Fan Confidence Poll: November 4th, 2013

Former Yankee Johnny Kucks passes away at 80
NYP: Yankees have already contacted Omar Infante

2013 Season: 85-77 (637 RS, 671 RA, 77-85 pythag. record), didn’t qualify for playoffs

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Former Yankee Johnny Kucks passes away at 80
NYP: Yankees have already contacted Omar Infante
  • MannyGeee

    Another week, another baseline 7.

  • I’m a looser baby so why don’t you kill me?

    Poll not taking my vote (voter suppression!!) but I’m still a 4.

    Was tempted to go to a 3 based on the possibility that Jeter’s deal hurts rather than helps the $189mm plan. But until we get definitive word I can’t penalize them for the move (and frankly I still believe it has to help them otherwise why bother? I don’t buy the “they just wanted to take care of business and not worry about another negotiation with him” stuff).

    Beyond that, until I see signs of encouragement on any number of different fronts I remain a 4.

    • Mandy Stankiewicz

      Didn’t this deal save 5 million off the tax, and split the difference raising Jeter approx 2.5 and saving the team 2.5? Let me know if I am mistaken.
      Middle of the pack farm, lots of holes and FAs, I’m steady 5.

      • I’m a looser baby so why don’t you kill me?

        You’re mistaken if you are certain :)

        Also your calculation on the savings is not the one “going around” if you get me.

        There are conflicting reports all over the media. And the ones who say it hurts seem more certain than those who believe it helps. Check the posts at about it…they link to the major outlets covering it. Or even the thread here a few days back.

        • Mandy Stankiewicz

          “The long-time Yankee Captain will turn 40 next June and appeared in just 17 games this season, making the decision to give him a $2.5MM raise on his option a curious one. However, by agreeing to a new deal, Jeter is no longer on his old contract, the average annual value (AAV) of which counted against the luxury tax. Had he exercised his player option, Jeter would’ve added $6.5MM to the AAV of his three-year, $51MM contract ($3MM of the option was guaranteed in the form of a buyout). Doing so would have raised his AAV to $14.375MM. Instead, his $12MM contract will be the number that counts against the luxury tax, thereby actually saving the Yankees $2.375MM relative to the luxury tax.”

          • Mandy Stankiewicz

            this was the one I saw on MLB trade. Again, not totally sure as the tax calculations are pretty confusing.

          • Hardy

            That was the old take of MLBTR, the newest updates are at the top of the post.
            Unfortunately, the quoted part contains several basic mistakes about the calculation for luxury tax purposes. It did not even make sense before Sherman offered new information about the contract.

  • Frank

    Overpaying for Jeter not a good a start for the off season. The fact the deal was made by Hal and Jeter’s agent, and supposedly without Cashman input, says to me dysfunction is still the norm in this organization.

  • Farewell Mo

    Speaking about next season only, I voted a 3.

    There’s gonna be tons of competition for Tanaka so you’d have to think they have less than a 50% chance of landing him. The only good FA starter is Garza and he has his warts too. Beyond that, you’re left to hoping CC bounces back, Pineda is healthy and effective and Nova has turned some kind of proverbial corner.
    With he lineup, pretty much the only sure thing above average position players are Gardner (barely) and Cano assuming he returns. Who knows how Teixiera wrist injury will affect him and what can be realistically expected from Soriano who carried them in the 2nd half at age 39.
    Too many things are gonna have to go just right for this team to contend IMO.

  • Darren


    The fact that Jeter pressed for a $12.5mm deal means that he’s feeling healthy and confident about next year. That’s literally the best news that could have happened right now.

    Try not to get too hung up on the extra $2mm. It’s really not much in the scheme of things. Try and focus on the fact that this means the team is planning on getting back a sure handed, starting SS who’s averaged 136 games a year, even taking into consideratiopn last season’s nightmare. A great hitter who led the league in hits and plate appearances just last year.

