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Fan Confidence Poll: July 1st, 2013

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Record Last Week: 1-5 (17 RS, 32 RA)
Season Record: 42-39 (310 RS, 326 RA, 38-43 pythag. record), 6.5 GB ALE/ 4.0 GB WC
Opponents This Week: @ Twins (four games, Mon. to Thurs.), vs. Orioles (three games, Fri. to Sun.)

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Please take a second to answer the poll below and give us an idea of how confident you are in the team. You can view the interactive Fan Confidence Graph anytime via the nav bar above, or by clicking here. Thanks in advance for voting.

Note: We’re trying out a new poll plug-in and apparently it takes you to a blank page after you cast your vote. The responses are being recorded on the back-end though, so just bear with us for a week while we figure this out.

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  • Tyrone Sharpton

    this might be one of the lowest results ever on these confidence polls

  • JLC 776

    I have a feeling this week’s poll is going to require a footnote to explain…

  • http:/www.twitter.com/_swarlesbarkley Mark Teixeira – Ghostbuster (formerly Drew)

    After the pitiful showing in Baltimore (which I went down to and paid to see) and with no help on the horizon, my confidence in this team is a 1.

  • TomH

    Finally, the poll is beginning to reflect reality instead of desire.

    • jjyank

      I disagree that 15% (at the moment) of people voting a 1 is reality. You will not convince me otherwise.

      • Manny’s BanWagon

        I ignore the 1′s, 2′s and 9′s, 10′s since those people have no clue or they’re not voting seriously. 3-8 are at least somewhat reasonable.

        • JCK

          The big problem with the poll in general is everyone votes based on a different perception of what the poll is asking. The poll is supposed to be a measure of confidence “in the Yankees’ overall future.”

          Does that mean their ability to win next week? make the playoffs? win the World Series? be competitive next year? 5 years from now?

          Everyone votes with different criteria, so the poll is all over the place.

          1 or 2 might be accurate if you’re talking about the team’s ability to win over the next few weeks. 9 or 10 might be believable if you think they can get back to being perennial WS favorites in the next couple of years.

        • NwkLaw

          That’s fun for you, but in no way a credible way to do things.

          • Cool Lester Smooth

            It’s also not credible to vote a 1, 2, 9 or 10 on this poll, so it balances out.

            • NwkLaw

              As described above, this is a totally subjective poll.

              You can’t just dismiss people you disagree with.

      • trr

        I agree, it’s a gut reaction to what was admittedly a god-awful week

        • The Other Sam

          I’ve been a 4 all along. No gut reaction, just a lack if confidence in ownership’s attitude- either do everything on the cheap or spend foolishly. At some point, as the number of god awful series increases, it becomes an overall picture.

          • TomH

            Sounds right to me, although I do include in my vote (down by 1 from a consistent #4) my view that the team’s age profile is a serious problem (I mean the normal team) as well as the effect Seligistic Leveling has on the Yankees.

            Ownership: I’ve never heard an interesting sentence from the mouth of Hal S. Sure, it’s possible that Cashman has reached the limit of his ability, but were he purged, Hal would remain behind and that’s a serious problem.

      • TomH

        I wouldn’t try to convince you. What I meant was that the general decline in confidence is a sign of rationality. 1 is certainly too low (in my view), but the proper outlook to have is one of general gloom in the Yankees’ prospects.

        • jjyank

          I hate it when people say that their opinion is the “proper outlook”.

          • TomH

            What is this, one of those cultural manifestations of democracy? “Let no man sound as if he knows the truth!” The general relativism of the age?

            People who pretend that what they think to be the truth is “just my opinion” are chicken.

            • jjyank

              What in the hell are you rambling about?

              • Cool Lester Smooth

                Obviously, you don’t get it, man. Don’t you know that using a bunch of big words nonsensically makes you smart?!

                • Manny’s BanWagon

                  Don’t you know that using a bunch of big words nonsensically makes you smart?!

                  If that’s what you think he did, it’s an indictment on you, not him. Not saying I agree or disagree but it made perfect sense to me.

                  • Cool Lester Smooth

                    It’s more that I think that anyone claiming to know the absolute truth is a fool.

                    I picked that up from Plato’s Apology.

                  • NwkLaw

                    I understood it, sure, but I would still say it made little to no actual sense.

