Fan Confidence Poll: October 25th, 2010

A requiem for the 2010 season
Rangers reworked roster key in ALCS victory

Record Last Week: 1-3 (11 RS, 26 RA) lost best-of-seven ALCS four games to two
Season Record: 95-67 (859 RS, 693 RA, 98-64 Pythag. record), finished one game back in AL East, won Wild Card

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Given the team's current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees' overall future?
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A requiem for the 2010 season
Rangers reworked roster key in ALCS victory
  • RL

    Until Lee is signed, I’ve got some concerns, so I voted a 7. Worst case is Lee signs elsewhere and Pettitte retires. We’ll need a front line pticher (a “2” type) and then we’ll need to hope ARod & Jeter return to expected form. I’m hopefull this season was just the left over effects of surgery for ARod and that Jeter just had an off year and is able to post around a .285 – .290 (or higher) BA with close to career average OBP and peripherals along with decent defense (a lot of off season work for him!). I expect Mo to be Mo and Posada to have a similar season to this one.

    Should the Yankees need to trade for a solid #2 pitcher, it will certainly hurt the farm system. While it is deep now, it wouldn’t take too many trades to deplete it to league average or slightly worse.

  • pat

    This team did nothing all year. They were lucky to even finish above .500. Cash needs to blow the team up, cut salary, trade for clutch leaders, have a bridge year or two, then we can talk about going to teh playoffs again.

    • AndrewYF

      Let’s follow teh SAUX model! They’re da best and smahtest front office evah!

    • Matt Warden

      Really Pat?? This team did nothing.

      The ALCS is pretty solid man. It takes a lot more than luck to get there.

      As for blowing the team up, stop. Just stop. Contracts aside, most of this team is here to stay because they are good choices.

      The Yankees will make a solid pitching acquisition and this time next year hopefully the Yankees will be contending in the WS.

      I voted 7 as well because of Andy’s uncertainty. The second he commits back to the team, I’m back to 8.

      •!/iiKeane JobaWockeeZ

        It was all sarcasm.

        • Matt Warden

          Ahh duly noted.

          /slow witted

          • Total Dominication

            It’s ok. I haven’t seen you around here that much, so you wouldn’t know that Pat is a regular here.

          • Betty Lizard

            And Pat forgot about “bring back Damon and Matsui” . . .

            I often wish we had a “snark” tab at RAB.

    • Thomas

      Agreed. I didn’t bother voting, because I felt giving the team a one was giving it too much credit.

    • JerseyDutch

      You’re apparently a Mets fan who’s wandered onto the wrong forum. No problem. We get that a lot around here.

  • CBean

    Things didn’t go our way but still, even with how badly everything went, and how terribly we played (which a friend’s boyfriend was quick to point out that most teams couldn’t play as awfully as we did and still drag it out to six games– it shows how much talent we have even when we’re not firing on all cylinders) we were six wins away from another championship. I’m pretty confident in our team.

  • AndrewYF

    Still a 9. A few games late in the year should really not affect the outlook of the organization for anyone (The only reason I would vote a 10 if they win the World Series is because of emotional response. Plus, hard to do better than winning it all). They were one of, if not the best team in baseball this year, again, and that’s with significant decline from their all-star shortstop and third baseman, and significant under-performance from their first baseman. Clearly the core of the team is shifting to guys like Cano, Sabathia, Swisher, etc. and there’s no reason to think that these players in their prime will have significant dropoff for the next couple of years.

    The team is looking pretty darn good. Especially if Andy comes back (no real reason to think he won’t, he actually sounds like he wants to come back more than he did 2 years ago), it will be hard not to find an upgrade over what Vazquez did for the team this year, even if they don’t sign Lee. But they probably will, so all the better.

    There’s also lot of talent in AA and AAA. A lot a lot. Most of them won’t reach their potential, many of them will be trade bait, but it’s never a bad thing to have stockpiled talent at the top of your farm system.

  • Mike HC

    I was a 10 all year, but had to move it down to a nine. Still extremely confident, but that ALCS definitely made it pretty clear to me that this team is not a perfect 10.

  • Yankeescribe

    6 because next year’s team could potentially look worse on paper than this year’s team.

    • Colombo

      How so?

    • Mike HC

      But it is more likely that it will look better.

