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Fan Confidence Poll: December 14th, 2009

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Please take a second to answer the poll below and give us an idea of how confident you are in the team. You can view the Fan Confidence Graph anytime via the nav bar above, or by clicking here. Thanks in advance for voting.

Given the team's current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees' overall future?
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  • Andy in Sunny Daytona

    Like Bo Derek with braids, I’m a 10.

  • PaaakmaaaN

    I’m a 9 ’till we sign a LF/DH

  • MattG

    The Granderson trade was perfect execution of Cashman’s vision. I haven’t gone to 10 yet, but I am starting to feel foolish when I click the radio button next to #9. Really, what more do I want?

    • Jersey

      +28

      The team’s in good hands, sure enough.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Don’t call me radio, unit 91.

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        Don’t call me “91,” radio.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Really, what more do I want?

      A night with Laura Posada?

      • Evil Empire

        Just make sure she takes a shower first. I wouldn’t want the taint of Jorge’s covetous pee-hands messing up a fantasy night.

  • Andy in Sunny Daytona

    If the current trend of polling continues, the confidence level should be right around a 7 when Spring Training starts. Tough crowd.

    • Mattingly’s Love Child

      The further removed from the WS, the less confident people are. Which is silly of course. But most people don’t really think about the Yankees this time of year as much as some of the regulars here.

      I was almost up to a 10 from a 9, but not yet. I wanna see how the DH and pitching markets shape up. I really like the Granderson trade, didn’t give up too much, got younger, and better. Worst case scenario they have Granderson replacing Damon (younger, better defense, offense not too different) and most of a solid core from last year.

    • YankFan

      Especially since the worst player may be only league avg. How could you not vote 10. Even if you were not a 10, please take a look at the competition in the AL.

  • CountryClub

    I had been a 9 for at least the last year, until a few weeks ago when I dropped to an 8. But signing Andy and trading for Granderson has me back up to a 9.

  • Rose

    Confidence Level: 8

    As of right now our team is much worse than last year…but the fact that they’re agressively making moves to get better keeps the confidence level up. Melky/Gardner in LF with no DH and Joba/Hughes as the #4 and 5 right now brings it down…but Granderson, Pettitte returning, as well as constant talks with free agents to fill holes makes me happy.

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      Their rotation in the second half last year was CC, AJ, Andy, Joba, Gaudin. Gaudin’s still around, it’s just that Hughes is competing with him for a spot now.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      and Joba/Hughes as the #4 and 5 right now brings it down…

      Joba and Hughes as our #4 and #5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everybody else’s #4 and #5

    • Rose

      I meant the Joba/Hughes as #4 and 5 being bad by taking away from the bullpen. I really don’t have a problem with them starting at #4 and 5. I’d rather them start than be in the bullpen but that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t still make the bullpen worse without either/or.

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        Fair enough.

      • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

        The holes they plugging in the rotation are bigger than the holes they’re leaving in the bullpen.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          Furthermore, we have solid internal candidates to replace/supplant them (D-Rob/Marte/Aceves for high leverage; Melancon/Nova/Dunn/WDLR/McAllister for the back of the bullpen), and there’s plenty of reasonably priced, non-Type A decent relievers on the market to add quality depth to fill the gap.

          Escobar, Igarashi, Capps, Carrasco, Gregg, Casilla, Dotel, Park, Beimel, Oliver, etc.

          • Evil Empire

            I’d like to get Beimel or Oliver, if either are still available, to replace Coke.

    • Mike HC

      I’m not sure how you can think the team is “much worse” than last year. We just traded for an all star centerfielder and only gave up Phil Coke from our ML roster last year. Joba and Phil should, most likely, both improve. ARod should be healthier. The Yanks are still not done with free agency.

  • V

    How confident am I that the Yankees will win ANOTHER World Series in 2009?

    ….

    10, bay-bee! Duffman! Oh, yeah!

    • Rose

      How confident am I that the Yankees will win ANOTHER World Series in 2009?

      Quick! To the Delorean! Somebody grab Einstein!

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        1.21 GIGAWATTS!!!!

        • Rose

          What the hell is a gigawatt!

          • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

            What’s a nubian?

        • AndrewYF

          Jigawatts

          • Rose
            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              Rose is correct.

              Spelled with a G, sometimes pronounced like a J, generally depending on the speaker’s mother tongue.

              • Andy in Sunny Daytona

                But how does Jay-Z spell it?

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  “Giggaman”

                • Andy in Sunny Daytona

                  I figured it was “Jiggawhat”

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  Linguistic fun fact:

                  In classical Latin, the letter C was always pronounced with a hard “K” sound, and never the soft “S” sound.