              • Jim Is Bored

                I always enjoy TomH’s ramblings. Even if I rarely agree with them.

            • NwkLaw

              You go on about rationality in one comment and then pretending you know more than anyone else being the “manly” thing to do in another…

  • JLC 776

    So the lowest poll results were from the ALCS last year (which is just ridiculous) at a 4.41

    The next lowest were during the offseason following Tex’s injury at 4.59

    I have a feeling this week will be a bloodbath.

  • Eddard

    I’ve dropped from a 9.5 last week to a .025 this week. They can’t hit, they can’t pitch. They have two legitimate MLB hitters in their lineup.

    The only slim glimmer of hope I see for this club is that they play 11 games vs KC and Minny in the next two weeks before the ASB. If they can’t beat the AL East they should be able to do something against the Central. Problem is, the Yankees always used to be much better than those Central teams, now they’re more like even. They need to stay within 3-4 games until the ASB.

    • I’m One

      Leave it to Eddard to vote rationally. And do I need to remind you that the Yankees have come from far more than 4 or 5 games back well after the ASB and won the division?

      I’m voting a 7 with my confidence at about a 5 for this season, but much higher for years to come (until they prove me wrong). I suspect they’ll make a couple of moves prior to the trade deadline and I’m still hopefull they’ll put together a plan to keep the team in the playoff hunt for years to come. As businessmen, the FO understands that the value of the team is tied to being competitive. They’ll find a way to keep the winning tradition the Yankees are known for, even if there are a few bumps in the road.

  • Reggie C.

    Voted a 6. Probably should’ve dropped to a 5 but honestly I have not been following the ML team for a couple weeks now.

    There are a few things that merit watching in the second half that aren’t DJ or Arod related. Michael Pineda’s return to the rotation tops my list of most intriguing 2nd half stories. On the downside, I do also want to see what becomes of both Ivan Nova and Phil Hughes. The second half is going to determine if either guy is a rotation factor next season.

    • JLC 776

      Along your lines, my confidence (at least for the long-term) would actually go up if the team embraced some longer-term thinking on the field. Trading a piece or two for prospects, seeing Pineda finally play, maybe finding someone in the farm ready to play. But my fear is that they’ll make some kind of desperate “we’re still in this!” move at the deadline that just allows them to keep circling the drain…

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        Yeah, when my team is still above .500 despite a veritable deluge of injuries, and when some of the cavalry should be arriving in a couple of weeks, all I want to do is SELL!

        Sure, losing Robbie would cripple our offense for the next 3 years, but hey, we can get a prospect who might turn out to be almost as good a hitter as he is while playing worse defense at a far less important defensive position!

        So yeah, I hope they don’t add the 2 bats necessary to become a viable offense once A-Rod, Grandy and Jeter get back. After all, we only have a top 5 rotation in baseball, with more help on the way from Pineda. We might as well just punt Mo’s last season because, as the Rays have shown us, there’s no way to be competitive with an elite rotation and a mediocre offense.

        • Oy

          You are speaking as if Cano sill has 3 years of team control. Losing 3 months of Cano for multiple good prospects with 6 years of control is more like it.

          Oh and what 2 bats will push this team into the play offs? Let’s break the farm system for Konerko,Soriano and Young because this is Mo’s last year?

          • I’m One

            I’d take a long look at Young and perhaps Morales. Those are 2 that could help the team. If the team is confident A-Rod is coming back and can play the field, Young may make more sense. I’d like to see them make a move soon, either way.

          • Cool Lester Smooth

            We won’t be able to resign Robbie if we trade him…

            and Young and Chooch would be a huge improvement for a marginal cost. So, yeah, if we can get Morales or Morse in there too, we’ve got a shot at a WC slot.

        • HateMclouth (formerly I’mVernon)

          I’m probably on the more pessimistic side of things but I really think people are overrating just what Arod, Jeter and Granderson can do to this team.

          • Manny’s BanWagon

            This.

            How often will Jeter and Arod be able to even play the field coming off these surgeries? Once, twice per week to prevent them from breaking down?

            They really need about 3 DH positions.

            • HateMclouth (formerly I’mVernon)

              Yea, exactly. The more time Jete and Arod need to DH, the more time you are going to have Nix and/or Gonzalez in the lineup. Not what this team needs at all right now.

