Fan Confidence Poll: July 29th, 2013

Pineda goes four innings in latest AAA start
Alex Rodriguez and the best case scenario

Record Last Week: 3-4 (20 RS, 26 RA)
Season Record: 55-50 (407 RS, 415 RA, 51-54 pythag. record), 7.2 GB ALE/2.5 GB WC
Opponents This Week: Mon. OFF, @ Dodgers (two games, Tues. to Weds.), Thurs. OFF, @ Padres (three games, Fri. to Sun.)

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Please take a second to answer the poll below and give us an idea of how confident you are in the team. You can view the interactive Fan Confidence Graph anytime via the nav bar above, or by clicking here. Thanks in advance for voting.

Pineda goes four innings in latest AAA start
Alex Rodriguez and the best case scenario
  • Just a Guy

    I used to vote 6 and get yelled at for voting too low.

    Now I’m using the exact same criteria and my vote is one of the higher ones.

    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

      I’m not sure any regulars would have yelled at you for a 6 being too low. Most yelling happens at people for voting too high.

      I’ve been between a 6 and 7 basically all year. I was tired of all the setbacks so last week I was a 6; this week I’m feeling more optimistic with Jeter back and Grandy around the corner, so back up to 7.

      My long term outlook doesn’t change week to week.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      I’ve been at a six for most of the season and get accused of offering sexual favors to Cash and Hal on a daily basis.

      Advanced warning: I went higher than six this week. Slurp slurp.

  • Hassey

    Has one team ever suffered so many lost seasons for so many different players?

  • Pseudoyanks

    I’ve been mostly voting 6’s each week, but voted 5 this morning.

    • Brian in MA

      It just seems so bleak doesn’t it? Current roster construction, and current ownership tendencies, all point to overpaying aging veterans who are injury prone. At some point, you have to stop “waiting for guys to come back” and start getting more from younger players. I like Gardner, a lot, but he shouldn’t be the best offensive player to come out of the farm system since Cano. He should be a nice supplemental piece who we let go of in a couple years or gets slotted to 4th OF soon.

  • trr

    Still at “4”.
    Yesterday was great, but just one day.
    Hoping for the best, though….

  • fat jeter

    Yesterday’s win was a nice little glimpse at what a “real” lineup can do, but there’s still a lot of work to be done. I’m at a 3 right now — a fractured front office and a GM backing away from pretty much every move made this season doesn’t inspire a ton of confidence. With that said, as the deadline approaches, it will be interesting to see if Joba or Hughes is cast aside and if more on-the-wrong-side-of-35 offensive reinforcements will be collected. That might pull me up to a 5.

  • mitch

    I’m back up to a 6. As ugly as this season has been, they’re 2 games out of the WC with 57 to play. They’re also pretty close to putting out a respectable lineup.

    More importantly, it’s looking likely that Arod is going to be serving a pretty lengthy suspension. That might hurt a bit this year, but an extra 20+ mil to spend next year is enormous.

  • CS Yankee

    Down to a 5 as I think that Cashman isn’t motivated to salvage the 2013 season…if ownership pounces on a deal without giving up the farm.

    Trade Hughes, Joba and Campos for Willin Rosario and I would move to a 8.

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      This whole pile of words seems illogical.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Maybe it’s a high off of yesterday, but we are back up to a 7 over here.

    Rest of season: A slight slift from under even money to slightly over even money. In other words, from 4 to 6.

    2014: I’m on a Soriano high right now. What can I say. I actually feel this team might have LESS to do than we think next year, with Selig presenting us with a nice present, hopefully today. Up to 7.

    Beyond: We’re the Yankees. 8.

    Top half of that lineup is going to very quickly look a lot better, health-permitting. It seems like some additional flexibility is coming to make some moves. I still look forward to a HEALTHY Tyler Austin joining Slade Heathcott in AAA sometimes next season and knocking on that door.

    I just feel good today.

    • Dr. TJ Eckelberg

      +1 on the Selig gift. That saved money allows the Yankees to potentially fill some voids with decent players either through free agency or through salary dumps. I think they are about 4 players away, and $20mm can certainly get there.

      They don’t need those people to be superstars, just solid role players and contributors. We’ve seen what scrubs can do, imagine just getting league average production out of some of those spots.