    • Yankeescribe

      – Jeter, Posada, and A-Rod showing their age
      – Pettite may retire, and Lee might not sign with us
      – Crawford might not sign with us
      – In 09′ we got mostly Good AJ and in 10′ mostly Bad AJ. In 11′ AJ might repeat his performance from this season

      In other words, a lot of things ‘could’ go wrong this offseason. That doesn’t mean that they wont get better during the offseason and it doesn’t mean that they won’t perform better next season than they look on paper.

      • Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

        I’ll be the first of many people here to tell you the Yankees aren’t going after Crawford. They want Lee, and that’s it.

        • Yankeescribe

          I think you’re right. I’d like to see an upgrade from Gardy in LF but I don’t know if one is available besides Crawford. Maybe Jason Werth?

          • Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

            Why would you like to see an upgrade? Gardner has one of the highest OBPs in the league, he makes contact with pitches in the strike zone better than anyone in the league (97%) and he is good for about 50 stolen bases.

            • Klemy

              Well, to be fair, since Gardner has significant value, he could be in a trade for pitching, requiring us to sign an OF. That prob wasn’t his actual point, but it is possible he doesn’t return.

              • Sam

                Gardner is great. One of the few examples of Cashman actually giving our farm a chance to contribute. We need more of him and less fa shopping.

    • Xstar7

      Some people thought the 2009 Mets looked better on paper than the Yankees that year before the season started. Look how that turned out.

  • Johnny O

    I’m at an 8. I was at a 9 while they were still in it and would’ve been a 10 with a world series. They still got to the ALCS, farm system had almost a best case scenario year. I’m assuming Pettitte, Jeter and Mo come back, HOPING for a Cliff Lee signing, and looking forward to a Jesus sighting around June 1. All reasons for optimism.

  • CP

    I was a 9 last season, but now that we’ve moved on to 2011, I moved up to a 10. The only thing that would knock me off of a 10 is if the Yankees somehow fail to sign Cliff Lee. They’ll probably also pick up a bullpen arm and some bench help over the winter, but it doesn’t really matter who they are.

  • Brien Jackson

    Slightly O/T, does anyone know where/if the press conference will be televised today? I assume YES will have it, right?

  • Jorge

    Well, this poll’s a bit easier. :)

    I went with a 9. I feel confident the team will commit to shoring up the pitching staff without weakening the team in other areas, including those young players ready to contribute next year. Where I don’t go to a 10 is that, no matter which way you put it, the team will be working harder to overcome the decline of Yankee mainstays who, no doubt about it, SHOULD remain Yankees, but who we all fear won’t accept a diminished role when the time comes.

    #28 will come home soon.

  • Pak

    I’m very upset right now, I’m just looking for this offseason, and i expect Cashman to perform his magic.
    Cliff Lee and trades PLEASE.

    • Pak

      Off topic, but go to the off topic section and answer my question please

  • Esteban

    Only a 8, because I have some worries about Jeter (and in the long term, a replacement SS) and possible challenges about mixing Montero into the catchup rotation (and concerns about Montero being able to catch at all). Another season going by means one more closer to Mo retiring, and I don’t think I’m gonna handle that well.

  • Hughesus Christo



    • CP

      You’re right. If it weren’t for Girardi, this team would be even worse.

      • Hughesus Christo

        Yeah, because he didn’t make David Robertson throw 120 innings this year. That’s the extent of the defense for Girardi.

        • CP

          There are a ton of reasons to defend Girardi. He’s generally been able to get the best players into the highest leverage situations. It didn’t always work out, but that doesn’t mean he made the wrong decision.

          In the playoffs, the only move that he made that I thought was stupid was not pinch hitting Jorge for Cervelli with runners on in the 4th inning of Game 4.

          • Matt DiBari

            I thought game four from start to finish was one long Girardi bungle.

            • CP

              In what other ways? The only other questionable move was leaving in AJ to face Molina, and I think that’s a reasonable decision based on 1) how bad Molina is and 2) how well AJ had been pitching.

              My biggest issue is that people spew out ridiculous suggestions for alternatives. For example, when someone claims Girardi should have brought in Moseley instead of Robertson in Game 6, then you lose all credibility (Wood or Chamberlain are really the only other alternatives in that situation).

              • Matt DiBari

                I thought using Cervelli at all was a mistake. I thought having Burnett start the sixth was a mistake. I really don’t think he was pitching particularly well. I think he survived five innings, you thank your lucky stars and move on. I thought walking Murphy was silly.