              • Cool Lester Smooth

                Nix and Gonzalez are in the lineup every. single. day. right now, so I guess I’m missing your point…

                • I’mVernonI’mVernon4U

                  There’s no doubt Arod and Jete will be upgrades, but the impact they’ll have will be lessened when they have to share playing time with Gonzalez or Nix.

                  • Cool Lester Smooth

                    But it will be Gonzalez or Nix on the bad days, as opposed to Gonzalez and Nix on the good days.

                    • Manny’s BanWagon

                      It’ll still mostly likely be Nix and/or Gonzalez on MOST days.

                    • Cool Lester Smooth

                      That’s gonna be awfully difficult, considering that Gonzalez is gonna be DFA’d or demoted once Nunez comes back next week.

              • NwkLaw

                5 game losing streak (or winning streak) is a pretty bad time to take people’s temperatures. This year’s team isn’t very good (due in large part to injuries); however, they are only 4 games out of a Wild Card spot right now. Obviously they didn’t, but if they sweep Baltimore they are probably in the Wild Card spot right now. 3 games in a tiny sample that is only about 2% of the season. A few things go right for them and they could easily be a contender this season.

          • Cool Lester Smooth

            Getting Grandy back isn’t just about the 40 HR power that they’ve been missing. He also pushes Wells and Ichiro into the 4th and 5th OF roles where they belong, assuming Zoilo remains reasonably productive.

            • JLC 776

              I simply don’t think that the addition of Grandy, Jeter, A-Rod, and Tex are going to suddenly kick this into an above-average offense that’s going make a run on the post-season. Yeah, those are nice names and all, but seriously, what are you really expecting from them?

              Remember, this team has an uphill battle to fight – likely one steeper than it is now by the time the ‘big’ names come back. This corpse is getting colder; do something positive for the future rather than trying to zap it again with the defibrillator.

              • Cool Lester Smooth

                Above average? Who said above average? If they have even an average offense going forward they should definitely be in the race for a WC slot considering this rotation.

  • Murderers’ Row Boat

    My 4 has a lot to do with the talent the farm system seems to finally be generating.

  • Blake

    My confidence level isn’t so much made up by the current team as it is my lack of faith that the current ownership will authorize what’s necessary to fix it.

  • VaYankeeFan

    The brain-thrust of the Yankees, if there is one needs to plainly forget about this season ans most likely the next. Sell, trade, release and see how that goes. No one should be excluded!!

  • LK

    The present confidence has to be very low. They’ve now dropped to 28th in wRC+ (ahead of only the White Sox and Marlins), and the pitching is good but not elite.

    Long term, I expect them to figure things out, though recent decisions like the Wells acquisition have shaken my faith in the front office a little bit.

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      They traded nothing for him and he doesn’t affect the 2014 plan in any way other than that he’s a body using a 25-man roster spot.

      • Oy

        He’s being payed $2.4 million in 2014.

      • LK

        They spent $13M and (likely) 2 years of roster spots on a player below replacement level. There is just no way to paint it as anything but a terrible move.

  • Manny’s BanWagon

    4.
    I can’t see them making the playoffs this year and a sub .500 record and last place in their division is a distinct possibility.

    With all their holes going into next season, a relatively weak FA market and most of their better prospects likely to be ready in 2015 at the earliest, IMO, next year is shaping up to be worse than this year.

    On the bright side, if they tender offers to Grandy and Hughes, those picks plus probably their highest 1st rounder in more than 20 years will make next years draft highly interesting as a Yankees fan and hopefully the foundation along with this years 3 early picks for a new championship caliber team.

  • Bavarian Yankee

    down to a 5.

    I’d like to see the Yanks officially admitting that this team’s just not good enough this year, announcing they’re officially rebuilding and they’re starting to rebuild right at this years trade deadline. I know that won’t happen though. I just hope they won’t trade prospects for 3 month rentals.

    • JohnnyC

      Yeah that would really be smart. Watch as ratings and attendance totally plummet and next season’s season ticket sales flatline. Even if they actually rebuild, they’re not going to shout it to the upper deck. That strategy has been successful for the Mets, eh?

      • Bavarian Yankee

        why should I care about ratings and attendance? Those numbers will be down anyway if they continue to play like that.