      • JLC 776

        This is all a great point. $20M can do a lot if invested wisely. If invested at all.

  • thundergoat

    what are they going to do when granderson comes back? Put Soriano at DH and DFA Hafner?

    • Robinson Tilapia

      Yeah. I think that’s pretty much it. I think we’ve seen the last of Pronk. Good guy, but that goose is cooked.

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      Personally, I’m hoping Grandy pushes Ichiro to the bench and they start a league average-ish hitter (Michael Young!) at DH.

      • Former ACE MannyGeee

        If Micheal Young is on this team, he will be here for his glove and ability to play 1B(?)/3B and a “better than Nix” level. Not to say he’s not a real option, just not as a DH.

        Also, Ichiro’s defense is still better than Soriano/Wells, so he’ll still get his PAs. If anyone gets a hard line to DH, it would be one of those two.

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          Ichiro is a 4th OF, at best (the offense is still a little iffy, even as a 4th OF). I don’t want him playing regularly if it can be helped, no matter how good his defense in RF of Yankee Stadium is.

  • mitch

    Hafner and Grandy have to be healthy at the same time before that’s even an issue. I think they could carry both, but obviously if Hafner doesn’t turn things around he’d be easy to DFA

  • adjusts batting gloves

    I’m weighing in at five, this week. This has more to do with Cashman’s “Ownership made me acquire Soriano” comments than anything else. I’m starting to really fear that the Yankees are entering another 1980s-like decline cycle when a. Ownership and Front Office have competing and mutually undermining strategies and ownership continues to believe that ‘New Yorkers won’t take rebuilding’ and a pseudo-competitive team must be trotted out on the field with overpriced ‘name-brand’ stars to sell tickets. Also, I’m not sure I trust that the Yankees have figured out how to function with the new CBA,luxury tax levels, and the amateur and international draft rules. It’s starting to seem likely that a flawed 85-win team could remain a flawed 85-win team for several years.

    • Poconos Adam

      I went down to a 4 (from usual 6) because of this ownership vs. Cashman thing — this is BAD.

  • Duh Injuries

    7 explained:

    1 point – Rotation overall

    1 point – Bullpen after Mariano Rivera

    1 point – Defense

    1 point – Cano and Gardner being consistently good all season

    1 point – The returns of Jeter, Soriano, and hopefully as early as Friday Granderson

    1 point – The second wildcard

    1 point – Mariano Rivera having his finest season considering his age, that he played for only a little over a month last season, and that he’s coming off what would’ve been a career-ending injury for most players. He MUST be given the A.L. Comeback Player Of The Year and should definitely be in the top ten in the A.L. Cy Young Award voting if not in the top five and be in the top ten in the A.L. MVP voting.

    3 points off explained:

    1 point – The offense overall.

    1 point – The EIGHT losses where the Yanks gave up only a run or two (a pair of 1-0 losses and six 2-1 losses.) If they had won just half of these games they’d be the second wildcard 1.5 games ahead of Baltimore and only 3.5 games behind Tampa Bay.

    1 point – 4-15 vs. Boston (3-6), Oakland (1-5), and the Mets (0-4) as the Yanks are 51-35 in their other games.

    • Pat D

      I actually liked this post. Well reasoned.

      It also makes those losses to the Mets stand out all the more right now. If they’d just split those games, they’d be half a game behind Baltimore.

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      I can sign off on this.

    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

      Boston, ok. Oakland, meh but fine.

      0-4 against the Mets. *Shakes fist angrily*

  • LarryM Fl

    6 up from 5, I believe the team is in a better position to win some games. Jeter in the lineup means another guy who can make contact and be productive. I had happy tears watching that first pitch reach the RF seats,a pump fist in the air on the walk-off. Soriano will bring a bit more hitting than Wells, I don’t know if it was evident to other viewers but Jeter’s presence made Cano toe the line being a bit more professional/series/in the momment on the field.

    I like this guy Lillinbridge (spelling). He can field the position. Now just get his bat going.

    I do not see how Girardi can still pencil Hughes name in as a starter after 7/31. Waiting as everyone else is for Selig to castrate Arod for 2013 & 2014 which will possibly end his career with a agreed buyout for the remainder of the contract.

