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Going long-term with Robinson Cano

February 11, 2013 by Mike 205 Comments

(AP Photo/Kathy Willens)
(AP Photo/Kathy Willens)

Robinson Cano’s impending free agency is going to be the rain cloud hovering over the Yankees’ heads this season. Sorta like CC Sabathia’s opt-out clause two seasons ago, how it was always looming in the back of everyone’s mind. The club’s situation is much less dire two years ago though. We all knew the Yankees were going to go all-out to re-sign their ace when he did use — or in reality, threatened to use — the opt-out. If Sabathia signed elsewhere, it would not have been due to a lack of effort on the team’s part.

The calculus has changed quite a bit in those two years. The Collective Bargaining Agreement put in place last winter offers (substantial) rewards for staying under the luxury tax and the Yankees are doing all they can to take advantage, even though it harms their ability to contend. Hal Steinbrenner has a knack for saying they will continue to field a championship-caliber team, but actions speak louder than words. The current catching situation is not championship-caliber. The bench is not championship-caliber. Wilfully slashing payroll for the sake of maximizing profit is not something someone committed to fielding a championship-caliber team does.

Anyway, that desire to spend less on the team will impact the Yankees’ ability to retain Cano next offseason. Robbie hired Scott Boras two years ago and players do not hire Boras that close to free agency unless they’re looking for a huge payday. Cano is a star and he will want to be paid like one. It’s only fair. With the free-spending Dodgers looming and other contenders like the Tigers and Cardinals potentially in need of second base help, Boras shouldn’t have much trouble finding suitors for his client.

The Yankees know as well as anyone that long-term contracts to players on the wrong side of 30 have a tendency to go sour in a hurry. All they have to do is look at Alex Rodriguez for the worst case scenario, but Jason Giambi — who was more productive in pinstripes than he gets credit for — is a cautionary tale as well. Just look around the league and you’ll see scary long-term commitments to 30-somethings either going wrong or on the verge of going wrong. Albert Pujols, Ryan Howard, Alfonso Soriano … those clubs would like a do-over on every one of those contracts.

(Al Bello/Getty)
(Al Bello/Getty)

Cano, who turned 30 in October, is theoretically at even greater risk of sharp decline because of his position. Second baseman take a pounding at the bag due to the blind double play pivot, something that “is even reflected in the number of uniforms their clubs have to buy for them” according to former Dodgers GM Dan Evans. To Cano’s credit, he has been extremely durable, playing in no fewer than 159 games in each of the last six seasons. We have to remember that A-Rod was once just as durable, playing in 154+ games in seven straight years before starting to break down in 2008.

According to bWAR, Robbie has been not only the most valuable position player in baseball over the last three years, but also the most valuable player period, including pitchers. His career 34.8 bWAR is the tenth highest in history among second basemen through their age 29 season. He’s been brilliant these last few years, no doubt about it, but his next contract won’t be paying him for past performance. It’ll be paying him for expected future performance, and that’s where it gets tricky.

There have been a total of 20 non-first base infielders to post between 30-40 bWAR through their age 29 season. There are 13 40+ bWAR guys and they’re all all-time greats (A-Rod, Cal Ripken Jr., Joe Morgan, Mike Schmidt, etc.), but I want to look at players similar to Cano. Two of those 30-40 bWAR guys (Dustin Pedroia and David Wright) are too young to tell us anything, but here are how the others performed before their age 30 season, during their age 30 season, and then after their age 30s season.

<30 WAR Age 30 WAR 31+ WAR
Rod Carew 39.8 6.5 30.3
Nomar Garciaparra 39.7 1.1 1.2
Chuck Knoblauch 38.9 3.3 -0.2
Bobby Grich 38.8 5.7 22.8
Derek Jeter 38.7 4.1 26.5
Adrian Beltre 38.4 3.0 19.7
Lou Whitaker 37.3 3.5 30.6
Willie Randolph 37.2 3.8 22.0
Chipper Jones 36.9 5.5 39.1
Ryne Sandberg 36.0 6.9 22.0
Sal Brado 35.6 4.5 17.0
Barry Larkin 33.5 3.8 29.8
Chase Utley 33.0 8.0 12.3
Eric Chavez 32.9 0.1 1.0
Rico Petrocelli 32.6 2.3 0.8
Jimmy Rollins 32.0 1.6 6.7
Robin Ventura 31.4 5.5 15.4

The majority of those guys actually held their value well beyond their age 30 season. There will always been some decline, that’s inevitable, but for the most part they’ve been solid. There are some complete collapses — Nomar, Knoblauch, Chavez, and Petrocelli — in there to serve as the harsh reminder of what could happen as well.