  • trr

    5. Barely a 5.

    We can only hope this is the low point of the season, though that was said after the multi-inning atrocity in Oakland a few weeks ago.
    I’m not ready to give up on the season, but yeah, it looks dire now. Can’t even be sure the returning will lift this team enough,especially
    if the pitching doesn’t hold. There aren’t enough realistic trade options to patch all the holes this team right now.

    I know how simplistic this sounds, but the team (the WHOLE team) is just going to have to lift their level of play or they will be a non-factor the second half, with the previously
    unimaginable specter of a sub .500 finish looming, dank and depressing, on the horizon.

  • http://yahoo.com Tony

    We really should be Sellers at the deadline…Dealing guys like Cano, Kuroda, Granderson, Hughes, and Joba. At least get some young position players.

    If Kuroda retires we do not recieve a comepenstaion pick correct?
    And will Granderson still be a Type A ?

    Sell Sell Sell

    • Colombo

      Type A doesn’t exist anymore. It all depends on whether the Yanks make a qualifying offer, which they should.

  • Cool Lester Smooth

    All the way down to 6 from my baseline of 8. If we don’t add anything at the deadline I’ll drop lower, but Nunez is already playing in rehab games and Cervelli, Grandy, Jeter and A-Rod have started doing baseball stuff again.

    The cavalry is coming for the second half, even if it’s arriving a little later than we had hoped.

    • Manny’s BanWagon

      Those names look good on paper but who really know what your gonna get from 2 near 40 year olds coming off major surgery and Grandy coming off a fractured forearm and now fractured hand.

      • FEED.ME.MORE!

        Who really knows anything?

        I hate that line of thinking when people try to rebut the “positive fan”.

        Noone is saying they are going to be MVP, All-Star caliber players. But they are better than Nix, Adams, IchiWells, Stewart, Gonzales. That’s all people are saying. We don’t know HOW much better, but we can almost certainly say BETTER.

        • Manny’s BanWagon

          Maybe you didn’t read the comment I was responding to but it was

          The cavalry is coming for the second half, even if it’s arriving a little later than we had hoped.

          My point was that when the cavalry arrives, it’s a big reach to think the offense is gonna drastically improve.

        • Manny’s BanWagon

          It certainly should be better than it is now but whether it’s gonna be enough to propel this team to the playoffs is highly debatable.

          • Cool Lester Smooth

            Yeah, but it was always going to be a dogfight for the playoffs this year. We definitely have a chance, though, so it’s stupid to sell.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        I’m pretty fucking positive we’ll get a wRC+ above 80 from each of A-Rod and Jeter, and that will be a massive, massive improvement from what they currently have offensively.

        As for Grandy, I’ll be surprised if he has a wRC+ below 100, but given that our corner OFs are currently producing a wRC+ of 75, I feel comfortable in saying that he’ll be a huge improvement even if he does surprise me.

        You really can’t underestimate how awful our offense is at the positions they play right now.

        • Manny’s BanWagon

          Not saying they won’t be better that what’s there but if this team is an 81 win team for arguments sake the way they are right now, what do you realistically think 70 games of Jeter, Arod and Granderson will lift them to? If they play as well as they did last year which is a big if, 85 wins. Maybe

          • Cool Lester Smooth

            Well, they’ll win 84 if they play .500 ball the rest of the season, so I’d expect at least 87 with all three of those guys coming back.

            Throw in Chooch and a competent corner OF and I think they can scrape 90 considering that we really do have great pitching.

          • NwkLaw

            + Cervelli + Pineda + any trade acquisitions + the SPs (basically all besides Kuroda) ERAs regressing towards their xFIPs (a better predictor of future ERA than ERA)…

            Instead of using 81 wins as the benchmark (basically a bad case scenario of the horror show 1st half repeating), you should use something around 85 wins. Assume some things go right and some wrong. Most things going wrong and winning 81 games is a possibility. But so is most things going right and winning 91+.

            Acting like bad things are more likely to happen than good things doesn’t make much sense to me.

            • Fin

              It makes sense to me that bad things are more likely. First the Yankees don’t have those players you mentioned, nor do we have any clue if they can get them. Second, none of the players the Yankees have on the DL have come back yet and none are even in Rehab games other than Pineda and Nunez. Third, even if they all make it back with no set backs (odds seems slim on that as we have seen over the last few years) there is real concerns about some of these players ability to perfrom this year.