    • LarryM Fl

      serious not series = -1

  • Robert

    If all our Grey beards were in there prime we would be in 1st by plenty.
    Reality is over 35 means injury and inconsistancy…

    Matsui day,big day by Ichiro Stadium sellout Huge rating by Yes Network in Japan puts a smile on Hanks face..

    There are at least 5 teams out there that would win the World Series by adding Kuroda,am I crazy to think we could get a top ten Minor league prospect in return!!!

    • Former ACE MannyGeee

      You had me at “Am I crazy…”

      Seriously, coulda stopped there.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        You just gotta roll with it sometimes.

  • JLC 776

    I’d love to know how much the previous game’s result impacts the FCP. I think a loss (and 3-7 since the ASB) would have sent the score into another tailspin and would have warranted another footnote on the poll’s chart. I think the walk-off win with Jeter heroics will wind up adding a full half a point or more to the final tally.

    Anyway, I’m not swayed by short-term success and still sit at 4. The comments about Cashman and leadership feuding really have made me a pessimist about the future. I now see that Cashman will either walk, be fired, or be murdered and the team will turn into Hal’s real life fantasy squad. Ugh…

    • Robinson Tilapia

      “Feuding” is a bit of a strong word there.

      • JLC 776

        I guess I really don’t know what’s going on there (all that I’ve seen is the Sherman piece). But whatever it is, mixed messages coming from the FO doesn’t fill me with confidence for the future. Half of me is pissed at Cashman for letting any kind of disagreement public (is he posturing for a better deal with another club, is he distancing himself from what he thinks is a ticking time bomb, wtf!), and half of me is pissed at Hal for potentially micromanaging deals again.

        I just don’t know how to read it yet, but I know I don’t like it.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          I think he likes to hear himself talk. I wish he wasn’t talking about these things. It’s not like he sounded overly upset about the whole thing. It’s not like it’s helpful to anyone. Really, if I were Brian Cashman, I’d find what I had to go through trying to sign some guys over the off-season far more frustrating.

          I don’t really raise an eyebrow with that whole thing, though. For one, I agree with the Soriano trade, so that would be point for ownership. Also, though, I just don’t think it’s realistic to expect ownership to stay completely out of the way at all times, nor do I think competing interests amongst those in a leadership position is a bad thing as long as there’s mutual respect. There is zero evidence anywhere that there’s a lack of respect between all parties here.

          I think Cashman’s here until they all agree it’s time for him to go do something else in the org and time for a fresh voice to step in. It wouldn’t surprise me if that happened in the next 2-3 seasons or so. It would surprise me if it was this off-season.

          • JLC 776

            I guess, ultimately, it comes down to this: no one from the top of the Yankee organization has called me to explain, in detail, what the 1, 2, 5, and 10 year plans are for the team.

            When that happens, I will happily bring my CP score up a few notches. If I agree with it.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              There seems to be a pattern here. They’re not calling wayne as to their plans with the minor league pitchers either.

              That’s just no way to run a franchise.

              • JLC 776

                Pathetic, I know…

        • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…

          Totally agreed. Word choice is semantics. But there is disfunction, and that’s bad.

          • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

            Semantics are pretty important in a written medium.

            • Robinson Tilapia

              That could have been written better, Jim.

              • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

                So’s your face.

      • SDB

        Yup. The Cashman v. Steinbrenner thing’s really being blown out of proportion – seemed that both wanted to get Soriano, but Cashman was being more patient/wanted the Cubs to make it cheaper, Steinbrenner just wanted the trigger pulled ASAP at a higher price. Don’t see why some are turning it into a great war threatening to tear the front office apart.

        • YanksFan

          Agreed. I think it was ESPN had an article stating that Cash was all in on Sori. He had already gotten them down to Black and figured he could get them lower in a few days. This is a non-story to me.

          Also, people have to get used to this fact: All owners are involved in their team’s moves. They set up a budget and your GM has to work within it. They can ask to go over but have to convince their bosses. This is a little different with the owner saying I don’t care about the player cost. Especially since it’s a lottery ticket who BA had had ranked 25th in the organization before the season.