                  So, Cicero isn’t “siss-er-o”, as commonly pronounced today, it’s “kick-er-o”.

                  And Julius Caesar?

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser

                • Andy in Sunny Daytona

                  I’m order a Kaiser Salad for lunch today.

                • Andy in Sunny Daytona

                  going to

                • Rose

                  In classical Latin, the letter C was always pronounced with a hard “K” sound, and never the soft “S” sound.

                  So, Cicero isn’t “siss-er-o”, as commonly pronounced today, it’s “kick-er-o”.

                  Correct. Although the word “Celtic” is a bit more tricky. Both soundings of “K” and “S” have been proven correct in English prescriptive usage.

                • Scooter

                  And Caesar’s famous pronouncement would be pronounced:
                  “Way-nee, Wee-dee, Wee-kee”

                  (Veni, vidi, vici)

                  Fortunately the Jesuits taught us “Church Latin”, not what they called “schoolboy Latin”

                  Of course this led to all sorts of fun – for example, the verb “he knows” caused some chuckles in 9th grade.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  Celtic: Not classical latin

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  And Caesar’s famous pronouncement would be pronounced:
                  “Way-nee, Wee-dee, Wee-kee”

                  That guy is nuts.

                  N-V-T-S, nuts.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  Andy in Sunny Daytona says:
                  I’m going to order a Kaiser Salad for lunch today.

                  Instead of olive oil and parmesan cheese, it’s probably going to be filled with bratwurst and sauerkraut.

                • Andy in Sunny Daytona

                  Can’t wait. It should overpower the taste of the french bread.

                • Scooter

                  One of my fave quotes from that flick:
                  “Run with Mucus!”

                  As a Latin nerd, I enjoyed this bit:

                  “Romani eunt domus”? The people called ‘Romans’ they go the house?

              • AndrewYF

                I always thought that they just used a made-up unit of measurement, the Jigawatt.

                As a Physics major, one would hope I would know how to spell Gigawatt.

                • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

                  The power required is pronounced in the film as “one point twenty-one jiggawatts”. While the closed-captioning in home video versions spells the word as it appears in the script, jigowatt, the actual spelling matches the standard prefix and the term for power of “one billion watts”: gigawatt. Though obscure, the “j” sound at the beginning of the SI prefix giga- is in fact the original and still an acceptable pronunciation for “gigawatt”. In the DVD commentary for Back to the Future, Robert Zemeckis stated that he had thought it was pronounced this way because this was how the scientific adviser that he had for the film pronounced it.

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeLorean_time_machine

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada
  • Evil Empire

    I wish the fan confidence poll would allow me to either vote a level of 11 or 28. Either one would be acceptable, and more accurately depict my sentiments.

  • hakeem “single celled organism”

    I think I’m a seven, at most eight. Andy returning was great but I personally don’t think he will be as succesful during the regular season as last year. How clutch can granderson be? Johnny and hideki were clutch players. I still think we need a bat and for a 10 then a Halliday.

    • Mattingly’s Love Child

      Sarcasm? Joking?

  • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

    Positives:
    Granderson
    Pettitte
    Wang non-tender

    Negatives:
    LF situation
    DH situation
    SP depth beyond Gaudin

    Nine.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      SP depth beyond Gaudin

      All things considered, a #6-#11 of Gaudin/Mitre/Nova/McAllister/Hirsh/Romulo isn’t THAT bad, and if we add a piece or two in the bullpen capable of handling high-leverage innings (Escobar? Igarashi? Capps?) that may free Aceves from an irreplaceable bullpen role to bump right up in between Mitre and Nova.

      Sure, we’d all like to add another vet, but if it doesn’t happen, Nova and ZMac are super-raw but are probably decent bets, through their natural talent levels, to provide replacement level production on a short term basis, and that’s probably all those vets would give you (the ones who would come here, anyway.)

      • Rose

        Looks like we have the inevitable rumors on some of these other guys helping us too…(specifically Duchscherer and Sheets in this article)

        http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ru.....mlb,208474

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          From the bottom of your article:

          Source: New York Daily News

          Ah, that explains everything.

          prints out article, crumples it up, throws it in the trash

        • A.D.

          Hmmm maybe they can sign Ryan and Justin Duchscherer that would really provide some depth.

          Side note, Baseball Reference needs to put J-Duche in as a nickname.

          • Andy in Sunny Daytona

            It’s J-Douche. The “o” is for outstanding.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              The “o” is for the O-Face.

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            Speaking of Baseball Reference, check out the sponsor of Melky’s page.

            http://www.baseball-reference......me01.shtml

            I think “Rob” is really Drew. Or, thanks to the superfluous swipe at Cameron, possibly “Rob”ert Grant.