              • Cool Lester Smooth

                “any trade acquisitions” are the only players he mentioned that the Yanks don’t have. He’s saying that if we acquire said “trade acquisitions,” and they do well, they could make the playoffs.

              • NwkLaw

                Not sure you are actually responding to my comment. Or just taking two words I used out of context.

                The most likely case is certainly impacted by the injuries that have already occurred. I don’t know the numbers, but I will grant you that injured players are probably more likely to get re-injured than a healthy player is to get injured. You factor those things in to come up with your most likely case. That is not what Manny was doing. He was factoring in basically nothing going right for the most likely case, and then adding a few wins if a few things happen to go right.

  • HateMclouth (formerly I’mVernon)

    Down to a 5. At this point, you have to wonder just how much the returning guys can help this team. As was alluded to last night, I think losing Tex was the breaking point. I’m sure Grandy, Arod, and Jeter will give us more than what we are getting now, but I’d feel much more confident about this season if we were also going to get Tex an Youk back. I doubt any deadline upgrades get us into the postseason.

    It will never happen, but the team has looked so bad that I’d feel better if the Yanks just dealed Cano and Kuroda to competitors and got some prospects in return. We’re not going to get a Mike Trout in return, but if the Mets could get Wheeler for Beltran…

    A little nervousness about some of the guys DOTF, notably Heathcott and Williams, but its buffered at least a little bit by the recent draft acquisitions (Judge needs to sign, now).

    • Oy

      Full agree, also at a 5. Farm is taking serious hits with the overall under performance. The only bright spots this year appear to be DePaula and Murphy.

      • HateMclouth (formerly I’mVernon)

        Yeah. The underperformance doesn’t only affect the strength of our system, its going to make it harder to acquire a few competent bats at the deadline in a trade.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        No love for Sanchez?

  • Vern Sneaker

    Down from 5 to 4. I’ve been at 5 most of the year because of the obvious lineup hole — my vote’s criteria is based on how likely I think it is that the current team will make the playoffs this year combined with a thought about how the farm system might help fairly immediately. Absent a blockbuster great trade or two. I think our playoff prospects are quite uncertain.

  • Kosmo

    I´m still in disbelief that Girardi keeps running Wells out on the field. PH for Hafner?.

    Gardner and Cano
    pray for snow.

    Woof and more woof !

    I know another dumb trade proposal -
    Sabathia, Joba and PTBNL to the Dodgers for:
    Ethier (I´m not heads over heels for this guy but…), Zack Lee, Joc Peterson, Matt McGill and Dee Gordon. Yanks get 2 mid rotation SP prospects, a RF who has worn out his welcome in LA , a potentially good COF and a SS who probably needs a change of scenery. Dodgers get CC a pitcher who could put the Dodgers over the hump. Joba gives the Dodgers a much needed RP and the proverbial PTBNL Adams ? Nunez? Ichiro? And if I´m anywhere near correct the Yanks shed about 30-40 mil in payroll.

    I know I know.

  • CONservative governMENt

    The injuries may be a blessing in that now we are not forced into a sentimental push for Mo’s last season. Giving up trade assets for short-term fixes would be a mistake.

    See what Phelps, Nova, Warren, Claiborne and eventually Pineda can be, let Adams and Zolio get their feet wetter and get draft picks for Cano, Granderson and maybe Hughes.

    Put the Teixeira insurance money in a kitty for an international free agent or hire away some player development folks from the Cardinals.

    Young or Ruiz would be a waste.

  • FEED.ME.MORE!

    For this season, I would give my confidence level a 5.

    Long term is still a 9.

    This season has been rough, particularly on the offense. But I can’t be too mad at the FO when you are missing the caliber of players we are. The Dodgers have injuries and are in last place. We are at least over .500.

    When you are playing your 4th string 3B, 3rd string SS, Backup SS, Backup C, Backup 1B AND having to give regular ABs to your 4th and 5th OF, what can you reasonably expect?

    But the idea that this shakes my fandom or makes me hate the team and joyfully celebrate it’s struggles is ridiculous to me.