  • trueblue

    5.. And I think I’m being kind

    The roster is rife with guys on the wrong side of 30, about to give another killer contract to a guy over 30.

    The rotation is anchored by a massive contract who has give up 7 in 3 straight starts, follwed by Kuroda who might not be here next year, Nova who is a question mark, #46 who looks 46, and Hughes- who is terrible.

    Mariano, probably the most reliable player on the roster is retiring.

    The Farm system, as has shown through out this injury filled season has no impact players ready to contribute to the big club. On top of that the owners are jumping the GM to make player moves (we have seen how those worked out for the most part)- speaking of… When you are rooting for a lifetime suspension to help un-cripple the payroll, you gotta shake your head.

    I’d change to a 4 if I hadn’t already voted.

  • Eddard

    10 10 10! Jeter’s back, Soriano’s back and all is good again. Grandy will be back in a week to hit 5th behind Soriano. If they’d let A-Rod play they’d have a solid 1-6 and then Overbay/Ichiro would hit in the bottom of the order and wouldn’t be relied on as much. Only sitting 2 back of a playoff spot. I like their chances with the reinforcements arriving at just the right time.

    Biggest concern is CC. They have 2 solid starters and really need that 3rd for the stretch run.

    • Mike HC

      The excitement around Jeter’s comeback and ARod’s Biogenesis stuff has really overshadowed the question of whether we should be panicking about CC or not.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        I don’t know if “panicking” is the word.

        No, I don’t think we should be “panicking” about his long-term future…yet. I do think we should be extremely concerned about him the rest of the way this season.

        At this point, though, I feel like this team could get by if they had to pull him for a couple of weeks and look at what is happening mechanically. People are clearly seeing arm slot issues with the naked eye, even as his velocity has gotten back. Nova not turning back into a pumpkin in the interim would be huge there, as well as Phelps returning and pitching some average ball.

        • Former ACE MannyGeee

          I am in full panic mode over CC this season. I am suspecting his health.

          Its too easy to say “Teh V-LOW!” but CC has ALWAYS had legit secondary stuff. Right now he doesn’t: He’s hanging sliders left & right, breaking balls are not breaking, and his overall control is shaky.

  • Mike HC

    Gotta bump it to a seven. I’m just excited to see an actual major league lineup for the rest of the season.

    • JLC 776

      Whoa whoa whoa… you watch what you say there. The injury reaper will claim those MLB bats right back.

  • Bavarian Yankee

    down from a 6 to a 4.

    Ownership doing trades again, no signs of a plan for the future. I wonder why the Yanks even have a GM when he’s not allowed to do anything he wants to. The next years will be interesting, that’s for sure.

    • BFDeal

      I don’t think any GM is allowed to “do anything he wants to”. They all have to answer to ownership.

      • Bavarian Yankee

        sure but since the offseason Cashman wasn’t allowed to do anything basically. Wells and Youkilis have ownership written all over it, and we also know Ichiro wasn’t his signing either. He wasn’t allowed to spend money on Martin and Schierholtz. I mean there’s pretty likely no GM in the bigs that has less influence on his team than Cashman right now.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          Shit, I see some Cashman in Wells and Youk as well.

          • Former ACE MannyGeee

            Yup, Youk and Wells were both “panic moves” for lack of a better term due to injuries to A-Rod and Granderson, respectively. If anyone in the league can go make a panic move for little to nothing, it’s Cashman. Granted, both guyts are expensive band-aids, but they cost a total of zero prospects.

  • Grover

    Always a nine with fear only surrounding Hal acquiring contracts that eat in to next year’s $189M and Cashman’s head perhaps not being in the game.

  • BFDeal

    At a 6 where I’ve been about all season. Yesterday was a nice win, but I don’t let blips on the radar sway me too far either way. I believe the circumstances with Cashman are being blown out of proportion. It doesn’t mean there’s a fractured front office or that the 5th seal of the apocalypse was broken. It simply means they disagreed on a decision. Happens every day in every business. I’m anxious to see what next 72 or so hours hold for the trade market.

  • Pat D

    Anyone else find it funny that the Tigers just acquired old pal Jose Veras?