                I really, really don’t like playing bullpen roulette, so I was really annoyed when he yanked Robertson in the seventh and the chamber wound up being loaded with Logan. Also, I don’t think you can just give away a playoff game because of what *might be* tomorrow, so sending in the white flag in the ninth annoyed me. Its not unpardonable because of the score, but it also was certainly not unheard of for this team to score four runs in an inning, and there were reasons to think Feliz may have been spooked in the post season.

                • CP

                  I think there it’s reasonable to believe that the working relationship between a catcher and pitcher can have an impact on the pitcher’s performance. Combine that with a pitcher that has struggled significantly and potentially has significant confidence issues, and I don’t really have a problem starting Cervelli. His first at bat with no one on, so the difference between him and Posada there are relatively small. It’s just the second time he came up where it’s a much higher leverage situation that Posada should have hit.

                  Walking Murphy was absolutely the right move. Bengie Molina sucks. He’s worse than Cervelli (at this point in their careers). The only other move that would have been reasonable in that situation would have been bringing in Logan to face Murphy in that siutation, and I don’t like that because then you don’t have him to match up with Hamilton later in the game.

              • Hughesus Christo

                The Hamiilton walk party was idiotic.

                • CP

                  Did you see what he did when they didn’t walk him? How can you argue that walking him was bad after the way he hit in the series?

                  • Hughesus Christo

                    You mean vs Boone Logan and Sergio Mitre? Yeah, I saw that. Did you see what happened when they kept putting men on base for Guerrero and Cruz?

                    • CP

                      Hamilton hit 4 HR in the series. One each off of Sabathia, Pettitte, Logan and Mitre. So, that’s all of the lefites on the roster and a mop up guy. Who would you prefer to have pitch to him since those 4 weren’t very effective, and what makes you think that pitcher would do any better?

                    • Hughesus Christo

                      I would prefer you act like your pitchers are somewhat competent and Josh Hamilton isn’t Superman. How many home runs did he hit versus Tampa? You CANNOT put baserunner after baserunner on with very good 4-5 hitters on deck.

                    • CP

                      Hamilton isn’t superman, but he’s significantly better than anyone else in the lineup. You play the percentages in baseball, and the percentages say you’d rather face the hitter behind Hamilton than Hamilton.

                    • Hughesus Christo

                      This is an excellent example of why captain binder is an issue. The percentages also say there’s a significantly higher chance of a run/runs being scored after you put guys on base, but he didn’t get to that page in time.

  • Anthony Murillo

    It’s about an 8 at the moment.

    I think Cliff Lee is a must this offseason and I think the front office knows that. There has been so much hype with Cliff Lee since last October that it would be a giant disappointment if he didn’t come to New York. It would also leave a giant whole in our starting rotation – we only have Sabathia, Hughes and Burnett as locks for the starting rotation. Who fills out the last two spots? Ivan Nova and Joba Chamberlain? That doesn’t really sit well with me…

    Which leads me to my next “must” of the offseason and that’s re-signing Andy Pettitte for one more season. Andy looked great before his injury and showed he clearly has something left in the tank. He is an anchor to our pitching staff. With him, Sabathia and Lee possibly in the starting rotation for 2011, the Yankees easily have the best pitching staff in baseball.

    What worries me the most about 2011 is how many guys we’re counting on to have rebound seasons. You’re asking Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, Jorge Posada and AJ Burnett to have much better seasons than they did in 2010.

    In regards to the free agency of Jeter and Rivera…they aren’t going anywhere. But I really, really hope the Yankees don’t over pay SO much for Jeter…nor give him too many years. It’s hard to see a legendary, homegrown Yankee decline but it’s happening with the Captain of the New York Yankees. With Rivera, I don’t really worry about him.

    Cashman should shop around Gardner…see if he can get a slightly stronger LF. Gardner just doesn’t swing the bat enough for me. I’m not advocating signing Carl Crawford by any means…but see if you can shop Gardner around for a corner OF with more power.

    I’m also looking forward to the debut of Jesus Montero. I think we all are here on RAB.