    • Kosmo

      Dodgers are less games out of 1st than NY. Also most of the injured players have returned. Exceptions being Beckett, Billingley and Crawford. Dodgers are going all out to plug holes. Puig-Gonzalez-Kemp-Ramirez trumps anything NY is presently fielding.

  • I’m One

    My overall reaction to this thread is that I’m so glad most of you people aren’t involved in running the Yankees. I’m not yet sure what the current ownership team will bring long term, but at least they don’t seem to be making knee-jerk reactions to the current situations. That simply doesn’t work when you run a business. And it seems that most of the team’s fans forget that this is, first and foremost, a business

    • Bavarian Yankee

      “but at least they don’t seem to be making knee-jerk reactions to the current situations.”

      uhm … why is Vernon Wells here and not in LA!?

      Sure, it’s a business but then they shouldn’t be surprised if people stop watching/visiting the games.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        Because they needed a warm body to play the OF in April, and they got a good deal on Wells. It’s not Cash’s fault that Grandy got plunked again after a week.

        • Bavarian Yankee

          well, I wouldn’t call spending millions of $ for Vernon Wells a good deal.

          • Cool Lester Smooth

            He played great until Grandy got back. I don’t think we’d be complaining right now if Grandy had stayed healthy and Wells had never gotten exposed.

  • D$1184

    My wish list: 3 deals, Phillies (Young and Ruiz), White Sox (Ramirez) and Mariners (Morales).

    Hypothetical line-up:
    CF Gardner
    3B Young
    2B Cano
    1B Morales
    LF Granderson
    DH Hafner/Wells
    SS Alexei Ramirez
    RF Almonte/Ichiro/Wells
    C Ruiz

    Yeah, I know, wishful thinking. Hopefully we’ll maybe get one of those pieces. But the only one connected to a long contract is Ramirez so these aren’t guys the Yankees will be stuck with for a long time. And in the case of Ramirez, the Yankees don’t have a starting shortstop on the current roster and don’t seem to have one coming through the minor league system any time soon.

    • Kosmo

      I´m with you !

    • I’m One

      The only issue I see with that is playing time for Young/Morales once A-Rod & Jeter return. If A-Rod can play the field a few days a week (2-3), what do you do with Young? Maybe if they cut ties with Loverbay it would work (use Young & Morales at 1B/DH with Young getting some time at 3B), but that still cuts down on Jeter’s DH time and I think, at least at the beginning if not the entire season, he’ll need a few days away from the field. Otherwise, I’m with you.

      Now get it done, Cash! (God, we make his job so easy). :-)

      • Kosmo

        I´d much prefer to have that headache than the current one.

      • D$1184

        Neither A-Rod or Jeter is a slam dunk guarantee to return. If and when they do, we cross that bridge when we come to it. Young’s contract expires after this season so that reduces us to Jeter (assuming he exercises his $8 million player option; seems a safe assumption), A-Rod and Ramirez for shortstop, third base and right-handed DH.

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      Alexei Ramirez is fucking terrible, though. Like, closer to Jayson Nix than to Ichiro terrible.

      • D$1184

        Ramirez is an everyday player with some up-side potential. Nix meets neither of those standards.

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          72 wRC+ last year, 70 this year.

          It’s not Rey Ordonez bad, but it’s not acceptable to a team this starved for offense.

      • Kosmo

        Ramirez is on average a 3 WAR player. I believe he´s at 1.3 WAR so far this season. Nix this season 0.3 WAR. No comparison. Yankee SS going forward ? Yanks have diddleysquat. I´d take Ramirez given the length of his remaining contract over every SS rumored to be on the trading block.

        • Cool Lester Smooth

          He has a 70 wRC+ this year. He’s current!Ichiro without the power or patience.

          • Kosmo

            Do the Yanks stand pat at SS ? What SS is available in your book ?

            • Cool Lester Smooth

              I’d just take Nunez until Jeter gets back. When the offense is this dire, I don’t care as much about defense, which is by far Ramirez’s biggest asset.

              • Kosmo

                Nunez is worthless and no telling what if anything a 39 yr SS coming off a serious ankle injury brings to the table. certainly decreased lateral movement.

