this year. He’ll have a few big hits and big plays this October, and he’ll be lionized in the press. Reams of newsprint and gigs of digital video.

    He’s about to be Scotty Bro-ized. You heard it here first.

    • Tom Zig

      CC Sabathia will hit a walk off HR in Game 7. This is after we have to pinch hit for the DH for some reason.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside

        False.

        There will be no Game 7’s. None.

        • Makavelli

          If there is…will you boycott the game? lol

          • Sweet Dick Willie

            And if there is, it’s at YSIII. (AL won the ASG)

    • Makavelli

      Does he start any of the playoff games? Or does he get inserted in ala Dave Roberts style…(although perhaps in a different role than DR)

    • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

      he can just hit it himself in game five…should be in philly with him batting, no?

      :)

  • mryankee

    I am still not convinced I think this team is short a relaible starter. Joba to me has been a relative disappointment. I hate to agree with John Kruk but guys like Felix Hernandez and Clayton Kershaw did not need this treatment. They are now entrenched in the starting rotation.

    • pat

      Both were professional pitchers by the age of 18. JOBA WAS AN UNHERALDED FRESHMAN IN JUCO. THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE

    • Chris

      But they did. They just got those innings out of the way in the minors.

      Here are Kershaw’s innings pitched totals by year:
      37-122-169-153(so far this year)

      Here are Felix’s IP by year:
      69-149-172-191-190-201-185(so far this year)

      The first years aren’t true innings counts for the year, because Felix was in short season ball and probably threw in extended spring training before the season and Kershaw’s don’t count anything he threw in the spring before being drafted.

      The largest innings increase in one year was 47, which is close to where Joba will be this year. You don’t hear about it because it happened in the minors, but every team looks at these issues (well, all the good ones at least).

      • Zack

        And this just in- the Phillies have shut down top prospect Kyle Drabek. Why you ask? You guessed it- INNINGS. Wow they baby their pitchers with their unorthadox Kyle Rules that no other organization follows.

        http://www.philly.com/inquirer.....early.html

  • mryankee

    Well I don’t see that a kid who is 21 years old and if I am not mistaken Joba pitched at Nebraska. If this was the case 2 questions why does he resemble a young Jaret Wright lately and why dopitchers who are younger are able to pitch all year without innings limits?

    • pat

      I’m sorry that you don’t understand this.. I’ll try and simplify it for you.

      Age 17

      Felix Hernandez-69.0-professional
      Clayton Kershaw-High School
      Joba Chamberlain-Highschool

      Age 18
      Felix Hernandez- 149 IP
      Clayton Kershaw- 37 IP- Professional
      Joba Chamberlain-31.1 (highschool)

      Age 19
      Felix Hernandez-172 ip (Minors+Majors)
      Clayton Kershaw- 131 IP
      Joba Chamberlain- 118 Ip- College

      Age 20
      Felix Hernandez- 191 IP
      Clayton Kershaw- 168.3 IP
      Joba Chamberlain- 89.1 IP(college)… battled arm problems all year.

      Age 21
      Felix Hernandez- 190 IP
      Clayton Kershaw -153 IP.. so far
      Joba Chamberlain – 112 IP (first pro season)

      Age 22
      Felix Hernandez-190.1
      Joba Chamberlain- 100.1 (shoulder injury)

      Age 23
      Felix Hernandez-185.1 so far
      Joba Chamberlain- 133 so far
      —————————————-

      Do you now understand what we are saying. While Joba was in college and having various injury problems, Kershaw and Felix were both professional pitchers logging major innings. They both have been much healthier than Joba and have the benefit of being professional ball players much earlier in their career than Joba.

      And please don’t compare present day Lincecum with Present day Joba. Lincecum is in a much worse division and Lincecum is 2 years older.

  • mryankee

    Tim Lincecum has pitched at least eight shutout innings on six occasions this season-thats an ace that is what Joba should be

    • http://www.teamnerdrage.com leokitty

      That’s not an ace that’s a phenom and they’re even harder to find than an ace. Let’s be reasonable.

  • misterd

    WOULD YOU PLEASE LET GO OF THE BUNTING THING! It was Swisher who failed to execute a play he’d pulled off 4 times this season. Girardi’s call was perfectly defensible, and we have no reason to think the results of that game would have been any better were Swish swinging away. Man I hope one of the circles of hell is reserved for second guessers.

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