    • Total Dominication

      I agree on Lee being a must. If Lee does sign, I wouldn’t call Pettite a “must”, but certaintly I would prefer it over Kuroda or having to trade. I think counting on AJ to rebound is pretty easy, can’t do much worse. Teix also had a career low, but is 30. It is inconceivable that he wouldn’t rebound. A-rod was a lot better after the surgery, and if he keeps healthy, he should improve in total production. I don’t really need Posada to rebound, it’s mroe about staying constant. What we need is an improvement in our 2nd catcher position (here’s looking at you Jesus, or Buck). Jeter….yeah, but we don’t neeeed all of these guys to rebound. We won 95 games in a year they all had bad years. On shopping Garder, sure, but not because we need an improvement in LF. Shop Gardner if a GM is willing to overpay for him in the return. I think he’s a very good lf, and certaintly doesn;t need to go in favor of more power, he had a 5 WAR this year. That being said, if, in a completely hypothetical situation, some cheapass GM offers the Cashman Josh Johnson for Gardner plus a top prospect, you by all means make the trade. But there is no reason to trade Gardner for another LF, there is no one (contract included) who I want in LF more than him.

  • larryf

    I will go with an 8. I would like Montero to catch at the start of the season. We have a veteran team and 2 retired catchers in the dugout and one soon to be. I have seen Montero catch and he is better than you think. I also am not on board with the Gardy-bashers. He is dirt cheap. This was his first full season and he had a thumb injury for who knows how much of it. I’m not sure what is more frustrating: Jeter making an out on the first pitch or Gardy taking too many. I prefer Brett leading off-more upside and more ways to get on base than our next year, 37 year old SS.

  • Anthony Murillo

    Side note:

    I find it extremely comical that some people here act like Joe Girardi cost the Yankees 10 games in the regular season because of his managing.

    • Jake LaMotta’s Left Hook

      Girardi cost the Yankees 67 games.


    • Hughesus Christo

      RAB should look into getting some strawmen advertising. This place is a goldmine!

      • bexarama

        Funnily enough, you personally do act like every loss is Girardi’s fault, so…

        • Hughesus Christo

          Another one.

          What I do is present a false cause, which, while also logically unsound, is not as annoying as use of the strawman.

          • bexarama

            Bragging about using one logical inconsistency over another. Right.

  • Matt DiBari

    I assume we’re all operating under the idea that Rivera and Jeter are all but done deals.

    Next year hinges on Pettitte and Lee. If Pettitte retires (which, unfortunately, I think he does) and they miss out on Lee, the starting rotation is a mess. I think they then compound that problem by signing two or more of the awful non Lee free agent starters. Jon Garland and Jake Westbrook (for argument’s sake) would get absolutely lit up in this division.

    • CP

      If they don’t get Lee, then I think the chances of Pettitte retiring drop significantly. As much as his family plays into the decision, it seems like he also feels an obligation to the Yankees. Back in 2007, when the Yankees were considering trading for Santana, Pettitte made his decision to return in part to remove some of the uncertainty from the teams offseason moves.

      • Ed

        I think back in ’07 that Pettitte made his decision when he did because he didn’t think the team could afford both him and Santana.

  • Ross in Jersey

    As the Yankees transition into another long winter, the inevitable calls for singing Free Agent-to-be Cliff Lee have already started. Sources around the league have already confirmed that the Yankees are likely to offer Lee what they feel is a maximum contract.

    Internally, though, you have to feel that it gets to a point where signing the best players every year will backfire. Brian Cashman tried to walk in the path of the Red Sox by developing a strong system, but he has failed miserably as Theo Epstein has groomed high-caliber talent like Casey Kelly, Michael Bowden, Daniel Nava, and Daniel Bard.

    And, of course, we all remember the great 2004 Red Sox team that won with home-grown talent like Johnny Damon, Curt Schilling, Josh Beckett, David Ortiz, and Manny Ramirez. If the Yankees want to win more championships in 2011 and beyond, they need to go back to the drawing board to try to emulate Red Sox success.

    For Diamond Cutters, this is Peter Gammons.

    • Matt DiBari

      You needed “defective baseball” somewhere in there.

    • CP


      Josh Beckett wasn’t on the 2004 team.

      • Ross in Jersey


      • AndrewYF

        Carl Pavano, Josh Beckett, WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE?

    • Mike

      I wish we had a farm that could develop and produce like the Red Sox. Then we wouldn’t have to rely on Cashman to buy us our top end starters.

  • Frank

    7. There has to be concern moving forward about SS and catcher. I love Jeter and he’s a Yankees icon, but at this point in his career, he’s not an everyday SS. He’s just not. So while he may bounce back next season offensively, his defensive range will not improve. The same goes for Posada at catcher; he just needs to checjk his ego and move to FT DH. A FT catcher who can hit decently is needed (via trade or free agency) until Montero or Romine is ready to take over.