                • Cool Lester Smooth

                  I don’t care about Jeter’s lateral movement, he hasn’t had it since he turned 30. For me, the bottom line is that Alexei Ramirez will hurt the offense, while Jeter will help it, and Nunez should break even.

  • Mike Myers

    The poll should be titled more like this

    10 (St Louis Cardinals)
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    1 (Miami Marlins)

    • I’m One

      Interesting thought. But still leaves open to interpretation how much emphasis should be placed on this season as opposed to the future. Definitely defines it better than how we vote interpret the vote now.

  • Ray Fuego

    I voted a four. Pitching aside, The curent construction of the team inspires no confidence. Some of the prospects have taken a step back and it is doubtful the farm will produce any help anytime soon. Plus, the front office has sat around idly and it appears they have no urgency to improve the team in any way, shape or form. I’ve been quite optimistic about this team but days ahead look darker and darker. I’m not looking for a blockbuster trade but some small improvements such as a non-zero right handed bat can go a long way.

  • Rizi Walnutz

    I only have confidence the Yanks will pull the trigger on some deal very shortly. And I got my legs crossed it’s a good one.

  • Ivey

    The #justventing meme is cute and all but while you tools make fun of the diehards for being pissed and depressed over this team, it also just shows how you tools don’t give a fuck about the Yankees and just use this place to find imaginary friends. Real sad, but keep it up cause it looks like their is enough of you dolts to actually make you believe it is in any way fucking funny at all.

    The real fans will continue to be pissed and down about the situation. While you clowns mock away. Have a good time.

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      Ah, the “YOU GUYS AREN’T REAL FANS! REAL FANS WANT TO WATCH THE TEAM LOSE FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS SO WE CAN GET TEH DRAFT PICKS!!111!!UnoDosOne!!!1″ argument.

      Like the guys on Bleeding Green Nation who were pissed about Foles leading a comeback in the Bucs game, because they wanted a higher draft pick.

    • Pat D

      #wejustventin

      Nah, that’s too easy.

      You’re really interesting to think that those you refer to as “tools” who “don’t give a fuck” aren’t diehard fans. Why the fuck would I come here if I wasn’t a fan? “To find imaginary friends?” Goes to show you don’t know jack shit. I’ve been posting on this site for 3 years. I didn’t know anyone who posted on this site at the time, and I didn’t care if I made friends. If anything, I pissed off a lot of people who were the regulars of that time. Why? Because I whined when they lost, as if they were supposed to win every game they played.

      You think I’m happy with the way the Yankees are playing? Get real. What it comes down to is that I’ve got more important things to focus on in my life than the state of a team that’s been good enough to win 5 fucking championships in my lifetime. That’s a pretty good haul in my opinion. If they’re going to end up falling on their face this year, so be it. There isn’t a fucking thing that I can do about that.

      So you keep having a good time misunderstanding people on the internet. Or, more particular, keep having fun thinking wrong things about me and other people here. We’ll just keep laughing at you.

      • Ivey

        I pegged you right on. Deal with it. Just don’t confuse crying about it over laughing. Now go and let your imaginary friends tell you how cool you are. That will cheer you right up and let you get over how I completely owned you. HAHA

        • Pat D

          Owned me? You have a pretty high opinion of yourself. But you’re also not worth engaging anymore.

          O:S.

          • Cool Lester Smooth

            I love it when people say that they “owned” someone on the internet. It’s a surefire way of pegging the “don’t have my Learner’s Permit” crowd.

      • Cool Lester Smooth

        I’ve also had 5 championships in my lifetime; unfortunately my first distinct baseball memory is Luis Gonzalez hitting a bloop over Derek Jeter’s head, so I kinda missed the fun.

        • Pat D

          I hear ya. I still have nightmares about that. At least I was old enough to enjoy the four that you don’t really remember.

    • Robinson Tilapia

      You don’t quite understand what the meme means.

      The rest is just straight trolling, so I’ll go and feel dumb for even acknowledging your existence in the first place now.

      • Ivey

        You would definitely know trolling that is all you do.

        • Johnny Wise

          #wejustventin

  • LarryM Fl

    6 the same level of confidence as last week. The reason for such a high level is mainly about the front office. They planned their season with the idea that Jeter and Arod would be an issue. Picked up Youkilis with the hope of an injury free existence until Arod made it back. We know the results. Scissor hands was to play short for Jeter even be his caddy when he came back. We know that worked. Granderson, Cervelli and Texieria followed. The front office would be considered rocket scientists if it all fell into play. We might be sitting on top of the AL East but reality took its toll on the plans.