  • Reggie C.

    9.

    If Cashman’s interest in bringing Ben Sheets onboard is real, I guess we’ll start seeing more Sheets-Yanks rumors this week as the talks start leaking. I’d find that awesome and yet troubling. Aside from the what-of-Hughes talk, bringing Sheets onboard would create one heck of a rotation.

    Keep me entertained Cash!

  • JobaWockeeZ

    For the first time in ages I’m a 9 just because I have some concerns that a rotation DH might be used…

    If either one of Johnny or Matsui comes back then I have no doubt this team has the best chance of winning it all again.

  • Jake H

    9. A ninja move by Cash to get Granderson. Andy coming back to make the rotation solid. Lots of confidence.

    • Andy in Sunny Daytona

      Cash Money Trillionaire is indeed a Ninja Assassin, except he’s more bloodier.

      • Thomas

        more bloodier, when bloodier just isn’t enough.

        • Andy in Sunny Daytona

          I work for a livin, Bill Shakespeare.

          • http://Youcan'tincreaseyourrange TLVP

            actually William Shakespeare often used the double comparative, something that has sadly disappeared from the English language since… until now that is.

            However he would normally use it with most like:

            Cash is the most bloodiest GM in baseball

  • Bob Stone

    I am at a confidence level of 9 again this week. Good moves with Andy, Wang and Granderson. I still hope the Yanks sign Matsui and Damon with resonable deals (if not reasonable. let ‘em walk).

    It’s basically the same team that won it all this year, so what’s not to be confident about? The management and farm system is the same (less Coke, IPK and AJax plus a few pickups). Wang was a non-factor last year and now will be no factor.

    What’s not to like? I have a hard time understanding anyone voting less than an eight at this point.

    • Evil Empire

      Honestly, I think its hard to understand anyone voting less than a 10. We’re the world series champs and we’ve made more off-season moves and improvements than anybody else has so far. Plus we *know* we’ll get at least one other impact piece like Damon/Cameron/Matsui.

      • Bob Stone

        It’s a long way to next October. Between now and then there are a lot of uncertainties: Injuries, moves by other teams (For example, how would the Phillies acquisition of Halladay change your confidence?) The unexpected rise of a young super star on a competing, contending team, career years by players on other teams, a decline in performance from our older stars, etc., etc.

        There is uncertainty in the future, so I understand someone being less than 10.

        • Evil Empire

          I can respect that perception.

          That said, its just as likely for our young superstars to rise, our dudes to have career years, etc.

          But yeah, can’t argue with someone having a 9. EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT FAN CONFIDENCE POLL IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE!

          • Bob Stone

            ietcvm – The other factor is that we all differ in our personal level of optimism.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      It’s basically the same team that won it all this year, so what’s not to be confident about?

      Quibble:

      The team that won it all last year had Damon at LF and Matsui at DH.

      So far, we’ve replaced one of those two, thanks to Granderson. We have yet to replace the other. Until that happens, it’s not really the “same” team that won it all this year.

      • Evil Empire

        Counter quibble:

        The team that won it all last year had a 23-24 year old Joba Chamberlain as its #4 starter, and his innings limit was juggled awkwardly. The Joba of 2010 should be markedly better and more consistent.

      • Bob Stone

        Details, Details . . . .

        Gut true none the less.

        • Bob Stone

          *But

          • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

            Hey, I’m with you. We haven’t filled the Matsui vacancy yet, but I still voted a 10, baby.

            • Bob Stone

              LOL – Am I supposed to be surprised? I was sure that if anyone could do it, you would have figured out a way to vote 11 or moreby now.

  • Sal

    How about Jermane Dye for RF/DH? Right handed power, good defense, strong arm?

    • Evil Empire

      Hell. No.

      I don’t know where you got the ridiculous assertion that Dye is good defensively, either. He’s had a UZR/150 of MINUS 21.4 OR WORSE over the last 4 years (-24.5 in 2009). He’s wretched defensively.

    • http://bronxbaseballdaily.com Matt ACTY/BBD

      good defense

      Jermaine Dye’s RF UZR/150 since 2002:
      -20.3
      -15.0
      9.8
      -2.6
      -21.5
      -21.5
      -21.4
      -24.5

      Good defense and Jermaine Dye are not synonymous.

      • Evil Empire

        /high five

      • Andy in Sunny Daytona

        At least he’s consistent.

        • Angelo

          +42

      • Thomas

        Yeah, but he hasn’t put a negative UZR/150 at DH in years.

        Also, as Joe Morgan would say “he has been cosistent.”

      • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

        (pours bleach in eyes)

      • Rose

        Let’s bank on that 2004 UZR! Yeehaaawww!!!

  • AndrewYF

    When are we going to get a fancy chart showing week-by-week results of fan confidence? You could keep it on the left side of the page and update it at the end of every poll.

    • Bob Stone

      You’re kidding . . . right?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      OH SHIT YOU MADE BOB ANGRY.

      • Bob Stone

        I have my sarcasm meter in for repairs this week so I wasn’t sure if there was a good joke in there . . . somewhere.

    • A.D.

      When are we going to get a fancy chart showing week-by-week results of fan confidence?

      When you start reading the entire post.

      http://riveraveblues.com/fan-confidence-poll/

      • AndrewYF

        I offer my deep apologies to Bob.

        • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

          KNEEL BEFORE BOB!!!!

          (snootchie bootchies)

          • Bob Stone

            Very funny. It’s only a friggiin’ graph.

  • thurdonpaul

    im almost at a 10…i would say im at 9.7 , i cant give them a 10 because of LF/DH. also small pitching concerns.
    ill vote 9, for now

    • Angelo

      That sounds really funny. The Yankees getting a good LF/DH is only a “0.3″ increase in confidence for you. I vote an 8 because the future of the team will look very interesting a few years from now as it currently stands. As for my confidence in the team going into next season, well then I’d vote a 9. 10 would mean this team is perfect and this team is not perfect.

  • Mike HC

    Cashman is the man. I can’t help but have complete faith in him. 10 all the way.

    • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

      Cashman fanboys like u make me sick. Had you even HEARD of Jamie Hoffmann before they picked him in the r5 draft???

      /SalBoGrantLanny’d

      • Bob Stone

        ietlcivm

        lci = Lanny comment impersonation.

  • Mike HC

    Hey RAB, at some point you should do a fan confidence poll analysis article. And go over what the circumstances were surrounding the valleys and peaks. Not sure what the best time for that would be. Maybe during Spring Training or something. Just an idea.

    • Bob Stone

      I like the idea.

      • OldYanksFan

        How about a fan confidence poll in Cashman?

        • Angelo

          YOUR GOING TOO FAR MAN!

    • Evil Empire

      Oh god. That’s basically asking them to analyze the innerworkings of how the average fan thinks.

      Remember: when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back at you.

      • Bob Stone

        It would analyze the EVENTS that trigger the inner workings of how the average fan thinks . . injuries, winning streaks, losing streaks, ups and downs of the starters, the bull pen, the competition, trades, etc.

        So . . I still like the idea.

        • Evil Empire

          Haha yeah, I like the idea too actually. I just couldn’t resist the opportunity to sneak in a Nietzche allusion on a baseball forum.

          • Bob Stone

            Ha Ha. I like Nietzche too.

            • OldYanksFan

              Nietzche? Is he a pitcher or position player?

          • Mike HC

            ha, I’m not up on my Nietzche. Missed the reference.

      • Mike HC

        It is asking them to analyze the innerworkings of how RAB readers think, which include me and you.

      • http://Youcan'tincreaseyourrange TLVP

        so people voting on this site are average fans?

    • http://www.riveraveblues.com Mike Axisa

      As I’ve been doing this, I’ve noticed that the events of the previous weekend play a gigantic role in the voting. If the Yanks won five games during the weak convincingly, but lost Sunday because of an Ichiro walk-off homer, the voting would be in the tank.

      But yeah, that’s definitely something worth doing.

      • Mike HC

        Interesting. I guess talk radio has already taught us that though. What have you done for me lately? As in, yesterday.

        • Bob Stone

          Unfortunately, that is so true.

        • Bob Stone

          And fortunately, RAB comments are a good antidote to talk-radio panic mentality.

          • Evil Empire

            RAB is a safe haven for baseball common sense. And pussytubing.

            • http://twitter.com/tsjc68 tommiesmithjohncarlos a/k/a Archimedes Torquemada

              Now wait on the line for five minutes while I eat this sub.

      • http://Youcan'tincreaseyourrange TLVP

        its probably worse than that – if Mitre started on Sunday and we still won it would still be down because they were reminded he got starts for us

        • Mike HC

          hahha, funny. Is it concerning that I have slightly less confidence even after a mere comment in reference to Mitre’s past starts? It wouldn’t be fun if pure emotional reactions were completely left out of fandom.

  • Dax J.

    Hey, I just read in MLBTR that Buster Olney mentions the Yanks as a possible destination for Brian Giles. Is there any truth to this? Do you guys think he’s a player worth a look?

  • Evil Empire

    OMG BOSOX MIGHT SIGN LACKEY!!!

    Is it too late to change my confidence level to 0?

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