    As for starting pitching, they have CC, who is steady; AJ, a major ? in terms of reliability/consistantcy with an untradeable contract; and Hughes, who despite 18 wins, is still a work in progress. After that, what do you have if Lee isn’t signed? There is a 50/50 chance Pettitte returns, but even if he does, can you honestly count on him to hold up for an entire season? My guess is they will need at least 1 other proven starter besides auditioning the likes of Nova, Brackman, Phelps and others, even if Pettitte returns and they sign Lee.

    There’s also the BP where you have a 41 year old closer(assuming he resigns); a good, but inconsistant, reliever in D-Rob; one lefty (Logan)who is also shaky; and of course low man on the totem poll, Joba, who seems to have essentially vanished off the Yankees radar. Wood would be a nice resign, but will he be willing to come back for less $$. I can’t see the Yanks picking up his $11 million option.

    I actually believe this could be one of the most intriguing off seasons in recent memory.

    • CP

      Jeter was 9th among MLB SS with a 2.5 fWAR. I think you’re making the mistake of judging him against his HOF career instead of against what other SS are doing. I doubt that he will match his typical career numbers, but he should be able to remain a top 10 SS in MLB. From a purely baseball standpoint, that’s probably not worth what his next contract will be but it’s still valuable.

      As for catcher, I would expect (hope) for a C/DH rotation of Jorge and Montero. That will help Jorge move out gracefully and allow Montero to transition to the majors.

      The pitching situation is pretty well set if Lee signs and Pettitte returns. The rotation would be CC, Lee, Pettitte, Hughes and AJ. They’re not likely to make another acquisition and bump any of those guys out of the rotation.

      The pen is likewise pretty well set. You have Mo, Robertson, Joba, Logan, and Albaldejo (out of options) as basically locks. Then you have Aceves, Mitre (I think he has one year of arb left), Nova, and Sanchez.

      I would expect them to sign or trade for a bullpen arm and some bench help, but those are most likely very minor pickups.

    • Dax J. aka The Bull in the China Shop Effect

      Did you just say that Mo was inconsistent? Oh boy.. this will REALLY end badly.

      • Total Dominication

        reading fail

      • bexarama

        He actually didn’t.

  • Klemy

    At an 8 to end the season.

    I really have questions about the starting rotation going forward. If we don’t sign Lee and Pettitte retires, we’re going to be in a lot of pain. You have the prospect of CC’s opt out coming up too, which while unlikely, is possible. So, a year from now, the rotation could look even worse. I assume things will be handled by Cash, but you never know how things could play out. I’m just fearing our worst case scenario.

  • Bob Stone

    I voted 8 after being at 9+ all season.

    My concern is that the Rangers have made major improvements in their ability to sign Lee. First they got the big money TV contract. Second, they beat the Yankees showing Lee that he can win in Texas. They also got some luck in facing San Francisco – chances are better to beat them than the Phillies in the World Series.

    Add to that the uncertainty of the Pettitte signing and all the rebound years we are expecting from key players.

    Cashman needs to have a good off-season in a big way.

  • Mike

    We can’t keep relying on free agents coming to us at the end of the season. I have a feeling the Rangers will resign Lee. We may actually have to develop our farm and be willing to trade our good prospects to get the talent we want. Texas had 1/4th our payroll and were able to dominate us. Lee wasn’t the only reason we lost. This team is rotten to the core and it will take a lot more than opening the bank to fix it.

    • bexarama

      This team is rotten to the core

      Winning 95 games in the AL East, failures.

      • Mike

        Offense decided to fall asleep and pitching decided to take a dump against Texas. I don’t consider a regular season wild card a success for this team. Perhaps you do.

    • tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Ridiculous Upside the Elder

      We can’t keep relying on free agents coming to us at the end of the season.

      He’s absolutely right. We’ve only been using our large monetary advantage to sign the best freely available talent (both amateur and professional) for the past 90 years, and it’s brought us 40 pennants and 27 titles, but at some point, it’s not going to work.


      • Mike

        Dumb reasoning. Most of our success was due to developing and signing our own players. Our GM is horrible. He was living on past drafts and his massive FA acquisitions are to the detriment of our farm. Cliff Lee and CC Sabathia were Cleveland’s farm hands. Lester and Buccholz are Boston’s. Can you say Hughes and Joba are on the same league? Cashman should have focused as much on the farm as he does in free agency.

  • Xstar7

    Why don’t we all just vote 10 for the fun of it.