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Fan Confidence Poll: February 1st, 2010

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2009 Season Record: 103-59 (915 RS, 753 RA), won AL East by 8 games, finished with the best record in MLB by 6 games, won 27th World Series

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Given the team's current roster construction, farm system, management, etc., how confident are you in the Yankees' overall future?
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  1. Angelo says:

    Joba has a 1.65 ERA this season while striking out 352 batters next season. Put it down now!

    For this I give the Yankees a 9 going into next season because Randy Winn is arguably the worst signing in Yankee history. No Winn equals a 10 thats how bad he is.

    /Generic Yankee fan’d

  2. I was about to vote a 10, as usual, since we’re all pimp and shit.

    But the Randy Winn signing was the final straw. I’m cancelling [sic] my RAB Fan Confidence Poll season ticket package and voting a 1 from now on.

    • king of fruitless hypotheticals says:

      why doesnt this poll go to eleventy???

      if joba’s going to ST early, so am I.

      be there in three weeks. I’m going make little oaktag signs and ask players to hold them and take pics…boversimplified! to teh 8th!11! ok, i’m going to ask them to hold my kid, then photoshop the signs in. whatever.

      • Angelo says:

        Arent you quite the optimistic fan

        • king of fruitless hypotheticals says:

          i’m optimistic in everything. i bet if winnie the pooh was an adult show, eyeore would have had a stroke or heart attack (or at least be suffering from major depression) by now. its tough, but its worth it.

          for baseball…you can be realistic–if you dont think AJ’s going to make his whole contract injury free, and you don’t think one of hughes/joba will be a top 3 starter, that’s completely rational. some people say ‘AJ’s wasted money’ and ‘joba’s a bust’ and that’s not completely rational. that’s probably an indication of a little bit of unhealthy in their attitude in day-to-day life.

          i poll 10 all off season. guaranteed to poll 10 when we win in the post season. injuries scare me, so i drop a lot at first, then when my rational mind catches up (plus the first report is always wrong, so a little calm medical explanation two days later helps), i go back up. big names causes a permanent loss (arod and wang being out dropped me to 8 for a few weeks).

          plus, and i dont know if people have noticed this, our team @#$@#$ ROCKS!!!

          AJ? Tex? Arod? Jeter? CC? MO?!?!

          you can leave off a lot of players and still be pretty damn optimistic about this team…i’m pretty sure i could play LF for this team and they’d win 85 games, how irrational is it to think somebody that can hit a FB over 80 or any type of curve can play left and not win another 10??

  3. pete says:

    “2009 Season Record: 103-59 (915 RS, 753 RA), won AL East by 8 games, finished with the best record in MLB by 6 games, won 27th World Series”

    doesn’t ever get old

    I went with a 10. I think this is the clear-cut best team in baseball right now, which precludes the “now” part of my confidence from being anything less than a 10. As for the “future” part, it’s not as bleak as it would seem looking purely at our current farm. There are a couple of 5th/6th starter types in the high minors that should provide us with good rotation depth for the next few years, and Jesus should graduate by the end of this year.

    While some bemoan the “aging core”, it doesn’t worry me as much. Not because I don’t expect some (moderate) decline from Jeter and A-Rod, and fairly significant decline in the nearer future from Jorge and Andy, but because I simply don’t see them (the latter two, at least) as the “core” anymore. Sure, derek’s and alex’s bats are huge pieces of our lineup, but I doubt that either experiences a severe offensive dropoff in the next 3 or so years, and they’re both good enough athletes that the defense shouldn’t reach horrendous levels in that time frame. Also, we have Cano, Granderson, Tex, and Swisher for the next few years, and there’s a good chance that Jorge is a good offensive player right up until the point when Jesus is a more than capable replacement. This is a team that will hit for good power and high OBPs for a good long time. Yes, some defensive holes should develop, but offensively, we should be fine.

    As far as the rotation goes, this year should tell us a little more about what we have in Joba, and potentially hughes (if not this year then next year certainly will), and I for one am pretty confident in his abilities going forward. We already have CC and AJ for the next several years, and while a significant regression from AJ would not at all surprise me, I do expect him to be a reasonably productive back-end arm for the duration of his contract, and CC is CC. If Hughes and Joba can both develop into quality starters, which I believe they can, then the yanks should have a very strong 1-4 for the next several years as well, and adding a quality #5 starter, either through trade, FA, or from within, is not particularly difficult.