    And not to get too hung up on intangibles, but doesn’t the return of the Yankee Captain mean anything to you? Or does UZR trump everything? That’s kind of sad. If nothing else,after watching the drek of Nunez, Adams,Brignac, Gonzalez, Cruz and “Bobbly Brendan Ryan, aren’t you excited to see a major league SS everyday? Even Mike admitted the Yankees just didn’t feel like the Yankees without Jeter. Try and enjoy him, he probably won’t be playing for more than another 5 or 6 years.

    • MannyGeee

      The fact that Jeter pressed on the extra 2.5 M means he realizes he’s dealing with people less intelligent than his agent. And that they didn’t want to go through another ugly contract negotiation with a Yankee icon. Nothing to do with his health or possible production.

  • Hardy

    Here is my short overview regarding the $189(million) plan:

    25 man roster budget
    The luxury tax cap is $189. Apart from the 25 man roster, the Yankees

    have to budget for:
    – Player benefits, around $11-12
    – Salaries for the rest of the 40 man roster
    – Salaries for players acquired/promoted during the season
    – Bonuses for Derek Jeter(?) (only one report has mentioned bonuses in Jeter’s new contract – Cot’s lists none)
    I calculate with a a 25 man roster budget of $170, because I think it is the best nice round number.

    Contractual obligations
    The Yankees have the following obligations that they cannot shed unilaterally:
    – Alex Rodriguez $33.5 (includes $6 HR bonus)
    – C. C. Sabathia $24.4
    – Mark Teixeira $22.5
    – Derek Jeter $12.81
    – Ichiro Suzuki $6.5
    – Alfonso Soriano $4
    – Vernon Wells $0
    Total: $103.71

    Abitration eligible players
    The Yankees can offer arbitration to the following players (MLBTR salary projections):
    – David Robertson $5.5
    – Brett Gardner $4
    – Ivan Nova $2.8
    – Shawn Kelley $1.4
    – Jayson Nix $1.4
    – Chris Stewart $1
    – Frankie Cervelli $1
    Total: $17.1

    Minimum salary players
    The Yankees have following (close to) minimum salary players:
    – Eduardo Nunez $0.5
    – David Phelps $0.5
    Total: $1

    Available money for free agents
    The total cap space for the players mentioned is $121.81. Therefore the Yankees have about $48.19 for a 2B, an OF/DH, three starters and four relievers.
    This cap number can go up if
    – Alex Rodriguez is suspended (probably $7.7 for 50 games, $15.4 for 100 games, $23.1 for 150 games, $31 for 162+ games),
    – players are traded, or
    – arbitration is not offered to eligible players.

  • King of Fruitless Hypotheticals

    Youk is going to sign somewhere else, play 150 games, win a Gold Glove and hit .302.

    i hate baseball…

  • qwerty

    No Jeter on the field means less female fans buying tickets. The yankees know what they are doing.

  • MannyGeee

    And with A-Rod potentially not out there creeping them out by sending his number to them via the bat-boy, its a win-win!

    There will be many gift baskets…

  • The Other Sam

    3. Tanaka is encouraging, but what if he doesn’t pan out or Nova has an implosion like the end of 2012? And talk of 36 yr old Beltran and no moves in the development dept tells me they have changed nothing.

    • Kenny

      Well, then, they’ll probably finish last and we’ll have to learn humility.

      • Betty Lizard

        Hah! I’ve had my fill of humility. Also have mastered poverty and obscurity, a/k/a art school.

        So, I’m hoping for a season of vicarious and grandiose dominance. I’m hoping for a season of heartless and greedy and crushing wins by a team which has an gluttonous excess of talent.

        • The Other Sam

          Wow, that was on my Christmas list.

  • Betty Lizard

    Nothing bad has happened yet.
    (Well, something bad did happen: signing Jeter for 12.5. But something good also happened: signing Jeter, so, certainty about him. I have little faith at the moment in good outcomes after protracted “negotiations” by the Yankees.)

  • Robinson Tilapia

    7. Pretty much what Betty said.