Looking specifically at the second baseman, Carew had begun the transition to first base during his age 29 season and was playing there full-time by 30. Knoblauch was done as a second baseman at 31. Grich, Whitaker, Randolph, and Sandberg all stayed at the position full-time until the end of their careers. Utley, 33, is breaking down but still a full-time second baseman. Roberto Alomar, who was slightly above my arbitrary 40 bWAR cutoff point, was a star up until age 33 before completely cratering. He was a full-time second baseman the entire time.

There is nothing we can to do to predict how Cano will age. We can look at aging curves and compare him to similar players and all sorts of stuff, but there’s just no way to know. He could prosper (Whitaker), he could turn into a pumpkin (Knoblauch), he could do something in the middle (Randolph), or he could do something else entirely. Cano’s durability is reassuring … until you consider all the wear-and-tear could manifest itself in an instant. The uncertainty is what makes a potential long-term deal so scary.

Back in August 2011, I spit-balled the idea of a six-year, $120M-ish contract extension that covered the 2012-2017 seasons, or Robbie’s age 29-34 seasons. I have a hard time seeing Cano and Boras accepting those terms right now. The new CBA changed the marketplace, specifically by limiting spending on amateur players and therefore pumping more money in the big league marketplace. Add in the Dodgers factor and Robbie could be looking at Prince Fielder money (nine years, $214M) with a 2013 season that resembles his 2010-2012 efforts. That is a scary thought.

Cano is an elite player and he will be paid accordingly next winter. That’s not much of a question. The real question is how long will he remain an elite player? How long will he stay at second? One more season? Two? Four? No one knows. The Yankees already have two big albatross contracts on their hands in A-Rod and Mark Teixeira, and it’s likely only a matter of time before Sabathia joins them. Adding a fourth albatross could be crippling, especially if ownership won’t budge from their plan to stay under the luxury tax threshold. I have no reason to believe they will.

As great as Cano is right now, the Yankees need to avoid repeating history and shooting themselves in the foot with another big contract for a declining player on the wrong side of 30. The Cardinals are doing just fine without Pujols, just like the Rays are doing just fine without Carl Crawford. Texas doesn’t miss Teixeira at all. There is a price at which the Yankees should be willing to keep Cano — four years, $100M? five years, $130M? — but in this new age of “fiscal responsibility,” the Yankees can’t act like they used too. Hard and potentially unpopular decisions will have to be made.

Filed Under: Analysis Tagged With: Robinson Cano

Jeter begins running, given the “green light” to ramp up rehab

February 11, 2013 by Mike 16 Comments

Via Jon Morosi & Erik Boland: Derek Jeter ran today for the first time since having left ankle surgery in October. It wasn’t much — five minutes on a treadmill — but it’s progress. The Cap’n also said he’s been given the “green light” to ramp up his rehab and basically do everything a baseball player needs to do to prepare for the season. That doesn’t mean he’ll be ready to go on Opening Day, just that his ankle is healing well and he can begin to pick up the pace a bit. Good news, obviously.

Filed Under: Asides, Injuries Tagged With: Derek Jeter

Fan Confidence Poll: February 11th, 2013

February 11, 2013 by Mike 41 Comments

2012 Record: 95-67 (804 RS, 668 RA, 96-66 pythag. record), won AL East, swept in ALCS

Top stories from last week:

  • The Yankees signed Juan Rivera to a minor league contract, adding another body to the right-handed outfield bat Spring Training competition. Russ Canzler was claimed off waivers by the Orioles.
  • Hal Steinbrenner confirmed there has been a “a conversation or two” about an extension for Robinson Cano. Felix Hernandez agreed to a monster extension with the Mariners, so he won’t be wearing pinstripes anytime soon.
  • Injury News: CC Sabathia (elbow) doesn’t expect to be far behind in Spring Training. Derek Jeter (ankle) expects to resume running in a few weeks. Michael Pineda (shoulder) continues to throw from a half-mound and could get up on a full mound by next week. Manny Banuelos (elbow) has started throwing as part of his rehab from Tommy John surgery. Jose Campos (elbow) has completed his rehab and will be ready for Opening Day. Mason Williams (shoulder) is close to 100%.
  • Brian Cashman confirmed that catcher candidate Frankie Cervelli can be sent to the minors without having to clear waivers this year. Cervelli was connected to the South Florida clinic that alleged distributed performance-enhancing drugs.
  • Gary Sanchez, Williams, Tyler Austin, Slade Heathcott, and Jose Ramirez all cracked Keith Law’s top 110 prospects list. Sanchez topped my annual Preseason Top 30 Prospects List. Law ranked New York’s farm system the tenth best in baseball.
  • The Yankees are still considering moving Brett Gardner to center field this year.

Please take a second to answer the poll below and give us an idea of how confident you are in the team. You can view the interactive Fan Confidence Graph anytime via the nav bar above, or by clicking here. Thanks in advance for voting.

Given the team's current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees' overall future?
  • 10 (very confident)
    292% of all votes
  • 9
    151% of all votes
  • 8
    716% of all votes
  • 7
    24421% of all votes
  • 6
    35530% of all votes
  • 5
    21919% of all votes
  • 4
    978% of all votes
  • 3
    615% of all votes
  • 2
    292% of all votes
  • 1 (no confidence)
    494% of all votes
Total Votes: 1169 Started: February 10, 2013 Back to Vote Screen

Filed Under: Polls Tagged With: Fan Confidence

Snowmageddon Open Thread Part III

February 10, 2013 by Mike 162 Comments

Yesterday we went with the Giancarlo Stanton highlights, so today we’ll go with Craig Kimbrel. That’s video game stuff right there. You’re not going to find a better fastball-breaking ball combination on the planet. Just filthy.

Anyway, here is your open thread for the night. Hopefully you’re all shoveled out and able to access the rest of civilization. The Rangers, Devils, and Nets are all playing, plus The Walking Dead is back. That’s should be fun. Talk about any of that stuff plus more here. Go nuts.

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Filed Under: Open Thread

Must-Click Link: Mark Prior’s quest to get back to MLB

February 10, 2013 by Mike 9 Comments

Mark Prior wasn’t a Yankee very long. More than a decade after drafting him with the 43rd pick in 1998 and failing to sign him, the Yankees inked the right-hander to a minor league contract prior to 2011. He pitched well in Spring Training and was sent to Triple-A for more work, but oblique and groin strains limited him to just eleven appearances. New York let him go after the season.

In a feature for MLB.com, Doug Miller profiled Prior and his quest to get back to the big leagues. Injuries continue to hamper his comeback attempts, but he keeps trying because his three young children all want to see him pitch. It’s a long read but a very good one, perfect for a lazy Sunday morning. Check it out.

Filed Under: Asides Tagged With: Mark Prior

Snowmageddon Open Thread Part II

February 9, 2013 by Mike 119 Comments

Yeah, that’s definitely my favorite open thread video of the year. Talk about Giancarlo Stanton’s awesomeness, the snow, the Islanders, or anything else you want here. Have at it.

Site Note: Our spam filter is acting a little wonky, so if your comment doesn’t show up right away, don’t keep resending it. It’ll only make it worse.

Filed Under: Open Thread

Manny Banuelos has started playing catch following elbow surgery

February 9, 2013 by Mike 14 Comments

Via Dan Barbarisi: Top pitching prospect Manny Banuelos has started playing catch as part of his rehab from Tommy John surgery. He had the procedure in early-October, so he’s roughly four months out and right on schedule according to Mike Dodd’s classic article. As I said in my Top 30 Prospects post yesterday, I don’t expect the Yankees to have Banuelos throw in winter ball after the season. They’ll probably bring him to camp next year fresh and ready to go.

Filed Under: Asides, Injuries Tagged With: Manny Banuelos

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