    • Bavarian Yankee

      yeah, that’ll solve their problems. lol. They have such a great team but didn’t see the need to sign a proper closer in the offseason? I still can’t believe that.

  • steves

    I thought the Yanks were going to come out of the post-All-Star break at 1-9 or even 0-10 so 4-6 was not bad at all. I am “up” to a 4 (have been lower the last few weeks). Maybe the Yanks can hang with the O’s and Rangers (dare I say Indians) for the one-game wild card race but really need to see how the trade deadline and Arod play out. Hope the return of Jeter (by his example and presence) and the way Maddon went after him (couldn’t be more insulting) wakes up some dormant pride and hustle in Cano. Would love to see someone get in Cano’s face next time he doesn’t bust it out of the batter’s box (like Pedroia got into Ortiz’s face) but not likely to happen with the current Yankee management and player make-up.

  • Harris

    I’m at a 5, and if A-Rod’s contract somehow becomes voidable or he’s suspended through next season, I easily go to a 7. I’d like to see them deal for Morneau and Michael Young. Lyle Overbay’s .298 OBP just leaves a lot to be desired, and at the very least they need to find a platoon partner for him.

  • I’m not the droids you’re looking for…


    Here’s why:

    – Rest of this season depends on a lot going very right from here on out (CC rebounding, Nova persisting, Hughes improving, Granderson returning strong, Jeter performing, etc.). So even though we’re close, and reinforcements are presumably coming, this team is not scaring anyone, and doesn’t feel likely to me at all to advance in the playoffs (even if we’re lucky enough to get in)

    – Next year looks to be worse from my perspective. Our old lineup will be a year older, and that much more prone to injury and inevitable decline. CC is now a major question mark. Jeter, Arod (if he’s playing), Teix older. Likely no Kuroda. Pettitte already looks done. No Mo. Granderson likely gone. Still no MLB quality catcher. Cano here only if we overpay in $ and years. Thin FA market, made worse by the $189mm factor. Our primary prospects unlikely to make any meaningful impact until 2015 and 16. So…I think 2014 is going to be worse than this year.

    – 2015/16 and beyond I feel like that’s where things possibly improve year over year. But that’s ONLY if one or more prospect position players become useful everyday players.

    – FO feels terribly farked these days, airing dirty laundry publicly in a manner that screams disfunction. This larger context drags my views above that much further down. And it gives lie to the notion that “we are the Yankees” and that somehow will make everything okay. Not as I see it.

  • nsalem

    I think by 12 AM Thursday morning things will be very very different around here. This should be one of the more dramatic off the field periods in awhile with a flurry of trades coming down and suspensions being announced and who is deciding to appeal and who will accept MLB terms. I think this is going to get much crazier than it is now. Yankees btw will probably be playing at the time of the deadline. Besides the A-Rod situation I think the Yankee’s will be very active. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Hughes, Joba and Nunez gone.

    • JLC 776

      I’m thinking this will be a very quiet trade season (the two WC’s being a huge driver) all the way to the wire. I see the Yankees making a full-press to add a replacement level 3B or catcher, but nothing earth shattering. Likely it’ll be the kind of move that will cause the ‘sellers’ to be pissed at the lack of top level prospects and the ‘buyers’ pissed at the lack of young, impact superstars, but all in all the team will be marginally improved and we’ll make a push for the post season from there.

      The ARod thing will, of course, lead off the freaking national news when it happens. So there’ll be that to look forward to.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Yeah, although it surprises me to hear about the Angels selling, though. Too bad they’ll never sell who I’m sure they’d really love to sell. That franchise is just all sorts of wow.

    • Jim Is A (Bored) Peckerhead

      Nunez won’t be anywhere else.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        In Fantasyland moments, I trick the Angels into taking him one-up for Aybar.

  • Jump yay

    Down from 5 to 4 especially if dbag Levine is heavily involved. Have to wonder if they will actually spend the money they will save on Arod to improve the team long term. A fan since 60s and both team ownership and Arod acting like dicks. Only time will decide which one of the two comes out as bigger.

  • TomH


    • BFDeal

      I bet you gave Toronto an 8.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        *golf clap*

      • YanksFan

        I think he went with 11!

      • Get Phelps Up


        As in 14 games out.