    In the next five years or so, I expect all of the “problems” that the yankees face to be fairly fixable ones. Obviously the yankees have a lack of quality position player prospects – only one OF in heathcott, and no IF, as far as solid bets to become contributing regulars goes. However, the league is not lacking in quality position players, and given their heaping supply of pitching, both in the high-ceiling and high-probability departments, and catching talent, the yankees should be able to rig up a deal for a quality SS (the only position that really worries me a couple years down the road) if/when the need arises.

  4. Oh, and, this was from Saturday, so I’m sure you guys have already commented on it, but:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/esp.....ney_buster

    Golf clap and well said. There’s only one reason that Johnny Damon isn’t a Yankee anymore: Johnny Damon. He thought (thinks?) he was (is?) worth way more than he was (is?) worth, and he refused to wake up and smell the coffee.

    Good luck to you wherever you go, sir. Hopefully you find an Abreu situation and rebuild yourself, with some humility.

  5. arosen15 says:

    I am feeling quite good. I loved the Winn signing.
    Do we recall some of the Yankee left fielders during the 90′s dynasty?

    Gerald Williams, Raines, Spencer, Ledee, Polonia.
    Dion James got a lot of at bats.

    I like the fact that Cashman has a plan. If not a budget, a plan.

  6. Johnny says:

    It would be ridiculous to say the Yankees aren’t as good or better than they were last season.

  7. matt says:

    anyone else see Johnny Damon compare himself to Jeter again? He said something along the lines of “I know Jeter’s contract is up next season, I just hope they don’t treat him the same way they treated me.”

    Come on Johnny, you’re better than that….I think.

    • Riddering says:

      In the Yankee-Damon breakup that comment was obviously the drunken message he left at 3 in the morning. A few hours later he called back crying and saying, “I didn’t mean it! I love you.”

      • matt says:

        haha, good stuff!

        Here’s how I see the Jeter contract negotiations going down.

        Cash: “Derek, here’s a piece of paper, write the amount of years and dollars per season and I’ll give you a check”

        Derek: “20 million a year for 4 years”

    • Januz says:

      That comment out of Damon’s “Mouth” was classic Boras. They did not treat him bad at all, and it will be interesting to see if they draft Boras clients in the 2010 Sraft?

      • it will be interesting to see if they draft Boras clients in the 2010 Draft?

        I’m going to go out on a non-limb and say that there’s less than a 1% chance that this Boras-Damon-Cashman kerfluffle has any impact at all on the Yankee-Boras relationship going forward. We’re not going to pull a White Sox and stop drafting Boras advisees or something, because we’re smart enough to not let some personal acrimony (that’s probably not even there at all, mind you) preclude us from adding elite talent to our organization.

        We’ll be drafting/signing plenty of Boras clients going forward. We know it, and he knows it. It’s business as usual.

        • A.D. says:

          Agreed, the issue of not re-signing Damon isn’t so much a Boras issue, as a player demands issue, that was made even worse by the agent being Boras, and likely putting unrealistic demands in the players head.

          Damon said he wanted to stay in NY, that he loves NY, he also said he wanted 2/22, which naturally Boras inflated to at least 2/26.

          As it stands now, Yankees have offered Damon the best contract that we know of.

        • Januz says:

          TSJC, you are probably right about that, but I don’t have 99% certainity over this. The Yankees went a number of years without dealing with Boras because of the Bernie Williams negotiations, and it certainly did not kill them. It will be interesting to see how Cashman/Hal conducts business as time goes by.

      • Pasqua says:

        Boras wants a lot of money for his clients and the Yankees have a lot of money. Nothing will ever break up that pairing.

    • Rose says:

      I thought it was “I wonder if they’ll try to give him a 40% pay cut” or something along those lines.

      Damon doesn’t understand that while teams usually don’t play favorites when valuing certain players…Derek Jeter is in a league of his own (regarding the Yankees) and Johnny Damon certainly shouldn’t be comparing himself to him.