    As for the remainder of this year, I do not believe any stop the leak plans will be helpful. Are we to again trade for has been players. We have done this over the years. Now that we need assistance from the farm. We have Adams, Romine who are trying to reestablish the Mendoza Line to sub .200. Our starters who are from the farm system are getting crushed of late. We have borrowed from Father Time. He has given us Kuroda and Andy P. They have both pitched to their best but its starting to look obvious the end result with these two. If we gut gut the farm system to pretend that we have a chance at the playoffs is the wrong move. We end up with players, contracts that don’t look to appealing on other teams books. Why do they look better on ours.

    As far as the future with Cano, he can not do it alone. So why do we pay for a piece of the puzzle which will not fit for the next 5 years as the Yanks retool.

    The Yanks should stand with the 189 and do the retooling with younger players. The long term contracts have been a night mare. Also buy up control time. So we can pay for prime time and not decline time of a player. The CBA, international signings, luxury tax manipulation by smaller markets, Miami. Are all working against the Yankees. The business model of the Yanks has to change if they want to compete. Now the time is right. We as fans will have to suffer through a few years. It maybe well worth it.

  • lightSABR

    My vote: 1.

    This Yankee dynasty of 17 playoff appearances in 18 years is looking over–not just because our play lately has been historically awful, but because all signs point to this being our true talent level, and because between the budget and the state of the farm system, there’s not much reason to think that the next couple of years will be better. Time to give up and rebuild.

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      “Historically awful.” I don’t think you know what “historically” means.

      • Robinson Tilapia

        Or it’s a rather short and limited definition of “history.:

        The 1899 Cleveland Spiders are offended.

      • lightSABR

        To be fair, I mean historically awful for the Yankees, though I recognize that even that is an exaggeration.

        Nevertheless, the Yankees are about .365 over their last 33 games. If anyone here remembers the last time the Yankees were that bad, that long, I’ll take it back.

  • Robinson Tilapia

    Still a 6. My vote’s not going to be volatile based on 2013 anyway. If you really want me to break it down, though….

    This season: 4
    2014: 6
    Beyond: 7

    Puts me in the 5 to 6 range. I’m a Yankee fan. I round up. Six.

    I still can’t imagine myself giving this team less than a 50% of righting their ship.

  • Gonzo

    I must have missed something because this post had more comments on it before I clicked on it. I wonder if it got too crazy.

    • Cool Lester Smooth

      Maybe it’s just your browser? I know I have to refresh Chrome constantly to get new comments.

      • Pat D

        Same thing for me with Safari. I think it happens with IE, too.

        • Robinson Tilapia

          It’s happened with Firefox as well.

      • Gonzo

        I thought I did. I saw something like 104 comments before I even clicked on the post. Then when I entered it (yeah!) it only had something like 96 comments, and I refreshed to make sure.

        Maybe something was just off topic.

  • Fin

    I’m at a 5 like I’ve been pretty much been all season. It seems to me the Yankees are already rebuilding and I don’t expect any significant moves at the deadline unless they can get a long term piece. I could be wrong as it is the Yankees and maybe they go out and get a few upgrades but I don’t believe that will be the case.

    I would be a lot lower if this wasn’t the Yankees. Rebuilds tend to take a very long time, some teams have been rebuilding for 20yrs. I have my doubts about this front office being the guys to rebuild though. Hell, we rarely ever know who is behind the moves the Yankees do make…is it Cashman, is it Levine, Hal? So, it hard to have confidence in them. They have also made some very questionable moves this year, but they are short term and none impact the team beyond 2014. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt since the Yankees have been a WS contender for almost 20yrs.

  • JRod

    I went to a 7, down from 8 last time I voted which was a few weeks ago. The 2nd round of injuries to Tex, Grandy and Youkilis was absolutely brutal. But I still think they have a promising future, shedding a ton of contracts after this year and with some young talent in the wings. The next few weeks are crucial, they need to at least stay where they are in the AL East and not slip further behind. Also Cashman will make some moves in the next few weeks and shore up the offense.