      • A.D. says:

        That and Jeter rocked a 7 win WAR last year. Between the offense & the glove was likely one of his top 3 seasons (unfortunately no WAR for late 90′s)

    • A.D. says:

      Link for people who missed it:

      http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....dough.html

      “I’m not ruling out being in New York, whether it’s not this year or whether it is,” Damon said. “Whether I start the season with them, or whether they trade for me at the deadline, or if they sign me next year or what not, I love New York.

      Already working on being the DH and/or Carl Crawford back-up plan

      • Tom Zig says:

        Already working on being the DH and/or Carl CrawfordJayson Werth back-up plan

        • Meh, all things (i.e. salary) being equal, I’d probably take Crawford over Werth.

          For the moment, though, put me in the Monty Brewster Memorial “None of the Above” column. I’m doubtful that either would be a good price-to-production value.

          • Tom Zig says:

            Really? Crawford over Werth?

            But if neither…then who? The Yankees can get away with a revolving door until one of the brothers Upton becomes available (I doubt they will).

            • Steve H says:

              BJ could, Justin might down the road, just due to the Dbacks financial situation. Aren’t they paying for that 2001 title until like 2030 or something? I think they had some Bonilla-esque situations with some of those contracts.

            • pete says:

              I think they will probably do the revolving door thing. Lets say that Gardner gets 500+ ABs this year, and hits like he did last year, and puts up the same UZR as he did last year. That’d make him a 3+ WAR player, which, even on this nosediving FA market, has an open maket value of what, $6m? $7? If the yankees find that they have a three win player in gardner who not only stands to make the MLB minimum for 3 years, but is also, based on his utter lack of power, sub-.400 OBP (also meaning his SB totals won’t be that gaudy – maybe 50, tops), and mediocre batting average, unlikely to make more than maybe $2-$3 million, tops, in arb raises. If the yankees can get starter-level production from LF/CF for the next six years for an average of about $1 million per year, that could give them HUGE flexibility elsewhere, which could allow them to bid on really high quality free agents, like they did after ’08. That, I believe, is their strategy.

          • Chris says:

            My concern with Crawford is that one of his main tools is his speed, which is also one of the first tools to decline.

          • pete says:

            “I’m doubtful that either would be a good price-to-production value.”

            that. the yanks have, and will have for the next several years, far too good of a team to be paying an aging Carl Crawford $18 million a year to OBP .340. Let the angels do that. I’m not trying to discredit Crawford – he was something like a 7 WAR player last year. But it’s going to be a long time before the yankees actually NEED 7 wins out of left field, and at that price, whatever you’re getting really has to be an absolute necessity.

  8. Riddering says:

    Ten. Joba is going to go all Nebraska over everyone’s asses this season and it will be beautiful.

  9. Rose says:

    So who would everyone rather see in the bullpen as of right now…

    Joba or Phil?

    (Ultimately, Spring Training will have the final say…but just curious about right now)

    • Chris says:

      I expect the loser of the 5th starter battle to start the year in AAA to be ready as the 6th starter when the inevitable injury hits.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        No I doubt that. They let Phil stay in the bullpen when Wang got hurt again. I expect them to use the loser as only the most important 8th inning guy.

        • Chris says:

          They let Hughes stay in the pen because it was June and the pen was terrible at the start of the year. I could see a similar scenario playing out this year, but I don’t see the Yankees doing either 1) moving Hughes (or Joba) from the pen to the rotation in mid-season and 2) limiting them to a reliever role starting in April.

          If all of the starters are healthy in June and the pen is struggling, then I can see them moving one to the pen. Before that I find it unlikely.

        • pete says:

          agreed. I don’t agree with this plan, but that does appear to be the way they lean. Of course, there’s a pretty solid chance that both Cash and Girardi have a bit better idea of what they’re doing than I do, so i’m willing to be deferential to them.

          • Chris says:

            I’m curious… where has Cash or Girardi said that Hughes would likely go to the pen?

            Here’s a quote from him when he had that interview with Michael Kay back in December:

            And the remaining guys would either go to our bullpen or go to AAA as options.

            He later said that he’d be ok with one going to the pen next season, but that right now they are both starters. It’s about as non-committal a quote as you could get.

            • pete says:

              I’m just trying through immersion therapy to immunize myself to the decision to further stunt Hughes’s development as a starter. The more I convince myself that it’s simply going to be that way, the less it bugs me. So right now, I’m at the point in self-assurance where my inner dialogue basically goes like this “Hughes is in the Pen. It’s ok, though, because A) he really does strengthen that bullpen, and B) he’ll improve his ability to execute out-pitches against major league hitters, which will help him as a starter next year, but my subconscious is still holding out hope that Hughes just finally gets that full year at AAA that he’s always needed.

        • king of fruitless hypotheticals says:

          yeah, while i think we want #6 to be in AAA logging innings and working on a curve (you know who you are), i think that phil, er, the #6 will end up staying in the Bronx. i dont know that smoking org fillers will build them anything but lifelong armstrength…

    • If one has to go to the pen, it should be Phil.

      Joba has no innings limits, and has been building up arm strength. It would be A) foolish to choose the pitcher who has limits over the one who doesn’t, for current 2010 roster optimization and competitiveness reasons, and B) a mistake to squander the innings progression Joba has already established by curtailing his innings after we’ve worked this hard to get him up to and over the 200 IP threshhold.

      Joba HAS TO be the 5th starter. Even if Phil outpitches him.

      • JobaWockeeZ says:

        Joba HAS TO be the 5th starter. Even if Phil outpitches him.

        The scenario of Phil outpitching Joba doesn’t mean much in a short sample in ST. Joba needs to be the 5th starter.

        • pete says:

          a great big pile of THIS. ST performances are, for the most part, pretty meaningless. They give you a decent sense of who might start the season hot, but that’s it.

      • Zack says:

        That.

        We always talk about SSS, but then we want to decide the rotation on ST. How many real starts (ie 90+ pitches) do SP get in ST? 2 or 3?

  10. gc says:

    I find it interesting that the same people (fans and media) who are coming down the hardest on the Yankees for letting Matsui and Damon go are the same ones who seem to be so worried about the “aging core” all the sudden. But wouldn’t keeping Damon and Matsui made that worse?? Or are they really that blinded by sentimentality?

    • Scenario A: The Yankees let Matsui and Damon walk, and replace them with Johnson and Granderson.

      Mediot reaction: The Yankees let proven winners go and stupidly broke up their solid, dynamite core. They’ve gotten worse.

      Scenario B: The Yankees reup Matsui and Damon and don’t pursue any younger position player reinforcements (eschewing opportunities like Granderson and Johnson, who sign/get traded elsewhere).

      Mediot reaction: The Yankees foolishly bet on older players and passed up the chance to get younger and more athletic. They brought back the old team intact and didn’t add any fresh blood, and when you’re not actively improving, you’re “standing still” and standing still equals getting worse.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_win_situation

      • Jose says:

        Scenario C: The Yankees reup Matsui and Damon. They also add Johnson and Granderson.

        Mediot reaction: The team has no chemistry and they are trying to buy a championship.

        • Jose says:

          That scenario also assumes the removal of Swisher. How can someone with such a low batting average be successful?

          • pete says:

            that’s if swisher IS on the team. If he isn’t, they carefully avoid mentioning his success and production by wondering how the yankees could allow themselves to get rid of such an important clubhouse presence on a championship team.

            Following the MSM for more than shits and giggles can only drive an intelligent person insane. I just love that there’s always RAB to keep my head from exploding

        • Matt Taibbi’s reaction: This Yankee team is a horrible mismash of overpaid mercenaries, and while they may be supremely talented, the resulting clash of egos will destroy the team and cause them to implode, play horribly, and miss the playoffs with a 42-120 record. And then we’ll all laugh and drink bloody marys and dance on the grave, because we’re masking our jealousy with projection and sublimation and mock outrage at the unfairness of the system, when what we really want is for the system to be unfairly tilted in OUR TEAM’S favor. Oh, and some hackneyed metaphors and barbless, banal curse words to make my writing sound edgy, blah blah blah.

        • bexarama says:

          Scenario D: The Yankees add Javy Vazquez.
          Mediot reaction: 2004!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. Matt says:

    You say “back of the pack” about the farm system and link to an article that says “middle of the pack.”

  12. wiljaq1 says:

    could PLEASE stop the Daomon reports?

    It’s over.

  13. Matt says:

    I don’t understand how you can possibly vote below 7. The team just won the world series.

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